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May 04, 2020, 09:10:27 PM
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Still building out this consolidation in the $8,000s. It's a bull flag until proven otherwise. Bullish headfake off the lower bands here:



The 4-hour bands are pretty tight, should be a solid breakout coming within the next day or two. Looking for a close above $9,100 or below $8,600. Everything in between is noise.

If the market breaks down, I would look for a wick through the 200-day MA ($7,995) and the 4-hour S1 pivot in the $7,800s.

Most traders I know are bullish, but a couple are looking at similar scenarios:
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XBTUSD/h12mACut-Wyckoff-Take-III-the-floor-gives-way-back-to-where-we-started/
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/2nOcSsww-CHANCE-For-a-Shakeout-on-Wednesday-May-6-2020-to-low-7K-s/

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May 06, 2020, 01:46:19 PM
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Price is starting to form an ascending triangle from the horizontal channel on the 4hr now, am therefore leaning bullish with confirmation from a break out of the strong resistance level around $9,350. Another higher lower on smaller time-frames would definitely confirm this bullish triangle formation at least, otherwise we may just be confirming the long-term resistance trend-line from the 20K, 14K and 10.5K highs as previously referenced testing and now is around $9,470 by my drawings on a Weekly scale.



Will be interesting to see what happens either way. Don't be surprised to see $14K soon or a re-test of $7K after the halving in my opinion.
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May 06, 2020, 08:44:02 PM
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Price is starting to form an ascending triangle from the horizontal channel on the 4hr now, am therefore leaning bullish with confirmation from a break out of the strong resistance level around $9,350. Another higher lower on smaller time-frames would definitely confirm this bullish triangle formation at least, otherwise we may just be confirming the long-term resistance trend-line from the 20K, 14K and 10.5K highs as previously referenced testing and now is around $9,470 by my drawings on a Weekly scale.



Will be interesting to see what happens either way. Don't be surprised to see $14K soon or a re-test of $7K after the halving in my opinion.
CME Futures Gap at $7,625 and David said "Of course, I would prefer we go ahead and fill the CME Futures Gap at $7,625 "BEFORE" we continue going up rather than after we go up. Filling the gap afterward (as mentioned in the Aqua Blue Text Bubble) holds us back from going as high on this current run up till last week of May to first week of June. My opinion of course."

Maybe we'll see the $7K again
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May 07, 2020, 06:17:08 PM
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CME Futures Gap at $7,625 and David said "Of course, I would prefer we go ahead and fill the CME Futures Gap at $7,625 "BEFORE" we continue going up rather than after we go up. Filling the gap afterward (as mentioned in the Aqua Blue Text Bubble) holds us back from going as high on this current run up till last week of May to first week of June. My opinion of course."

Maybe we'll see the $7K again

The market doesn't have to fill that gap, although it probably will at some point.

After a choppy breakout, we've finally got some movement:



Daily R1 is at $10K, could see some profit taking there. I'm looking to start deleveraging soon myself. However I wouldn't be surprised to consolidate and eventually push to that R2 level towards the mid-$11Ks.

That would be the perfect stopping point for this triangle scenario drawn in March:



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May 08, 2020, 08:57:16 AM
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Sentiment is beginning to make me nervous. Shorts have been obliterated down to February levels, longs rising significantly:



The Fear & Greed index is now registering "greed":



In general, I'm seeing lots of moon calls now too. Still seeing a few bears around but they've mostly gone quiet, and shorts have obviously been massacred.

On price action alone, the small intraday pullback off $10K doesn't look like a significant top. But sentiment tells me we might be forming one over the next few days. A classic BTC shakeout may be in the cards:

The magnitude of any upcoming correction depends on how high the market goes first. If bears hold firm below $10,500 then the mid-$6,000s aren't off the table yet.

Based on historical monthly corrections, I wouldn't expect to crash much harder than 40% (if that) or hold below the 0.618 retracement level. From $12K, that puts the limit in the low $7,000s. That's the lowest I would expect; it could end up shallower.

One thing I know is this: right now it looks like BTC can't possibly go down, but things can change very quickly when a 40% correction comes, like the summers of 2016 and 2017. Bull market corrections can be very brutal in BTC.

