MMA talk - PFL, Bellator, KSW, ONE...

[owengtam09]

I would still insist on getting PS3 or PS4 for better experience. PS2 UFC games are primitive. You wont get what you expect to get and get disappointed quickly. Before doing any moves - look for ps2 and ps4 UFC games gameplay. Maybe it will turn, that the controls or game entrance gap is to complicated for you.

You know what, I checked the prices of used PS3 and PS4 and I cant believe how cheap they are, they are full package with controllers and everything in good condition.
Maybe I am not playing games like before but this is simple fix for playing with best possible graphics and without messing with emulators.
It would be cool that PFL make some competition and create good PC and console MMA game, Francis Ngannou would be great face to promote it.

For me, it is good to have those consoles for the best experience there is but I really don't want to spend something on those Consoles that could be not up to date already if you can play it with an emulator for free, but yeah online games right now you can buy them in steam or epic games, but for sure If there are free games I think I will just stick on just getting free games for sure, but for an epic experience if you have the money to buy the consoles then go for it, this is just my opinion on things, but a PC is great enough if that game can be played on a PC,

After seeing what he can do Johan Ghazali really has a great start starting young is quite pretty much going great for him, and getting young into the sports of Muay Thai but for sure he can learn various martial arts like Kickboxing and if he is well-establish with his kick boxing maybe just like Alex Pereira can go into the world of MMA and learn wrestling from there on, I think Alex Pereira had a great foundation and that is with his kick boxing foundation his striking was very natural so for sure all he needs to do now is train some wrestling and grappling to enhanced his ground game,

After seeing the kid Johan Ghazali in action I was really amazed at his dedication to his study and training, even though he is now a professional fighter he is still not stopping with his studies, and sure he is doing just fine, but looks at him in school uniform you will never notice him be a professional fighter and this goes to show with other saying that do not judge the book by its cover and for sure that sentence is true with Johan Ghazali for sure he is a teen that will come a long way and just like you I also want him to try MMA if he gets bored with Muay Thai that is,

P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L-coAacvfk check out Khabibs accent in UFC5 lol

What's with that accent it is not like Khabib at all, and it looks weird seeing Khabib Nurmagomedov with that kind of accent sure it just no feel right anyway after seeing this I come across with a deep voice and straight different accent for Paddy Pimblett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0TwSepvReo

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[YuginKadoya]

Of course I did and still do. I think it is noticeable by posts about situation with playstation I've left I was just curious why you wanted to play it on PC. PC and fighting games were never together, its console territory That is why I thought that you are not much of a gamer or dont play games at all. Old UFC games on ps2 era and current UFC game are two different games. It is like pac man where you only run, and GTA5 where you can do lots of things Dont recommend you to try something old, its not worth it. PC and old UFC game gonna spoil your experience

P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L-coAacvfk check out Khabibs accent in UFC5 lol

For sure Fighting games and PC will never get along well but sure that is why some controllers can be used and connected to your PC a USB one could be great, but yeah fighting games are originally for consoles but for sure a good controller is enough to play a fighting game that you like, not just fighting games but games that are original can be played in console, you can surely emulate a controller aswell,

that UFC games didn't actually get the voice and accent of Khabib Nurmagomedov which is weird in my opinion,

What's with that accent it is not like Khabib at all, and it looks weird seeing Khabib Nurmagomedov with that kind of accent sure it just no feel right anyway after seeing this I come across with a deep voice and straight different accent for Paddy Pimblett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0TwSepvReo

Never expected to see and hear Paddy Pimblett in a different voice and accent for it is really weird for me as this is something unique but sure they can not get all the fighter's voice and put it all in the game for sure it will be a different payment if you get those voices and you originally get it on the fighters,


Updated on the Superlek Kiatmoo9 vs. Elias Mahmoudi fight it was Canceled and Rebooked by Superlek so that fight will be ONE Fight Night 18: Gasanov vs. Taek, I was really excited that I will be seeing Superlek Kiatmoo9 fight again but because it was rebooked then I need to wait and see the new schedule of the event,

[Hirose UK]

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Never imagine that he is a high school student by day but a USD 100k contract by night sure this kid is built differently and even if he loses to 1 of his fights I think that just brings him into a higher grounds as he has started in the Muay Thai fighting just in his young age for sure he will be a great and well-known person 1 day, but right now he already have a name for himself, the name Johan Ghazali is now well-known in the ONE Championship community for sure,

Of course I don't think he still high school kid just learning martial arts, but he teenager who has become good enough fighter that ONE Championship is really interested and decided to have contract with him.
Johan Ghazali has full support from his family and he has sufficient material support to be able to develop his talents by practicing more martial arts so that he can achieve much greater achievements in the world class.
I sure Johan Ghazali will never be satisfied with the accomplishments of just fighting in ONE Championship but he definitely wants more popular fights.
There is still plenty of time for him to develop in the future.

