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All users pay the same withdrawal fee (miners fee only).. $6.15 (BTC) vs $0.32 (ETH) here right now..
Bitcoin network has been overloaded for the past few days, so be patient and wait a few more days to request a withdraw (if you want to save some money)..
Bitcoin network will get better size soon. I check mempool and see it has smaller size than yesterday. The ETH network is back to normal, with low transaction cost. Today you can have average transaction speed with 23.4 Gwei. It is not bad. If the bitcoin mempool won't get better next 2 days, you can wait for next difficulty adjustment. Right now fee's in the blockchain is a lot as well, that is why it looks like it is a lot in roobet too, it doesn't "have to" change because it is not looking all that great for a while and probably will be like that for a while as well. Not saying it will always be six bucks but it is going to be more than we are comfortable paying for, aka few dollars at least for the foreseeable future. However none of this has anything to do with roobet unfortunately, it is all about the transaction fee's in the bitcoin world right now, I would say switching to something else would be a lot better for you. I have been using eth once again for a while, it is not great neither but at least for 0.5 cents I could wait 12 hours and get any transaction I want and that is not bad at all considering I am not in a rush.
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October 29, 2020, 04:25:18 PM |
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All users pay the same withdrawal fee (miners fee only).. $6.15 (BTC) vs $0.32 (ETH) here right now.. Bitcoin network has been overloaded for the past few days, so be patient and wait a few more days to request a withdraw (if you want to save some money).. Ow, just seen it upon checking. I'm surprised about that. It's currently at $6.98 for BTC, and for ETH, $1.26... this is quite high compared from the past. I wonder what happened why Roobet increased the withdrawal fee, are these fees are fixed this time? Did the spike on mempool's size caused this spike on withdrawal fees on Roobet too? I hope it will become much lower, $7 for me is much for small withdrawal inputs.
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October 29, 2020, 04:58:02 PM |
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All users pay the same withdrawal fee (miners fee only).. $6.15 (BTC) vs $0.32 (ETH) here right now.. Bitcoin network has been overloaded for the past few days, so be patient and wait a few more days to request a withdraw (if you want to save some money).. Ow, just seen it upon checking. I'm surprised about that. It's currently at $6.98 for BTC, and for ETH, $1.26... this is quite high compared from the past. I wonder what happened why Roobet increased the withdrawal fee, are these fees are fixed this time? Did the spike on mempool's size caused this spike on withdrawal fees on Roobet too? I hope it will become much lower, $7 for me is much for small withdrawal inputs. AFAIK withdrawal fees on roobet is always based on the latest situation on the network. So they do not charge fixed amount, this is to make sure that all withdrawal will be confirmed in the next block. It will be lower when bitcoin network is normal, so if you do not want to spend that much for your withdrawal then it is better to wait till the network back to normal. Or if 7$ is too much then better to choose ETH for your withdrawal as you are charged cheaper fee.
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October 29, 2020, 05:19:04 PM |
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AFAIK withdrawal fees on roobet is always based on the latest situation on the network. So they do not charge fixed amount, this is to make sure that all withdrawal will be confirmed in the next block. It will be lower when bitcoin network is normal, so if you do not want to spend that much for your withdrawal then it is better to wait till the network back to normal. Or if 7$ is too much then better to choose ETH for your withdrawal as you are charged cheaper fee.
A few days ago I sent btc and the transaction got stuck because the network was high or traffic was heavy when the price was going up, at a cost that was quite expensive it would jam as far as I know but if it returns to normal I better use btc for withdrawals for me the thing also with ETH or other altcoins fast in its transactions. The same thing is also in Roobet, surely this will jam if you withdraw it with BTC.
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October 29, 2020, 05:53:21 PM |
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All users pay the same withdrawal fee (miners fee only).. $6.15 (BTC) vs $0.32 (ETH) here right now.. Bitcoin network has been overloaded for the past few days, so be patient and wait a few more days to request a withdraw (if you want to save some money).. Ow, just seen it upon checking. I'm surprised about that. It's currently at $6.98 for BTC, and for ETH, $1.26... this is quite high compared from the past. I wonder what happened why Roobet increased the withdrawal fee, are these fees are fixed this time? Did the spike on mempool's size caused this spike on withdrawal fees on Roobet too? I hope it will become much lower, $7 for me is much for small withdrawal inputs. AFAIK withdrawal fees on roobet is always based on the latest situation on the network. So they do not charge fixed amount, this is to make sure that all withdrawal will be confirmed in the next block. It will be lower when bitcoin network is normal, so if you do not want to spend that much for your withdrawal then it is better to wait till the network back to normal. Or if 7$ is too much then better to choose ETH for your withdrawal as you are charged cheaper fee. As you mention, in a couple of days, situation will be more normal and than fees will again be back to around 0.5$. Sometimes, you just play with BTC and as there is no internal swap feature, you need to stick with BTC.
