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July 29, 2024, 09:10:15 PM
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Dude, I thought he'd be a great player at Barca. Also, Vitor is a teenager who is chasing his dream. I think Barcelona planned to sell Vitor. They would use the money to buy Olmo or Nico. But, after he rejected a Saudi offer, they had no choice but to stick with Vitor for the upcoming season.

Vitor's case shows that many Barcelona back-office staff are not serious. Again, this also proves that the problem of mismanagement from Barcelona is real.
Is disappointing to see Barca behaving like this though is just business trying to sell who they want to get their top priority but I will have to see what will be their response to Vitor decision, if only most players could see that the Barca board doesn't really care much about them instead are always ready to dump them just for cash to get the player they wants and then the circle continue. If the entire fans & management could take things much calmly accepting they are far from their glorious days they may be able to balance their book better and become top flight  again before 2030 using much better method than maybe forcing some good stars out.

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July 29, 2024, 10:11:46 PM
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Is disappointing to see Barca behaving like this though is just business trying to sell who they want to get their top priority but I will have to see what will be their response to Vitor decision, if only most players could see that the Barca board doesn't really care much about them instead are always ready to dump them just for cash to get the player they wants and then the circle continue. If the entire fans & management could take things much calmly accepting they are far from their glorious days they may be able to balance their book better and become top flight  again before 2030 using much better method than maybe forcing some good stars out.

It is not really their fault to find their self in this condition, they are suppose to have develop ways of how they will come out of their mess, things like this are normal and it can happen to any club so the fact that their financial condition should not be affecting their performance since the play’s salary are been paid, then should have focus on how to bring titles for the club instead,  and the management need to do what is best for the club and any player they want to sell they should not sell their best player but I don’t think Barcelona will betray any of their player just because of their financial crisis, we don’t even know the decision they will take any moment from now so let’s what the we see what they will act upon.

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July 29, 2024, 10:21:35 PM
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Barcelona striker Vitor Roque turns down Al-Hilal approach
Source: Barcablaugranes

I would say it was the right decision by Vitor Roque. Vitor Roque is a young player. Vitor Roque is only 19 years old. And playing in the Saudi league right now is not a good decision for Vitor Roque's career. Maybe Vitor Roque could earn a lot of money from the Saudi League. But the Saudi League is not a competitive league. And the Saudi league lacks experienced players and coaches. Since Vitor Roque is still a young player, if he wants to do well in the future, Vitor Roque should be near an experienced coach.

I guess Vitor Roque is still interested in staying with Barcelona. And I would say Barcelona management should keep Vitor Roque with Barcelona for one more season. With the help of Hansi Flick, if Vitor Roque becomes more experienced and can perform well, Barcelona management can sell Vitor Roque for a higher price next season.
At first I thought he was desperate because he was no longer appreciated by Barcelona but with his decision to reject the offer from Al-Hilal he also helped save his career from the slump. I can't imagine what would happen because this should be the right time for him to show his quality in front of big teams and maybe if he doesn't complain and can seduce coach Hansi Flick with his good performance then he will also be considered as an alternative with more minutes next season.

Vitor Roque showed bravery by rejecting AlHilal's offer. He has proved that he is serious about his career and that he is not greedy. If Vitor Roque was greedy he would have accepted Al Hila's offer and would have earned a large amount of money. But Vitor Roque rejected Al Hilal's offer. He wants to stay at Barcelona, ​​or with another renowned club. This will further improve Vitor Roque's performance in the future.


I think there is no word of giving up for Vitor Roque even though he doesn't get his place in Barcelona and what he has to do next is try until he succeeds because we know Barcelona's situation is not good enough so they are a bit hesitant to hand over the attack line to young players. That's why Lewandowski is irreplaceable but I think Barcelona must be open-minded because Vitor Roque could be the answer to a more uphill performance later.

Right now Hansi Flick is not interested in Vitor Roque. Because Hansi FLick has more options. Barcelona have a lot of young players in their current squad. Apart from Lewa in attack, all other players are relatively young. Instead of Yamal, Fati and Torres, coach Flick will definitely not give Vitor Roque a chance. But if Vitor Roque can prove his ability, then maybe Hansi Flick can become interested in Vitor Roque. But I think Flick is not interested in Vitor Roque now. This is why Barcelona decided to sell Vitor Roque.

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July 29, 2024, 10:38:10 PM
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Roque suffered same fate when Xavi was a coach and now that Flick is in charge, good act by turning that such tempting offer from Saudi  I hope its not a rumor actually because SM might be full of shit sometimes Cheesy
Apart from that, It pains me to see how barca could just let go  of Joao felix  so easily and soon... Joao Felix is full of skills, he wasn't given more chance to play by xavi but even with the little, he proved exceptionally well in performance but it so sad barca didn't care,  their financial status has really changed them alot.

