Bitmain to release S17E 64TH

[favebook]

Maybe bitmain is ready to do battle and price it low...

I was literally thinking the same, and for some reason, I think that the price for first batch will be somewhere between 3000$-3100$ however, second and third batches in my head are between 2800$ and 2950$. But we shall see how it turns out in around 9 hours.

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[MoparMiningLLC]

what screws it all up is the tariff's though - Bitmain has told me that they can ship from Malaysia but the MOQ is way out of my price range.

I will be most likely hoping to get my hands on T15's from within the US where I dont need to run two damn lines to the PSU - another expense which forces me to either have half the miners or leaves me needing to install more outlets - with only 20 outlets currently I can handle 20 T15/S15 and only 10 T17/S17

If I can find the 15's at a decent enough price it will more than make up for the reduction in hash rate.

now someone please buy my 13 S9's for 3k a piece lol

[taserz]

what screws it all up is the tariff's though - Bitmain has told me that they can ship from Malaysia but the MOQ is way out of my price range.

I will be most likely hoping to get my hands on T15's from within the US where I dont need to run two damn lines to the PSU - another expense which forces me to either have half the miners or leaves me needing to install more outlets - with only 20 outlets currently I can handle 20 T15/S15 and only 10 T17/S17

If I can find the 15's at a decent enough price it will more than make up for the reduction in hash rate.

now someone please buy my 13 S9's for 3k a piece lol

Group buy! 100 units ain't that bad I'd buy 5 depending on the price.

I would say I would help organize a group buy. But I know the headache would suck and the receiving and reshipping and what not. Would have to tag $150 in machine to receive and reship them. Plus god knows the taxxes owed from the tariff.

[MoparMiningLLC]

edit: yes a group buy to order from Malaysia would be great but yes a headache to set up and then to have someone escrow as well - Wish I had the cash to buy 100 units up front - would use 10 of em and sell the rest - would be happy to sell at cost and make break even point if i could.

[favebook]

I wasn't too wrong about prices but I am actually pretty confused with their listings:

Antminer S17e
Shipping date: 1-10, Nov. 2019
Price:$2784.00

Antminer S17e
Shipping date: 21-31, Dec. 2019
Price:$3293.00

WHAT?!

[philipma1957]

well order both sort it out later  ie pay for the cheap one.

I decided to buy 2 t17e's  for 3550 with the shipping

https://btc1.trezor.io/tx/bcdda9dd2120c27e490c4c63cb9e433c791917fc10772a6fa4c06eaf627a8042

https://btc1.trezor.io/address/1Ag9YvxtYoo1D34aKm6BwTug54NJc5aWzo

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Ag9YvxtYoo1D34aKm6BwTug54NJc5aWzo

[favebook]

I ordered the cheaper one(S17e) as it comes earlier... And it's cheaper

I found the reason for higher price for December's unit.
It seems as they added something called: "Product Reference Price" and "Actual Transaction Price".

You can read more about it on their page: https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020190909102622337qeAMQsXc06DB
in tab called "Notes".

[mochaaa]

nailed the price w/tariff. Batch 2 looking rough though

[PopoJeff]

Wow.  Those sold out quick.  Should've set an alarm

[Philipma1957cellphone]

So a new way to hurt the customer. They force a loan to them. Have to give them  credit for finding new and better ways to put it all on the buyer.

[mochaaa]

basically.. we will charge you what we think you will pay and if someone else tries to undercut (m21, etc) we will adjust price with coupons.

[Philipma1957cellphone]

Having mined with the t17 s17pro m20s m21s the two plug design is better. So I grabbed max hash by getting 2 t17e for 3550 vs 1 s17e for 2900  I rather have the 106 th hash then the 64th.

[MoparMiningLLC]

well order both sort it out later  ie pay for the cheap one.

I decided to buy 2 t17e's  for 3550 with the shipping

https://btc1.trezor.io/tx/bcdda9dd2120c27e490c4c63cb9e433c791917fc10772a6fa4c06eaf627a8042

https://btc1.trezor.io/address/1Ag9YvxtYoo1D34aKm6BwTug54NJc5aWzo

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Ag9YvxtYoo1D34aKm6BwTug54NJc5aWzo

nice! I am envious. I just cannot justify it with the tariff.

[Philipma1957cellphone]

nice! I am envious. I just cannot justify it with the tariff.

with this gear I am looking at 4300 for 106 th. It arrives 60-70 days.  I just paid 2600 for 50 th the t3 50 it was costly. And will take 80 days if it comes by the 15 of sept.

[octomob]

Also ordered 6 S17e's , 6 T17e's and 6 normal T17-38's. Will be waiting 

[Searing]

Well, Bitmain has its prices out now it seems.

https://shop.bitmain.com/

With what I pay with electric in the USA per kWh, even without the 27.6% tariff/import fees, not gonna fly.

Anyway, others on here may have some redress, if/when the USA Tariffs are pulled yet this fall.

Myself, still seems I'm out of mining of any note until probably well into next year, 2020.

Sucks. Them's the breaks.

Brad

[MoparMiningLLC]

with this gear I am looking at 4300 for 106 th. It arrives 60-70 days.  I just paid 2600 for 50 th the t3 50 it was costly. And will take 80 days if it comes by the 15 of sept.

thats right you share cost right? I am not that lucky, though you share profits too. I had to pay $330 tariffs on a 1400 machine, I cannot imagine what it would be on a $3k machine.

Also ordered 6 S17e's , 6 T17e's and 6 normal T17-38's. Will be waiting  

to mine with or to resell?

[Searing]

what screws it all up is the tariff's though - Bitmain has told me that they can ship from Malaysia but the MOQ is way out of my price range.

I will be most likely hoping to get my hands on T15's from within the US where I dont need to run two damn lines to the PSU - another expense which forces me to either have half the miners or leaves me needing to install more outlets - with only 20 outlets currently I can handle 20 T15/S15 and only 10 T17/S17

If I can find the 15's at a decent enough price it will more than make up for the reduction in hash rate.

now someone please buy my 13 S9's for 3k a piece lol

Malaysia from what I can tell has a VAT see below of 10%?

https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/country-guides/asia/malaysia.html

Then add shipping to that from both China and then from Maylasia (maybe both) also, how fast can they flip them out the door to the USA?

make sure it is not by ship! There would be at best IMHO, another 2-week lag to get them. Then of course if to the USA, shipping from the group buy USA location? (Not sure how this works).

Anyway, looks like a real mess to do and/or escrow, IMHO.

With my electric price even direct from Malaysia, it would be a heck of an optimistic stretch, but for others good luck.

Brad

[MoparMiningLLC]

not sure, all I know is the guy told me that they can ship from Malaysia to avoid the tariff but that it has to be a pretty large order. no onesie twosie orders.

[Searing]

I think the link above puts the VAT for Malaysia at 10%? If lucky 6%? Says something about 'sales tax' as well? No to mention who the hell is shipping this from Malaysia?

If Bitmain, that would be ideal, in that you'd only have the regular 'East Asia' to the USA shipping price. But if the first you have to ship to malaysia..then someone 'trustworthy' dorks about a week or so and then ships it so someone else 'trustworthy' for the group buy in the USA from Maylasia (2.6% import fee) and then finally after maybe another week or two lost in this shipping merry go round...it is shipped to the proper address. Man, I'd hate to escrow this puppy from either end of the chain.

Whatever I'm still out of this, but as an observer, with my 9.5c to 10c kWh electric prices. Sigh!

I'd also be in such a group buy in the onesie or twosie camp anyway

brad