DT everyone? cryptoji.net agency cheating translators from the forum

[Harold Finch]

There is a differnet between "after work approved" and 'after completion" , I think it is obivious for everyone , you did not asked for more details and we were very cautions in choosing our words , we have received more than 10 scam translations only for the same whitepaper you worked on , how can you expect us to pay for something not approved by a native speaker , ? (I am not accusing your work quality here)

You can search for the legal meaning of word "approved",

Another time , for everyone who claim a scam , for the moderators they gave us Red flag , we are here to solve the problem,,,

Stop trying to justify yourself and your worthless translation shitty agency.

You deceived the translators and when you were caught in the ass, you disappeared like a coward who crap in his pants  
Haven’t seen such a shameful obedience in this forum for a long time, sure that after such a deception no one will work with you.

You have earned several negative reviews at once.

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[starkovblue]

There is a differnet between "after work approved" and 'after completion" , I think it is obivious for everyone , you did not asked for more details and we were very cautions in choosing our words , we have received more than 10 scam translations only for the same whitepaper you worked on , how can you expect us to pay for something not approved by a native speaker , ? (I am not accusing your work quality here)

You can search for the legal meaning of word "approved",

Another time , for everyone who claim a scam , for the moderators they gave us Red flag , we are here to solve the problem,,,

You are lying and I’m have evidence from the correspondence in telegram.
Here is a screenshot of your message.
    MAYBE SUNDAY WOULD BE A MAX DATE FOR PAYMENT   



My words are confirmed by another translator who works for you.

This was not the original agreement. Initially, I was told that the payment will be done on work approval in ETH by ChiNgad0r. So when I contacted you regarding the payments on finding my translation uploaded on the Epic Cash Website , you said that you'll be paying me and other translators in USDC on Sunday (15th September 2019). After which there has been no response from you until now. How long are you planning to feed fall hopes to your translators? Why don't you give an exact date by which we can receive the payment.

By our agreement, you were supposed to pay on Sunday, 15 September.

But instead, you disappeared and stopped responding to messages that the words of other translators prove here. Or do they also lie or didn’t understand something?

The work was perfectly done, and in correspondence with those who ordered translate from you(epiccash team), there was confirmation of this great work.

You should have paid, but you did not. Stop deceiving everyone here that you are innocent. The flag will be removed only if you pay all translators and not a minute earlier.
If moderators read here, check out the reviews, as well as screenshots.

[akhjob]

There is a differnet between "after work approved" and 'after completion" , I think it is obivious for everyone , you did not asked for more details and we were very cautions in choosing our words,
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Yeah, you are cautious, for that, I give you credit.

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We  will do half of the payment for all the new hired translators as a proof of our good seek in condition of denying every single scam claim against us , rest payment will be completed just after clearing things up ,

The rest translators will get their payment in december as the contract said. I am not sure is this is allowed in the forum regulations but I can't see other way to solve this (propositions are welcome)
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Since you are very cautious in choosing words, let's get more clarity on what you have proposed

We will do half of the payment for all the new hired translators

When is this exactly, this year? next year? or are you even planning to pay?

rest payment will be completed just after clearing things up

Clearing what? you mean clearing the mess in your room or the mess you had done to the translators by using cautious word selection.

The rest translators will get their payment in december as the contract said

So by December, you mean December 2019 or December 2100?


Why don't you cut your shitty excuses and start paying the translators to get the flag dropped. Btw, it was funny to see that Jatawneh has left you a positive feedback a few days back. I have pmed him to share his story here with payment details.

[Little Mouse]

Btw, it was funny to see that Jatawneh has left you a positive feedback a few days back. I have pmed him to share his story here with payment details.

That's IRONY.
cyramji is paying selectively who didn't stand against them? Or it's a fake feedback?
It's really stupid that cyramji still didn't pay and trying to defend his mistakes. In my early contract which I didn't accept though, he said me to pay December. But it seems the contract was different for different users.
Jatawneh is arabic translator, I had talked with him regarding Epic Cash and at some point he said me cyramji hasn't paid yet. It was September 25 probably and the feedback is from October. If he can get paid, what's wrong with others?

[erikalui]

I am OK with receiving half payment this month and half payment by December 2019. My ETH address is with ChiNgadOr already.

[Jatawneh]

Btw, it was funny to see that Jatawneh has left you a positive feedback a few days back. I have pmed him to share his story here with payment details.

Hello yes I receive my payment and I hope he pay for all the translators if he did not pay i will remove the positive feedback .
why I am paid is Coz he still has some fund with Epic cash team , i do not know how much but I am a community manager in EPIC Cash and he was instructed by the team to pay me for the translation.
 