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July 29, 2024, 11:32:28 PM
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Roque suffered same fate when Xavi was a coach and now that Flick is in charge, good act by turning that such tempting offer from Saudi  I hope its not a rumor actually because SM might be full of shit sometimes Cheesy
Apart from that, It pains me to see how barca could just let go  of Joao felix  so easily and soon... Joao Felix is full of skills, he wasn't given more chance to play by xavi but even with the little, he proved exceptionally well in performance but it so sad barca didn't care,  their financial status has really changed them alot.

I also don't understand why Barcelona are letting Joao Felix go. Joao Felix is ​​a very talented player. Last season he scored 7 goals and 3 assists in La Liga. And scored three goals in the Champions League. Perhaps we could have seen more improvement in Joao Felix's overall performance if given a better chance in the squad.

Hansi Flick probably has no long-term plans. And the Barcelona management is fully supporting Hansi Flick. And this is why the Barcelona management is no longer interested in Joao Felix and Roque. These two players are probably out of Hansi Flick's match strategy. However, as Barcelona are in a financial crisis right now, spending money on players who are out of coach Flick's plans in the squad will not be pleasant for Barcelona.

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July 29, 2024, 11:57:19 PM
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Roque suffered same fate when Xavi was a coach and now that Flick is in charge, good act by turning that such tempting offer from Saudi  I hope its not a rumor actually because SM might be full of shit sometimes Cheesy
Apart from that, It pains me to see how barca could just let go  of Joao felix  so easily and soon... Joao Felix is full of skills, he wasn't given more chance to play by xavi but even with the little, he proved exceptionally well in performance but it so sad barca didn't care,  their financial status has really changed them alot.
I was also surprised to see that Barcelona let go of such a quality player like Joao Felix. Of a truth, he seemed not to be in the good books of Xavi, the reason he was not given enough opportunity to showcase his skills, maybe this could have backfired on Xavi in terms of his results and achievement in Barcelona.  With a new management in charge, it would have been nice to retain him and see how well he can contribute to the team.

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Today at 12:14:27 AM
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Roque suffered same fate when Xavi was a coach and now that Flick is in charge, good act by turning that such tempting offer from Saudi  I hope its not a rumor actually because SM might be full of shit sometimes Cheesy
Apart from that, It pains me to see how barca could just let go  of Joao felix  so easily and soon... Joao Felix is full of skills, he wasn't given more chance to play by xavi but even with the little, he proved exceptionally well in performance but it so sad barca didn't care,  their financial status has really changed them alot.
I agree with you Barcelona made a big bad decision with good players like Roque and Joao Felix. It is sad they let them go without giving them a chance to play. Xavi did not use Joao Felix enough and now he left. I hope it is true that Roque said no to big offer from Saudi Arabia. That would show Barcelona cares about its players. But it seems like Barcelona money problems are making them make bad decisions. They are choosing money over helping their players get better.

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Today at 12:57:04 AM
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Dude, I thought he'd be a great player at Barca. Also, Vitor is a teenager who is chasing his dream. I think Barcelona planned to sell Vitor. They would use the money to buy Olmo or Nico. But, after he rejected a Saudi offer, they had no choice but to stick with Vitor for the upcoming season.

Vitor's case shows that many Barcelona back-office staff are not serious. Again, this also proves that the problem of mismanagement from Barcelona is real.
Is disappointing to see Barca behaving like this though is just business trying to sell who they want to get their top priority but I will have to see what will be their response to Vitor decision, if only most players could see that the Barca board doesn't really care much about them instead are always ready to dump them just for cash to get the player they wants and then the circle continue. If the entire fans & management could take things much calmly accepting they are far from their glorious days they may be able to balance their book better and become top flight  again before 2030 using much better method than maybe forcing some good stars out.
Barça paid a transfer fee of 40 million Euros for Vitor Roque. If they want to sell him, they have to pay a very high transfer fee. The team that will buy him has to meet this high transfer fee. Roque did not have much chance to play last year. That is why he is open to leaving. Only time will tell us what will happen.

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Barcelona striker Vitor Roque turns down Al-Hilal approach
Source: Barcablaugranes

I would say it was the right decision by Vitor Roque. Vitor Roque is a young player. Vitor Roque is only 19 years old. And playing in the Saudi league right now is not a good decision for Vitor Roque's career. Maybe Vitor Roque could earn a lot of money from the Saudi League. But the Saudi League is not a competitive league. And the Saudi league lacks experienced players and coaches. Since Vitor Roque is still a young player, if he wants to do well in the future, Vitor Roque should be near an experienced coach.

