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[Lucasgabd]

I'm not sure if we'll see bitcoin fees going way down in the future, at least short term with a lot more activity happening in the network like ordinals and soon runes I think we may see a raise, there's the halving too

But not so long ago, Bitcoin transaction fee rate had dropped below 10 sats/vbyte which was a pretty good fee rate for consolidating inputs.

I don't know, but it's always good to have alternatives with lower fees, like even DOGE or TRX, these are hated by many but can save a lot when moving via L1

Roobet has the alternatives too. Ripple, Tron, Doge, LTC etc. The fees are very negligible. All one has to do is meet the minimum withdrawal amount.

that's true!
roobet accepts several currencies, other casinos too
regarding bitcoin fees, it varies a lot, it's been a while I don't see it at 10 sats/vbyte if you want a fast transaction, went to check https://bitcoinfees.net/ now and with 10 sats/vbyte now it'd take you 24 hours to approve your transaction

sounds ok if you're not in a hurry...

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[FanEagle]

It looks like things are getting worse and worse with the Bitcoin mempool.

Recent days are not worst days in last one year.
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),1y,weight

There are two cool down months February to March before we are witnessing some hype from Ordinals again but they will not stay forever. Bitcoin stays forever, not Ordinals and when they disappear, mempools will be better.

Inscriptions, Mempools and Miners
https://dune.com/dataalways/ordinals
They are back not not aggressively like months ago and you can wait for weekends to get better mempools and fee rates if you really need to move your bitcoins. If you don't hurry, wait for a while, cheaper fee rates will be available.

I do agree that it "felt" like the worst, because we are getting near the halving and everyone expected it to be higher. It is quite low right now and that made people realize that maybe they are not really interested in this situation and they want higher prices, and between paying a lot more and also having lower price at the same time made it s*ck.

When the price goes up, and you also pay more fee, that makes it make sense because it goes up, or when it goes down in price, but you also pay less fee, that makes sense too. But when it goes down both in price but you also end up paying more for fee, that makes people think that we are at a stage where it is not acceptable and that's what I can totally understand, that doesn't feel cool.

[tbct_mt2]

Someone won 131 BTC from Roobet.. They are not paying.

There are suspicions that Roobet manipulated the gameplay error logs which lead to player won that much..

Its about 8 million dollars in bitcoins...

https://casinoguru-en.com/roobet-casino-player-s-winnings-confiscated-due-to

I read that thread on Casinoguru and so far, there is suspicious and skeptical thinking about that user. There is also no final conclusion about the case yet but from what I read, it does not has anything to support the user to claim that winning.

Before the case is finalized by the regulator, it is not right to say either the casino or the user is the winner. Casino guru also recommended that user (if not you) to wait for updates from the regulator. Else you can go with hiring a lawyer to do it, escalate it for you.

I am neutral but it seems evidence shared to Casino guru and regulator, their, so far, thinking is not on that user.

[delfastTions]

Exactly, the current network conditions which are once again congested have caused transaction fees to increase again as happened some time ago and affected withdrawal fees at Roobet to around $10, and of course this is very unpleasant for Bitcoin users, but I think all withdrawal fees at other casinos will increase except for casinos which previously had quite high fees.
Luckily, Roobet has quite a lot of payment types to choose from so that Bitcoin users can temporarily switch to another coin if they want to keep playing, instead of having to pay high fees to make deposits and withdrawals, switching to another coin will be an option for the time being, except for whales, of course they won't be hampered by incurring transaction fees of just a few dollars.

I'm not sure if we'll see bitcoin fees going way down in the future, at least short term with a lot more activity happening in the network like ordinals and soon runes I think we may see a raise, there's the halving too
I don't know, but it's always good to have alternatives with lower fees, like even DOGE or TRX, these are hated by many but can save a lot when moving via L1

It looks like things are getting worse and worse with the Bitcoin mempool.  The reason is in ordilals or some other factors, but commissions of tens and even more than hundreds of dollars are no longer suitable for use in casinos and in gambling in general.  Apparently all casinos will have to gradually reduce the participation of Bitcoin in players’ deposits and they will be forced to switch to cryptocurrency with a small commission.  As a result, there will be two or three coins that will be used the most in the gamblng industry.  Well, for example, Tron, or SOL. 
And Bitcoin, despite the fact that devs Bitcoin Core will not solve the problem of low commissions, will gradually disappear from the gaming industry. 
That's what I think.  In particular, devs Roobet, as the “Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino”, should start choosing the main coin for its business.