TXID = B20ED549EEBBB4831C5FFFF9200E9EC329BAFD5EF8E07166015248D2BEC1FF8D
Address= bnb136ns6lfw4zs5hg4n85vdthaad7hq5m4gtkgf23   
Memo = 107448883
Amount = 11.46

[cyramji]

Btw, it was funny to see that Jatawneh has left you a positive feedback a few days back. I have pmed him to share his story here with payment details.

Hello yes I receive my payment and I hope he pay for all the translators if he did not pay i will remove the positive feedback .
why I am paid is Coz he still has some fund with Epic cash team , i do not know how much but I am a community manager in EPIC Cash and he was instructed by the team to pay me for the translation.
 

TXID = B20ED549EEBBB4831C5FFFF9200E9EC329BAFD5EF8E07166015248D2BEC1FF8D
Address= bnb136ns6lfw4zs5hg4n85vdthaad7hq5m4gtkgf23   
Memo = 107448883
Amount = 11.46

Maybe you can explain what happened more in details ?

[TECSHARE]

all the year with no signle problem , they are all members here in the forum and the can confirm that one by one .

 

The arabic translator who is also an EPIC moderator attended everything and he knows what happened with details , you can all reach him out for confirmations.



Now , we are ready to solve this problem even though the damage we got from this thread is higher than what it costs to solve it .We had limited resources since we work for unlisted tokens , we tried to reach all the project members we work with personally and they are ready to pay our translators  now in the condition of solving this problem and proving the opposite of this claim.



We  will do half of the payment for all the new hired translators as a proof of our good seek in condition of denying every single scam claim against us , rest payment will be completed just after clearing things up ,

The rest translators will get their payment in december as the contract said. I am not sure is this is allowed in the forum regulations but I can't see other way to solve this (propositions are welcome)



Sorry again, this is our first fault since more than a year .We learned a lot from it , We believe it wont repeat again . Sorry for everyone he put efforts and time trying to help or trying to analyse here in the comments , apologies

That's not how this works. You don't get to leverage payments you already agreed to to force people to remove ratings for you. YOU are in breech of contract first, thus you hold all the liabilities. In fact everyone who made translations at this point doesn't even owe you corrections because you owe them payment for the violated contract but they are released form all of its obligations under the law. You had plenty of time to make your case to the community but you instead opted to threaten users behind the scenes and try to bully them into favorable resolutions for yourself. You are only digging your hole deeper. Pay EVERYONE 100%. Once that is done I will be happy to personally advocate for people removing your ratings. You aren't in charge any more. You failed to manage your project properly then ignored the communities demands you explain yourself. Now once you realized there was a price to be paid for doing this now you want to pretend to cooperate, but still actually just continue to dictate terms. No. You make it right or your reputation here will forever carry those marks. You let this get so far out of hand the community had to get involved, you aren't in charge any more, now you get to take orders or live with the consequences of your actions. Choose which you prefer.

[Little Mouse]

Maybe you can explain what happened more in details ?

Why don't you share what happened in detail? You said this topic has cost you a lot, but if you shared what's going around, if you would respond here with logical arguments, I doubt all this things would happen. Rather you choose the more complex way to solve it.

[Jatawneh]

Maybe you can explain what happened more in details ?

I translated epic cash wp i was contacted by your CEO Ramzi to do the translation,
after that i start DM Ramzi for payment but he did not replay me back, I talk to Epic Cash team as I am doing community work for them and I told them I need the agency translation to pay for my work, so the team when they send you 2400$ they ask you to pay me.
in my DM to you I ask you to pay other translators but I am not sure how many translator you pay.
Pls Pay people for the work they do.

you say you will solve this and pay but I cant see any progress.  

I give positive feed at Trust summary base in the fact that you pay me and base in the what you told me, that you will pay other people ,
I will delete this and not give any feed until you pay all.

Facts I know:
  


1.  Each wp you charge 400usd

2.before work you receive deposit half pay.  (23*200= approximate 4600 usd)

3. after mainnet you receive 2400 usd.  and that when team ask you to pay me.

so You receive 75% pay of the translation work you did for Epic.  

pls. pay the translators.





 

[cyramji]

https://imgur.com/a/57U5qmU

Look if I wanted to scam you all , why I am talking to you  now ? I did not get your point , I dont know what you wanna reach from all this endless discussion , You wanna get paid ? you want to approve you are right ? I said sorry was wrong , I did not treat things as It should be , I said sorry multiple time , I am over all this now . I proposed a solution , waiting for confirmation , Half payment will be sent first , this thread deleted. all the accusations should be removed , second half payment received , cut this out. I understand you anger and your point , but what happened happened , I am sorry and am over it , This is my last msg here.