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May 09, 2020, 12:25:52 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1), El duderino_ (1)
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Sentiment is beginning to make me nervous. Shorts have been obliterated down to February levels, longs rising significantly:



The Fear & Greed index is now registering "greed":



In general, I'm seeing lots of moon calls now too. Still seeing a few bears around but they've mostly gone quiet, and shorts have obviously been massacred.

On price action alone, the small intraday pullback off $10K doesn't look like a significant top. But sentiment tells me we might be forming one over the next few days. A classic BTC shakeout may be in the cards:

The magnitude of any upcoming correction depends on how high the market goes first. If bears hold firm below $10,500 then the mid-$6,000s aren't off the table yet.

Based on historical monthly corrections, I wouldn't expect to crash much harder than 40% (if that) or hold below the 0.618 retracement level. From $12K, that puts the limit in the low $7,000s. That's the lowest I would expect; it could end up shallower.

One thing I know is this: right now it looks like BTC can't possibly go down, but things can change very quickly when a 40% correction comes, like the summers of 2016 and 2017. Bull market corrections can be very brutal in BTC.
Thanks for info, over-leveverged longs is never a good sign,  neither is greed in my opinion even if not very high. Furthermore, moon calls below 10.5K critical resistance makes no sense, as do any claims of a head & shoulders macro pattern that requires a break of the 4K neckline to confirm (very uninteresting).
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May 10, 2020, 01:09:56 AM
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Bulls were too overconfident after all. This is the shakeout I've been nervous about:



The flush ended right in the area of the daily pivot and 200-day MA. There's a chance the market goes no lower than that.

The next day or two are crucial. I want to see if bears start piling on shorts as this consolidates, which could indicate a bear trap. More importantly, I want to see whether this dump quickly and fully retraces, which would indicate strong bull market behavior.

If the market gets back above the $9,560 daily high, it's game over for bears. Conversely if this bleeds into a bearish consolidation, the area around the 0.5 Fibonacci level ($7K) and daily S1 ($6,700) become attractive target levels.

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May 11, 2020, 06:52:59 AM
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The next day or two are crucial. I want to see if bears start piling on shorts as this consolidates, which could indicate a bear trap. More importantly, I want to see whether this dump quickly and fully retraces, which would indicate strong bull market behavior.

Update on short levels:



Bitmex funding rates are still trending positive as well. Despite the crash, the market isn't being heavily shorted. This is generally a bearish sign. Also no immediate retrace, just sideways below the 0.382, which is not very bullish. Possible path for a dead cat bounce:



That was a really high volume dump candle, the highest daily USD volume on Coinbase Pro since March 13th. That's another sign the March-May rally is exhausted.

Unless bulls surprise me and retake control above that $9,560 pivot, I'm expecting more downside.

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May 11, 2020, 11:25:34 PM
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Now that we have a potential mid-term top in place, I want to provide an update to the multi-year triangle idea and offer an alternative path forward.

In Elliott Wave theory, triangle bounds are not formed by existing trend lines (like the one extending from $19,666). The bounds are formed by the A-C and B-D lines. Assuming the $10,074 high completed Wave D, then the aqua converging lines shown here are now the basis for our triangle:



The 200-week MA is edging higher, now standing around $5,800. It's possible the market is setting up for another (shallower) 200-week MA test, just like it did in August 2015.

According to EW guidelines:

  • Wave E is usually a zigzag family pattern or the same type of Triangle as the larger pattern.
  • In a contracting triangle, Wave E normally retraces Wave D by about 70%.

So I like this idea for two reasons. Not only does the 70% retracement guideline line up perfectly with the 200-week MA, but such a correction would also suggest a Wave E contracting triangle. This would make the anticipated breakout (in late 2020 or early 2021) very easy to recognize.

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Been reading your posts since xxxx123abcxxxx's threads. Good to find your own thread, your last analysis really makes sense. Considering the halving pump, I also still think that we are in a bear market since 2018 january. And a huge triangle which you also have stated is a really likely pattern after a huge bull run.
I also want to add that, because of the crazy FUD and FOMO levels we have in bitcoin, it is likely to see another crazy wick towards 3-4k usd area. Here is an analysis I have made 2 months ago.
which also can state another huge wick is likely.