I guess it depends on situation since not every time the fees is so high. People nowadays is adaptable on situation so if the fee rise for sure gamblers would find a solution to choose those cheap fees altcoins so they can continue to gamble or participate on any of there activities here. But if the fees of bitcoin return to normal which is really happening they go with bitcoins then gamble using this coin.

That's why its good that they have multiple option since people could choose between what altcoin is suitable for them if issues with network fees will occur. I guess Roobet didn't have any concern about this since maybe they let their players to decide what coin they want to deposit and also I don't think changing will be a problem since I guess many casino still want bitcoin as their main currency since this is famous coin and they don't want to confuse their existing gamblers just for these changes or issue.

The situation after the halving has worsened even more and the addition of the Runes protocol can make the Bitcoin network commissions practically unacceptable for the majority of players in crypto casinos for a long time.
 Of course, this is a common problem for all crypto casinos, not just Roobet, and it will have to be solved somehow. 
As I understand it, the use of LN is almost never used in the gambling business due to the sufficient complexity and associated problems that arise.  And it cannot be a good alternative for Bitcoin payments. 
So it looks like the entire industry will really have to switch to several main altcoins, which, as they are used, will be associated by all players with the cryptocurrency used as the base one in the entire gambling industry. 
Apparently this will happen if the Bitcoin devs community does not make any decisions to ban protocols such as Runes.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Someone won 131 BTC from Roobet.. They are not paying.

There are suspicions that Roobet manipulated the gameplay error logs which lead to player won that much..

Its about 8 million dollars in bitcoins...

https://casinoguru-en.com/roobet-casino-player-s-winnings-confiscated-due-to

I read that thread on Casinoguru and so far, there is suspicious and skeptical thinking about that user. There is also no final conclusion about the case yet but from what I read, it does not has anything to support the user to claim that winning.

Before the case is finalized by the regulator, it is not right to say either the casino or the user is the winner. Casino guru also recommended that user (if not you) to wait for updates from the regulator. Else you can go with hiring a lawyer to do it, escalate it for you.

I am neutral but it seems evidence shared to Casino guru and regulator, their, so far, thinking is not on that user.

131 bitcoins in a single win is outrageous to be honest, I thought casinos used to have some kind of limit to an amount of money a player can win in a single win, just like on stake, it's been a while though but I remember I tried placing a bet on a really high odd mutil - bet game one time, and the system returned an error message telling me that the amount of my potential winning is way higher than the winning limit of the casino, and as such, my bet could not be placed, that I should reduce the amount of money I am staking or remove some games from the multi - bet to reduce the odds.

If Roobet has or had such system in place, there shouldnt be a time when a user will be able to win an amount of money that is way above an amount they can comfortably pay, and issues like this shouldn't arise for what ever reason, except of course, the player manipulated the system into winning such an amount, then such manipulation should be too difficult for the casino to figure out.

Anyways, 131 bitcoins isnt a small amount of money, and I think this is the first time I am seeing that a player won that much from an online casino, I hope they find a way around the issue though.

[tbct_mt2]

131 bitcoins in a single win is outrageous to be honest, I thought casinos used to have some kind of limit to an amount of money a player can win in a single win, just like on stake, it's been a while though but I remember I tried placing a bet on a really high odd mutil - bet game one time, and the system returned an error message telling me that the amount of my potential winning is way higher than the winning limit of the casino, and as such, my bet could not be placed, that I should reduce the amount of money I am staking or remove some games from the multi - bet to reduce the odds.

As far as I read from the case's update, the user who created the accusation seems to fail with it. The moderator on Casino.guru briefed the case, so far, based on evidences of both sides, game logs, it seems the user has very suspicious activities which are not helpful for this accusation.

