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December 10, 2019, 10:37:03 PM
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Crypto market is being manipulated from the very beginning, sudden drops and raises are made from huge whales. They are earning so much money, while unexperienced investors are losing their money while trying to catch the train.

It has always been like this from the very beginning. And it can't be help since manipulation thrives on low liquidity or low trading volume. It is very easy to push the price up when it's cheap to do it. But when there's more trading volume, it will be costly to do.

It's wrong. The manipulation even happen with the major exchange sites. you can take binance as the example and how so many things become really absurd just like matic's big crash on binance.
Low liquidity just make the big gap between the buy order book and sell order book. there is nothing to feel worry about that because people have already known what he has already bought.
The different situation when comes to the major exchange site that manipulated the hopes that has already made by the traders and users.
The major exchange site is too risky compared with the small exchange site which was having a low liquidity. it may less insider job compared with major exchange site.

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December 10, 2019, 11:59:04 PM
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Whales control the crypto market, no matter how many regulators intervene in their job. They have one job and that is the reason why 90% of the crypto traders are losers. The top 1 percent is the whales with more than 10000 BTC in their wallets.

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December 11, 2019, 04:20:04 AM
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Whales control the crypto market, no matter how many regulators intervene in their job. They have one job and that is the reason why 90% of the crypto traders are losers. The top 1 percent is the whales with more than 10000 BTC in their wallets.
Sounds true, the whales are in control of the market, they hold the big portion and the government can't determine the identity of the whales or let them comply with the rules to prevent from manipulation, whales will always be whales, they will continue what they got used to, and it's us who should adjust with them.

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December 11, 2019, 04:44:07 AM
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Whales control the crypto market, no matter how many regulators intervene in their job. They have one job and that is the reason why 90% of the crypto traders are losers. The top 1 percent is the whales with more than 10000 BTC in their wallets.
Sounds true, the whales are in control of the market, they hold the big portion and the government can't determine the identity of the whales or let them comply with the rules to prevent from manipulation, whales will always be whales, they will continue what they got used to, and it's us who should adjust with them.
That's the thing inside this market, we do have company who knows how to play without any mistakes and gaining from this industry. Whales will keep
sucking this market in any manner that they see opportunities. We do need to keep working enhancing our knowledge to work with them and avoid doing things against them or else we will just keep seeing our investment to lose away from our grasp.

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December 11, 2019, 01:37:26 PM
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I think the cryptocurrency market is not spared from manipulation because the space created is very free, seeing a market that moves stably there may be technical errors or regulatory developments to improve all markets again, but I don't take anything negative in seeing the market now it's just a decent graphic display in crypto
to know market manipulation requires a strong analysis, but from my view so far the market still looks normal because it does not look like a high pump then dumps. because I believe that if the market moves like that then there is manipulation in it

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December 11, 2019, 02:23:41 PM
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I think the cryptocurrency market is not spared from manipulation because the space created is very free, seeing a market that moves stably there may be technical errors or regulatory developments to improve all markets again, but I don't take anything negative in seeing the market now it's just a decent graphic display in crypto
to know market manipulation requires a strong analysis, but from my view so far the market still looks normal because it does not look like a high pump then dumps. because I believe that if the market moves like that then there is manipulation in it
You're so this right but to know if the market is been manipulated definitely don't need a strong analysis because we can actually check the whale's movement through whales alert and what I'm seeing is a slightly stable market which shows that the market is not manipulated but replicate the previous market situation.

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December 11, 2019, 03:05:48 PM
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I think the cryptocurrency market is not spared from manipulation because the space created is very free, seeing a market that moves stably there may be technical errors or regulatory developments to improve all markets again, but I don't take anything negative in seeing the market now it's just a decent graphic display in crypto
to know market manipulation requires a strong analysis, but from my view so far the market still looks normal because it does not look like a high pump then dumps. because I believe that if the market moves like that then there is manipulation in it
You're so this right but to know if the market is been manipulated definitely don't need a strong analysis because we can actually check the whale's movement through whales alert and what I'm seeing is a slightly stable market which shows that the market is not manipulated but replicate the previous market situation.
It doesnt really require too much analysis when it regards on detecting manipulation.Hence, whales wont really do such thing for constant or regular basis.
Huge spikes on prices either dump or pump does signify manipulation which i do say its present neither on forex/stocks or here on crypto yet there would always
be big players who do play into these fields.As long cash is flowing there would always to those who are financially capable that would really took advantage of their capacity.,

