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September 10, 2019, 12:39:18 PM
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This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.

If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?

If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.

If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.

That's how you think if you are a smart person, however, we cannot control the way other people's judgement and normally those people who judge you on what you are doing have no idea about gambling and maybe have no idea of taking risk.

When you are even trying to venture into business, you are already gambling or taking risk, but those who are safely employed will judge you because they are living in their comfort zone but judge people who get out and try to risk their money in business they think they will grow financially and as a person.



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September 10, 2019, 01:36:50 PM
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I think that will be on personal perception because we lived in many countries which have different culture and religion. Maybe that person doesn't want to give food to his family from the gambling, or the church doesn't want to accept donations from gambling. That will be their decision to do that because I think it's related to where we lived. I think it is better to follow what they want and don't against them because that will be a long debate which will waste our time without we can find an agreement between us. Let's them like that, and we can choose where we want to give the money, and we should respect their decision.

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September 10, 2019, 01:48:59 PM
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We have different perception regarding gambling and every one of us had a different belief. This is a long debate but if you are going to ask my opinion I did not consider that money that come from gambling is dirty. No is not, and gambling is not a crime. The dirty money that I have ever known are those came from serious crime. That is totally dirty, and there is no reason they did not accept if the donation comes from gambling besides there are many gambling companies that they have their own charity program.
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September 10, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
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Maybe by biblical point of view. Looking at when Jesus Christ scattered the gambling table in the synagogue and the Christian faith then sees it as what is not right for a Christian to do.
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September 10, 2019, 02:20:20 PM
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And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money.
I think that even dirty money can serve for a good deed. And I would not say that gambling is dirty money. Otherwise, gambling was banned everywhere and online too.

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September 10, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
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Gambling money for me isn’t a dirty money, after all it’s hard earned money that gamblers use when gambling but what made it dirty or a bad thing is because of those who can’t control themselves and ended up being addicted to gambling and lose almost everything. Gambling has both advantages and disadvantages like any other things, some may find gambling as a way to relieve from stress, to have fun and forget their worries or problems even for a short time. Some may gamble to make money because it’s the only way for them to a better life. However, gambling isn’t as simple as we think it is, it has the capability to control people mostly weak ones without them realizing it.
When you enter gambling there is a big risk that you’ll become addicted if you don’t have strong self control, thus, if you think you can’t control yourself then better not gamble.
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September 10, 2019, 02:51:45 PM
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I don't consider gambling money as dirty money and that's also the views of our government, in fact here in our country our casinos sponsored a lot of charitable institutions, hospitals and people who are in need, the government is working to get funds to support institutions and people and they have to use casino tax to meet it.

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September 10, 2019, 02:53:33 PM
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It is only considered as dirty money if it came from illegal way like money laundering. But gambling legally like in casinos, it helps that country's economy in some way like in our country, a percentage of our lottery's profit helps the poor from their hospital bills.
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September 10, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
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The argument is that you are taking someone else's money (if you win). In gambling, it is not something like you're stealing other people's money. The other party agrees to pay if they lose their bet. I don't think there's something wrong with that if you won fairly. When it comes to remittances to the government, I don't see any difference with taxes coming from other businesses and those coming from casinos or lotteries.
  

I can only speak for my views and will not include any religious views on my opinion, we should accept donation even if it's coming from gambling for the simple reason, it can help alleviate the needs and the sufferings of the people.
Just a silly question. What if the beneficiary was also a gambler whose losses contributed to the funds where donation is coming from?
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September 10, 2019, 03:03:21 PM
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And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


That secretary should be fired, that funds will help a lot of people who need money to buy books to educate young people, I wonder what country is that he has no control on the budget where it will come from the decision is on the president of the senate or the president of the country.

The government needs the money and especially if that government is not a very rich country and cannot support some of the things is people needs, we should be logical on this, but this is different if the country is being governed by religious practice.

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September 10, 2019, 03:21:35 PM
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I realized that was indeed wrong. If we look at it from the perspective of each religion, how is gambling wrong and it shouldn't be done. But, if we look at it from a Hobby's point of view, I think it's OK.

Sometimes the circumstances that make us have to force this, If people can only get money from gambling, how? Do we have to ban the person.

So, in this case all future risks and sins are borne by each person. it is someone's decision and right.
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September 10, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
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Truth is no one will deny that money no matter if its from clean hands or dirty hands.

If some religion forbids some activity we need to research why it happened,if we dig deep the reason is to stop mass people from getting addicted to it and people will only hear if there is some religion bind with it.









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September 10, 2019, 03:29:13 PM
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Most of the things you do for money are gambling in one sense or other. Every business you do have risks involved. Generally higher the risks, higher is your potential profit. Things like insurance decreases the risks you take but also decreases your overall profit.
Illegal money is dirty money. Wining on gambling is a fair way to earn your money.



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September 10, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
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Perhaps on Islam countries, this would be deemed as dirty money, but when it comes to the rest of the world, gambling money is perfectly fine as long as it's not used in crime or to launder money in any way. People and especially countries have their own moral viewpoint on gambling. For one, it helps create jobs and boost the economy, so why would they say no to something that could literally help them in the long run?
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September 10, 2019, 03:49:56 PM
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This is upto each and every individual users mind, because there are people who have their life completely dependent on the money earned out of gambling. From my view even if someone got lucky to win a lottery, will they not make use of it. So, if we think it is dirty money then it is dirty.

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What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

Doesnt agree with this but since this is part of Muslims views then i do respect it but overall it doesnt really mind too much on caring about on where those money came from.
Basing on the situation given above on of that Education secretary using up those funds on buying books and building classrooms then i dont see anything wrong with it.
Just to think on where those funds been used for.Lots of children will benefit it and thats what matter the most and i would definitely do the same and not minding that kind of
religious belief.

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Gambling is a worldwide industry, lots of people enjoy gambling. I disagree, I don’t see it as any kind of taboo or terrible thing. People lose money gambling, sure. People win lots too, I don’t feel sorry for people who become addicted to gambling, these kind of people are weak. You are the master of your own life.

Islam and other religions, especially Christians have their own belief about this, maybe you don't believe that it is some kind of taboo or whatever do you think it is but we share different worlds when it comes to religion, it just looks like you are not a dude who believes in God, I assume, though I understand your point. They are just respecting what God's says in the Bible, including gambling is a sin and illegal, even the Government is against gambling, but they are making an exception when they do have permits, which is funny because that only proves that they can be bought by money.
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but they are making an exception when they do have permits, which is funny because that only proves that they can be bought by money.

Anything in this world can be bought legally or illegally,even if you want to hide some part of words in religious books it can be done and future genearations might not know what happened in the past.

When someone doing gambling for addiction then there is no argue against that he need to be stop that but demanding everyone to stop just because people were addicted to it seems unfair.









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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



Greed is the root cause of why you gamble in the first place. So the gambling money you won is indeed dirty if your intention or mindset is dirty as well. When you force yourself to do gambling just because you want to earn more and you lack contentment with what you currently earn, then, in my honest and personal opinion, it becomes bad.

Simply put it this way. Consider your family or friends' belief about this and weigh it with what you believe. If you happen to be guilty in using your gambling money to provide for the people you love and care the most, then you can say that gambling money is indeed dirty. It's really just a matter of your own moral as a person.

 
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I completely disagree with this notion that Gambling is dirty money, we gamblers don’t steal money and play with it rather we play using our hard earned savings. Religion beliefs are not always right and people should not follow them blindly, they should use logic and then make an opinion about it.
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