You can read two latest updates from moderator on this case.

Update 1
Dear JesseJuliano,


This year, the Curacao government is implementing changes to the gambling regulations, which may lead to some delays.


I must point out that, according to the game logs, the gameplay in question appears highly suspicious. I comprehend the casino's skepticism regarding the legitimacy of your results, suspecting possible manipulation or errors. Given the significant amount at stake, it would be advisable to await the regulator's decision. I trust you concur with this course of action, and I can once more mark this case as 'waiting for regulator's decision.'

Update 2
Dear JesseJuliano,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.

With a big company like Roobet, they have a big business and valuable reputation to protect, and I am not surprised that the user was accused with cheating accurately by Roobet.

[Lucasgabd]

Exactly, the current network conditions which are once again congested have caused transaction fees to increase again as happened some time ago and affected withdrawal fees at Roobet to around $10, and of course this is very unpleasant for Bitcoin users, but I think all withdrawal fees at other casinos will increase except for casinos which previously had quite high fees.
Luckily, Roobet has quite a lot of payment types to choose from so that Bitcoin users can temporarily switch to another coin if they want to keep playing, instead of having to pay high fees to make deposits and withdrawals, switching to another coin will be an option for the time being, except for whales, of course they won't be hampered by incurring transaction fees of just a few dollars.

I'm not sure if we'll see bitcoin fees going way down in the future, at least short term with a lot more activity happening in the network like ordinals and soon runes I think we may see a raise, there's the halving too
I don't know, but it's always good to have alternatives with lower fees, like even DOGE or TRX, these are hated by many but can save a lot when moving via L1

It looks like things are getting worse and worse with the Bitcoin mempool.  The reason is in ordilals or some other factors, but commissions of tens and even more than hundreds of dollars are no longer suitable for use in casinos and in gambling in general.  Apparently all casinos will have to gradually reduce the participation of Bitcoin in players’ deposits and they will be forced to switch to cryptocurrency with a small commission.  As a result, there will be two or three coins that will be used the most in the gamblng industry.  Well, for example, Tron, or SOL. 
And Bitcoin, despite the fact that devs Bitcoin Core will not solve the problem of low commissions, will gradually disappear from the gaming industry. 
That's what I think.  In particular, devs Roobet, as the “Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino”, should start choosing the main coin for its business.

I guess it depends on situation since not every time the fees is so high. People nowadays is adaptable on situation so if the fee rise for sure gamblers would find a solution to choose those cheap fees altcoins so they can continue to gamble or participate on any of there activities here. But if the fees of bitcoin return to normal which is really happening they go with bitcoins then gamble using this coin.

That's why its good that they have multiple option since people could choose between what altcoin is suitable for them if issues with network fees will occur. I guess Roobet didn't have any concern about this since maybe they let their players to decide what coin they want to deposit and also I don't think changing will be a problem since I guess many casino still want bitcoin as their main currency since this is famous coin and they don't want to confuse their existing gamblers just for these changes or issue.

The situation after the halving has worsened even more and the addition of the Runes protocol can make the Bitcoin network commissions practically unacceptable for the majority of players in crypto casinos for a long time.
 Of course, this is a common problem for all crypto casinos, not just Roobet, and it will have to be solved somehow. 
As I understand it, the use of LN is almost never used in the gambling business due to the sufficient complexity and associated problems that arise.  And it cannot be a good alternative for Bitcoin payments. 
So it looks like the entire industry will really have to switch to several main altcoins, which, as they are used, will be associated by all players with the cryptocurrency used as the base one in the entire gambling industry. 
Apparently this will happen if the Bitcoin devs community does not make any decisions to ban protocols such as Runes.

large fees are a big problem for small users but not such a big deal for whales
the thing is that small users can always opt for other cheaper chains like doge, tron or others we mentioned here
these casinos offering a wide range of options can be a good thing for all users regardless of the size of their bankroll...

