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October 22, 2019, 06:25:57 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



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1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I guess one's attitude depends more on the society he belongs and values taught by parents. For me, my religion plays a very less role to define my interests and desires. I have been gambling for past 4 years now and running my expenses through gambling wins. One of my uncle fulfills his desires from money from gambling which wont have been possible looking at his current earnings except from gambling. I personally think gambling money is not a stable source of earning and is not dirty at all . You can donate some of it if you feel its dirty and feel better about yourself !

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October 22, 2019, 06:35:53 AM
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My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college,


Your mother did not want you to get addicted to gambling while in college,  that is the reason why,  perhaps she did a great job by advising you to face your studies , because you might be carried away by the money being made from gambling while in college

One of the reasons also why government itself restrict the age limit so that under 18 people who do not have much maturity at times stay away from gambling and that is the purpose of having age restriction. Also I think if in religious it is fine and government does allow to play legally it is fine to play and win amount as well.


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October 22, 2019, 06:49:48 AM
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I disagree, gambling money is not dirty money, It's about the perspective of the person who gambles and the perspective of your culture and country to gambling. In my perspective gambling is a hobby to enjoy yourself because there's a feeling of euphoria when you win it feels good it's not only about money it's about the enjoyment it gives to you. It's not dirty money because there is a gambling industry and most of the GDP of the country comes from casinos and derbies. I think it becomes dirty money when you gamble on illegal gambling like dog fights but just like I said it depends on the perspective.

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October 22, 2019, 06:56:14 AM
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It's their mindset and negative thoughts on gambling that brought them being like that.
Yes, exactly. How gambling may be seen depends on one's perspective or mindset. The things instilled to them when they were young may also affect them on how they see gambling when they grow up.

I remember, when I was little, my parents always remind me not to get involved with any activities which relate to gambling because it's bad and not meant for children. Of course as a child, I obeyed them. But as I grew older, I realized that gambling can also be fun. But, I took the term "gambling is bad" according to my parents in a sense that it can corrupt someones mind and might cause addiction.

With proper control, and as long as you gamble with your own money and not hurting people in anyway, the money you earned thru gambling is just fine.



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October 22, 2019, 01:53:38 PM
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October 22, 2019, 03:06:59 PM
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I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.

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October 22, 2019, 08:26:32 PM
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I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
So anything comes from forbidden things is dirty? Then most of income sources are dirty because people making it from cheating government from paying taxes or earned it in wrong way.

Don't decide the money is dirty based on the forbidden things just decide did you earned in dirty way or in good...

But one thing only paper will nit be trashed even if it goes dirty is money.

Yes, that's right! because not all the money from gambling is dirty am I right? and not all gambling sessions are dirty. Because we all gamble to earn money then, when do you earn money through gambling? and you can tell it again the gambling money is dirty? of course no one can say that again! Because he only raised his money through gambling.



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October 23, 2019, 02:02:34 AM
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It still depends, for my perception about gambling become dirty is when, illegal activities are present specifically from the source of funds that they provide in order to bet and participate on games. But when it comes to just gambling and playing, this is just a good source of entertainment and money as well. We shouldn't think of gambling negatively, because some gambling platforms donates on charities as well as big time betters who won much in playing.

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October 23, 2019, 02:56:30 AM
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I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
Well gambling has a pros and cons and maybe thats the reason why for some religion gambling is forbidden. However it doesnt mean the money we accumulate in gambling is dirty because it didnt came from illegal activities. Its just that it has a bad effect for gambler who dont have control because it can led to addiction.



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October 23, 2019, 04:35:20 AM
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I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
Well gambling has a pros and cons and maybe thats the reason why for some religion gambling is forbidden. However it doesnt mean the money we accumulate in gambling is dirty because it didnt came from illegal activities. Its just that it has a bad effect for gambler who dont have control because it can led to addiction.
In religion that i know, everything what we do from a sin is dirty. And gambling for now considered as illegal activities in some countries. I think the "rules" is already happen since long time ago.

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October 23, 2019, 05:25:25 AM
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I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.
Well gambling has a pros and cons and maybe thats the reason why for some religion gambling is forbidden. However it doesnt mean the money we accumulate in gambling is dirty because it didnt came from illegal activities. Its just that it has a bad effect for gambler who dont have control because it can led to addiction.
Gambling is actually forbidden in some religion since it's a temptation for them that human mind found it difficult to control or deal with hence they look or consider it in a negative way. In reality, gambling isn't really a temptation but rather a way to entertain yourself with trying to test if your fortune can bring you profit.

