malcovi2
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June 30, 2020, 05:45:41 AM |
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I do not know whether it is valid accusation or not but it would be better if roobet come there on the thread to confirm what is going on. So people will not keep on wondering about it, as it may bring big question for some people (existing players or even potential players). I myself still believe that roobet is a honest casino till this time, all previous issues were resolved without any further issue so I hope this one will be resolved as well.
Well, the problem is. The person was kind of a jerk, you can read a few posts on that's a thread how he response and acting. Trying to watch the video by him, he used the old video and suggested to record a new one with a current date. But this jerk habit also on me ~LOL, so let him to solved by himself. I personally don't want really help him right now. Roobet, make a promotion a week more than his money and until now all my transaction not really getting stuck just like him. The problem is the "confirmation" on his case and could be same as me a few months ago. But the difference on this case, he is a jerk, I'm not while waiting for patience for fixed the issue. You can also see how he responded to the support. Yah, his acting like a teenager who hangs around alot in twitch. I dont think Roobet will steal few amounts when they can target bigger players. Been using it awhile no and didnt encounter any problems with Roobet.
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June 30, 2020, 01:30:46 PM |
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No need to be overly fanatic to Roobet or any other casinos. Even a legit big business like Enron can do malicious things. Remember, we have no control over casinos here. What we can say is that we have good experience with Roobet's service up to this moment. Smooth and instant deposit withdrawal with a vast array of slots games and other casino games. Moreover, they have various great contests here!
Anyways, the current accusation was weak, perhaps that's why Roobet's representative just simply ignore him. If the accusation was legit, I believe they will come out and do something about it just like in the past.
Most accusations against Roobet, AFAIK, are just newbies who lost their money and crying lol. It's like they didn't understand "gambling" means.
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June 30, 2020, 02:02:15 PM |
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Alright, no need to pay attention to that accusation as there is not enough evidence yet that Roobet has scammed him. As of now, I have not yet to read a case that Roobet can claim to be a scam. Anyway, to me, that would only depend on a gambler if he relies heavily on a casino. But of course, it is not uncommon for others to think about the risks of such platforms based on past of other casinos. Maybe just avoid comparing it to an old casino because they are not the same. This does not mean that other casinos have become scams and it will be scams as well.
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June 30, 2020, 06:33:35 PM |
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We can't really know if they are making any profit or not but surely they are making a quite good amount of revenue that is correct. Costs of a casino is multi layered and it is different from casino to casino.
You can be a single person operation small time casino that was built and run by a single person without much cost (which won't really go to high) or you could be a company like this which spends money on many many things, which is why I think it is quite important to know what the profit could be for a casino like this when you remove the costs and I could say maybe it is not even profitable, or even if it is it can't be as high as revenue since there is costs. None of these means that they would still scam people out of pennies, they are much bigger and making much more amounts than these and couldn't care less about those type of amounts.
Yeah anything cant really be calculated since this is an internal sort of thing but basing of on what they are currently doing plus the progress of wager volume day by day then you can really presume out that they are really doing well. Its just normal for a company to spend of things as part of the expense on running a business which is normal.It might be costly but they do know that it might be a worthy step to take. That's right, it is normal for any company to have costs and if you would like to profit that costs do get bigger and bigger by time. When you start a regular one man shop you do not spend more than 10k a month on that shop, or maybe you do but that is about it on average, when you are wallmart you spend billions of dollars every single month. This is why roobet which grew from day one to today probably spent more money as well. At the end of the day there is really nothing you can do to calculate if roobet is making a profit or not, but it is obvious that they are making more revenue than the first days, but they are also having a growing amount of revenue as well which means they will keep making more and more. This results with profits either now or maybe eventually, so there is really nothing to worry about for them at all.
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June 30, 2020, 11:53:15 PM |
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Just a quick question:
Why can't I place side bets on the live Blackjack table on Evolution games? Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
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July 01, 2020, 09:47:06 AM |
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Alright, no need to pay attention to that accusation as there is not enough evidence yet that Roobet has scammed him. As of now, I have not yet to read a case that Roobet can claim to be a scam. Anyway, to me, that would only depend on a gambler if he relies heavily on a casino. But of course, it is not uncommon for others to think about the risks of such platforms based on past of other casinos. Maybe just avoid comparing it to an old casino because they are not the same. This does not mean that other casinos have become scams and it will be scams as well.
