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November 12, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
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might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.

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November 12, 2019, 01:41:40 PM
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might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.

No whales will reveal the information if they want to manipulate the market and actually there are some comments here are right since if they buy large volumes of coins and move it to exchange and sold then it can create a huge changes for the market price. You can also see the past news where manipulation occur and the perfect example with that are the past fuds scattering which affect the bitcoins price badly.

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November 12, 2019, 03:23:26 PM
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might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.

No whales will reveal the information if they want to manipulate the market and actually there are some comments here are right since if they buy large volumes of coins and move it to exchange and sold then it can create a huge changes for the market price. You can also see the past news where manipulation occur and the perfect example with that are the past fuds scattering which affect the bitcoins price badly.

whales are who manipulating crypto market. many people know about it
remember that cryptomarket is still low-caps compared other asset, it means that to manipulate is easier, just spend some money and you can play this gemz
i think it is how market works, being smart to follow whales is the key!
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November 12, 2019, 04:00:38 PM
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Maybe you have a point, this is the pope's last chance to buy bitcoin cheaply and then it will be pumped. but as small players we also need to be vigilant, the Pope can manipulate the market to their liking. Do not follow Fomo, it will make you lose, Buy now and hold it until Halving BTC happens, this is a very good opportunity to be able to benefit from BTC.
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November 13, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
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We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.
I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.
The price of bitcoin is stable so there is no manipulation happen right now. You can only see it if there are a large movement of the price like what happen in 2017. Obviously the price is manipualted in the last quarter of that year and take all thier profit after ,thats why we see the price back to 3000$ in early 2019 that was the negative effect of it.
The spot forex market is regulated and we can see the similar price movements like in the chart of BTC but these price movements don't happen inside the single 1m minute candle on the charts. The irregulated market opens the gate for the market manipulators and they do whatever they want to do with the illiquid prices. They hunt stops and novice traders get rekt for the mentioned reasons.
The market of cryptocurrencies has such a low volume that manipulating the price is easier than what many people think, it is for this reason we see the market moving in such a volatile way, and this should make us think, if the whales can move the market of bitcoin in such an easy way imagine what they can do to the altcoin market, so what we can do to protect ourselves from this manipulation? And the only way you can protect yourself is by always having a stop loss ready in your favourite exchange.
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November 14, 2019, 01:31:49 AM
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might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.
No whales will reveal the information if they want to manipulate the market and actually there are some comments here are right since if they buy large volumes of coins and move it to exchange and sold then it can create a huge changes for the market price. You can also see the past news where manipulation occur and the perfect example with that are the past fuds scattering which affect the bitcoins price badly.
Manipulation can occur at any time if the whale wants and nobody can stop it when that happens. I think any coin will be manipulated and that makes the market always volatile recently. Almost all of the coins that we often invest in are coins that can rise or fall unexpectedly, so you have to take that risk into the crypto market. I personally am afraid of investing in the bear market and always willing to accept losses if that happens.

Now get used to the facts and maybe this manipulation will last forever in this market.
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November 21, 2019, 01:43:06 AM
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might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.
There are some entities in the market that can manipulate the price of all coins at the same time, they are called exchanges, and in my opinion they are one of the biggest obstacles for the progress of this market, they lie about the volume they have, they lie about the number of transactions on their books and they manipulate the price of many coins, what we need is for decentralized exchanges to be more popular and when that happens centralized exchanges and their manipulations will be a thing of the past.
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November 21, 2019, 01:55:17 AM
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The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
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November 21, 2019, 02:12:19 AM
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The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
They have huge amount where it can influence the market, whenever they move surely it will make impacts and traders simply followed them. It's sad when you miscalculates everything and you ended up being trapped since whales easily knows when to buy and sell with a sure profits in their hands. The very reason that observing and assessment is very important when you are working with volatile market, if you will not pay attention and you'll not be careful the outcome of your business always in the wrong side, take time to learned deeper to enhance your skills and not be bothered by anything but only by your own assumptions.
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November 21, 2019, 03:56:19 AM
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We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.
I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.
The price of bitcoin is stable so there is no manipulation happen right now. You can only see it if there are a large movement of the price like what happen in 2017. Obviously the price is manipualted in the last quarter of that year and take all thier profit after ,thats why we see the price back to 3000$ in early 2019 that was the negative effect of it.
The spot forex market is regulated and we can see the similar price movements like in the chart of BTC but these price movements don't happen inside the single 1m minute candle on the charts. The irregulated market opens the gate for the market manipulators and they do whatever they want to do with the illiquid prices. They hunt stops and novice traders get rekt for the mentioned reasons.
The market of cryptocurrencies has such a low volume that manipulating the price is easier than what many people think, it is for this reason we see the market moving in such a volatile way, and this should make us think, if the whales can move the market of bitcoin in such an easy way imagine what they can do to the altcoin market, so what we can do to protect ourselves from this manipulation? And the only way you can protect yourself is by always having a stop loss ready in your favourite exchange.
But it's not always working, sometimes there would be an error that makes our stop loss can't working properly. I have seen several cases happened with some people that they were getting big loses caused by the stop loss feature was not working. To make sure to trade with low amount of money will be much preferable.
So many cases have told us if sometimes exchange can get an error. The manipulation is only not on its volume but the fact that the system of exchange site itself can be manipulated.
We know that the developer is a party that was holding all of the access to the exchange site itself.
The market is so unhealthy.