I guess Vitor Roque is still interested in staying with Barcelona. And I would say Barcelona management should keep Vitor Roque with Barcelona for one more season. With the help of Hansi Flick, if Vitor Roque becomes more experienced and can perform well, Barcelona management can sell Vitor Roque for a higher price next season.
Maybe if Barcelona intends to sell him to another club in Europe then I would prefer if this young player moves to another club that can make him a main player. But because Barcelona tried to let him go to an Arab club, I also feel that Vitor's decision was correct. He still has to survive in European football. He still has a long career ahead of him and he must continue to develop his talents even further in Europe. And it would be a shame if he moved to Al-Hilal at a young age. Although I also started to like Arab clubs. But I still prefer Arab clubs to bring in senior star players from Europe rather than young players. And we know that this young player hasn't been at Barcelona for long. And I feel sorry if this player is immediately resold. I also think that Barcelona should keep him for at least 1 more season. And let's see how he contributes to the team. In the Xavi era, he wasn't included in the plans, but I didn't expect that even in the Hansi Flick era, it seems like this player still doesn't have a good place in the squad. So Barcelona's plan to let him go is quite understandable.

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Today at 03:15:40 AM
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Roque suffered same fate when Xavi was a coach and now that Flick is in charge, good act by turning that such tempting offer from Saudi  I hope its not a rumor actually because SM might be full of shit sometimes Cheesy
Apart from that, It pains me to see how barca could just let go  of Joao felix  so easily and soon... Joao Felix is full of skills, he wasn't given more chance to play by xavi but even with the little, he proved exceptionally well in performance but it so sad barca didn't care,  their financial status has really changed them alot.
So far, Roque has always played minimal minutes at Barcelona, ​​as a result he has not been able to show his best performance. Then with this poor performance, it is clear that Barcelona will definitely accept any club's offer to sell Roque. Now Al Hilal wants Roque, but it doesn't seem to be going smoothly because Roque still seems to want to be at Barcelona. This makes sense, because in essence Roque has only been at Barcelona for half a season, besides that he is still relatively young. So there is no big reason for him to leave Barcelona. Apart from that, at Barcelona he has a very long contract, namely until 2031, this will of course be very good for Roque's future. Therefore, it makes sense that Roque currently rejects Al Hilal's offer.

Talking about Joao Felix, I also quite regret that Barcelona did not make his contract permanent. The reason is that Felix is ​​indeed quite a talented player and is always able to contribute well to Barcelona's front lines. But unfortunately Barcelona did not see this. Maybe Felix is ​​not on the list of players that Hansi Flick wants, which is why Barcelona did not make his contract permanent. Because as we know, Barcelona has quite big ambitions to bring in Nico William. So it is certain that Barcelona will not spend their money carelessly at this time.

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Today at 03:39:09 AM
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Vitor Roque showed bravery by rejecting AlHilal's offer. He has proved that he is serious about his career and that he is not greedy. If Vitor Roque was greedy he would have accepted Al Hila's offer and would have earned a large amount of money. But Vitor Roque rejected Al Hilal's offer. He wants to stay at Barcelona, ​​or with another renowned club. This will further improve Vitor Roque's performance in the future.

Vitor Roque is just 19 years of age so he still a young player that has a promising career so had it been he decided to move to the Saudi league, it would have been a very bad decision because he is still open to play for other visible European teams that will further boost his football career instead of settling for Al Hila so indeed he did well by not accepting the club's offer.

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Right now Hansi Flick is not interested in Vitor Roque. Because Hansi FLick has more options. Barcelona have a lot of young players in their current squad. Apart from Lewa in attack, all other players are relatively young. Instead of Yamal, Fati and Torres, coach Flick will definitely not give Vitor Roque a chance. But if Vitor Roque can prove his ability, then maybe Hansi Flick can become interested in Vitor Roque. But I think Flick is not interested in Vitor Roque now. This is why Barcelona decided to sell Vitor Roque.

I know the reason why Barcelona have a lot of young players is due to their current financial state but it has also given the club the advantage to build young talents so even if they decide to sell some of their young players in the future, they will generate a lot of money for the club. Vitor Roque is not that bad in play, maybe the coach doesn't just want to work with the player and I don't think Vitor Roque should play to impress the coach either because the coach can decide to frustrate the young player by keeping him on the bench so if an European team comes for him he should consider moving out of Barcelona since the club is ready to sell him, he can do better if he moves to other clubs.

