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[TopTort777]

I think it is a huge hit on Nurmagomedov family - CSAC suspends Bellator champ Usman Nurmagomedov for failed drug test; win over Brent Primus overturned. As I understand, Urmar right now is no longer Bellator lightweight champion. Originally he won a fight and defended title. But on November 11 test results appeared. Now he faces a suspension, a fine and a mark on Nurmagomedov family. Even though could be a mistake during testing, the social media has already started pumping that.

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[Hirose UK]

I think it is a huge hit on Nurmagomedov family - CSAC suspends Bellator champ Usman Nurmagomedov for failed drug test; win over Brent Primus overturned. As I understand, Urmar right now is no longer Bellator lightweight champion. Originally he won a fight and defended title. But on November 11 test results appeared. Now he faces a suspension, a fine and a mark on Nurmagomedov family. Even though could be a mistake during testing, the social media has already started pumping that.

This case has certainly damaged the good reputation of the Nurmagomedov clan, which previously had truly great fighters and even always held champion titles in their respective classes.
I saw in my trusted news broadcast that there was an official response from Usman Nurmagomedov that the failure of the test was due to the presence of substances in the medicine he was taking and that the medicine was prescribed by doctor after he experienced health problems.
Usman mistake was that he did not notify the Athletic Commission or (CSAC) of this problem from the start.

But I haven't seen any clear news about whether he was actually stripped of his lightweight title belt or not because I haven't been able to find any developments.
This is quite serious problem for the Nurmagomedov family and especially for Usman himself.

[TopTort777]

Well, it wasnt mentioned, but he gonna face 6 to 24 month suspension. Plus add some time for a deeper investigation and double testing. I really doubt that Bellator just gonna wait for end of suspension and let them have a rematch, or pause their current tournament because of that.

I always find it strange when a professionals of such level are so irresponsible towards documents, medicine and etc. Usman said that he took medicine but did not warn athletic commission. I always find it strange, when you earn so much, when stakes are so high, and you use some third party doctors and medicine. I am sure that Bellator has their own docs, they can give at least a consultation.

[notblox1]

I think it is a huge hit on Nurmagomedov family - CSAC suspends Bellator champ Usman Nurmagomedov for failed drug test; win over Brent Primus overturned. As I understand, Urmar right now is no longer Bellator lightweight champion. Originally he won a fight and defended title. But on November 11 test results appeared. Now he faces a suspension, a fine and a mark on Nurmagomedov family. Even though could be a mistake during testing, the social media has already started pumping that.

I am not sure if they really stripped him from title and there is some suspicious things about this test.
He was sick and he used medication prescribed by his doctor that have this substance, and I am sure he was not using anything to improve performance because he doesnt need this.
Evidence was provided and only mistake was made because he didnt ask for exemption.
Stupid rules.

[TopTort777]

Stupid rules, but rules are rules. Either you play the game like others, or sit on the bench. Its a professional sport, their work, where health is on scales. It does not make any difference if it is an aspirin or heavy anabolic steroid. Consulate with doctors and your promotion officials.

P.S. I've checked this case in google. They did not take his belt, but he is still on 6months suspension.

[yazher]

Stupid rules, but rules are rules. Either you play the game like others, or sit on the bench. Its a professional sport, their work, where health is on scales. It does not make any difference if it is an aspirin or heavy anabolic steroid. Consulate with doctors and your promotion officials.

What they really need is to update the list of substances that are specific only to use for boosting the body and exclude those medicines that are not from it. This is not an easy matter but they really need to consider doing it this way or when they have a new fighter, they need to make sure that he is clean from any of those substances and give him the list of medicines that he could only take while being signed to them. Because this kind of rule will always waste the fighter's opportunity to have a fight and to reach their goals as soon as possible.

[BChydro]

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This case has certainly damaged the good reputation of the Nurmagomedov clan, which previously had truly great fighters and even always held champion titles in their respective classes.
I saw in my trusted news broadcast that there was an official response from Usman Nurmagomedov that the failure of the test was due to the presence of substances in the medicine he was taking and that the medicine was prescribed by doctor after he experienced health problems.
Usman mistake was that he did not notify the Athletic Commission or (CSAC) of this problem from the start.

