Is the market currently being manipulated?

[coingrowth]

If it is too obvious, you will know for sure since it's just a two way to know it. One is right and one is wrong, if you see that there is no news/article then suddenly the market acted it's own way then that is too obvious, right? Everything here can be seen through statistics and data, you don't need someone to tell it to you. The free resources are telling it to you already.

I don't think news or articles affect much in crypto, rather it's only effective for stocks or forex. The reason is that crypto isn't affected by the economics or whatever business or bilateral partnership. The only manipulators in crypto are whales which can be considered as stakeholders. It's easy to indentify that they exist once a market becomes volatile for no reason.

Exactly what I meant to say that once the market started to act strange it is either the whales or a normal movement of the market. The only manipulator we have are those whales who can do whatever they want in the market. We small fishes had to follow them in order to take that profit that we want.

That is what everyone should understand because we should always follow the market conditions, once the price of coins, increasing whales will manipulate and we should always follow them in order to make a profit. Whales will always manipulate the market to make a huge profit for them.

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[adroitful_one]

Just about every market I have seen was being manipulated at some point in the crypto world. You'll see guys place a several thousand dollar sell order at a certain price on a coin that doesn't get a whole lot of action just to lower the price down a bit and fill more of his buy orders. Then, once the buy orders are filled, you'll see that sell order disappear without anyone even buying them. It's pretty obvious what's going on in those cases. Not much you can do about it except place a buy order near that guys and do what he's doing. Just do what the manipulators are doing and you should end up doing just fine.

[carlisle1]

its always been manipulated mate,specially when there are some news coming out and they will have a chance to manage the manipulation.

this has been happening for long years now though there are no proof but its an obvious scenario and theres nothing to think more.so dont just think that its only from recent but for many times already.

Indeed manipulation has not yet proven, but I do believed that whales had a huge contribution why btc price surges and declined abruptly.

exactly what i mean mate because we can see some bad actions everytime there is a news coming out.

Most traders who've been holding for so long, can determine the way it should and how the market goes in fairly. Most of the movement prevails through the recurring pattern, which can be seen as you're monitoring closely with the recent changes. We eventually see the usual circumstances that always tend to occur from the past, that has now happening all over again.

but sometimes even Old timer fails in analyzing which way and when the pattern will occur,in some occasions these old traders also become a victim of trapping from the manipulators

[slaman29]

Exactly what I meant to say that once the market started to act strange it is either the whales or a normal movement of the market. The only manipulator we have are those whales who can do whatever they want in the market. We small fishes had to follow them in order to take that profit that we want.

We don't have to follow them, you know. We can just choose to remain on the sidelines and then enter the market whenever we are comfortable, regardless of whale action or not.

In fact, it is when small fishes follow that whales can repeatedly do what they do, cause they see that it works every single time. Maybe if it stopped working they'll find less incentive in doing what they do.

[btc78]

Exactly what I meant to say that once the market started to act strange it is either the whales or a normal movement of the market. The only manipulator we have are those whales who can do whatever they want in the market. We small fishes had to follow them in order to take that profit that we want.

We don't have to follow them, you know. We can just choose to remain on the sidelines and then enter the market whenever we are comfortable, regardless of whale action or not.

the problem is  how do we know if the movement is manipulation or not?because thats the main concern for all us investors t find when and where this will happen.

In fact, it is when small fishes follow that whales can repeatedly do what they do, cause they see that it works every single time. Maybe if it stopped working they'll find less incentive in doing what they do.

how can we stop them?they have been here for long,they even bagged tons of money yet they are here continuing what is the drill ,and people are becoming victims over and over again.

[davinchi]

Well, no one will be able to really ascertain if the market is being manipulated or not, anything can be responsible for the movement of bitcoin value, it could be real organic movement and could be real manipulation.

It could be that someone that holds large amount of coin have seen that it is the right time for him to remove his investment with the gain on it while some could decide to stay longer, so many things can be responsible for it, and I think that this time around, the value of bitcoin is just moving the way it should, small pump and corresponding correction, and this is what usually make majority of the traders around to really enter into trade at dip time and then exit the trade at the pump time, so all we should do also is just to study the market and know that every dip is a blessing.

[cribusen]

In my opinion, the market is manipulated every single day. I cannot explain, why BTCs behaviour is so strange and that without any announcement, the price can drop or raise for 2-3k USD within several days.

[diazepam666]

We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.
I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.

[rincoeng1986]

In my opinion, the market is manipulated every single day. I cannot explain, why BTCs behaviour is so strange and that without any announcement, the price can drop or raise for 2-3k USD within several days.

I think the price manipulation that occurred in crypto trading can be done by exchange, but of course this is not an easy thing and also requires quite a lot of funds to buy bitcoin and resell it in a short time so that it can be seen that the activity of increasing bitcoin prices is quite high in exchange so that it makes investors interested in investing in bitcoin and in this case of course the exchange will be very profitable because it gets income from the occurrence of the transaction activity.

[Psynthax]

In my opinion, the market is manipulated every single day. I cannot explain, why BTCs behaviour is so strange and that without any announcement, the price can drop or raise for 2-3k USD within several days.