[RapTarX]

https://imgur.com/a/57U5qmU

Look if I wanted to scam you all , why I am talking to you  now ? I did not get your point , I dont know what you wanna reach from all this endless discussion , You wanna get paid ? you want to approve you are right ? I said sorry was wrong , I did not treat things as It should be , I said sorry multiple time , I am over all this now . I proposed a solution , waiting for confirmation , Half payment will be sent first , this thread deleted. all the accusations should be removed , second half payment received , cut this out. I understand you anger and your point , but what happened happened , I am sorry and am over it , This is my last msg here.

If you pay all the translators accordingly, this thread is nothing subjective to harm your reputation. As per the previous post, you already have received 75% of the payment. Then what has restricted you not paying the translators? Why this thread must be deleted after half payment, if you settle down the problem, the topic will contain zero value.

[TECSHARE]

https://imgur.com/a/57U5qmU

Look if I wanted to scam you all , why I am talking to you  now ? I did not get your point , I dont know what you wanna reach from all this endless discussion , You wanna get paid ? you want to approve you are right ? I said sorry was wrong , I did not treat things as It should be , I said sorry multiple time , I am over all this now . I proposed a solution , waiting for confirmation , Half payment will be sent first , this thread deleted. all the accusations should be removed , second half payment received , cut this out. I understand you anger and your point , but what happened happened , I am sorry and am over it , This is my last msg here.

Save the indignation. You fucked up, now you are suffering the consequences. You don't get to dictate or make any demands, you lost that right the moment you violated the contracts and more so when you ignored the community request for your side of the story. You forced community involvement and resolution of this issue, now we are here commanding YOU.

Pay ALL translators, NOW, an IN FULL. You don't get to make any demands. At this point you will be lucky to salvage your reputation after this is over. You had plenty of opportunity to make your case and you decided to blow the whole community who you depend on off. You fucked up, now deal with the consequences, or shut down your project and leave because those are your options.

[endlasuresh]

https://imgur.com/a/57U5qmU

Look if I wanted to scam you all , why I am talking to you  now ? I did not get your point , I dont know what you wanna reach from all this endless discussion , You wanna get paid ? you want to approve you are right ? I said sorry was wrong , I did not treat things as It should be , I said sorry multiple time , I am over all this now . I proposed a solution , waiting for confirmation , Half payment will be sent first , this thread deleted. all the accusations should be removed , second half payment received , cut this out. I understand you anger and your point , but what happened happened , I am sorry and am over it , This is my last msg here.

You said no private message on messenger, so when you are going to pay? we have nothing to do with moderators or anyone.
Please pay the amount as per agreement what you told. Why are you wasting our precious time.

[starkovblue]

https://imgur.com/a/57U5qmU

Look if I wanted to scam you all , why I am talking to you  now ? I did not get your point , I dont know what you wanna reach from all this endless discussion , You wanna get paid ? you want to approve you are right ? I said sorry was wrong , I did not treat things as It should be , I said sorry multiple time , I am over all this now . I proposed a solution , waiting for confirmation , Half payment will be sent first , this thread deleted. all the accusations should be removed , second half payment received , cut this out. I understand you anger and your point , but what happened happened , I am sorry and am over it , This is my last msg here.

You see why we are all outraged, you don’t want to make contact and refuse to answer claims.
On this forum, this does not work.
If you ordered a job from us that everyone did, you have to pay. Otherwise, you are deceiving everyone.

It has been several months now and you did not pay the translators (only to the one who conducted the transaction through the escrow), so the agreements were disrupted by YOU.

[ChiNgadOr]

Last message received from Cryptoji is from 7th september. He appears connected in telegram but don't read or answer my messages.
You really can't understand how I feel.. not just for the huge amount of work with my spanish translations but also for having to contact and organize the works of so many translators.. some of them good friends I made along the way and many new guys I really dont know. I worked for 13 projects, and only received tokens (worthless/useless right now) of 2 projects as payment for my translations.
I feel very sorry for all this what happened and want to apologize for all.
If everything was fine, we shouldn't be having this discussion. so I don't underst why is cryptoji silent.. Anyway, Cryptoji claimed payment on december, let's wait until then

[erikalui]

One month to go so will wait till December but the way he is silent doesn't sound convincing at all. He asked me my ETH address and I gave it to him. Let's hope he pays now.

[endlasuresh]

He won't pay anything as he is just looking to get out from the Negative trust, what I can say when he received 75% should have paid to everyone, but he isn't
He also asked my Ether address and never paid a dime.

[aundroid]

Last message received from Cryptoji is from 7th september. He appears connected in telegram but don't read or answer my messages.

Same with me. No reaction to any message.
He still owes me the payment for two projects:
First for the website of 2key and then for the whitepaper of Epic Cash.

Since I'm really annoyed by the fact that I don't get any response, I have supported the flag for now.

[Virtualface]

So ... it's December. Where are the payments?