Is the market currently being manipulated?

[Experia]

There is no particular signal for the manipulation and there is also no signal for the market to come bullish again. We cant control those whales and we dont even know their buying and selling patern for us to say that they are manipulating the market.

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[tenakha]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

Why do you think the market is being manipulated? Only the price went down to $300-$400 and this is the usual normal state of the BTC. Also, the price is always pumped up to any price, and the price can not be pumped without stopping. It needs to stop somewhere and regather power. Do not be afraid of this fall, this is just a small price fall, prepare for the next pump.

[ajeef]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

Yeah i think because the whales want to buy bitcoin with lower price before they pump it. So, if they failed to make the market to a bull run, at least they can take profits for selling with higher price before. But this is in a short term. And associated with BTC halving i'm sure the whales are ready with their own strategies and it might be surpriced us in the future. So be ready for any strategies that whales will make and be ready with any market condition.

[inanilujimi]

how can a market as large as crypto be manipulated ??
people just speculate and guess where the market is going, doesn't mean that someone can manipulate this market, for me it is not possible to manipulate the market as you wish.

[puremage111]

Yes
Trust me, the marketcap is just way too small where whales/institutions/rich players could likely push the market with just a minor amount

Look at those Pump and Dump
a 200+ BTC instant dump could crash few hundred in certain exchanges where it also trigger a domino effect to all exchange

So yes, the current marketcap is now too small where it can be easily violate and manipulate

[coin-investor]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

There are many theories on this and yours is just one of this, and every coin has theories on what could be the reason why the coin is going down or going up, every coin has whales behind them and manipulators, but the best indication besides these whales and manipulators are the news and ongoing development of the coin or project, in the case of Bitcoin I consider this as some traders going for exit profit, but there's no doubt Bitcoin will go up because of the halving..

[Wysi]

how can a market as large as crypto be manipulated ??
people just speculate and guess where the market is going, doesn't mean that someone can manipulate this market, for me it is not possible to manipulate the market as you wish.

No I market cap is not too large and it's really easy to manipulate the price, if you don't think that the market cannot be manipulated then what's driving this fluctuations wherein all of a sudden we see pump or dump as its not possible with the normal transactions which we make. I would suggest you to check the sell orders of big exchanges just after dump and you will understand the concept.

[Apened]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

Right from the start for me i think everything is manipulated, we know how big whales manipulate the price but we can't recognize every minute. Most of the whales attacks any other whales in the market in short they both want to manipulate the price like for example putting a big wall in selling or buying to push the price uo or down it is a kind of manipulation and when they think the order can be eaten they will remove the wall simply called manipulation or dictating the price to go in either direction.

[Doell]

your thoughts are not wrong we are undergoing correction but it is unlikely to fall deeper so $8,000 is the lowest price possible for later ,so be ready to see the pump later before the end of this month

[topbitcoin]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

If you think about that, maybe some other people possibly think about that too. If me, when i have same opinion with the OP about market is manipulated, maybe after i make sure it is really happen, i will very confident with my investment. For me, maybe believe with our analysis is good, and what should we do is how we make profit with it. If market manipulated, so what should we do is look for right moment when price dumped. And then buy some when that time really come.

[takngantuk]

I knew from the beginning the market had been manipulated, but that was not the question. I want to know, what is the purpose of manipulation that exists today. is this related to halving bitcoin or not? if not, then what is their purpose in manipulating the market other than to get profits when halving bitcoin later.

[Febo]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

Less then 5% price declines are just normal daily behaviour of cryptocurrencies. Tomorrow they will gain those 5% back. Problem would be if coins would lose 5% every day.

[deathcode]

your thoughts are not wrong we are undergoing correction but it is unlikely to fall deeper so $8,000 is the lowest price possible for later ,so be ready to see the pump later before the end of this month

yes, maybe this is indeed a market manipulation to welcome the update bitcoin for halving in the next year. the pump will occur, but not in the short term. later this month is also not necessarily good for the pump. the market is still in a bad state and it will be like this until the pump will actually start running.