Bitcoin is not using the announcement to determine how strong the fundamental of the market and create hype. bitcoin uses the news to create hype and pump. So many bitcoin news is getting published everyday and i hope you can visit the crypto news site directly to see if that is happening right now dude.
It's not a strange thing but you don't understand about that. If you wanna watch the news site and you will know everything.

[andreibi]

Markets are always magnets for manipulation even with regulatory body oversight on steroids. The lure of making easy money is always there. Just recently the Robinhood was plagued with a bug that lets users have infinite margin. They made millions. If there's no clear advantage for the clever and devious, market prices would remain flat.

[Vitalicus]

We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.
I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.

I love this manipulated market this year because I have many opportunities to buy some cheap coins and can sell immediately if the market corrects slightly. In fact, this is the easiest way of trading and during the last time, I have made a lot of great profits from here. May be risky, but I still want whales to manipulate this market because I have learned how to track whale movements and predict when volatility will occur.

[Questat]

We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.

This market would not pump and dump if no manipulation is happening here, we should get used to it.
I had witnessed most of the important event in crypto and its market effect but I learn that when there's a huge pump, dump will always follow, regardless on when it will happen.

I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.

Because the whales are in control and they make money trading.
When they short the market, they can create a panic to dump and do the opposite if they long the market, that's how it works, let us not make it complicated.

[BigBos]

Well, no one will be able to really ascertain if the market is being manipulated or not, anything can be responsible for the movement of bitcoin value, it could be real organic movement and could be real manipulation.

It could be that someone that holds large amount of coin have seen that it is the right time for him to remove his investment with the gain on it while some could decide to stay longer, so many things can be responsible for it, and I think that this time around, the value of bitcoin is just moving the way it should, small pump and corresponding correction, and this is what usually make majority of the traders around to really enter into trade at dip time and then exit the trade at the pump time, so all we should do also is just to study the market and know that every dip is a blessing.

it is not wrong if people think that prices are manipulated because prices sometimes go down before going up. that happened several times, and currently, the price of bitcoin has fallen below $ 9k again.
it all depends on our beliefs, if you believe that this is manipulation before the pump comes, you should immediately buy up popular bitcoin or coins. at present, we can only take advantage of that situation. honestly, manipulated or not, I'm pretty sure the price of bitcoin will go up after this.

[Rodeo02]

We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.
I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.

The price of bitcoin is stable so there is no manipulation happen right now. You can only see it if there are a large movement of the price like what happen in 2017. Obviously the price is manipualted in the last quarter of that year and take all thier profit after ,thats why we see the price back to 3000$ in early 2019 that was the negative effect of it.

[jostorres]

In my opinion, the market is manipulated every single day. I cannot explain, why BTCs behaviour is so strange and that without any announcement, the price can drop or raise for 2-3k USD within several days.

First we have to consider that it is demand and supply that really control the value of bitcoin, and when there is demand for bitcoin that is higher than its supply, the value tends to increase and the moment that the supply of bitcoin becomes more than the demand, the value tends to decrease, so we will always see this happen which is why we have the term volatility, bitcoin is still very volatile now and we will be seeing this often , and we are also more concerned about it because many of us want bitcoin for investment which makes us all to be looking at it from the fiat perspective and not the quantity of bitcoin that we have.

If a financial institution needs to pay someone with bitcoin in large amount of money, you know it will pass through the market cap, and at that time, it will raise the value of bitcoin, it now depends on the recover to either keep the money in the market or exchange it back to fiat.

[alan2here]

Well, no one will be able to really ascertain if the market is being manipulated or not, anything can be responsible for the movement of bitcoin value, it could be real organic movement and could be real manipulation.

It could be that someone that holds large amount of coin have seen that it is the right time for him to remove his investment with the gain on it while some could decide to stay longer, so many things can be responsible for it, and I think that this time around, the value of bitcoin is just moving the way it should, small pump and corresponding correction, and this is what usually make majority of the traders around to really enter into trade at dip time and then exit the trade at the pump time, so all we should do also is just to study the market and know that every dip is a blessing.

Your answer is very good. I can never predict the value of Bitcoin in this market and everything happens very suddenly so that time will often be very difficult for everyone. In my opinion, if you can analyze this market when volatility, it will be good for yourself because we can predict where the current money is going. Of course, you need a lot of information and you must always watch this market every hour so this is not an easy job.

Maybe this is not necessary but if you can get acquainted, you will have a lot of new investment opportunities because the crypto market is about to move into a bull phase.

[Russlenat]

Obviously there's a manipulation going on here, price would not be so volatile if there is no manipulation and there wouldn't be a dump or a pump that is not expected, just like the recent pump, there was no big news to cause that big pump and therefore it wasn't expected.

In the early stage and until now, there's always a manipulation that is happening and it has become a normal thing for those who understand the market behavior, what we should do is to know more the market movement and go with the flow so it could help us in making the right judgement.

[jootn2kx]

It is probably the safest to assume that market is always being manipulated. With the exchanges, and whales, and centralized projects that are trying to act like real cryptos, it's a mess out there.

[agentx44]

usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.

then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.

so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?

I agree. The whales can be seen as the one making the changes since they are the only ones who can buy large amount of bitcoins right before the halving next year. As time passes by, as bitcoin recovers its value, we should expect the value to go down more instead of going high. As a part of your preparation, you should take the opportunity to buy as many as you can before the halving because the value may become very high in the next few months and you wouldn't want to miss out on it.