La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25

[hahay]

Barcelona have wonderkids like Lamine Yamal but Barcelona's failure to recruit Dani Olmo and Nico Williams means they won't be able to compete with Real Madrid this season. I actually hope to see el classico like before but it looks like I have to wait until next season.

In fact, I don't want to underestimate every team in La Liga next season.  Indeed, Madrid has better transfers, but that is not the main guarantee. Just look at the trials, even Madrid struggled and lost.  Maybe it's too early for us to talk about Barcelona's strength because of the failed transfer. I'm a Madrid fan, but I don't feel like they're playing at their best tempo as they do a few pre-season games.

Again and again, why do you still use pre-season matches as your reference for assessing the team abilities for next  season because it is clear that in pre-season matches they did not play as they should. I wonder why, if you are a Real Madrid fan but you doubt the team itself, what's more, Real Madrid is the king of Europe, but you still doubt the quality of Real Madrid and thus, I'm not  sure if you are a Real Madrid fan. Because after all, I don't idolize any team, but if it was about Real Madrid then I personally wouldn't doubt it.

Regarding Barcelona failing to buy Dani Olmo and Nico Williams, I also surprised, because from the available information it also appears that Barcelona finances have become better. And in fact, it was even reported that Dani Olmo and Nico Williams chose Barcelona as their new team in this transfer window. But I wonder why Barcelona is still failing to bring in new players, which makes me wonder whether Barcelona finances have really recovered or not.

[Palakka]

Ancelotti confirmed that Mbappe and Bellingham will take part in the UEFA Super Cup, which will take place on August 14. The bookmakers' odds are currently as follows:

1.62 - 4.40 - 5.0

Does this seem generous? I understand that it's the beginning of the season and there's a lot of randomness, but +62% for a game where the title is at stake and Real are the clear favorites looks like an easy bet.
What do you think? Does Atalanta have a chance?

The 62% odds seem pretty sweet for this match. I think I'll go for it, I won't be upset if Real Madrid loses because I see very little chance of them losing. Ancelotti also announced Mbappe and Bellingham for this match, which gave me more confidence, I can say.

Because these players are capable of turning the match around on their own, so the probability of them losing is low. The 1.62 odds seem good to me, maybe others will find it risky and not like it, but I'll go for it.

The match between the champions of the Champions League and the European League will be Madrid opening match in the official matches this season, this match will of course be a match that will attract a lot of attention for football fans after we continue to be presented with friendly matches at this time, Madrid will definitely deploy the main squad they were in that match and it looks like the Uefa Super Cup match will be Mbappe debut in madrid, some time ago I saw a friendly match between Atlanta and Parma, but in that match, Atlanta had to lose its mainstay player due to a very serious injury, Scamacca who had been his mainstay Atlanta will definitely be absent and obviously that will reduce Atlanta strength in the Uefa Super Cup later, so I think Madrid will have around a 70% chance for winning that the match because the difference in quality between the two teams is very large.

[KTChampions]

Ancelotti confirmed that Mbappe and Bellingham will take part in the UEFA Super Cup, which will take place on August 14. The bookmakers' odds are currently as follows:

1.62 - 4.40 - 5.0

Does this seem generous? I understand that it's the beginning of the season and there's a lot of randomness, but +62% for a game where the title is at stake and Real are the clear favorites looks like an easy bet.
What do you think? Does Atalanta have a chance?

There are still 10 days to go, the odds for Real Madrid might fall to 1.40, for 1.40 I think it's quite risky, although I'm convinced Real Madrid should able to beat Atalanta. The big upset that Atalanta did in Europa League might be the reason why Real Madrid isn't a heavy favorite, people might think Atalanta can pull an upset, who knows?

Seeing Mbappe and Bellingham in Real Madrid is like seeing Ronaldo and Ozil.

I'm not sure that we will see the odds of 1.40, since this is the odds for the outcome of the game in regular time, and even if Atalanta have some problems, they are unlikely to be so strong as to significantly reduce the odd of a double chance for Atalanta.
I think either wait for live and place a bet or place a bet on Real with a handicap of -1. More risk - more gain. And maybe bookmakers underpay for bets on the favorite, but give fairer odds for bets with a handicap.

[jaberwock]

You just saw a few preseason games last season to conclude that.
I think that's a big mistake, first there was no luck that made Real Madrid win the La Liga and Champion League last season, basically there was an increase in the quality of their young players who were much more mature and ready so that Real Madrid's performance was better.
And secondly Barcelona does not have a squad that is even and quality in every line like Real Madrid so I think what happened in this preseason cannot be used as any reference.
I even predict that Real Madrid will be able to easily defend the La Liga title without any pressure from any team including Barcelona.