Yes obviously; there will be accusations towards any and all casinos, it is in the nature of things, people lose money and when they lose money they blame everyone but themselves, normally they should be winning a lot and becoming billionaires but they must have been cheated on a house edge provably fair situation to lose it all otherwise they wouldn't. Yah, his acting like a teenager who hangs around alot in twitch.
Now why you gotta bring twitch into this . I like twitch and I am on the older side of things, I just do not have both the money (being a married old dude keeps you from spending too much on games) and the time to play a game, whereas watching someone do it for me instead is quicker (live but if not you can watch past broadcasts) and connecting with other people who like the same things is fun if you are not in a 10k+ channel but a 100 view channel.
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July 01, 2020, 04:06:51 PM |
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Why can't I place side bets on the live Blackjack table on Evolution games? Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
You need to see a few things. - Did you have a balance?
- You need to see the minimum and maximum balance can be bet.
Each blackjack table have their own rules, some of them can provide unlimited player if you want to be more specific for the rules of each table you should click the "i" button on the table list before joined the table.
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July 01, 2020, 04:46:39 PM |
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Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
Where did you find this number? Was it the one that you see once you open the Blackjack game by Evolution which is located on the top right next to the "Show Chat" button? If so, IMO it is a total number of online players who play the game worldwide since Evolution is one of gaming providers where you can find it on hundreds or even thousands online casinos out there. So that number does not show the number of online players from roobet only. Correct me if I'm wrong about it.
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July 01, 2020, 08:09:56 PM |
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^ @StephenJH Could you be mistaking it with 57 people instead of 57k? Because I just checked after I read your message and there was 49 people, which tells me 57 is more likely outcome than 57k. I mean lets be honest 57k is just plain wrong, that is for sure and I do not think that there is any website, casino, anything even if it is mainstream like pokerstars and so forth, do not have 57 THOUSAND people playing there, that's just surreal.
Roobet has a good amount of people gambling at any given moment and by no means they are an empty place, there is always 40+ people for sure in any time zone, so they do not get empty for certain hours and crowded in certain hours, you can go to roobet at any moment and there will be people playing there. However not FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND people, that would be impossible to handle all that traffic.
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StephenJH
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July 01, 2020, 11:40:27 PM |
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Why can't I place side bets on the live Blackjack table on Evolution games? Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
You need to see a few things. - Did you have a balance?
- You need to see the minimum and maximum balance can be bet.
Each blackjack table have their own rules, some of them can provide unlimited player if you want to be more specific for the rules of each table you should click the "i" button on the table list before joined the table. 1) Yes, of course 2) No one can place side bets without betting on the main hand. I know each table has specific rules on unlimited Balkcajck games and I have played Blackjack on same table on different websites. That is why I compared Pinnacle and mentioned awkward questions that spin in my mind Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
Where did you find this number? Was it the one that you see once you open the Blackjack game by Evolution which is located on the top right next to the "Show Chat" button? If so, IMO it is a total number of online players who play the game worldwide since Evolution is one of gaming providers where you can find it on hundreds or even thousands online casinos out there. So that number does not show the number of online players from roobet only. Correct me if I'm wrong about it. Yes, at the right side of window for pc, for mobile users at the bottom of the browser. I don't think so, the difference is big and noticeable. ^ @StephenJH Could you be mistaking it with 57 people instead of 57k? Because I just checked after I read your message and there was 49 people, which tells me 57 is more likely outcome than 57k. I mean lets be honest 57k is just plain wrong, that is for sure and I do not think that there is any website, casino, anything even if it is mainstream like pokerstars and so forth, do not have 57 THOUSAND people playing there, that's just surreal.
Roobet has a good amount of people gambling at any given moment and by no means they are an empty place, there is always 40+ people for sure in any time zone, so they do not get empty for certain hours and crowded in certain hours, you can go to roobet at any moment and there will be people playing there. However not FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND people, that would be impossible to handle all that traffic.