[Adriano2010]

In my opinion now market is manipulated in proportion of 65%, by whales, by bad news, by interest groups, and sometimes by people from governments even if not directly.

[jossiel]

We have that mindset that the market is manipulated and there were several articles that came out for it to report but we don't know what exactly is happening during the dumps. We have a certain idea that there's a massive selling that occurs.

I concur about your idea before the pump, there should be a sort of correction for the whales to accumulate. Perhaps, they really are the ones that's pulling the price down so that they can easily sell, accumulate and repeat.

I supported what you said but the reason why some people believed the market to be manipulated is because of the volatility in nature of crypto market. Meanwhile, there's always a reason behind every trend posed by the market and current trend was slightly market correction which usually occur every Q4 of the year which is not block halving year. However, we have a situation where the whales are the one behind the market status.

Yep, it's always the whales that has it behind the market but about the manipulation we don't really have an idea about the actual scene. I used to believe that it's been manipulated but no proof for that and just all the reports that it is.

In my opinion now market is manipulated in proportion of 65%, by whales, by bad news, by interest groups, and sometimes by people from governments even if not directly.

The bad news do really pull the prices down but when we see some a bit of good news, we don't see the opposite of it.

[Pelunize12]

the market is always like that, manipulated by whales. that's the power of whales. but let it be, without whale we cant see any asset to grow

The point is how smart we follow the whale. if we are smart enough then we can get profit. if we do opposite, ofc we will lose

so, learn and play like a whale plays. it isnt easy but it can be learned

To do this requires a lot of experience in investing and is not always fortunate to earn high profits from this market. Whales may have a very important role in the market but most are the ones who want to manipulate and they will sell all when the profit is high. For whales, they only see this market as a tool to make money so the risk of investment can absolutely happen at any time.

I think any financial market is risky and can either help an investor to make a profit or cause that investor to lose all his assets.

of course it is not easy, because investing and trading are serious business. we have to spend much time and understand how the business works

and we have to learn from our experience, market often tells us something new. if we cant learn from the mistake, then we would fail

but, let it flow. just learning and never give up on the market. you'll understand how market works in the future and follow whales

[o48o]

if you think that bitcoin market being manipulated i think it's impossible because you need larger capital so you can manipulate the bitcoin price
but it's different if you choose other altcoins that just released it's easy to manipulate their prices as long you had enough capital

It's far from impossible. Check the bitcoin holders top 100 list, the wealth is highly focused to few people, they can easily manipulate markets. Even though the buy and sell walls seem like they need large capital, it's peanuts for some of the players. And they are pseudonymous so we don't even know who they are. Same goes to all altcoins,

[boltz]

Everything look normal , like it always do so yes , markets are always manipulated but this shouldn't be an impediment for us to stay away and not investing into cryptocurrencies especially now , when the accumulate zone kicked in. Look at the volume in the last month at altcoins and you will see that most of them are into accumulation period and a lot of money are being trow into them with the purpose at some point this year some of them will rise.

[cryptothreads]

I knew from the beginning the market had been manipulated, but that was not the question. I want to know, what is the purpose of manipulation that exists today. is this related to halving bitcoin or not? if not, then what is their purpose in manipulating the market other than to get profits when halving bitcoin later.

For whales, they only see this market as a tool to make money so profit is always their top priority. In fact, this market has been manipulated for the past few years and no one can predict what they will do next because everything in the crypto market is very risky. In my opinion, it is best to learn carefully before investing because Bitcoin can also make you lose money.

I think this manipulation will only make the market worse as the current downtrend has not ended and we will face another bear market in the next few years. This is something no one expects but if they continue to speculate on the market, future of crypto will be very bad.

[crossabdd]

it might happen, I think, there is no crypto market that is not manipulated. all crypto markets are still manipulated. those whales can always make pumps and dumps on the market. yes, maybe now is the last decline before all markets have growth and create new high price levels. may all be over soon.