Maybe we have different views on this.
But I look at the squads of both teams and I see Real Madrid players are quite scary for next season, so most likely we will see a much stronger performance from them next season.

That's true, both improved young players who will be better this year, and also there are a lot of players who are already good that is added to the team as well. We should see Real Madrid have an insanely well season and not have any issues getting the title very early on. That's what they are going to probably focus on, if they win the league very very early on, then they won't need to play their best players during the regular season and could play at semifinals of UCL easily with rested players as well.

With how good they are this year, I can see an April run could be very possible, unlikely and very difficult, because in April there still a lot of games, but if they reach 15+ points, that's almost guaranteed and players could rest. Meaning 3 last games of UCL could be a lot easier for them.

[BALIK]

Again and again, why do you still use pre-season matches as your reference for assessing the team abilities for next  season because it is clear that in pre-season matches they did not play as they should. I wonder why, if you are a Real Madrid fan but you doubt the team itself, what's more, Real Madrid is the king of Europe, but you still doubt the quality of Real Madrid and thus, I'm not  sure if you are a Real Madrid fan. Because after all, I don't idolize any team, but if it was about Real Madrid then I personally wouldn't doubt it.

In friendly matches, Barcelona and Real Madrid have given their squad's experienced players a chance. Both the teams have given the opportunity to the young players in their squads in this match. And both were second tier squads. So I am not worried about the friendly match performance. Both teams will be able to perform better in La Liga next season. There is no doubt that Real Madrid team will perform well with the help of Ancelotti. Moreover, Madrid have become stronger after adding Mbappe to the squad. On the other hand, with the help of Hansi Flick, Barcelona's overall performance is likely to remain stable. Barcelona have a lot of young talented players in their squad.


[/quote]Regarding Barcelona failing to buy Dani Olmo and Nico Williams, I also surprised, because from the available information it also appears that Barcelona finances have become better. And in fact, it was even reported that Dani Olmo and Nico Williams chose Barcelona as their new team in this transfer window. But I wonder why Barcelona is still failing to bring in new players, which makes me wonder whether Barcelona finances have really recovered or not.
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I thought we would see Nico Williams in a Barcelona jersey next season. But this possibility is less now. But Nico Williams at Barcelona would have benefited both Barcelona and Williams. Because here he had Yamal as a teammate. We saw this pair perform well in the Spain jersey at the last Euro.

[Blitzboy]

It seems like Conor Gallagher is on his way to Atletico Madrid. 



https://www.transfermarkt.com/set-to-sign-for-atletico-madrid-why-chelsea-may-regret-selling-conor-gallagher/view/news/441669

It looks like the sides have agreed upon a 40 million euros fee. This would be a great deal for Atletico Madrid honestly. Because Gallagher is one of the really good talents in midfield. Comparing him to the current CMs in Atletico Madrid squad, I believe he can outperform all of them. I don't mean they are weak of course but I see him as more talented. I wouldn't sell him if I were in Chelsea's place. I like his game. He is a fighter in midfield. 

Conor Gallagher to Atletico Madrid for €40m? Not bad at all. His consistency is lacking. But his raw talent remains. The kid is a natural playmaker, which Atletico needs today. Gallagher may invigorate their midfield, which has been lacking. He has enthusiasm, vision, and drive to succeed. His young, hungry attitude can shake up a team.

Is it risky? Every transfer involves risk. Yet Atletico isnt just throwing money around. Gallagher suits their agenda well. Chelsea is certainly changing under Maresca. Not every player fits every squad, and thats fine. A change of surroundings can help a player flourish. Could this be win-win? Absolutely. Atletico receives a great young midfielder to rejuvenate their midfield, and Gallagher shines on a new stage.

[topbitcoin]

I thought we would see Nico Williams in a Barcelona jersey next season. But this possibility is less now. But Nico Williams at Barcelona would have benefited both Barcelona and Williams. Because here he had Yamal as a teammate. We saw this pair perform well in the Spain jersey at the last Euro.

Nico Williams has become wishful thinking and it will never be realized, especially with the personal agreement between Barcelona and Dani Olmo now, Dani Olmo is the closest target they can do and it will be difficult to unite Dani Olmo and Nico Williams at Barcelona with his financial condition.

So by looking at this situation I think there is little hope to see Nico Williams at Barcelona especially Atletico will also keep Nico Williams and will not sell him to any club.