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November 21, 2019, 04:25:27 AM
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The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
Whales always exist in every situation but if you take advantage of it, it will be very easy for you to make a profit because volatile market is  good time for you to buy some coins. I am usually very interested in this and often make a small investment to mimic whale thinking. Of course, has not always been successful, but I have tried it during the last few years and there are many lessons when the market is volatile.

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November 21, 2019, 05:00:06 AM
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Now the market seems to be like that because when the price of Bitcoin drops the prices of altcoins are kept decreasing. Most of the prices of the potential altcoins are decreasing in the market, we don't know exactly who is manipulating. Definitely whales will have a hand on it, which they can easily turn the market according to their way.
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November 21, 2019, 12:19:47 PM
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usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I have also read about thoughts in this forum, I also think that many big traders manipulate and also use large exchanges to take advantage of moments in it, so I think this market manipulation is done to get more Bitcoin supplies from the hands of weak people who sell them cheap , so I can only buy it when a lot of crypto currencies go down at cheap prices today, one more thing is actually we are already in Q4 2019

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November 21, 2019, 12:34:37 PM
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It sure looks like it. Last week of October saw Bitcoin pumped 40% in just three days. Lots of bears wiped out. And now the price is almost back to where the pump started. It sure looked bullish back then and now what happened to it?

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November 21, 2019, 01:18:13 PM
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usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
Your thinking is not wrong and it is telling the truth that is happening in this crypto market. Everything is a mess when prices are constantly fluctuating without control. The whales are trying to manipulate the price of bitcoin so that in a few months, they will buy bitcoin back and create a surge.
and this could be a good sign for us to hold USDT and wait for the price to drop below $ 7k8.

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November 21, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
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Now the market seems to be like that because when the price of Bitcoin drops the prices of altcoins are kept decreasing. Most of the prices of the potential altcoins are decreasing in the market, we don't know exactly who is manipulating. Definitely whales will have a hand on it, which they can easily turn the market according to their way.

With the current market situation, the price of bitcoin dropped dramatically and continuously retreated to important milestones, that's really a sign that the whale is trying to set up a new plan for this market, many people will be able to feel that bitcoin is in the process of adjusting, whales cannot manipulate so strongly but no, whales may not be completely in control, but they have a strong impact on each person's psychology, daily panic and anxiety. The manipulation here is no longer in the price range, the manipulation here includes the price and psychology of the participants

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November 21, 2019, 01:35:10 PM
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Now the market seems to be like that because when the price of Bitcoin drops the prices of altcoins are kept decreasing. Most of the prices of the potential altcoins are decreasing in the market, we don't know exactly who is manipulating. Definitely whales will have a hand on it, which they can easily turn the market according to their way.

With the current market situation, the price of bitcoin dropped dramatically and continuously retreated to important milestones, that's really a sign that the whale is trying to set up a new plan for this market, many people will be able to feel that bitcoin is in the process of adjusting, whales cannot manipulate so strongly but no, whales may not be completely in control, but they have a strong impact on each person's psychology, daily panic and anxiety. The manipulation here is no longer in the price range, the manipulation here includes the price and psychology of the participants


I think the market is easily manipulated by the whales because 10 years ago bitcoin is really cheap even anybody can buy much of it if they can see the potential of this digital currency, and right now it does not rule out the possibility there are many people who hold hundred thousand of bitcoin on their wallet and they can easily pump and dump the market by spreading their assets into many exchanges
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November 21, 2019, 04:33:13 PM
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The market is always being manipulated.  With bitcoin less and less the higher the volume gets, it takes much more capital than in the past to move the market one way or the other.  But alt markets are always being toyed with.  The volume is just too small to avoid these manipulations.  Always be careful of spikes in either direction it's usually a game being played.

i agree. the smaller the volume, the easier the p&d game is. with bitcoin,
you have to act nicely on manipulated messages to really change something. Cheesy
but it's not that easy anymore and the overall market already has a certain stability.
not like shares for example, but it's not comparable.
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November 21, 2019, 04:48:10 PM
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The market is always being manipulated.  With bitcoin less and less the higher the volume gets, it takes much more capital than in the past to move the market one way or the other.  But alt markets are always being toyed with.  The volume is just too small to avoid these manipulations.  Always be careful of spikes in either direction it's usually a game being played.

i agree. the smaller the volume, the easier the p&d game is. with bitcoin,
you have to act nicely on manipulated messages to really change something. Cheesy
but it's not that easy anymore and the overall market already has a certain stability.
not like shares for example, but it's not comparable.

There couls be a reason on why it being manipulated and doing a pump and dump strategy is really affecting a lot of people because they may panic on selling and buying but still whales win on this kind of situation.

And we can also take advantagr if its being manilulate by whales and we all know that crypto market will not stay at the bottom but it will definitely rise up their value.
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November 21, 2019, 06:13:30 PM
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usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
Q4 of the year is somewhat being anticipated from time to time knowing that bull run or price increase do happen in these times usually but not always a precise thing to rely on.
Asking on what would be the price or this might be the dip? No, we cant predict such thing thats why we've continue to speculate things here on this very unpredictable market.
Manipulation? Not a surprising thing yet there would always be big players who would got involved and can really influence market price depending to their likes.

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