Maybe you have checked one table and this is a normal average for a single table. Check here: First is Pinnacle account and second SS is from Roobet: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On unlimited tables, even 1 million people can bet at the same time because AI handles all that traffic less than 20 seconds which equates to every player.
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July 02, 2020, 03:21:27 AM |
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in op it says play anonymously but in my account it has place to upload documents. is it really anonymous or do you need copy of my id to cashout?
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in op it says play anonymously but in my account it has place to upload documents. is it really anonymous or do you need copy of my id to cashout?
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July 02, 2020, 02:24:15 PM |
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Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
Where did you find this number? Was it the one that you see once you open the Blackjack game by Evolution which is located on the top right next to the "Show Chat" button? If so, IMO it is a total number of online players who play the game worldwide since Evolution is one of gaming providers where you can find it on hundreds or even thousands online casinos out there. So that number does not show the number of online players from roobet only. Correct me if I'm wrong about it. Yes, at the right side of window for pc, for mobile users at the bottom of the browser. I don't think so, the difference is big and noticeable. Didn't you notice that there is also difference in case of the available games? Based on your screenshot of the pinnacle there are: Top Games, Roulette, Blackjack, Baccarat, Poker, Game Shows And on roobet there are some more categories such as Sic Bo, Native Roulette, Dual Play. IMO this is the one that make the difference of the online users number is big because pinnacle do not take the all games by Evolution. All in all I still believe that the number we are talking about is the number of online users worldwide. I did check the one on Fortunejack, the difference is not that big.
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in op it says play anonymously but in my account it has place to upload documents. is it really anonymous or do you need copy of my id to cashout?
I can cash out without uploading such documents. I think it's because I only withdrew a small amount of money. If you just want to play, let's say <$100 no one will bother to ask your KYC. Disclaimer: I have no control over the site, so it might not work for you. DWYOR!
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in op it says play anonymously but in my account it has place to upload documents. is it really anonymous or do you need copy of my id to cashout?
Well, it is common to a gambling site that has required KYC if you are wanted to withdraw a huge amount. But if that is a small amount, KYC is not needed just like what @mu_enrico said above, there is no problem with the small amount. Perhaps you did not read the AML Policy of Roobet. Read this carefully and perhaps you skipped this before you posted it here.
Step three verification: AML 2
Step three verification, verification of the source of funds, must be done by every user which deposit over 5000$ (five thousand Dollar) or withdraws over 5000$ (five thousand Dollar) or sends another user over 3000$ (three thousand Dollar), over the period of 24 months.
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July 03, 2020, 05:37:03 PM |
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Maybe you have checked one table and this is a normal average for a single table. Check here: First is Pinnacle account and second SS is from Roobet: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On unlimited tables, even 1 million people can bet at the same time because AI handles all that traffic less than 20 seconds which equates to every player. Jesus Christ it really shows that! I thought I was looking at the right page, but now that I am looking at the page you suggested it really shows like that. Maybe it is like a combination of places and the combined number? Because, that seems like the only reasonable explanation to this, I doubt roobet would ever get 20k+ people on their website but when I check that page it shows 21k now. It is really weird, I think they are probably showing number of players on the providers page and all the other places that uses the same provider, so if that is the combination of all the places that uses the same provider, that means that could be 20k+ it makes total sense and totally believable. But if this is roobet claiming that they have 20k+ , that is something really weird and something they would have to prove somehow.