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October 23, 2019, 05:29:45 AM
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I somewhat agree that gambling is dirty money because it doesn't look good on society, nation, country. Even in different religions, it is forbidden. mainly in Islam. But it's also true that Nobody force someone to involve in the gamble. So If a person involves in gambles, then it does not make sense to blame other people.

There is no need to blame other people because he plays gambling. That will be every individual's responsibility for what he did, and we can only give suggestions to him that playing gambling is not good. I think in all religions, gambling is prohibited, especially in Islam, there was a strict rule that says gambling is forbidden and it's haram. All people will have a different point of view so we cannot say that they are wrong and we are right.



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October 23, 2019, 02:55:53 PM
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For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
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October 23, 2019, 03:23:35 PM
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For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
It depends among the countries mate because even how young loves gambling but if this is prohibited by the government the still this is a dirty money since it’s against the law

It still depends, for my perception about gambling become dirty is when, illegal activities are present specifically from the source of funds that they provide in order to bet and participate on games. But when it comes to just gambling and playing, this is just a good source of entertainment and money as well. We shouldn't think of gambling negatively, because some gambling platforms donates on charities as well as big time betters who won much in playing.
Being illegal in a country it becomes dirty as well right?not unless there’s a specific place to make gambling in that said country then there will be exemptions

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October 23, 2019, 06:59:38 PM
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A question to ask is "Why would some people call it dirty money?"
I believe a reason (which by the way I personally also support) is that the money someone wins in gambling are someone else's money, possibly money they could not afford to lose but their addiction drove them to lose them anyway and now you hold them.

This is why I don't gamble.
There's a fine line though between gambling and investing, so think this through yourselves.
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October 23, 2019, 08:16:58 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



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1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



I guess one's attitude depends more on the society he belongs and values taught by parents. For me, my religion plays a very less role to define my interests and desires. I have been gambling for past 4 years now and running my expenses through gambling wins. One of my uncle fulfills his desires from money from gambling which wont have been possible looking at his current earnings except from gambling. I personally think gambling money is not a stable source of earning and is not dirty at all . You can donate some of it if you feel its dirty and feel better about yourself !
For sure our parents are so possessive about us they want us to be safe and not to be addicted about gambling to suffer lose in our studies. So money is not bad but everything is good on its own time when you will be young enough to handle this addictions so the  parents will not stop you from gambling they will allow you.

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October 23, 2019, 09:51:25 PM
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For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
In fact, many gamblers are old people and not all old people consider gambling to be dirty money, and similarly to modern people, not all of them gamble and there are some modern people who think gambling is dirty money. So in this matter at least the crime is a cause of gambling itself if indeed the gambler does not have control because of the pressure in defeat and bankruptcy, but the meaning of dirty money is money that comes from gambling itself and not the cause of gambling.

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Plenty of old people play poker and bet on horses, its not a new invention.    The dirty money is usually a reference to the operations that run the house not the gamblers themselves so far as I know.   The idea being some business is superior to others, farming is superior to alcohol distillation I guess even though they both involve ingredients and production.   Smoking or Tobacco production is often viewed as a dirty industry or negative in its consequences.   
   One industry people would recognize as modern day dirty money would be big oil companies, thats avoided as investment by some and considered to a higher risk, dirty industry.   Coal mining, once the life blood of many communities is considered a dirty industry which scars the countryside, depends how you view it but the people wouldn't be in those places even if coal hadnt been such big business.    Gambling by itself is fine, horse betting is fine and produces and supports a sport with great history to it.   I dont view things in this way but thats the origins of that reference, theres always good and bad examples in every sector of industry.   Thats a better point imo

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October 23, 2019, 10:52:21 PM
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For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
It's true that the old folks that has not been open to gambling and will consider it as a dirty money. They don't know that this industry is bigger than they are thinking and that's why some countries prosper through it. And for the religions that treats it like that, let them believe it and we have to respect their beliefs and so the old folks. That's what they think and we just have to understand the situation on why they have that kind of belief with money from gambling.

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October 24, 2019, 02:17:06 AM
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Dirty money in gambling yes true every money you've get in gambling are called dirty money. Because some gambling are illegal.
Gambling is not good also to us because its cause addicted.

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