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December 11, 2019, 04:02:25 PM
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I think the cryptocurrency market is not spared from manipulation because the space created is very free, seeing a market that moves stably there may be technical errors or regulatory developments to improve all markets again, but I don't take anything negative in seeing the market now it's just a decent graphic display in crypto
to know market manipulation requires a strong analysis, but from my view so far the market still looks normal because it does not look like a high pump then dumps. because I believe that if the market moves like that then there is manipulation in it
You're so this right but to know if the market is been manipulated definitely don't need a strong analysis because we can actually check the whale's movement through whales alert and what I'm seeing is a slightly stable market which shows that the market is not manipulated but replicate the previous market situation.
You mistake the market cycles and manipulation of the crypto whales. The seasonal market trend is completely different than the manipulated crypto order books, the previous market situation will appear right after the bull market. And the bull market will leave its place for the bear market. If we check the market simulation, everything will be clear for us. Non-written rules dominate in the crypto market, the legal regulative steps don't affect these whales.


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December 11, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
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You mistake the market cycles and manipulation of the crypto whales. The seasonal market trend is completely different than the manipulated crypto order books, the previous market situation will appear right after the bull market. And the bull market will leave its place for the bear market. If we check the market simulation, everything will be clear for us. Non-written rules dominate in the crypto market, the legal regulative steps don't affect these whales.
either that works is whale manipulation or indeed this is the way the crypto market works. because from the beginning I was familiar with the crypto market, the movement up and down quickly and suddenly had happened. and in this situation, I am no longer surprised when there is a movement that is thought to be a manipulation by the pope. but as far as I know to be able to carry out large-scale market movements of course if it is done by the pope they will use very much money. and I prefer to think about the phenomenon of the crypto market like that is normal.









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December 13, 2019, 06:02:20 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.

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December 13, 2019, 06:11:23 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.

if that is true that people buy at low prices then are still buying now ? but what do you think the price is stable  ? if they buy the price should start moving upwards  or fluctuate atleast   .

cryptos are known to be volatile type of coins but if they became stable then there is already something wrong them , they are already being maniputalted  but manipulation are always been there because cryptos were also known to be a manipulative type of currencies  .
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December 13, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.
The current stable result was totally disappoint the many investors so we are all waiting for next bull run. Last one month was really hard to survive in trading, but we know it will make good profit on next year. The market manipulation is happening on all the time, But each months crypto will raise and fall so next month we see some further growing on crypto market.

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December 13, 2019, 11:39:09 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.

if that is true that people buy at low prices then are still buying now ? but what do you think the price is stable  ? if they buy the price should start moving upwards  or fluctuate atleast   .

cryptos are known to be volatile type of coins but if they became stable then there is already something wrong them , they are already being maniputalted  but manipulation are always been there because cryptos were also known to be a manipulative type of currencies  .
The market is under manipulative forever, the level of manipulation as well as the impact out of the manipulation might be experienced low than other times. As said cryptos without the feature of volatility can't be considered cryptocurrency. This means there is something wrong or some whales trying to create some panic moments to profit out of the same.

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December 14, 2019, 01:30:59 AM
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Crypto market is being manipulated from the very beginning, sudden drops and raises are made from huge whales. They are earning so much money, while unexperienced investors are losing their money while trying to catch the train.
I am not so sure that the bitcoin whales are doing all of this to try to get fiat in return, to me this seems like a nice bonus for them but what they are really after is to get even more bitcoin in return for their manipulations, and for what I can see it seems that they are getting what they want, as time passes they are getting bigger and bigger but I do not know if they don't really understand that if they are the only ones that are holding bitcoin then their coins becomes useless because they cannot exchange those coins with anyone.
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December 15, 2019, 02:54:51 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.
Stable for what? have you seen what already happened with matic coin? it was getting manipulated by the team and exchange site. crypto will always be a manipulative market and that is really possible to happen anytime. Cheap price becomes a bullshit reason when you are seeing an instant dump from the dev

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December 15, 2019, 06:43:13 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.
Stable for what? have you seen what already happened with matic coin? it was getting manipulated by the team and exchange site. crypto will always be a manipulative market and that is really possible to happen anytime. Cheap price becomes a bullshit reason when you are seeing an instant dump from the dev

Not only matic every project trying to to implement their project then they wish to go with exchanges and wanna make some money e on using it.
Then all the hunters and investors mostly goes to exchange and sell their coins as soon as possible to keep their funds very much safer.