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October 29, 2020, 08:32:56 PM |
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As you mention, in a couple of days, situation will be more normal and than fees will again be back to around 0.5$. Sometimes, you just play with BTC and as there is no internal swap feature, you need to stick with BTC.
The last time I withdraw in Roobet the fee was $2.70+ and I checked it today it increased more than 2 fold at around $7. Btw, I am about to play today when I checked the transaction fee for BTC is quite high so I need to wait for some time until the BTC network is not congested. It is really a bit frustrating when the BTC network is congested since the transaction fee will skyrocket.
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October 29, 2020, 08:36:17 PM |
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All users pay the same withdrawal fee (miners fee only).. $6.15 (BTC) vs $0.32 (ETH) here right now.. Bitcoin network has been overloaded for the past few days, so be patient and wait a few more days to request a withdraw (if you want to save some money).. Ow, just seen it upon checking. I'm surprised about that. It's currently at $6.98 for BTC, and for ETH, $1.26... this is quite high compared from the past. I wonder what happened why Roobet increased the withdrawal fee, are these fees are fixed this time? Did the spike on mempool's size caused this spike on withdrawal fees on Roobet too? I hope it will become much lower, $7 for me is much for small withdrawal inputs. As previously discussed by members where the fees aren't fixed and does depend on the network situation where if there are lots of unconfirmed ones or pending then expect that fees will surely increase and this hadn't been a new issue. Roobet has nothing to do with fees that they are increasing it for themselves yet they do charge as minimal as they can and theres nothing we can do on the current situation. $7 is indeed a pain in the ass fee if you have been playing with 10's bucks or even on hundreds.
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October 29, 2020, 09:10:36 PM |
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YES! Fees aren't static ones rather it's dynamic ones. A new user obviously get shocked by facing this sort of weird things, on Roobet right now it's asked $6.38 transaction fees for just $10 withdrawal. Anyway, I did never perform such fees most of time stick between $0.40-$0.45 that is entirely sensible for me. As far as I know, a newly created account on Roobet has higher withdrawal fee... this one is applicable to the account who has not yet placinig any bet on any games on the site. This is based from my experience, I noticed it when I visit the withdrawal option... So if you want to withdraw your funds, be sure to place bet first, any amount will do I think, otherwise the fee is greater than 1 USD. I don't know if this is the correct logic, but that's what I'd experienced. It doesnt matter if you are a new or older player because this isnt something a benefit or a feature where everyone would really be experiencing some difference towards their withdrawal fees and as mentioned on when the market is loaded then expect for fees to go that high.Someone who had been get used to less that $1 fee will really get shocked when they havent experienced those absurd fees before when theres a market network being clogged. So its for everybody and theres no exception for this one.
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October 29, 2020, 09:55:03 PM |
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That 2.24 million multiplier is insane, it's huge yet I doubt anyone to manually or auto cashout before the near of that multiplier, but why not if they have courage. Yeah, I noticed also that Danslip and Harkorede are frequently winning that such high number of multiplier. I've seen them from the contest for highest multipliers on crash recently on games and rounds. I've also seen a multiplier of 14,000+ recently on crash, I thought that was the highest, but thanks for sharing that 2 million multiplier, it's crazy. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Unbelievable? Even I can not believe in such a high multiplier as others say it is possible. That was the highest I have ever seen, and in any kind of gambling, I have never seen such a multiplier. That's it, no one won. And I think no one wants such a multi because at first, they did not think it could reach such a height. Even if you step on hundreds, you will be able to press cash out. It is very hard to resist tempting blood in vein after reaching 5000x multiplier in crash based games. Unlike slots, the result after some point depends on the single click and each added number on the multiplier increases the chance of getting busted. Probably, in a day the crash goes over 2000x a few times but crossing the 10000x usually happens 10-20 times in a week from my humble estimation.
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October 30, 2020, 05:47:35 AM |
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Its a dynamic one where it do changes out when network goes back to normal.We have see that the market or btc itself did really have some rise which do affect its fees which is pretty usual stuff that you can see anytime.$6.85 transaction fee is really too much but you can opt out on playing with ETH yet its one of the best options to do now or just pay up and stick with Bitcoin.Your choice! but one things for sure that fees arent static ones.