Nico Williams expected to stay at Athletic Bilbao despite Barcelona interest

By looking at this situation I think Barcelona would be better off focusing on the purchase of Dani Olmo because that is their only hope of bringing in players even though it cannot be denied that the price for Dani Olmo is also not cheap.

[Promocodeudo]

If you evaluate teams by their players, then Real Madrid looks stronger now, it's hard to argue with that, but the strength of a team is not always determined by that alone. If there is a team in La Liga that can stand up to Real Madrid, it is Barcelona, ​​Atletico often falls short of competing with them. And while Real Madrid is strengthening its team, Barcelona cannot afford it due to financial problems.

I wouldn't want to give the impression that Real Madrid is unbeatable or can't be matched by any of the Spanish clubs at the moment because you just can't say never in football but if you ask me, I don't think the current Barcelona squad has all it takes to match Real Madrid's strength. Winning Real Madrid in a preseason friendly game doesn't mean that Barcelona is now a complete squad because the game wasn't a competitive one so  you don't expect Real Madrid players to be at their best. Considering the current Real Madrid team, the quality and depth of squad, I don't think there's any Spanish club at the moment that can match Real Madrid's strength.

Yea, the game of soccer has know certain outcome, you have said it all, Real Madrid is a good team but anything is still possible, if Barcelona maintain their preseason performance, they are going to have a good season ahead, although I don't see laliga as a much competitive team but I know that there are some teams that will want to show some skills this coming season we never can tell, the season will soon start and we cant really predict what the seasoj holds for each of the teams, although i know that you are trying to judge with the current team of barcelona but let see what happens next.
With Realmadrid current team, one will easily conclude that the team will be able to lift the trophy again this season but sometimes we can't conclude things that way, Madrid is expected to perform more than any team in the Spanish laliga because of the quality of players in the team and their manager too but lets not always be sure until we see it coming to reality.

[Docnaster]

I thought we would see Nico Williams in a Barcelona jersey next season. But this possibility is less now. But Nico Williams at Barcelona would have benefited both Barcelona and Williams. Because here he had Yamal as a teammate. We saw this pair perform well in the Spain jersey at the last Euro.

It's very surprising to know that Barcelona are yet to finalize the signing of Nico Williams despite the strong speculations about their interests on the Spanish winger during the summer European Championship tournament. Williams had a very impressive performance with the Spain national team during the UEFA Euros Championship which forced Barcelona to start negotiating with his club Athletic Bilbao but surprisingly, the deal is yet to pull through at time. Other top European clubs are reported to be very interested in Williams and might hijack him anytime soon and if that happens, I feel Barcelona will surely regret for failing to sign him.

[TastyChillySauce00]

It seems like Conor Gallagher is on his way to Atletico Madrid. 



https://www.transfermarkt.com/set-to-sign-for-atletico-madrid-why-chelsea-may-regret-selling-conor-gallagher/view/news/441669

It looks like the sides have agreed upon a 40 million euros fee. This would be a great deal for Atletico Madrid honestly. Because Gallagher is one of the really good talents in midfield. Comparing him to the current CMs in Atletico Madrid squad, I believe he can outperform all of them. I don't mean they are weak of course but I see him as more talented. I wouldn't sell him if I were in Chelsea's place. I like his game. He is a fighter in midfield. 

Yeah, and how stupid Chelsea sold him for 40 millions. That's a full profit for Chelsea. Gallagher is a Chelsea academy product. But selling him to ATM was a big mistake. I'm quite happy to see him join ATM. It's because Gallagher is a great, high-endurance midfielder. He's very active when chasing the ball, etc.

He's going to strengthen ATM's. 40 millions is quite bargain for a proven midfielder like him. ATM is gonna be even more competitive by having Gallagher as its DM. Chelsea are over inflated, and the decision to release him is not that bad.

I don't know why people are so negative toward him. He's going to play for one of the biggest teams in Spain and back in the Champions League.

[TelolettOm]

Regarding Barcelona failing to buy Dani Olmo and Nico Williams, I also surprised, because from the available information it also appears that Barcelona finances have become better. And in fact, it was even reported that Dani Olmo and Nico Williams chose Barcelona as their new team in this transfer window. But I wonder why Barcelona is still failing to bring in new players, which makes me wonder whether Barcelona finances have really recovered or not.

Barcelona's financial might be getting better, but it might not be enough to spend that much money to sign some top players. And actually, it's not surprising, especially when at that time it was crowded and even their fans intended to raise funds for the successful signing of Nico Williams, but this also did not work. For Dani Olmo himself, it was reported that Barcelona had made a bid for the Attacking Midfield, but Leipzig did not want to release him at that price.