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I also want to add that, because of the crazy FUD and FOMO levels we have in bitcoin, it is likely to see another crazy wick towards 3-4k usd area. Here is an analysis I have made 2 months ago.
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/GwAi28Tp-BTC-28-February-2020-A-Perfect-End-to-A-Perfect-Triangle/
which also can state another huge wick is likely.

Here is my current point of view. Would love to hear your opinion.

I agree about BTC's tendency towards extremes in both directions. The lower bound of the triangle is in the $4K area, which is not totally off the table.

However I believe the panic levels would be muted compared to the March crash, which I view as a January 2015-like capitulation. I would expect something more like August 2015, with a significantly higher low.

That's why I would not necessarily target the triangle bound. In EW, Wave E often doesn't make it all the way there. The 0.618-0.705 zone (maybe down to the 0.786) is more attractive.

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 In EW, Wave E often doesn't make it all the way there. The 0.618-0.705 zone (maybe down to the 0.786) is more attractive.

Yes, this is totally right, my first chart ignores it, thanks for pointing that.
Also we should keep in mind the huge correction starting from 2018 January can turn into a WXY (I considered a huge ABC before April 2020 but the current move eliminated that wave structure...), which can break down 4k level and turn the triangle's C-D-E into a A-B-C and lead us to 2500-1800 level...

This is both a curse and a blessing for elliott waves, tons of probabilities that confuses you but also prepares you for every weird possibility...
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Impressive recovery on the daily chart. Approaching 4-hour pivot resistance now. Very interested to see if BTC can manage to close the day above that $9,560 area.



If sellers don't come in soon, that was one hell of a bear trap. Bitfinex shorts are up 30% in the past few days.....

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Impressive recovery on the daily chart. Approaching 4-hour pivot resistance now. Very interested to see if BTC can manage to close the day above that $9,560 area.



If sellers don't come in soon, that was one hell of a bear trap. Bitfinex shorts are up 30% in the past few days.....

Seems like less than 24 hours ago, I was wondering if we were going to get back into the $9ks... so yeah... a curious place to be.

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If sellers don't come in soon, that was one hell of a bear trap. Bitfinex shorts are up 30% in the past few days.....

Seems like less than 24 hours ago, I was wondering if we were going to get back into the $9ks... so yeah... a curious place to be.

Seems like an eternity since that crash on Monday, and then all the trader influencers were starting to look like geniuses calling the top at 9k. Yet here we are again on friday looking like we could be doing another 10k. I feel like someone or some people are taking a piss out of us all, and steadily making 5%-10% on this oscillating weeks.

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If sellers don't come in soon, that was one hell of a bear trap. Bitfinex shorts are up 30% in the past few days.....

Seems like less than 24 hours ago, I was wondering if we were going to get back into the $9ks... so yeah... a curious place to be.

Seems like an eternity since that crash on Monday, and then all the trader influencers were starting to look like geniuses calling the top at 9k. Yet here we are again on friday looking like we could be doing another 10k. I feel like someone or some people are taking a piss out of us all, and steadily making 5%-10% on this oscillating weeks.

Surely any of us could figure out systems that are tailored to ourselves that attempt to take advantage of decent sizes of volatility that seems almost inevitable in bitcoin, and surely there are periods of time in which the volatility is greater than others... but ongoing BTC volatility has been happening a lot and there really should be no reason to conclude that it is going to lessen any time into the near future.

Personally, I believe that it would not be very prudent for newbies to be attempting to take advantage of BTC volatility until they have largely established their BTC accumulation base, first, so surely I am not much of an advocate of either BTC  trading or even trying to predict BTC price direction on the short-term; however, once any BTC HODLer establishes a decent base (accumulation level), then there can be a variety of tactics to use a relatively small portion of their BTC holdings to take advantage of BTC volatility.  Of course, more professional traders are going to be able to use a higher portion of their BTC value, but still I am NOT much of an advocate of engaging in those strategies and to be careful about the amount of BTC that anyone is putting at risk for certain kinds of trades.