I wonder what triggered you to try playing video games and UFC in particular.

You never played games in your life? 
I saw a trailer and review for new EA Sports UFC 5 game for PlayStation 5, and it looked fantastic.
I always loved this type of games since I was a kid but they are making it look very realistic in last few years.

It seems quite interesting because we can play using the fighter characters we like, but the last PlayStation game about fighting I remember was WWE SmackDown.
This was done when I was still teenager and now the PlayStation game has developed enough to have the EA Sports UFC 5 game.
This will remind I of playing when I were teenager, it quite silly but it really interesting.

[YuginKadoya]

It seems quite interesting because we can play using the fighter characters we like, but the last PlayStation game about fighting I remember was WWE SmackDown.
This was done when I was still teenager and now the PlayStation game has developed enough to have the EA Sports UFC 5 game.
This will remind I of playing when I were teenager, it quite silly but it really interesting.

I remember that game it was really an entertaining game for sure where you could play as your favorite WWE character and the new version of the game had some twist where you could go outside the Ring and the stadium and into the parking lot where you could get items and fight out there that was really great if you can play it in freestyle mode, where you can be allowed and there will be no ring count mode if two fighters were outside the ring,

the first ksw (#90) event of this year starts in the polish capital warsaw on january 20th.
there will again be 9 cage fights with fighters from 9 nations. you can see who will fight who in the cage in the graphic below

Here are Cygan's posts on the KSW 90 event this coming January 20, along with UFC 297, where Śmiełowski was Injured so he needs to pull out of the event and he will be ex-change for Isai Ramos for this event, now the whole KSW 90 Event now are

KSW 90

MAIN EVENT
Arkadiusz Wrzosek VS Ivan Vitasović

CO-MAIN EVENT
Bartosz Fabiński VS Laïd Zerhouni

MAIN CARD
Ewelina Woźniak VS Aleksandra Toncheva
Damian Stasiak VS Adam Soldaev
Islam Djabrailov VS Alfan Rocher-Labes
Werlleson Martins VS Oleksii Polischuck
Isai Ramos VS Ramzan Jembiev

PRELIMINARY CARD
Marek Samociuk VS Oļegs Jemeļjanovs
Gino van Steenis VS Hugo Deux
Szymon Karolczyk VS Artur Krawczyk

Tapology Link: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/106205-ksw-90

[notblox1]

PFL just announced new big event coming in February and this is the first time all BFL Champions will face Bellator Champions!
Yoel Romero is coming back against Thiago Santos in this fight of the veterans, Romero is 46 and Santos 40 years old.
This event is happening in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, but one guy we are missing here is Francis Ngannou who is preparing for another boxing fight.


https://pflmma.com/news/pfl-champions-vs-bellator-champions

[TopTort777]

You know who is missing also on such a large tournament? Ante Delija. Havent heard about this guy for a while. And he was considered to be Ngannou counter in PFL. During years 2021-2022 were Delija was more busy, but got only 1 fight in 2023.

Since this is a cross promotion event, the winner walks away with two belts? Or next contender have to wait for another cross promotion event? Or move to other promotion?

notblox1, how is your pc/console experience going so far ?

[Hirose UK]

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I remember that game it was really an entertaining game for sure where you could play as your favorite WWE character and the new version of the game had some twist where you could go outside the Ring and the stadium and into the parking lot where you could get items and fight out there that was really great if you can play it in freestyle mode, where you can be allowed and there will be no ring count mode if two fighters were outside the ring,

Several teenagers here in the area where I live apparently already know and they are quite fond of playing the EA Sports UFC 5 game.
They said that the features of this game were much better than some other old school games, they even got game that was really like live broadcast because of the various advantages that could get.

There was fight held by ONE Championship with the ONE Atomweight MMA World Champion title event, Stamp Fairtex defended her first title against Zamboanga.
This is quite an interesting fight between female fighters which will take place on March 1 at ONE 166 Qatar.
I think I want to follow developments and watch this fight.

https://twitter.com/ONEChampionship/status/1747226801787859023?t=HfM85urp6XYQAze1gLj9mA&s=19

[notblox1]

You know who is missing also on such a large tournament? Ante Delija. Havent heard about this guy for a while. And he was considered to be Ngannou counter in PFL. During years 2021-2022 were Delija was more busy, but got only 1 fight in 2023.