Source: Barça reach agreement with Dani Olmo on contract until June 2030 and send new official bid

Well, the negotiations were tough enough. Initially, Barcelona itself did not want to spend more money and would not force to do that. It's just that, the latest information is still around Barcelona's bidding at that number and actually, Dani Olmo himself really wants to join Barcelona. even they have agreed to a 6-year contract personally. just waiting for how Leipzig will release the player in Barcelona's latest offer.

With the current squad, flick must have the best strategy to utilize their players however it is. At least, they can continue to compete in the Top La Liga, at least, Yamal is in their front line and this makes the club more prepared than last season if seen from the development of Yamal's performance and other players.

[lixer]

You just saw a few preseason games last season to conclude that.
I think that's a big mistake, first there was no luck that made Real Madrid win the La Liga and Champion League last season, basically there was an increase in the quality of their young players who were much more mature and ready so that Real Madrid's performance was better.
And secondly Barcelona does not have a squad that is even and quality in every line like Real Madrid so I think what happened in this preseason cannot be used as any reference.
I even predict that Real Madrid will be able to easily defend the La Liga title without any pressure from any team including Barcelona.

Maybe we have different views on this.
But I look at the squads of both teams and I see Real Madrid players are quite scary for next season, so most likely we will see a much stronger performance from them next season.

These pre-season games usually have no strong reference because we all soccer fans understand about their reality these are play just for the purpose of fun for fans and having some exercise for players which are going to play in next season just because of this we have nothing updates related to them on any authentic poll.

Real Madrid is already done good job in last season despite many were having feeling about them playing without main striker is having not good for them, and they could be face consequences for this as well, but they have done historic job and having double and now fans are already feeling strong about them in coming season, but things could be not easy because we can expect change into performance even now they are having big names, but these are never been guaranteed to win but still they are having good chance of staying at this level for next season.

[Polkeins]

I thought we would see Nico Williams in a Barcelona jersey next season. But this possibility is less now. But Nico Williams at Barcelona would have benefited both Barcelona and Williams. Because here he had Yamal as a teammate. We saw this pair perform well in the Spain jersey at the last Euro.

It's very surprising to know that Barcelona are yet to finalize the signing of Nico Williams despite the strong speculations about their interests on the Spanish winger during the summer European Championship tournament. Williams had a very impressive performance with the Spain national team during the UEFA Euros Championship which forced Barcelona to start negotiating with his club Athletic Bilbao but surprisingly, the deal is yet to pull through at time. Other top European clubs are reported to be very interested in Williams and might hijack him anytime soon and if that happens, I feel Barcelona will surely regret for failing to sign him.

There are rumors around Niko that his brother Iñaki Williams is against Nico's move to Barcelona. While they both play for Athletic and apparently Inaki does not want his brother to go to another club and so far Nico is slow to respond to barcelona. Although apparently this is just an excuse and in fact, as with Dani Olmo, everything depends on the money that Barcelona can offer.
On August 12 Williams should return to the team and apparently he still has about a week to decide whether he will go to Barcelona or not.
In the same way, the situation with Dani Olmo is still unclear. Leipzig want to sell Olmo for 60 million euros, but Barcelona are ready to pay only 50 million, apparently the rest they want to spend on the purchase of Williams, as more promising compared to Olmo.  

[Zaguru12]

Regarding Barcelona failing to buy Dani Olmo and Nico Williams, I also surprised, because from the available information it also appears that Barcelona finances have become better. And in fact, it was even reported that Dani Olmo and Nico Williams chose Barcelona as their new team in this transfer window. But I wonder why Barcelona is still failing to bring in new players, which makes me wonder whether Barcelona finances have really recovered or not.

The two players have shown interest in coming to Barcelona, this two players will without doubt add depth and quality to the Barcelona squad and help strengthen them for the next few seasons. Barcelona themselves are looking towards signing both of this players but their financial situation is a restrain, when we talk about the financial situation that Barcelona are in is not only about the transfer fee needed to bring in this players but rather the wages and the allowed amount for players registered over the season.

The financial fair play also goes beyond transfer fees as they set out some requirements to be meet like the total amount a club can spend on wages per Season. With Barcelona already at that limit due to high wages that most of its players receives they need to either allow players with huge wages leave or they talked to those players to take a pay cut. Right now the first person on the list is Frankie De Jong who is on a whopping 600k wage, they have reduce the asking price to 35/40m but his wages is scaring away clubs like Manchester United away from him. They need to sell players like this before they can sign this two coming players

[Tony116]

These pre-season games usually have no strong reference because we all soccer fans understand about their reality these are play just for the purpose of fun for fans and having some exercise for players which are going to play in next season just because of this we have nothing updates related to them on any authentic poll.

