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November 30, 2019, 03:36:03 AM |
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the fall in prices in the market that we see is also influenced by certain countries that hold many shares
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kynaz
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November 30, 2019, 10:16:50 AM |
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No know when there will be a pump and dump person people can only predict, and many say the ALT season will not come this year, could be true or not.
Because the crypto market is not predicted.
May be a bit of manipulation when the pump or dump arrives occur.
Market is going through a period of manipulation so volatility can occur at any time. I think altcoin is the investment that disappointed investors this year and it is best to limit investment during this time because the risk will make you lose a lot. Currently, you should only buy some valuable altcoins in this market and the best advice is to choose Ethereum, Binance, Atom, Litecoin, Bitcoin because these are the most prestigious options in investment. |
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November 30, 2019, 05:54:09 PM |
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the fall in prices in the market that we see is also influenced by certain countries that hold many shares
Hope you are aware that none of the countries invested in any of the crypto market but there may be funds coming from private fund house and individuals and moreover it is an open market and anyone can invest in it, so you cannot blame on a specific country for the manipulation in the market, anyone with huge funds can do so in an unregulated market as they will not be facing any fines. |
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December 02, 2019, 11:53:33 PM |
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usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.
then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
There is nothing wrong in your thinking because it was your own perception regarding the matter. Well, many people do also think the same way you do whenever the price goes up a little bit but drops twice than the hype and perceive it as a manipulation in the market brought by the whales of the crypto. But as of this moment, I cannot momentarily say that there is a certain manipulation that is happening because based on the price chart, the ups and downs are on its usual state in which basically it is normal. We must not be stressed out on the all of a sudden drop in the prices after a small pump because there are lots of factors that is being considered why certain fluctuations is happening in the market. |
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December 03, 2019, 04:40:07 AM |
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haha, good question
the market is always being manipulated.. especially crypto market
big markets even gold are being manipulated.
if its by the news or if its by manipulating the actual price/stats of the asset
dont expect rationality from this market its my advice
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December 03, 2019, 12:02:01 PM |
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haha, good question
the market is always being manipulated.. especially crypto market
big markets even gold are being manipulated.
if its by the news or if its by manipulating the actual price/stats of the asset
dont expect rationality from this market its my advice
One proof might be the Tether scandal but other than that, the events could simply be the huge selling orders on different exchanges. Those high volume sales are making the price lower and huge players know how to do it. Although we don't have a proof who they are but it could be everyone that's also contributing to that wave. The news plays a big influence to the crypto market and if it's scary, the crowd will react immediately. |
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December 03, 2019, 05:42:40 PM |
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haha, good question
the market is always being manipulated.. especially crypto market
big markets even gold are being manipulated.
if its by the news or if its by manipulating the actual price/stats of the asset
dont expect rationality from this market its my advice
One proof might be the Tether scandal but other than that, the events could simply be the huge selling orders on different exchanges. Those high volume sales are making the price lower and huge players know how to do it. Although we don't have a proof who they are but it could be everyone that's also contributing to that wave. The news plays a big influence to the crypto market and if it's scary, the crowd will react immediately. The proof can be found if you can carefully observe the order book and liquidity on the big exchanges, the manipulators put the limit buy orders and price tends to hit these orders. Logically, the price tracks the liquidity and when it is close hitting the order, the crypto manipulators pull the limit orders and bingo. The sellers start to panic and push the price lower levels. |
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seramania
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December 03, 2019, 05:43:19 PM |
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I see the current market has nothing to do with manipulation, now I think the market will easily be in a position of increase or decrease. so I don't think this is a manipulation because it will only cause panic issues in the crypto market
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December 03, 2019, 05:58:49 PM |
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I see the current market has nothing to do with manipulation, now I think the market will easily be in a position of increase or decrease. so I don't think this is a manipulation because it will only cause panic issues in the crypto market
bitcoin has been sideways in the last 12 days to determine new reactions and major manipulations have not yet taken place. But the tendency is very strong where a small altcoin can be manipulated every day, I still consider it normal. Now it has entered Q4 and if it moves historically, in the last 2 weeks there will be an unnatural wave in determining the latest prices, and we need to see which dominance is higher. |
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December 05, 2019, 02:05:22 AM |
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haha, good question
the market is always being manipulated.. especially crypto market
big markets even gold are being manipulated.