Yes that is true, maybe they are saving him to face Francis Ngannou in his first MMA fight after divorce from UFC and excursion to boxing world.
 

Since this is a cross promotion event, the winner walks away with two belts? Or next contender have to wait for another cross promotion event? Or move to other promotion?

I think they will have one unified belt, same way like they are doing in boxing.
PFL owns both companies now so they can do whatever they want

how is your pc/console experience going so far ?

No progress and no time for gaming

[YuginKadoya]

PFL just announced new big event coming in February and this is the first time all BFL Champions will face Bellator Champions!
Yoel Romero is coming back against Thiago Santos in this fight of the veterans, Romero is 46 and Santos 40 years old.
This event is happening in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, but one guy we are missing here is Francis Ngannou who is preparing for another boxing fight.

This is an interesting event looking at the fighters it is one juicy event that the PFL and Bellator are cooking here, and the fights that I am interested in are Renan Ferreira VS Ryan Bader, Magomed Magomedkerimov VS Jason Jackson, Jesus Pinedo VS Patricio Pitbull, Bruno Cappelozza VS Vadim Nemkov, Thiago Santos VS Yoel Romero and lastly Clay Collard VS AJ McKee are the fights that I think looks interesting, for sure I will make my bet on those fights,

You know who is missing also on such a large tournament? Ante Delija. Havent heard about this guy for a while. And he was considered to be Ngannou counter in PFL. During years 2021-2022 were Delija was more busy, but got only 1 fight in 2023.

Since this is a cross promotion event, the winner walks away with two belts? Or next contender have to wait for another cross promotion event? Or move to other promotion?

notblox1, how is your pc/console experience going so far ?

There is no update on him everywhere, after his fight against Maurice Greene on June 13, 2023, he was gone or there is no update on him what so ever, however, Francis Ngannou is doing great with his boxing career, for sure if he would be here I think he is already been scheduled against Francis Ngannou, the fight was just abruptly canceled for some reason,

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Several teenagers here in the area where I live apparently already know and they are quite fond of playing the EA Sports UFC 5 game.
They said that the features of this game were much better than some other old school games, they even got game that was really like live broadcast because of the various advantages that could get.

Well, that is good for them, if they are already playing EA sports for UFC 5 which has great graphics than the old WWE games, but I think the WWE games are still updating and continuing up to now, and the latest right now was the WWE 2K23 which you can buy in Steam, for sure it got great graphics to offer, and what I like about this are the multiplayer mode that they have,

[TopTort777]

You know who is missing also on such a large tournament? Ante Delija. Havent heard about this guy for a while. And he was considered to be Ngannou counter in PFL. During years 2021-2022 were Delija was more busy, but got only 1 fight in 2023.

Yes that is true, maybe they are saving him to face Francis Ngannou in his first MMA fight after divorce from UFC and excursion to boxing world.
 

Since this is a cross promotion event, the winner walks away with two belts? Or next contender have to wait for another cross promotion event? Or move to other promotion?

I think they will have one unified belt, same way like they are doing in boxing.
PFL owns both companies now so they can do whatever they want

Forgot that they are now one and the same face. This makes sense now why they have cross promotion fights. But instantly another question appears in my head How hard it is to stick to specific rules when you are in a fight? Never thought that in PFL all kind of elbow strikes are prohibited, yet Bellator allow them. Shouldt they unify rules ? That rules looks worth discussing in general. Maybe this is only because elbow strikes make huge cuts. Other strike can open skin also, but elbow cut is deeper. I think it might be because of their season system, that huge deep cuts heal for long, but fighters need to be ready to fight every, dont know, 3 months.

[notblox1]

Forgot that they are now one and the same face. This makes sense now why they have cross promotion fights. But instantly another question appears in my head How hard it is to stick to specific rules when you are in a fight? Never thought that in PFL all kind of elbow strikes are prohibited, yet Bellator allow them. Shouldt they unify rules ? That rules looks worth discussing in general. Maybe this is only because elbow strikes make huge cuts. Other strike can open skin also, but elbow cut is deeper. I think it might be because of their season system, that huge deep cuts heal for long, but fighters need to be ready to fight every, dont know, 3 months.

I dont think elbows are not allowed in PFL, they have almost the same MMA rules like Bellator, UFC and others.
Only way for different rules to exist is if there are kickboxing fights and special mixed rules, but I mostly saw fights like this only in ONE Championship.
Elbows and knees are allowed not only in MMA but in Muay Tha also, but there is no fighting on ground.