[danadc]

large fees are a big problem for small users but not such a big deal for whales
the thing is that small users can always opt for other cheaper chains like doge, tron or others we mentioned here
these casinos offering a wide range of options can be a good thing for all users regardless of the size of their bankroll...

It seems good to me because there are many things in which we may be willing to withdraw but sometimes it is not possible, I am of that style, I don't usually play with large amounts of money because I don't have that ability, I am a small player, withdraw little, but withdraw, but when the fees are very high I would like them to have almost no mention of Changing to USDT or something so that the fee is not high, this is your option, as the price of bitcoin goes going up, the rates are also going up, that is something we all know, but this can happen that when we are looking for more economy we must know very well which chain we chose, lest there be an error and it costs us much more, until now many are avoided having bitcoin because of the high fees.

[avp2306]

I guess it depends on situation since not every time the fees is so high. People nowadays is adaptable on situation so if the fee rise for sure gamblers would find a solution to choose those cheap fees altcoins so they can continue to gamble or participate on any of there activities here. But if the fees of bitcoin return to normal which is really happening they go with bitcoins then gamble using this coin.

That's why its good that they have multiple option since people could choose between what altcoin is suitable for them if issues with network fees will occur. I guess Roobet didn't have any concern about this since maybe they let their players to decide what coin they want to deposit and also I don't think changing will be a problem since I guess many casino still want bitcoin as their main currency since this is famous coin and they don't want to confuse their existing gamblers just for these changes or issue.

The situation after the halving has worsened even more and the addition of the Runes protocol can make the Bitcoin network commissions practically unacceptable for the majority of players in crypto casinos for a long time.
 Of course, this is a common problem for all crypto casinos, not just Roobet, and it will have to be solved somehow. 
As I understand it, the use of LN is almost never used in the gambling business due to the sufficient complexity and associated problems that arise.  And it cannot be a good alternative for Bitcoin payments. 
So it looks like the entire industry will really have to switch to several main altcoins, which, as they are used, will be associated by all players with the cryptocurrency used as the base one in the entire gambling industry. 
Apparently this will happen if the Bitcoin devs community does not make any decisions to ban protocols such as Runes.

We already overcome the past incident where ordinal contribute a lot before which is the reason why the fee is so high but Bitcoin overcome it so for sure once the Rune Protocol effect will fade out and the network fee will go back to normal. But its also good alternative for them to adopt the Lightning Network since it can somehow save up some people when same situation will come where fees will surge high again and it can save up people to have this option to continue to use bitcoin on their casino. I see Bitcasino integrate the lightning network on their casino and with that people is good to use that and might not worry on something bad happened to the network since they have alternative to use now. Lets just see if Roobet will adopt this since maybe it can make their community happy with this development.

[BlackBoss_]

We already overcome the past incident where ordinal contribute a lot before which is the reason why the fee is so high but Bitcoin overcome it so for sure once the Rune Protocol effect will fade out and the network fee will go back to normal.

Problems are from Ordinals, Runes and over greed people as well as lack of developmental solutions from Bitcoin developers to deal with it. Roobet team and other casino teams have almost nothing to do with this. They can not waive transaction fees, withdrawal fees for their users because it's unknown that how long will this transaction fee crisis last and how much money be enough to support users.

Users have other options, altcoins, to choose so if they can not afford transaction and withdrawal fee with Bitcoin blockchain, choose altcoin blockchains.

But its also good alternative for them to adopt the Lightning Network since it can somehow save up some people when same situation will come where fees will surge high again and it can save up people to have this option to continue to use bitcoin on their casino.

Lightning Network can not help because there are fees to open a Lightning Network channel.

[viljj]

131 bitcoins in a single win is outrageous to be honest, I thought casinos used to have some kind of limit to an amount of money a player can win in a single win, just like on stake, it's been a while though but I remember I tried placing a bet on a really high odd mutil - bet game one time, and the system returned an error message telling me that the amount of my potential winning is way higher than the winning limit of the casino, and as such, my bet could not be placed, that I should reduce the amount of money I am staking or remove some games from the multi - bet to reduce the odds.