Yes it looks like that's the only way we could skip this transaction fee. Thanks for the advice
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Ow, just seen it upon checking. I'm surprised about that. It's currently at $6.98 for BTC, and for ETH, $1.26... this is quite high compared from the past. I wonder what happened why Roobet increased the withdrawal fee, are these fees are fixed this time?
Did the spike on mempool's size caused this spike on withdrawal fees on Roobet too? I hope it will become much lower, $7 for me is much for small withdrawal inputs.
Yes indeed. The withdrawal fee has increased because the network is congested as of now and people are paying more than the standard transaction fees to get their transactions confirmed. Even I went for a withdrawal today and noticed that the withdrawal fees is $7. I just closed the tab on my PC seeing the withdrawal fees ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It's obvious, I can't pay a fee of $7 to withdraw $57 right. We will just have to wait until the network is less congested and the fees comes back to normal.
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I understand your concern perhaps more than you imagine, in fact many players are very active moving their winnings at certain times, for whatever reasons, even the simplest "I want to get my money, my winnings" the reason does not matter. And I'm sure that from the casino (anyone) you withdraw today, for whatever reason in the future you are depositing again. But it is also important to know that these amounts set, far from being something pejorative in the "majority" of the casinos, is something circumstantial related to the price of bitcoin at certain times. The above led me to create a thread of some casinos in August for this reason I leave you the history of Roobet until my last update: Now your case as I mentioned in the post is a simple guide to get an idea of the changes that these fees entail due to the price-network effect. We all suffer, I am trying deposit in another casino, I need it to arrive before October 31, although I did it on October 28 still remains unconfirmed, it may be solved in hours or it may arrive on November 1 (maybe if i'm lucky ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) ) and I lose the goal of that deposit, with this I want to tell you that we are all affected in many ways. For that reason the casinos at this time have high fees so as not to have players waiting for many hours or days for their withdrawals. Unfortunately this affects withdrawals that are not at least 10 times the amount of the fee, the minimum sacrifice ratio that I would be willing to bear at least in my case to make a withdrawal without waiting for the fees to go down. G.B.
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October 31, 2020, 09:41:37 AM |
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I don't know if others casino can so that but I can only say what I'm sure about cause it something i have seen and it logical for every casino to pay the 3rd parties game according to the players multipliers but the game that bought this subject was crash which is the game operated by the house not the 3rd parties and there barely casino which can allow 200K plus multipliers.
If you talked about the multiplier crash who reached x200K, other casinos still can happen too. Every casino using the same provably fair from SHA-256, so the same situation could be happening on other casinos too. Take one of the example from "CoinDragon" even not a game like a crash but still can be the same as crash because their game was X-Factor, some player successfully wins with 1 million multipliers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221321.msg55435981#msg55435981Nothing was impossible. Not everyone has to gamble for the "as high as it gets" type of deal, obviously if you keep doing it forever (probably with use of an automatic betting bot on a VPS not to strain your pc) you could find few a day and hope that it profits you more frequently than your losses. However I think 1.01 cash out is as legit as 1000x cash out, they are basically the same thing in my mind, both of them have the same idea that you are not going to make as much profit when you win as you lose because there is a house edge. One of them constantly wins tiny and loses big in the end, one of them loses tiny and wins big in the end, all comes down to house edge of course. Hence, why I think there could be billions and billions in multiplier and as long as there is house edge it doesn't "sound" that different from anything else to me.
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October 31, 2020, 02:03:52 PM |
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Ow, just seen it upon checking. I'm surprised about that. It's currently at $6.98 for BTC, and for ETH, $1.26... this is quite high compared from the past. I wonder what happened why Roobet increased the withdrawal fee, are these fees are fixed this time?
Did the spike on mempool's size caused this spike on withdrawal fees on Roobet too? I hope it will become much lower, $7 for me is much for small withdrawal inputs.
Yes indeed. The withdrawal fee has increased because the network is congested as of now and people are paying more than the standard transaction fees to get their transactions confirmed. Even I went for a withdrawal today and noticed that the withdrawal fees is $7. I just closed the tab on my PC seeing the withdrawal fees ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It's obvious, I can't pay a fee of $7 to withdraw $57 right. We will just have to wait until the network is less congested and the fees comes back to normal. I understand what you feel when you have to pay more than 10% of your withdrawal for the fee. I wont be worry to pay $7 if my withdrawal is thousands dollar I believe it is the time for roobet to consider to add more currencies with lower fee but faster confirmation such as TRX, DOGE, or XRP. Although the fee for ETH is cheaper but there are some players who do not even want to pay more than a dollar for the fee especially small players who want to withdraw the $10-50 Or probably roobet change the withdrawal fees into a fixed one or even offer free withdrawal fee for promotion especially in this kind of situation so it will be very helpful for players.