[TopTort777]

Forgot that they are now one and the same face. This makes sense now why they have cross promotion fights. But instantly another question appears in my head How hard it is to stick to specific rules when you are in a fight? Never thought that in PFL all kind of elbow strikes are prohibited, yet Bellator allow them. Shouldt they unify rules ? That rules looks worth discussing in general. Maybe this is only because elbow strikes make huge cuts. Other strike can open skin also, but elbow cut is deeper. I think it might be because of their season system, that huge deep cuts heal for long, but fighters need to be ready to fight every, dont know, 3 months.

I dont think elbows are not allowed in PFL, they have almost the same MMA rules like Bellator, UFC and others.
Only way for different rules to exist is if there are kickboxing fights and special mixed rules, but I mostly saw fights like this only in ONE Championship.
Elbows and knees are allowed not only in MMA but in Muay Tha also, but there is no fighting on ground.

The PFL's matches are held inside a 10-sided mixed martial arts cage known as the SmartCage, and adhere to the unified rules of mixed martial arts, with the exception that the PFL prohibits all elbow strikes

Second clause on wiki. Turns out that the cage is different also. Before reading that, never thought there were really a difference. While it is probably nothing that the cage is different, but no elbow seems odd. Elbows are lethal, but they are for close range only. So no elbow is a big question for me.

P.S. While searching for answer, found that UFC octagon cage has two sized. 25ft for events in UFC Apex, and 30ft in all other events.

[tokeweed]

PFL just announced new big event coming in February and this is the first time all BFL Champions will face Bellator Champions!
Yoel Romero is coming back against Thiago Santos in this fight of the veterans, Romero is 46 and Santos 40 years old.
This event is happening in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, but one guy we are missing here is Francis Ngannou who is preparing for another boxing fight.


https://pflmma.com/news/pfl-champions-vs-bellator-champions

Whoa...  Really?!?  I think that's prolly the best roster I've ever seen outside of the UFC that could compete even with the best rosters in any UFC PPV event.  I hope we'll see more events like it from the PFL - Bellator.  It's good to have some competition.  It just makes MMA better overall.  And that also means a bigger and more diverse betting market.

Damn I can't wait to see what the lines on these match ups are like.  

And those guys at the top wouldn't want no smoke from Ngannou.  Lolol.  Would've been nice to see him up there tho.

[Hirose UK]

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Several teenagers here in the area where I live apparently already know and they are quite fond of playing the EA Sports UFC 5 game.
They said that the features of this game were much better than some other old school games, they even got game that was really like live broadcast because of the various advantages that could get.

Well, that is good for them, if they are already playing EA sports for UFC 5 which has great graphics than the old WWE games, but I think the WWE games are still updating and continuing up to now, and the latest right now was the WWE 2K23 which you can buy in Steam, for sure it got great graphics to offer, and what I like about this are the multiplayer mode that they have,

Introducing more and more interesting games, but it all too late to try because if think about it and take into account busy schedule, won't be able to have time to try playing with the various updates available, for those who are still teenagers who are still school children, may still have lot of time.
Just imagine us from morning to evening working on running business or something else and after that starting activities in this forum, but when we don't have time we prefer to visit gambling sites and make some bets or games that we like.
From here it is clear that it is very difficult to have time to play with PlayStation and we have family so we would prefer to do some activities that might be more useful or more likely to generate some money, although gambling does not guarantee making money but we can gain some experience.
So far betting on MMA or UFC has become favorite for most gamblers and of course when betting they will also watch the fight, even if only through television broadcasts or streaming.

[notblox1]

The PFL's matches are held inside a 10-sided mixed martial arts cage known as the SmartCage, and adhere to the unified rules of mixed martial arts, with the exception that the PFL prohibits all elbow strikes

Good find!
I really didnt know about that, and I am not sure what to say about this, it would mean that elbow strike could result in negative points in fight or no contest.
It is better for fighters as they will avoid serious injuries, but I have seen use of elbows in UFC a lot and it was very effective in some cases.
Octagon cage shape is not such a big problem for me, and I knew about different size of UFC cages.
There are also different rules based on locations, states and countries.

[cygan]

this weekend is finally here and the first oktagon mma tournament of 2024 brings a heated battle between europe's best bantamweights, Jonas Mågård (denmark) vs. Jack Cartwright (england), as well as the unstoppable czech Matej 'money' Peňáz looking to fight his way past england's Matthew Bonner to get to the title fight. a total of 20 fighters from 10 different countries face each other
you can see all the other cage fights in the graphic

[TopTort777]

It is better for fighters as they will avoid serious injuries, but I have seen use of elbows in UFC a lot and it was very effective in some cases.