As far as I read from the case's update, the user who created the accusation seems to fail with it. The moderator on Casino.guru briefed the case, so far, based on evidences of both sides, game logs, it seems the user has very suspicious activities which are not helpful for this accusation.

You can read two latest updates from moderator on this case.

Update 1
Dear JesseJuliano,


This year, the Curacao government is implementing changes to the gambling regulations, which may lead to some delays.


I must point out that, according to the game logs, the gameplay in question appears highly suspicious. I comprehend the casino's skepticism regarding the legitimacy of your results, suspecting possible manipulation or errors. Given the significant amount at stake, it would be advisable to await the regulator's decision. I trust you concur with this course of action, and I can once more mark this case as 'waiting for regulator's decision.'

Update 2
Dear JesseJuliano,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.

With a big company like Roobet, they have a big business and valuable reputation to protect, and I am not surprised that the user was accused with cheating accurately by Roobet.

I first read that Affiliate was questioning Roobets game log manipulation, but it was towards the players actions.. I wonder how its possible for normal player to manipulate the game the way that he wins for sure. If there is a bug in the Crash game system, why only 1 player got advantage of it? Maybe the player is some sort of hacker, or inside job? lol. You cant cheat an onlinecasino for millions if you are just a regular player.

Also.. Crash game win for millions? Deposit like 5000$. And the plane is still flying when you hit 2 million dollars win, and you are like "im going to keep the plane flying and not cashing out until 3 million"..
Crash game is not any sort of jackpot game anyways..

[delfastTions]

I guess it depends on situation since not every time the fees is so high. People nowadays is adaptable on situation so if the fee rise for sure gamblers would find a solution to choose those cheap fees altcoins so they can continue to gamble or participate on any of there activities here. But if the fees of bitcoin return to normal which is really happening they go with bitcoins then gamble using this coin.

That's why its good that they have multiple option since people could choose between what altcoin is suitable for them if issues with network fees will occur. I guess Roobet didn't have any concern about this since maybe they let their players to decide what coin they want to deposit and also I don't think changing will be a problem since I guess many casino still want bitcoin as their main currency since this is famous coin and they don't want to confuse their existing gamblers just for these changes or issue.

The situation after the halving has worsened even more and the addition of the Runes protocol can make the Bitcoin network commissions practically unacceptable for the majority of players in crypto casinos for a long time.
 Of course, this is a common problem for all crypto casinos, not just Roobet, and it will have to be solved somehow. 
As I understand it, the use of LN is almost never used in the gambling business due to the sufficient complexity and associated problems that arise.  And it cannot be a good alternative for Bitcoin payments. 
So it looks like the entire industry will really have to switch to several main altcoins, which, as they are used, will be associated by all players with the cryptocurrency used as the base one in the entire gambling industry. 
Apparently this will happen if the Bitcoin devs community does not make any decisions to ban protocols such as Runes.

We already overcome the past incident where ordinal contribute a lot before which is the reason why the fee is so high but Bitcoin overcome it so for sure once the Rune Protocol effect will fade out and the network fee will go back to normal. But its also good alternative for them to adopt the Lightning Network since it can somehow save up some people when same situation will come where fees will surge high again and it can save up people to have this option to continue to use bitcoin on their casino. I see Bitcasino integrate the lightning network on their casino and with that people is good to use that and might not worry on something bad happened to the network since they have alternative to use now. Lets just see if Roobet will adopt this since maybe it can make their community happy with this development.

Indeed, if the Bitcoin mempool still allows one to overcome long periods in excess of large commissions, then its use in crypto casinos will naturally continue. 
But due to such surges in commission payments, quite a lot of poor players are lost.  And the casino, accordingly, should not lose its customers, even for some time.  Therefore, most likely, duplicating the payment channel in Bitcoin using LN technology will, of course, benefit players and also allow the casino to maintain the flow of customers at a stable level.  I agree.  Probably many large casinos, such as Roobet, will also begin to use payments via LN.  And although this is apparently not easy to do, it is worth doing one of the first. 
We just don’t know how the Bitcoin network will continue to load. 
Three months in the fall of 2023 showed that these periods may be too long.