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December 15, 2019, 07:24:59 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.
Stable for what? have you seen what already happened with matic coin? it was getting manipulated by the team and exchange site. crypto will always be a manipulative market and that is really possible to happen anytime. Cheap price becomes a bullshit reason when you are seeing an instant dump from the dev

Not only matic every project trying to to implement their project then they wish to go with exchanges and wanna make some money e on using it.
Then all the hunters and investors mostly goes to exchange and sell their coins as soon as possible to keep their funds very much safer.

Trading altcoins mostly are run by the early investors who will just dump in the market and then there's your developer who also wanna profit by milking the market for how long they may want it. Matic will just be dump as long as there isn't bullrun yet. They own the market, they may not follow the roadmap or announce something else forcing holders to dump. They'd be moving to BTC because its the safest so far not alts.

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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.

if that is true that people buy at low prices then are still buying now ? but what do you think the price is stable  ? if they buy the price should start moving upwards  or fluctuate atleast   .

cryptos are known to be volatile type of coins but if they became stable then there is already something wrong them , they are already being maniputalted  but manipulation are always been there because cryptos were also known to be a manipulative type of currencies  .
The market is under manipulative forever, the level of manipulation as well as the impact out of the manipulation might be experienced low than other times. As said cryptos without the feature of volatility can't be considered cryptocurrency. This means there is something wrong or some whales trying to create some panic moments to profit out of the same.
The very basic thing that people always do with crypto is to make crypto participants always make mistakes and panic. so that it will always take actions that are actually detrimental when the panic occurs, all actions can make mistakes when anticipating.
so many are looking for profits in the event of these errors and I agree with you that should not have happened. because we know that investment in crypto is very vulnerable to such manipulation. but I believe crypto will remain passionate even if it happens like this and ordinary.
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.
Stable for what? have you seen what already happened with matic coin? it was getting manipulated by the team and exchange site. crypto will always be a manipulative market and that is really possible to happen anytime. Cheap price becomes a bullshit reason when you are seeing an instant dump from the dev

Not only matic every project trying to to implement their project then they wish to go with exchanges and wanna make some money e on using it.
Then all the hunters and investors mostly goes to exchange and sell their coins as soon as possible to keep their funds very much safer.

Trading altcoins mostly are run by the early investors who will just dump in the market and then there's your developer who also wanna profit by milking the market for how long they may want it. Matic will just be dump as long as there isn't bullrun yet. They own the market, they may not follow the roadmap or announce something else forcing holders to dump. They'd be moving to BTC because its the safest so far not alts.

Youre somehow wrong because the last time I checked most of the early investors of altcoin market are always after secure their investment due to the turn of new projects these days and it the arbitrage trader that run the altcoin market. However, this is the reason why the signal (pump and dump) group was implemented in the first before people abuse the system.

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December 15, 2019, 08:53:05 PM
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I think the current market conditions are still stable and not because there are certain parties who can manipulate price movements, but there are still many people who do not want to be left behind to be able to buy at cheap prices, resulting in more offers than market demand.
Stable for what? have you seen what already happened with matic coin? it was getting manipulated by the team and exchange site. crypto will always be a manipulative market and that is really possible to happen anytime. Cheap price becomes a bullshit reason when you are seeing an instant dump from the dev

Not only matic every project trying to to implement their project then they wish to go with exchanges and wanna make some money e on using it.
Then all the hunters and investors mostly goes to exchange and sell their coins as soon as possible to keep their funds very much safer.

Trading altcoins mostly are run by the early investors who will just dump in the market and then there's your developer who also wanna profit by milking the market for how long they may want it. Matic will just be dump as long as there isn't bullrun yet. They own the market, they may not follow the roadmap or announce something else forcing holders to dump. They'd be moving to BTC because its the safest so far not alts.

Youre somehow wrong because the last time I checked most of the early investors of altcoin market are always after secure their investment due to the turn of new projects these days and it the arbitrage trader that run the altcoin market. However, this is the reason why the signal (pump and dump) group was implemented in the first before people abuse the system.
I supported what you said because altcoin early investors barely make profit these days and this literally lead to the bleeding of some altcoin in the market, what altcoin early investors do now is to sell their holding for bitcoin or stablecoins which everybody believe is currently the secure investment once they gain some few bucks out of their investment.

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