I think elbows are prohibited in kickboxing and exotic combat arts like Wing Chun. Even though elbows are lethal, they are perfect for clinches. Without elbows, fighting near fence would turn into hugging. I remember Pride era with stomps, soccer kicks. We had Vale Tudo, where strikes with head were allowed. And it was OK. Now people are worried about elbows. Cuts might be deep, elbow can make dents in skull bones. But if a person has soft bones, forbidding elbows wont help. One low kick check and hello crutches. Plus there is always a ref to save from major injury.

[notblox1]

Things are starting to get interesting as PFL vs Bellator Champions event is approaching, and today there was Press Conference with Faceoffs.
You can see all the fighters face to face but it was funny to see how tall is Renan Ferreira compared to Ryan Bader
He is much heavier, taller, younger and he has big reach advantage for this fight, so Bader is going to have problems to win.
My early bet is on Ferreira to win.

Full Press Conference with Faceoffs video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lUoPjqSeYY

[tokeweed]

^  Rofl yeah...  The guy is 6 inches taller and has an 11 inch reach advantage.  And by heavyweight standards, he is young at 34.  Bader is getting up there at 40.  :/

I wonder what the lines are when they come up.  If Ferreira is around 1.60 - 1.70, that's def value as he could look like a 1.30 favorite.  

Edit:  Good to have some ONE FC action since there's no UFC this weekend.  I don't really know much about these guys but looking forward in watching them throw leather.  Hope some book has this tho.

Date:  Saturday, Jan 28
Main Card (PPV):  5:00am EST
Preliminary Card (YT):  3:00am ET
Venue:  Ariake Arena, Tokyo, Japan
Live Streams:  



Main Card (PPV)
Superlek Kiatmuu9 vs Takeru Segawa   
Kade Ruotolo vs Tommy Langaker   
Shinya Aoki vs Sage Northcutt            
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs Nieky Holzken      
Sitthichai Sitsongpeenong vs Marat Grigorian            
Garry Tonon vs Martin Nguyen   
Itsuki Hirata vs Ayaka Miura   

Preliminary Card (YT)
Danny Kingad vs Yuya Wakamatsu
Rade Opacic vs Iraj Azizpour            
Bokang Masunyane vs Keito Yamakita            
Hiroba Minowa vs Gustavo Balart

[YuginKadoya]

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Introducing more and more interesting games, but it all too late to try because if think about it and take into account busy schedule, won't be able to have time to try playing with the various updates available, for those who are still teenagers who are still school children, may still have lot of time.
Just imagine us from morning to evening working on running business or something else and after that starting activities in this forum, but when we don't have time we prefer to visit gambling sites and make some bets or games that we like.
From here it is clear that it is very difficult to have time to play with PlayStation and we have family so we would prefer to do some activities that might be more useful or more likely to generate some money, although gambling does not guarantee making money but we can gain some experience.
So far betting on MMA or UFC has become favorite for most gamblers and of course when betting they will also watch the fight, even if only through television broadcasts or streaming.

I totally understand where you're coming from. With busy schedules and responsibilities, finding time for leisure activities like playing PlayStation can be a challenge. It's especially true for those managing businesses or other commitments. It seems like for many, engaging in activities like betting on MMA or UFC serves as a form of entertainment and even a chance to gain some experience. Balancing time between responsibilities and leisure can indeed be tricky. Here's to finding a good balance and enjoying the activities that bring both joy and fulfillment.

Things are starting to get interesting as PFL vs Bellator Champions event is approaching, and today there was Press Conference with Faceoffs.
You can see all the fighters face to face but it was funny to see how tall is Renan Ferreira compared to Ryan Bader
He is much heavier, taller, younger and he has big reach advantage for this fight, so Bader is going to have problems to win.
My early bet is on Ferreira to win.

Full Press Conference with Faceoffs video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lUoPjqSeYY

For sure that event will be a little blast Bellator VS PFL is something fans are anticipating and I think the Bellator side is more tempting to make some bets, Renan Ferreira sure looks large but because of the experience of Ryan Bader it could be great anticipation to make some bet on that but I am still a reserve in who I want to pick, Johnny Eblen for me is more tempting than Impa Kasanganay, Patricio Pitbull is a sure bet for me Vadim Nemkov, is great Yoel Romero is more menacing than Thiago Santos, and AJ McKee Jr. rather than going with Clay Collard, so good luck to us, on that match-ups.