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Today at 04:02:27 AM
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The young Brazilian striker still has his whole future ahead of him as he is only a 19-year-old youngster. Despite being young, Roque played as a forward for Spanish club Barcelona and the Brazilian national team. If he tried or wanted to leave Barcelona and join the Saudi Professional League, it might have been a wrong decision for him. Because there is no competitive team in this league, maybe there is a lot of money scattered there. Most of the players in the Saudi Professional League who have transferred from various clubs are older, including Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema and a few others.

There have been many rumors of Vitor Roque leaving Barcelona and we have also seen a lot of news on the subject. But I saw in all the news that Vitor Roque is still interested in playing with Barcelona, maybe Barcelona should give him a chance and this is for the season. So that he can recognize his own caste and even be able to match himself brilliantly.

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Today at 04:30:10 AM
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Dude, I thought he'd be a great player at Barca. Also, Vitor is a teenager who is chasing his dream. I think Barcelona planned to sell Vitor. They would use the money to buy Olmo or Nico. But, after he rejected a Saudi offer, they had no choice but to stick with Vitor for the upcoming season.

Vitor's case shows that many Barcelona back-office staff are not serious. Again, this also proves that the problem of mismanagement from Barcelona is real.
Is disappointing to see Barca behaving like this though is just business trying to sell who they want to get their top priority but I will have to see what will be their response to Vitor decision, if only most players could see that the Barca board doesn't really care much about them instead are always ready to dump them just for cash to get the player they wants and then the circle continue. If the entire fans & management could take things much calmly accepting they are far from their glorious days they may be able to balance their book better and become top flight  again before 2030 using much better method than maybe forcing some good stars out.
Barça paid a transfer fee of 40 million Euros for Vitor Roque. If they want to sell him, they have to pay a very high transfer fee. The team that will buy him has to meet this high transfer fee. Roque did not have much chance to play last year. That is why he is open to leaving. Only time will tell us what will happen.
I don't understand what was in Barcelona's mind when they recruited this player in January mid-season I thought Barcelona was really serious about using this player for next season but it seems like Barcelona recruited this player only for personal interests so they can sell him to Saudi Arabia with a more expensive transfer fee, this is very unfair to Vitor Roque because he still wants to pursue his career and his future is still long he is still too young to go to Saudi Arabia if this happens it is the same as he cannot pursue his dreams of becoming a European star player.

if Barcelona really wants to recruit Nico Williams or Dani Olmo a fair option for both of them is to offer this player to another club (European region) who is willing to recruit this player the most important thing is that he can still play in Europe.

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Today at 04:39:57 AM
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It is not really their fault to find their self in this condition, they are suppose to have develop ways of how they will come out of their mess, things like this are normal and it can happen to any club so the fact that their financial condition should not be affecting their performance since the play’s salary are been paid, then should have focus on how to bring titles for the club instead,  and the management need to do what is best for the club and any player they want to sell they should not sell their best player but I don’t think Barcelona will betray any of their player just because of their financial crisis, we don’t even know the decision they will take any moment from now so let’s what the we see what they will act upon.
In fact, a difficult situation can actually make a club take quite difficult steps. Because their financial condition is indeed a problem in this case. So if Barcelona even sells their best player then we also have to understand that their aim is to bring in other players who they feel will make a much better contribution. The news about Vitor being offered to the Al-hilal club is quite a topic of conversation at the moment. But I can understand the situation. And in the end Vitor didn't want it and that was the right step and I think everyone agrees with Vitor's decision. Maybe if last season Vitor was given more playing time and he showed good quality then perhaps Vitor's transfer price could also be high enough to even be offered to other European clubs. Unfortunately, because he is rarely played, he doesn't get much attention even from other European clubs.

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The young Brazilian striker still has his whole future ahead of him as he is only a 19-year-old youngster. Despite being young, Roque played as a forward for Spanish club Barcelona and the Brazilian national team. If he tried or wanted to leave Barcelona and join the Saudi Professional League, it might have been a wrong decision for him. Because there is no competitive team in this league, maybe there is a lot of money scattered there. Most of the players in the Saudi Professional League who have transferred from various clubs are older, including Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema and a few others.

There have been many rumors of Vitor Roque leaving Barcelona and we have also seen a lot of news on the subject. But I saw in all the news that Vitor Roque is still interested in playing with Barcelona, maybe Barcelona should give him a chance and this is for the season. So that he can recognize his own caste and even be able to match himself brilliantly.
Vitor Roque fate was exactly the same as Malcom, after being brought in by Barcelona he was not given the trust to show his talent. Now Vitor Roque future is uncertain at Barcelona, ​​he has been put on the transfer list so Barcelona can get money to recruit other players. He and his agent have rejected a contract offer from Al Hilal because he still wants to play in a more competitive league to develop his talent, but Barcelona, ​​who are in dire need of money, will do everything they can to get him to another club before the transfer window closes.

