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January 09, 2020, 09:30:05 AM
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If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
loses gambling and he asks for our help (need money) to continue the losing bets and he hopes his money will come back (if he wins)? It seems I will think again in giving him help (money), but if it's just a suggestion I would be happy to give it.

Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?
Yes, I've felt that and I've been in a position like that asking for help to my friend with the reason to recover a losing bet. In the end my friend never gave me help because of reasons for gambling.
so whatever happens when betting in gambling we must accept all the risks including a major loss that can not be recovered.
I think you agree to give money to gamblers for continuing their gambling after losing their money because you yourself a gambler and have faced that condition in the past and you have the hope that a person can earn money in gambling but it is not an sure to anyone that anyone can recover his lost money that is why many people do not give any loan to a person who want to gamble with it to recover his loses.
I'm not saying I agree, because I've experienced it. so I won't help him if someone has a fate like me. even offering a loan I wouldn't want to do that.
at that time I finally gave up because there was nothing I could do to recover my loss. if now there are people who experience it like that, let it go, let him know it feels in conditions like what I experienced.
once again I say that I do not agree, do not make assumptions that are contrary to me!
my advice is better to focus on following the campaign or looking for work in the real world, if there really is a desire to recover loss.

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January 09, 2020, 10:14:51 AM
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many ways to recover losses  ? he can work on his own to earn and not borrow someone else money   because that makes him lazy but almost majority of gamblers are dont have a work but they are the ones that have the guts to borrow money while us that have work are the ones that are scared or doubting to borrow money even if we have the ability to pay  .  if a person has a different reason and he is sincere when he say it , i guess its okay to lend him something  .
Yes this is true, he need to work for his own money, as what I have said before , gambler will always find a way to gamble, and when the time you will only lend him some money, it can only make his situation worst, he needed to work hard for him to get money again, and when he do that he starting to realized many things, especially in handling money, his mind can change as well , as time passes by.
Indeed he should help his self to earn money not by borrowing just to gamble. No one could lend him money for him to gamble, it makes him lazy and thinks that it's easy to have the money. A person should have discipline when to stop to play once suffer losses. No one could help him but himself.

I agree with you, if it is not from yourself who wants to change, no matter how other people advise, it won't work.
Addiction can only be stopped when you realize the mistakes that have been made.
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January 09, 2020, 11:44:59 AM
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many ways to recover losses  ? he can work on his own to earn and not borrow someone else money   because that makes him lazy but almost majority of gamblers are dont have a work but they are the ones that have the guts to borrow money while us that have work are the ones that are scared or doubting to borrow money even if we have the ability to pay  .  if a person has a different reason and he is sincere when he say it , i guess its okay to lend him something  .

You borrow money for emergencies. You need to eat, sleep, live, pay for rent,,, then okay fine. But to borrow money to pay for another debt? It will bring you into even more ruin. This is the folly of rent, of debt, of interest.

It is all a bad cycle of psychology and mentality. Live small, and modest. Gamble for fun, and stay away from fantasy.

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January 09, 2020, 11:45:24 AM
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Don't lend him is the mind set of most of the people here and I agree with that too.No one should ever gamble with lend money or until they go bankrupt of their total saving if they do then no one will ever backup them for doing the same thing because the possible result will be complete loss again.
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January 09, 2020, 11:48:13 AM
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It all depends on the intention of borrowing money,if its for food then giving ir right choice but for recovering all the loss he made earlier then try to stay away from that user because he will never realze that he will lose more and more money if he plays gambling games to make money.
There are no exceptions to the problem, whatever the reason it will not be accepted because he should have realized what a great risk that will make him suffer. No one will support you to become a beggar, because there are many ways to recover losses and you must be smart to get out of any suffering.

many ways to recover losses  ? he can work on his own to earn and not borrow someone else money   because that makes him lazy but almost majority of gamblers are dont have a work but they are the ones that have the guts to borrow money while us that have work are the ones that are scared or doubting to borrow money even if we have the ability to pay  .  if a person has a different reason and he is sincere when he say it , i guess its okay to lend him something  .
but it is not easy to find work nowadays mate,there are so many jobless in the world(yeah some of them are lazy and some are too confident)but many of them wanted to have a job but cant really find one.

so those ways to recover?sometimes it depends on luck also,if youa re lucky to find job that fits you or even any job that will feed you and let you pay small amount each time to the people who lend you.