But I haven't seen any clear news about whether he was actually stripped of his lightweight title belt or not because I haven't been able to find any developments.
This is quite serious problem for the Nurmagomedov family and especially for Usman himself.

You clearly mentions that Usman failed the drug test because he was taking medication, if that is the situation then how come the reputation of Nurmagomedov or his entire clan get questioned? Bellator is not having issues as they are aware of the medical situation he was undergoing during that period and even the commission is aware of the situation and yet they are giving a 6 month suspension.

[cygan]

the oktagon 49 event has it all!
the #1 in the oktagon heavyweight rankings and #78 in the world, 'Boss' Hatef Moeil, meets the #2 in the rankings and #103 in the world, Lazar Todev - both cagefighters are unbeaten since 2018!
the highly regarded Christian Eckerlin, unbeaten for 6 years, will be fighting a tough fight after a year off. he will face the battle-hardened 'Apollo' Leandro Silva, who even defeated european mma masters finalist Bojan Veličković.
you can see all the other cage fights in the graphic

[MinoRaiola]

the oktagon 49 event has it all!
the #1 in the oktagon heavyweight rankings and #78 in the world, 'Boss' Hatef Moeil, meets the #2 in the rankings and #103 in the world, Lazar Todev - both cagefighters are unbeaten since 2018!
the highly regarded Christian Eckerlin, unbeaten for 6 years, will be fighting a tough fight after a year off. he will face the battle-hardened 'Apollo' Leandro Silva, who even defeated european mma masters finalist Bojan Veličković.
you can see all the other cage fights in the graphic

So Im going to see it live, I be there in 2 days
Apollo vs eckerlin, at least 20,000 people are waiting for this fight in the hall and even more in front of the TV at home. Apollo is not so famous in Germany, but he is a very good fighter and I think he even has an advantage over Eckerlin, who hasnt lost a fight in 6 years. Appolos stats are 27-11-1 (win-loss-draw) and Eckerlin 15-5-0. Both are almost the same age (36-38), they are only 2 years apart. it will be a great evening, and of course I hope that germany wins.

[TopTort777]

Are you going just to watch it live or place some bets also ?

The event seems to be big and expected by many, but I with a quick search I did not manage to find any casino to place a bet on this event. 20k fans, but I have never heard of that promotion before. Even though their roster is international (https://oktagonmma.com/en/rankings/) I havent noticed any familiar name (any retired pride/ufc/bellator/cw guy). This promotion seems to be mostly local.

[notblox1]

Interesting news for coming from PFL MMA who made partnership with one crypto casino Bets.io!
This is strategic collaboration deal mostly for PFL Road to Africa project, but this means that Bets.io will have more betting options for MMA events.
I cant wait to see Francis Ngannou coming back to MMA with all other fighters from Africa.
On main page of Bets you can see PFL banner.


https://www.bets.io/
https://www.pflmma.com/news/betsio-teams-up-with-the-professional-fighters-league-pfl-to-bring-road-to-pfl-africa-to-sports-fans-in-crosspromotional-deal

[MinoRaiola]

Are you going just to watch it live or place some bets also ?

The event seems to be big and expected by many, but I with a quick search I did not manage to find any casino to place a bet on this event. 20k fans, but I have never heard of that promotion before. Even though their roster is international (https://oktagonmma.com/en/rankings/) I havent noticed any familiar name (any retired pride/ufc/bellator/cw guy). This promotion seems to be mostly local.

A good question. We made a few bets between friends because we are there with more people, but we could also place another one online. I made a quick look and saw on 1bet.co that we can bet on the fights in the oktagon there. The odds for Christian Eckerlin vs. Leandro Silva are currently 2.87 to 1.41 and they say that "Apollo" Leandro Silva is the favorite, so small odds... i take a look at 3-4 more fights and maybe place something.

[TopTort777]

Interesting news for coming from PFL MMA who made partnership with one crypto casino Bets.io!
This is strategic collaboration deal mostly for PFL Road to Africa project, but this means that Bets.io will have more betting options for MMA events.
I cant wait to see Francis Ngannou coming back to MMA with all other fighters from Africa.