Real Madrid is already done good job in last season despite many were having feeling about them playing without main striker is having not good for them, and they could be face consequences for this as well, but they have done historic job and having double and now fans are already feeling strong about them in coming season, but things could be not easy because we can expect change into performance even now they are having big names, but these are never been guaranteed to win but still they are having good chance of staying at this level for next season.

The preseason games are the friendly matches are not a good indication of how a team is going to perform in a season. And that is something we all have to keep in mind. In these friendly matches, the clubs are always trying to give those players some good amount of playing time who generally does not play. Coaches generally do not play important players in friendly matches because there is always a chance for them to get injured. They just play the players for a short period of time so that they can get themselves into the pitch and get on with things.

So I don’t think we should think too much about the friendly matches. You can obviously watch the friendly matches if you enjoy them. But those are never going to be a good indication of how a club will perform throughout the season.

[Juse14]

These pre-season games usually have no strong reference because we all soccer fans understand about their reality these are play just for the purpose of fun for fans and having some exercise for players which are going to play in next season just because of this we have nothing updates related to them on any authentic poll.

Real Madrid is already done good job in last season despite many were having feeling about them playing without main striker is having not good for them, and they could be face consequences for this as well, but they have done historic job and having double and now fans are already feeling strong about them in coming season, but things could be not easy because we can expect change into performance even now they are having big names, but these are never been guaranteed to win but still they are having good chance of staying at this level for next season.

The preseason games are the friendly matches are not a good indication of how a team is going to perform in a season. And that is something we all have to keep in mind. In these friendly matches, the clubs are always trying to give those players some good amount of playing time who generally does not play. Coaches generally do not play important players in friendly matches because there is always a chance for them to get injured. They just play the players for a short period of time so that they can get themselves into the pitch and get on with things.

So I don’t think we should think too much about the friendly matches. You can obviously watch the friendly matches if you enjoy them. But those are never going to be a good indication of how a club will perform throughout the season.

In friendlies, coaches also tend to try out new formations and strategies that may not have been tested before. The goal is to see how players adapt to the changes and find the best combination for the upcoming season. Therefore, the results of friendly matches often do not reflect the true strength of the team.

Furthermore, friendlies are often played in an atmosphere. So while it can be fun to watch your team win in a friendly, do not expect the same result to be repeated in an official match.

The bottom line is that preseason games are all about trying things out and getting ready. Nobody cares if the team wins or loses in a real match because that is where the pressure and intensity really matter. Therefore enjoy the friendlies as part of your team's preparation process but do not be too carried away in assessing the impact they will have on your team's performance in the upcoming season.

[W Jr.]

It seems like Conor Gallagher is on his way to Atletico Madrid. 



https://www.transfermarkt.com/set-to-sign-for-atletico-madrid-why-chelsea-may-regret-selling-conor-gallagher/view/news/441669

It looks like the sides have agreed upon a 40 million euros fee. This would be a great deal for Atletico Madrid honestly. Because Gallagher is one of the really good talents in midfield. Comparing him to the current CMs in Atletico Madrid squad, I believe he can outperform all of them. I don't mean they are weak of course but I see him as more talented. I wouldn't sell him if I were in Chelsea's place. I like his game. He is a fighter in midfield. 

Conor Gallagher to Atletico Madrid for €40m? Not bad at all. His consistency is lacking. But his raw talent remains. The kid is a natural playmaker, which Atletico needs today. Gallagher may invigorate their midfield, which has been lacking. He has enthusiasm, vision, and drive to succeed. His young, hungry attitude can shake up a team.

Is it risky? Every transfer involves risk. Yet Atletico isnt just throwing money around. Gallagher suits their agenda well. Chelsea is certainly changing under Maresca. Not every player fits every squad, and thats fine. A change of surroundings can help a player flourish. Could this be win-win? Absolutely. Atletico receives a great young midfielder to rejuvenate their midfield, and Gallagher shines on a new stage.

I think Gallagher went to one of the best teams he could go to. He will gain great experience in La Liga. Since Atletico Madrid will also play in Europe, if Gallagher plays in the main squad, he can play in very important matches in Europe. I think it would even be good for him to leave the team. As I said, Atletico Madrid is also the best team he could go to.