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January 09, 2020, 12:31:35 PM
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I agree with you, if it is not from yourself who wants to change, no matter how other people advise, it won't work.
Addiction can only be stopped when you realize the mistakes that have been made.

Right, without realizing the addiction, we will go to deeper to that way, and we will not find how to stop or solve the addiction. We need to stop the addicting no matter what because once we addicted to gambling, there is no way out for us to end the addicting unless you try. So when someone asks you to help him to lend your money, you need to know what for the money, and if that money is used for gambling, then you should say no to him.

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January 09, 2020, 12:48:20 PM
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Don't lend him is the mind set of most of the people here and I agree with that too.No one should ever gamble with lend money or until they go bankrupt of their total saving if they do then no one will ever backup them for doing the same thing because the possible result will be complete loss again.
Indeed, lending money to a gambler who suffered losses is like letting him gamble again to chase back what they lost and worse repeat the same mistakes again. Words of encouragement to stop is enough help to someone who lose their money to gambling thats how they will realize they are wrong for playing without discipline and limitation.

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January 09, 2020, 12:52:49 PM
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many ways to recover losses  ? he can work on his own to earn and not borrow someone else money   because that makes him lazy but almost majority of gamblers are dont have a work but they are the ones that have the guts to borrow money while us that have work are the ones that are scared or doubting to borrow money even if we have the ability to pay  .  if a person has a different reason and he is sincere when he say it , i guess its okay to lend him something  .
Yes this is true, he need to work for his own money, as what I have said before , gambler will always find a way to gamble, and when the time you will only lend him some money, it can only make his situation worst, he needed to work hard for him to get money again, and when he do that he starting to realized many things, especially in handling money, his mind can change as well , as time passes by.
Indeed he should help his self to earn money not by borrowing just to gamble. No one could lend him money for him to gamble, it makes him lazy and thinks that it's easy to have the money. A person should have discipline when to stop to play once suffer losses. No one could help him but himself.

I agree with you, if it is not from yourself who wants to change, no matter how other people advise, it won't work.
Addiction can only be stopped when you realize the mistakes that have been made.

It is not that other people's advice won't work, it still depends on you. It is all on you but still you need their help. Addiction is not something that you can deal with yourself, you need help from your family, your friends and loved ones. It is so hard that even if you recover from your addiction, you still do it but not as much as you are addicted to it.

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January 09, 2020, 10:17:30 PM
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January 10, 2020, 07:04:49 AM
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It all depends on the intention of borrowing money,if its for food then giving ir right choice but for recovering all the loss he made earlier then try to stay away from that user because he will never realze that he will lose more and more money if he plays gambling games to make money.
There are no exceptions to the problem, whatever the reason it will not be accepted because he should have realized what a great risk that will make him suffer. No one will support you to become a beggar, because there are many ways to recover losses and you must be smart to get out of any suffering.
We are smart and matured here, no one would help someone if helping him would only tolerate his bad activity, he should realize that what he did is wrong so he will make good decision next time, there's no place for beggars in the gambling space because we as gamblers are expected to risk what we can afford only and we can afford to gamble.
Gambling is a game of money and it is definitely hard earned commodity. People can do charity but not help a gambler because of the societal connotations related to him. People fear that he is going to use donated money in gambling again ultimately giving to some other person who is not in much need of money. People fear that gambler is not going to use their money properly. In gambling, you cannot rely on others for monetary help.