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October 31, 2020, 07:25:34 PM |
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^Casinos do not charge as much as some of the exchanges, exchanges have a guaranteed profit with the trading fee yet they still charge more than the casinos that you could get in, bet 10 bitcoin on 2x on dice and see if you are lucky, maybe win and withdraw 20 bitcoin in return. Definitely we all know there are not that many of them around and usually you end up losing money but at least there is a "possibility" of casino losing money whereas exchanges do not have that possibility, exchanges do not risk any money, yet they still end up with higher withdraw rates.
In the end we are talking about something important on blockchain tech here and not on roobet, when blockchain is so clogged that you have to pay 5 or more dollars to get your money before 1 hour, that is something bad on blockchain itself and not on any casino.
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November 01, 2020, 05:59:50 PM |
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Roobet doesn't charge a flat fee for withdrawals. It changes according to network status. So it's normal (expected) to see such high amounts when the network is cloged. Anyway, it seems that things went back to normal since the withdrawal fee just dropped to as low as $1.69.
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November 01, 2020, 06:43:51 PM |
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Roobet doesn't charge a flat fee for withdrawals. It changes according to network status. So it's normal (expected) to see such high amounts when the network is cloged. Anyway, it seems that things went back to normal since the withdrawal fee just dropped to as low as $1.69.
Its currently charging up $0.72 Transaction Fee as of this writing which is anticipated yet the entire network isnt overloaded anymore. For someone who do ask about fees then this is a prove out that they arent really fixing up fees.It all matters with the network condition. Can we stop on talking about withdrawal fees? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 01, 2020, 09:36:17 PM |
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^Casinos do not charge as much as some of the exchanges, exchanges have a guaranteed profit with the trading fee yet they still charge more than the casinos that you could get in, bet 10 bitcoin on 2x on dice and see if you are lucky, maybe win and withdraw 20 bitcoin in return. Definitely we all know there are not that many of them around and usually you end up losing money but at least there is a "possibility" of casino losing money whereas exchanges do not have that possibility, exchanges do not risk any money, yet they still end up with higher withdraw rates.
In the end we are talking about something important on blockchain tech here and not on roobet, when blockchain is so clogged that you have to pay 5 or more dollars to get your money before 1 hour, that is something bad on blockchain itself and not on any casino.
The reason why there is so much difference between some other business' that wants you to pay for the fee is not only blockchain it is also because they do not see you as a returning customer all that well and they are not going to suddenly make 30+ bucks from you, you are going to have to pay that for those companies. However do you know why casinos try their best to keep you? It is the same logic as why bread is usually something big supermarkets lose money from, they want you to get in and buy stuff like bread and egg and they lose money on that because it is so cheap, but you also end up buying other stuff there that makes them a lot more profit than the money they lost on bread. Same with casinos, they want to give you as many things for free as they can, as long as you stay and end up losing money in the long run.
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November 01, 2020, 10:41:47 PM |
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Roobet doesn't charge a flat fee for withdrawals. It changes according to network status. So it's normal (expected) to see such high amounts when the network is cloged. Anyway, it seems that things went back to normal since the withdrawal fee just dropped to as low as $1.69.
There are always advantage and disadvantage for any types of withdrawal fee including the one which is used by roobet. The advantage comes when the network is good because players will be charged low fee, and the disadvantage comes when there is network congestion because players will be charged high fee. The best thing to do by players to avoid high fee is waiting for the network back to normal, of course waiting is something we do not like especially if we need the money as fast as possible.
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November 01, 2020, 10:47:05 PM |
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Roobet doesn't charge a flat fee for withdrawals. It changes according to network status. So it's normal (expected) to see such high amounts when the network is cloged. Anyway, it seems that things went back to normal since the withdrawal fee just dropped to as low as $1.69.
There are always advantage and disadvantage for any types of withdrawal fee including the one which is used by roobet. The advantage comes when the network is good because players will be charged low fee, and the disadvantage comes when there is network congestion because players will be charged high fee. The best thing to do by players to avoid high fee is waiting for the network back to normal, of course waiting is something we do not like especially if we need the money as fast as possible. Obviously, waiting for low network fees can be waste of time because the volatile crypto market doesn't want to calm down all day. The feasible solution is to use chips balance and let the user choose which way it is affordable to request a withdrawal. ETH fees were over $2 a few weeks ago due to DEFI transactions, the same thing has happened for BTC transactions. Maybe it is time to use "chip balance" or adding an option to exchange altcoins which is faster and cheaper.
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