Good news, but I think the world of MMA might have lost Ngannou because it was claimed that he has now ranked 10 between heavyweight boxers (despite having lost his first fight). Since he complains about low salary in MMA, and he got 10 millions for a fight against Fury, in addition to his wish to have 3 boxing fights (against Fury, AJ and Wilder), then it might took a very loooooong time till we see him in MMA. Few more boxing fights and he would forget about earning a million for MMA fight for ever. Of course PFL seems to be wealthy promotion, but I doubt that they would afford to pay similar salaries him.

[notblox1]

Good news, but I think the world of MMA might have lost Ngannou because it was claimed that he has now ranked 10 between heavyweight boxers (despite having lost his first fight).

No way.
He already signed a contract with PFL and he is very passionate in bringing new PFL show to Africa.
Ngannou is also calling out Jon Jones and every other fighter for cross promotion, but stinky Dana White dont want to talk about this because Ngannou had the balls to do the right thing, now others will follow him.
I heard about him being ranked number 10 after just one fight, so I am sure we are going to see him in boxing also, his PFL contract allows him to do that.

[cygan]

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So Im going to see it live, I be there in 2 days
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lucky you! then i wish you and your buddies a lot of fun and maybe you can publish your visit again in this thread: show us your stadium visit ⚽🏈🏀🏉🎾🏓⚾🏏🏐🏎
i'm also looking forward to the fight when the two cage fighters Christian Eckerlin and Leandro Silva meet in the cage

[notblox1]

Patchy Mix finally broke great record run of wins from Sergio Pettis, he is the new champion of Bantamweight division, and his MMA record is impressive 19 wins and only 1 loss.
This is something worth watching guys, all finishes from Bellator 301 event, and it is less than ten minute long video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7MmHjcNUw4

[YuginKadoya]

I think it is a huge hit on Nurmagomedov family - CSAC suspends Bellator champ Usman Nurmagomedov for failed drug test; win over Brent Primus overturned. As I understand, Urmar right now is no longer Bellator lightweight champion. Originally he won a fight and defended title. But on November 11 test results appeared. Now he faces a suspension, a fine and a mark on Nurmagomedov family. Even though could be a mistake during testing, the social media has already started pumping that.

It was really a shame for the Nurmagomedov clan and for the reputation of Usman and right now I really don't know if he's ever going to be back again as the Bellator 301 could be the last Event for Bellator so yeah this could be a potential last time we could see Usman Nurmagomedov and if a fighting company would get him because of this report for sure and if the Nurmagomedov clan would be OK with it, sadly I really want to see him again fight maybe in the UFC, PFL in which wherever fighting company he could be accepted in,

Well, it wasnt mentioned, but he gonna face 6 to 24 month suspension. Plus add some time for a deeper investigation and double testing. I really doubt that Bellator just gonna wait for end of suspension and let them have a rematch, or pause their current tournament because of that.

I always find it strange when a professionals of such level are so irresponsible towards documents, medicine and etc. Usman said that he took medicine but did not warn athletic commission. I always find it strange, when you earn so much, when stakes are so high, and you use some third party doctors and medicine. I am sure that Bellator has their own docs, they can give at least a consultation.

That Suspension could be forever as the last event for Bellator could be the Bellator 301 event, as we can see Usman Nurmagomedov again in another sports fighting company if they can accept him as a fighter for sure but right now it is very slim for him to have a reputable family for him to be positive in drugs, but anyway let's just wait for further news because right now I want to see what will happen to Bellator and its fighters and if what may happen to Usman Nurmagomedov,

Patchy Mix finally broke great record run of wins from Sergio Pettis, he is the new champion of Bantamweight division, and his MMA record is impressive 19 wins and only 1 loss.
This is something worth watching guys, all finishes from Bellator 301 event, and it is less than ten minute long video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7MmHjcNUw4

Actually, most fights in this card are really juicy, but the Bellator 301: Amosov vs. Jackson could be a potential last event for the Bellator so it is really a bummer, as Patchy Mix defeated Sergio Pettis and now become a champion but his reign didn't last long as this could be a potential last for the fighting sports Bellator, and Jason Jackson finally won against Yaroslav Amosov with a great performance for him to get a KO/TKO win,

[owengtam09]

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Now that is sad news if that is Bellator's last event, and for sure it was a sad thing, but right now because we will not see a UFC event this week but here is a PFL event for us to enjoy

PFL 10: 2023 PFL World Championship

DATE: Friday 11.24.2023
TIME: 05:00 PM ET
PROMOTION: Professional Fighters League
VENUE: The Anthem
LOCATION: Washington, D.C.