He still really wants to be at Barcelona and be an important part of the squad that will be led by Hansi Flick, Barcelona should make him an asset for the future, he has the ability and he is still young, he needs the trust of the coach to improve his abilities. I think selling Lewandowski would be better than selling Vitor Roque, Lewandowski is old and the club is very burdened because of his high salary.

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Today at 06:00:22 AM
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Barça paid a transfer fee of 40 million Euros for Vitor Roque. If they want to sell him, they have to pay a very high transfer fee. The team that will buy him has to meet this high transfer fee. Roque did not have much chance to play last year. That is why he is open to leaving. Only time will tell us what will happen.
Barcelona actually paid less though with add-ons
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Their deal with his Brazilian top-flight club Athletico Paranaense, agreed last July, was for an initial €30million (£25.6m; $32.2m at current exchange rates) plus a potential further €31m in add-ons.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5468936/2024/05/03/barcelona-vitor-roque-xavi-laporta-loan/


Dude, I thought he'd be a great player at Barca. Also, Vitor is a teenager who is chasing his dream. I think Barcelona planned to sell Vitor. They would use the money to buy Olmo or Nico. But, after he rejected a Saudi offer, they had no choice but to stick with Vitor for the upcoming season.

Vitor's case shows that many Barcelona back-office staff are not serious. Again, this also proves that the problem of mismanagement from Barcelona is real.
Is disappointing to see Barca behaving like this though is just business trying to sell who they want to get their top priority but I will have to see what will be their response to Vitor decision, if only most players could see that the Barca board doesn't really care much about them instead are always ready to dump them just for cash to get the player they wants and then the circle continue. If the entire fans & management could take things much calmly accepting they are far from their glorious days they may be able to balance their book better and become top flight  again before 2030 using much better method than maybe forcing some good stars out.
Barça paid a transfer fee of 40 million Euros for Vitor Roque. If they want to sell him, they have to pay a very high transfer fee. The team that will buy him has to meet this high transfer fee. Roque did not have much chance to play last year. That is why he is open to leaving. Only time will tell us what will happen.
I don't understand what was in Barcelona's mind when they recruited this player in January mid-season I thought Barcelona was really serious about using this player for next season but it seems like Barcelona recruited this player only for personal interests so they can sell him to Saudi Arabia with a more expensive transfer fee, this is very unfair to Vitor Roque because he still wants to pursue his career and his future is still long he is still too young to go to Saudi Arabia if this happens it is the same as he cannot pursue his dreams of becoming a European star player.
It signing was not really the doings of Xavi rather Deco but it seems like they only bought him to get a bigger cash out later on,I guessed this was among the reason he had limited game time with Xavi.
I think while he is still open for a transfer even after a change of coach I guessed he may not totally be on Hansi plans because if maybe he had a good meeting with the new coach about this then it would have been different.

if Barcelona really wants to recruit Nico Williams or Dani Olmo a fair option for both of them is to offer this player to another club (European region) who is willing to recruit this player the most important thing is that he can still play in Europe.
The transfer fee Barcelona wants from him is what most teams in Europe won't consider to pay for him since he wasn't given much playing time I think loaning him firstly would have been much feasible solution for them if they want to get more money from any European which then will be determined by his performance.

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Today at 07:15:08 AM
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I can't wait to see Barcelona's match against Manchester City and of course in La Liga Barcelona is a strong team as well as Manchester City which is the strongest team in the EPL. Of course, this match is really an exciting friendly match because it brings together two strong clubs and of course we will see the strategy and formation used by Barcelona and of course I am curious about the formation and strategy used by Hansi Flick to make Barcelona win.

and regarding Manchester City, of course we saw that in friendly matches they have never won, namely when they lost 3-4 against Celtic and then against Milan they also lost with a score of 2-3. Of course in the upcoming matches, Pep must be really careful and must be able to look for Barcelona's weaknesses. in order to win the match. Yes, of course in Barcelona there is also Gundogan, of course he is a former Manchester City player, of course this will make the match even more exciting.

What are your predictions regarding the friendly match and who do you think will win the match? However, I predict that Manchester City will have great potential to win the match and I predict 2-1 for Manchester City to win. Of course, with this friendly match, both teams will definitely learn a good lesson whether they win or lose.

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