Regarding your specific point about knocking on the doors of $10k, of course, the last day or so has caused that imminently pending situation to become less imminent, but jeez, like I already mentioned, I was becoming quite skeptical if we were going to get back up into the $9ks, just a couple of days ago, and kind of felt like we could be testing support in the lower $8ks again, and then pretty much within less than 24 hours, we went all the way through the $9ks as if we were going to skip them completely, but then that did end up resulting in too much too soon.... so sure, we are back in the mid $9ks and perhaps wondering about the next short-term BTC price direction.  

Currently, as I type, BTC prices are bouncing around between about $9,400 and $9,550 and short term BTC price direction does seem to be favoring down, a bit, or at least to test support at $9k, but you are not going to get me making any kinds of calls of ascribing certainty to any shorter-term BTC price calls that I attempt to make, so I will leave that to exstasie and some of the others.

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That R1 level came into play:



The bigger picture is still unclear as we head into the weekend. Possible cup-and-handle, but I don't usually put much faith into these patterns on intraday time frames:



Bottom line for now: we can't celebrate a new bull market until $10.5K is broken with authority. Technically it's still all lower highs and lower lows since June 2019.

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Regarding your specific point about knocking on the doors of $10k, of course, the last day or so has caused that imminently pending situation to become less imminent, but jeez, like I already mentioned, I was becoming quite skeptical if we were going to get back up into the $9ks, just a couple of days ago, and kind of felt like we could be testing support in the lower $8ks again, and then pretty much within less than 24 hours, we went all the way through the $9ks as if we were going to skip them completely, but then that did end up resulting in too much too soon.... so sure, we are back in the mid $9ks and perhaps wondering about the next short-term BTC price direction.  s.

Exactly the same here, usually when things that are hyped fail to live up to expectations, like the halving did, then things just fall apart. I'm thinking of all the times people thought price would pick up and did not, it usually led to liquidations as people gave up their orders but weirdly enough this didn't happen in this case. Here we are where we were last Saturday too.

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Regarding your specific point about knocking on the doors of $10k, of course, the last day or so has caused that imminently pending situation to become less imminent, but jeez, like I already mentioned, I was becoming quite skeptical if we were going to get back up into the $9ks, just a couple of days ago, and kind of felt like we could be testing support in the lower $8ks again, and then pretty much within less than 24 hours, we went all the way through the $9ks as if we were going to skip them completely, but then that did end up resulting in too much too soon.... so sure, we are back in the mid $9ks and perhaps wondering about the next short-term BTC price direction.  s.

Exactly the same here, usually when things that are hyped fail to live up to expectations, like the halving did, then things just fall apart. I'm thinking of all the times people thought price would pick up and did not, it usually led to liquidations as people gave up their orders but weirdly enough this didn't happen in this case. Here we are where we were last Saturday too.

Bitcoin price movements can surely test the patience of any HODLer/accumulator, and of course the traders are trying to take advantage of as much of the volatility as they can, and frequently we will find BTC defying the expectations of the squiggly lines on the charts.

Even thinking back to April-June 2019, the BTC price movement from $4,200 to $13,880 caused a lot of HODLers to speculate that BTC was on its way up, and surely in retrospect there can be all kinds of speculation regarding why the continued BTC upwards movement did not happen, why the movement was ahead of its time, or why we are in a purported bear market currently, and whether or NOT any of us buys some of those analytical angles in terms of describing BTC price history (that we can all see in front of us), it is even more difficult to describe while we are in it.  

So, sometimes even the most lame of BTC price predictors can proclaim in retrospect that a 3.5x BTC price appreciation in about 3 months is overheated; however, before such price movement happened, there probably would have been close to zero chart-a-lists who might have anticipated such outrageous BTC price movement, and probably even some traders have learned from experience to prepare for such outrageous scenarios which disproportionately benefits HODLers who did not sell too much too soon and did not end up betting against the corn while in the midst of that movement.  Surely once it reached its top, then it would have become profitable to bet against bitcoin at that point, and could have paid off handsomely in the past almost year (even though my personal strategy does not involve any of the betting against corn, tactics).    

My personal investment system strives NOT to really call short term BTC price directions, but to both attempt to profit from the volatility, let the price come to me, and to anticipate that in the longer term the BTC price is going to continue to be higher.. including that so far in BTC's history, the BTC price has always been higher 4 years after any earlier price point, and there is likely going to be some time in the future in which that framing of BTC price dynamics is NOT going to be true (including wondering whether December 2021 is going to deliver BTC prices that are higher than $19,666 or not?  still to be determined).