MAIN EVENT
Clay Collard VS Olivier Aubin-Mercier

CO-MAIN EVENT
Renan Ferreira VS Denis Goltsov

MAIN CARD
Larissa Pacheco VS Marina Mokhnatkina
Magomed Magomedkerimov VS Sadibou Sy
Impa Kasanganay VS Josh Silveira
Kayla Harrison VS Aspen Ladd
Ray Cooper III VS Derek Brunson

PRELIMINARY CARD
Jesus Pinedo VS Gabriel Alves Braga
Biaggio Ali Walsh VS Joel Galarza Lopez
Bubba Jenkins VS Chris Wade
Khai Wu VS Phil Caracappa
Jesse Stirn VS Josh Blyden

The Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/104297-pfl-10-2023-championships

[MinoRaiola]

i'm also looking forward to the fight when the two cage fighters Christian Eckerlin and Leandro Silva meet in the cage

The fight went over 3 rounds and the German lost it. He didnt have enough good punches, but he was better on the ground. Unfortunately a few Germans lost that day. I found the decision in the heavyweight title fight a bit strange. The German Hatef Moeil won on points after 5 rounds against Lazar Todev. But the spectators and Todev saw it differently, even the interview directly in the ring was "everyone here in the arena knows who won, it is not Moeil" and from my point of view, he is right. He has landed much better punches, but germany must also win at home. That evening there were 4 KOs in round 1 and still 6 hours of entertainment.

[YuginKadoya]

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For me, this is now a great event and because we don't have any UFC events this week it will do for sure now here is my bet and prediction for the PFL 10: 2023 PFL World Championship

Clay Collard VS Olivier Aubin-Mercier

The stake odds for this fight are 2.95 for Collard and 1.35 for Aubin-Mercier, for this fight Clay Jordan Collard got 24 wins, 10 losses, 0 draws, and 1 no contest, he got 3 consecutive wins and a former boxer turned MMA, while Aubin-Mercier was once in the UFC and now got 20 wins 5 loses and 0 draws, he now got 9 consecutive wins after he lost 3 consecutive in the UFC he then shifted into the PFL, Clay Collard is a great boxer for sure his accuracy in the boxing was really that great so Aubin will need to be careful with the open shots, for this fight Collard can not underestimate Aubin Mercier as this is a different ring than with Boxing and for sure Aubin Mercier is going with a fighter that has ground game for sure Olivier Mercier is the weakness on the ground for Collard, so my pick is Olivier Aubin Mercier,

Renan Ferreira VS Denis Goltsov

The stake odds for this fight are 2.75 for Ferreira and 1.40 for Goltsov, both PFL fighters have a great stand-up for sure, but for this fight, Ferreira also has good submission while Denis Goltsov is a favorite to win, now Renan Ferreira got 11 wins 3 losses 0 draw and 3 No Contest, for his opponent has 32 wins, 7 losses, and 0 No Contest, for this fight I think experience is needed here for sure and so Denis Goltsov is my pick for this fight,

Magomed Magomedkerimov VS Sadibou Sy

The stake odds for this fight are 1.59 for Magomedkerimov and 2.22 for Sy, This fight will be great as Magomed Magomedkerimov has great wrestling but his striking is no pushover for sure it could hurt even Magomed, Magomed Magomedkerimov is better in the standings, but Sadibou Sy has the power with his striking but for me, this is an entertaining fight as both is very durable but Magomed Magomedkerimov has the upper hand when it comes to wrestling he is the best in this division, so for sure Sadiboue Sy has a weakness for wrestlers, and would rather fight his opponent with the stand-up