if its by the news or if its by manipulating the actual price/stats of the asset
dont expect rationality from this market its my advice
Many investors seems to care about whether the market is manipulated or not because of their sense of fairness, but it is very clear that all of those actors that are very powerful will try to get their way with the market, that is completely natural and that doesn't really bother me, as a trader the only thing that I care about is if I can take advantage of the movements of the market whether there is manipulation or not, and for what I can tell it seems that I'm able to make some small profits out of the market. |
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December 05, 2019, 03:36:34 AM |
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this market is very easily manipulated - so yes it is manipulated
you can see it just by the high volumes on exchanges
by fake news
its already kind of manipulation - isnt it?
think about how many things happening that we can not see..
i really dont want to think about how strong the manipulation
but i really think that the final goal of the manipulators is to grow the market and make it even more profitable for them
ust investing in projects that keep on building
thats the best thing to do in my opinion
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Questat
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December 05, 2019, 05:18:16 AM |
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I see the current market has nothing to do with manipulation, now I think the market will easily be in a position of increase or decrease. so I don't think this is a manipulation because it will only cause panic issues in the crypto market
The current market maybe not manipulated as manipulation does not happen everyday or all the time. When the whales sees an opportunity like big news that could help move the market significantly, they'll start the manipulation to play their game, so in overall this market can easily be manipulated by those who hold a big portion of the supply. |
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December 05, 2019, 06:03:12 AM |
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Yes, there is manipulation. Because derivatives have larger trading volume than spot trading. Prices of derivatives like margin take precedence. Now, to maximize pips or profit, the whales pump the coin price and then dump it hard to trigger stop losses which also adds to the selling pressure. That's why you see S-like formation on the Bitcoin price.
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December 05, 2019, 08:37:19 AM |
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now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I'm sure there is some manipulation, but I think it can be overstated. Small coins can be manipulated easily, but it takes a lot to manipulate bitcoin significantly. Yes I think whales are trying, but I don't think that they can do more than give BTC price a small nudge. |
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December 05, 2019, 11:21:32 AM |
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Unfortunately, there have always been market manipulations, not just now. Manipulations with markets are not new in the world, what people learned with stock market applied on crypto market, buy low sell high, and even better if you have means to affect the price to go down or high, if you control decent amount of coins. We are all affected by manipulations, if you hold any coin, be sure that there are whales that can manipulate with the price of that coin. We can't do nothing about that, except to try to be fast and sell on time if someone is dropping huge amounts of coins and to buy again when price drops.
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Omega Weapon
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December 10, 2019, 03:54:11 AM |
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now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I'm sure there is some manipulation, but I think it can be overstated. Small coins can be manipulated easily, but it takes a lot to manipulate bitcoin significantly. Yes I think whales are trying, but I don't think that they can do more than give BTC price a small nudge. But you are making the assumption that the whales are trying to use fiat to manipulate the market, the whales of this market are holding bitcoin and regardless of the price of bitcoin in fiat they still have the same amount of bitcoin, which means that early adopters that have tens of thousands or even more coins can move the price as they wish by manipulating the supply and the demand of bitcoin, however that manipulation is not really an excuse to not make money in the markets. |
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December 10, 2019, 04:35:26 AM |
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ALWAYS
the market is always manipulated
i could even argue that its manipulated since day one
and even the "unknown creator of bitcoin" is a manipulation
everything is part of the plan
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December 10, 2019, 12:32:48 PM |
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now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I'm sure there is some manipulation, but I think it can be overstated. Small coins can be manipulated easily, but it takes a lot to manipulate bitcoin significantly. Yes I think whales are trying, but I don't think that they can do more than give BTC price a small nudge. But you are making the assumption that the whales are trying to use fiat to manipulate the market, the whales of this market are holding bitcoin and regardless of the price of bitcoin in fiat they still have the same amount of bitcoin, which means that early adopters that have tens of thousands or even more coins can move the price as they wish by manipulating the supply and the demand of bitcoin, however that manipulation is not really an excuse to not make money in the markets. I don't think the market is currently manipulated in which those big whales already aware the possible of huge movement of the price of bitcoin. Also, those who invest huge amount want an assurance as they experience losses of their own perceptions of different coins they choose. Soon in the future, market will recover as wish by many here in crypto currency community. |
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December 10, 2019, 01:20:28 PM |
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Crypto market is being manipulated from the very beginning, sudden drops and raises are made from huge whales. They are earning so much money, while unexperienced investors are losing their money while trying to catch the train.
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December 10, 2019, 04:18:07 PM |
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Crypto market is being manipulated from the very beginning, sudden drops and raises are made from huge whales. They are earning so much money, while unexperienced investors are losing their money while trying to catch the train.
It has always been like this from the very beginning. And it can't be help since manipulation thrives on low liquidity or low trading volume. It is very easy to push the price up when it's cheap to do it. But when there's more trading volume, it will be costly to do. |
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