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July 03, 2020, 06:50:53 PM Last edit: July 09, 2020, 10:12:08 PM by StephenJH |
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Maybe you have checked one table and this is a normal average for a single table. Check here: First is Pinnacle account and second SS is from Roobet: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On unlimited tables, even 1 million people can bet at the same time because AI handles all that traffic less than 20 seconds which equates to every player. Jesus Christ it really shows that! I thought I was looking at the right page, but now that I am looking at the page you suggested it really shows like that. Maybe it is like a combination of places and the combined number? Because, that seems like the only reasonable explanation to this, I doubt roobet would ever get 20k+ people on their website but when I check that page it shows 21k now. It is really weird, I think they are probably showing number of players on the providers page and all the other places that uses the same provider, so if that is the combination of all the places that uses the same provider, that means that could be 20k+ it makes total sense and totally believable. But if this is roobet claiming that they have 20k+ , that is something really weird and something they would have to prove somehow. I asked this question because I have seen the similar situation on the different gambling platforms. The access shouldn't be easy for all unregulated or regulated casinos, the conditions for joining have to be different based on the reputation of specific casinos, IMHO. I know one casino which uses the copied data of other website and the same logic can be applied. After the disconnection from live game table, the new page forwards me to the different domains which is weird. Btw, there are more than 57000 online players from Roobet which is impossible, is there any "merge" with other casinos(sharing the pool)? I ask because the Pinnacle sports has the 13000 max online players at the same time, I don't think the users of Pinnacle is less than Roobet.
Where did you find this number? Was it the one that you see once you open the Blackjack game by Evolution which is located on the top right next to the "Show Chat" button? If so, IMO it is a total number of online players who play the game worldwide since Evolution is one of gaming providers where you can find it on hundreds or even thousands online casinos out there. So that number does not show the number of online players from roobet only. Correct me if I'm wrong about it. Yes, at the right side of window for pc, for mobile users at the bottom of the browser. I don't think so, the difference is big and noticeable. Didn't you notice that there is also difference in case of the available games? Based on your screenshot of the pinnacle there are: Top Games, Roulette, Blackjack, Baccarat, Poker, Game Shows And on roobet there are some more categories such as Sic Bo, Native Roulette, Dual Play. IMO this is the one that make the difference of the online users number is big because pinnacle do not take the all games by Evolution. All in all I still believe that the number we are talking about is the number of online users worldwide. I did check the one on Fortunejack, the difference is not that big. If the total number of players on the provider is equal, why the difference is so big? I am sure even if some of Blackjack tables are delisted from the mentioned websites, the difference have to be around ~200 max ~300 not in thousands. Convince me if you think otherwise.
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July 03, 2020, 07:43:17 PM |
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If the total number of players on the provider is equal, why the difference is so big?
Seems that you do not understand my previous post correctly. The number of players on provider is obviously equal as it uses the same server (Evolutiongaming). But the number shown on each sites can be different depends on how many games and how many tables are provided by the sites. I suggest you to compare more sites that provides Evolution games such as fortunejack. Do not only watch the total number of online players but also check the provided games. 1 missing table/game may give some difference already. OK I think it is enough to talk about this, I still in my opinion that the number is a number of online player worldwide based on the provided games by each site.
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Alright, no need to pay attention to that accusation as there is not enough evidence yet that Roobet has scammed him. As of now, I have not yet to read a case that Roobet can claim to be a scam. Anyway, to me, that would only depend on a gambler if he relies heavily on a casino. But of course, it is not uncommon for others to think about the risks of such platforms based on past of other casinos. Maybe just avoid comparing it to an old casino because they are not the same. This does not mean that other casinos have become scams and it will be scams as well.
We still didn't manage to get roobet to talk about this? I mean that would be the important part because they are the only ones who can give a proper response to it, we can assume and assume all day and all night long and even one guy is already bored from talking about it, yet roobet hasn't responded with anything just yet. This should either be over when all of us feel bored about the subject which I feel like I won't for a little more while, or it should be over when roobet actually comes in and talks about the situation. I think if we can PM them or just tell them on support or anywhere to come here and read the numbers and just give us a response, they might realize something is going on here and they will come here to respond to it as well, not sure if they would want to but it worths a shot.
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July 05, 2020, 03:22:07 PM Last edit: July 05, 2020, 05:25:04 PM by ryzaadit |
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Before roobet response to the issue, the victim needs to provide the problem with the current date. Just skipped this assumption dude, he already said no need community to help them. So, let this case go and just mark the case only for a bunch a troll who wants to destroy some reputation casino. If you help them, wait until he saying to you stupid and other things XD. I already don't want to help him, also other people too. Keep talking about his problem, only make him a fame.
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