Anyhow, so far, BTC price dynamics have sufficiently trended up in order to ensure that so long as at least any BTC accumulator/HODLer has had at least a 4 year time horizon, even if such person has bought at the top of any such BTC price movement, the price is likely to be higher 4 years later.. even while in the middle of that 4 year period, there may be several times in which the BTC buyer/hodler had wished to have had saved a bit more fiat to have been able to buy more BTC at lower prices in the up and down cyclings.

So, for example, if a BTC accumulating person had $2,000 to invest in bitcoin, that person might be a bit upset for a while if s/he had bought .11111BTC at $18k in December 2017, when the same amount of cash could have been used to buy .5 BTC at $4k in December 2018 (1 year later) or even in March 2020 (almost 2.5 years later).

Personally, even though I keep track of my input costs into BTC, when I had been in my most intensive BTC accumulation stages in 2014 and 2015, I had just continued to accumulate BTC on a regular basis and tried NOT to think too much about where the BTC price might go during that period in which I was building my target BTC accumulation levels.  So there are many times that I could look back and second guess my strategy and verify that I could have accumulated way more than twice as much BTC with the same amount of fiat capital that I had employed into BTC, but I still find that second-guessing to be almost useless because if I continue to invest in bitcoin whether it goes up or down, I still have given myself upwards price movement insurance.  In other words, while in the midst of the BTC price movement, we cannot really know how much more time we are going to be spending at x, y, or z price levels or if those BTC buying levels are going to end up disappearing.

I have seen a lot of folks making way BIGGER mistakes than me by waiting or NOT acting, because they are either failing to continue to invest in BTC, and they are waiting for lower BTC prices before taking action.  

So, any of us might consider if we have goals to accumulate a certain quantity of BTC and we have not reached our BTC accumulation goals yet, then it is much better to just act on a regular basis, even if we can only afford $20 per week or some modest amount that we feel comfortable putting into bitcoin, it will still add up over time, and sometimes keeping a bit of extra fiat to buy on dips, can be helpful too, during our BTC accumulation phases.

So another hypothetical, maybe we could afford $20 per week to put into BTC, but we want to prepare ourselves for BTC price dips, too, so instead we decide to inject $15 per week into BTC and to just save the $5 per week in order to be prepared for buying more on dips.  I know that these numbers might sound small, and I am using small numbers to demonstrate that each of us needs to be reasonable in terms of making sure that we are working within our budget, but also that almost anyone can establish some kind of plan that is going to add up to be a lot of BTC in the future as long as the timeline is long enough, and it frequently takes 30 years or more for someone to build their retirement portfolio, but I bet with BTC there are decent chances that the quantity of time could end up being considerably reduced.

So even with $20 per week over the past 7 years, the BTC accumulator with a dollar cost averaging (DCA) approach would have accumulated nearly 14 BTC by now, and even if it might be a lot more difficult to accumulate that quantity of BTC, there is still likely to continue to be decent ongoing BTC price performance in the coming years.

Seems that at some point, we might no longer be able to obtain BTC in the 4 digits realm, and that could happen within weeks or maybe it takes a couple more years before we clear out of the 4 digits realm completely, but the person who DCAs into BTC should not really care so much either way, as long as s/he has a long enough investment time horizon, it will likely continue to work out as long as s/he also figures out safe ways to store the accumulated BTC, too.

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May 17, 2020, 06:02:22 PM
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However we should not also doubt the power of bitcoin neither, sure there are many times when we all imagined price would go up and it didn't and dropped inside and I agree that we can't really got carried by any hype since hype itself doesn't really make the price go up, if you are hyping something you should also put the money in there as well. One thing for sure is the simple fact that even if bitcoin "could" drop, it also could increase at any time as well.

There are many days when nobody expected bitcoin to do anything but it went up 20%+ without any single sign, and that is the kind of thing it could do even right now. Which means yes be careful and know that it could drop very easily, however there is a chance it could skyrocket as well, so be wary about what you are doing in any direction at all times.
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