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he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you

Dont bet big before you know the game and are sure of all the possibilities and outcomes.   Losing big and it wasnt from previous profits means you gambled what you couldnt afford to lose, basic idea of the mistake to learn from.   Money management is key to stay in the game longer term.   Crypto has the giant advantage that it allows little bets to learn with,  when you are good ramp it up 10x  Cool
Even small amount bet when you consecutively and when we sum it all , it will result to a bigger amount of money. He suffered losses because he get addicted, but I will give him money but I will make sure that he will use it for other thing rather than he will be using it to gamble again, I will not tolerating his behavior.

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January 10, 2020, 12:44:45 PM
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Even small amount bet when you consecutively bet ,if we sum it all , it will result to a bigger amount of money. He suffered losses because he get addicted, but I will give him money but I will make sure that he will use it for other thing rather than he will be using it to gamble again, I will not tolerating his behavior.
The type of people addicted to gambling will not turn to their habits when having money. Because every time he has money, in their minds a way to double it. Moreover, the habits of a gambler will not be separated if he needs money. I speak of a gambler who prefers profit or earn money from gambling rather than entertainment.

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January 10, 2020, 02:22:43 PM
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Even small amount bet when you consecutively bet ,if we sum it all , it will result to a bigger amount of money. He suffered losses because he get addicted, but I will give him money but I will make sure that he will use it for other thing rather than he will be using it to gamble again, I will not tolerating his behavior.
The type of people addicted to gambling will not turn to their habits when having money. Because every time he has money, in their minds a way to double it. Moreover, the habits of a gambler will not be separated if he needs money. I speak of a gambler who prefers profit or earn money from gambling rather than entertainment.
Judging by experienced, most gamblers will aimed for much quicker ways of earning profits than enjoying the game that they've played. This people are engage with wrong impressions about this habits thinking that luck will always be there to help win and get something huge out from this activities.
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January 10, 2020, 09:47:33 PM
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Don't lend him is the mind set of most of the people here and I agree with that too.No one should ever gamble with lend money or until they go bankrupt of their total saving if they do then no one will ever backup them for doing the same thing because the possible result will be complete loss again.
Indeed, lending money to a gambler who suffered losses is like letting him gamble again to chase back what they lost and worse repeat the same mistakes again. Words of encouragement to stop is enough help to someone who lose their money to gambling thats how they will realize they are wrong for playing without discipline and limitation.

It can also be an investment in him. If he gambles and gets lucky you'll earn some money the safe way. If you were gambling with your own money and lost you'd be responsible and could not demand compensation. If he loses your money and you have a written agreement, you'll be able to take him to court or demand him to pay back with his car or house.

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Gambling is very addictive, and before getting into it one needs to know all the consequences that arise out of gambling. Once after losing big maybe people will give advice but it is impossible to get back the lost funds from the casino or from people. Everyone finds it hard, but when it comes to money, everyone running for the same and won't give it that easy for any reason.

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January 10, 2020, 10:47:04 PM
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Gambling is very addictive, and before getting into it one needs to know all the consequences that arise out of gambling. Once after losing big maybe people will give advice but it is impossible to get back the lost funds from the casino or from people. Everyone finds it hard, but when it comes to money, everyone running for the same and won't give it that easy for any reason.
Yes, it can be addictive only if we don't know how to control ourselves and let this addiction beating us.
That is too disappointing how some gamblers having a different approach towards gambling, thinking that this is a good source of income and easy money is not a good idea. It seems too hard to influence gamblers and opened up their minds when they don't want to listen to us. That is why gambling addiction can't be easy to stop once it was already eaten up our mind. It is a sad reality but that it was.
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January 11, 2020, 02:15:09 PM
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depends on his/her history and depends on what kind of connection we have. but generally i will help him with the amount that i'm not expecting to be paid back.
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January 11, 2020, 03:19:47 PM
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If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

What help does he want? Financial help or any means is not applicable since we both are gamblers. Of course it is out in our conscience if the guy suffer a big loss and it's his responsibility to protect his financial issues.

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What help do you mean here? Giving some money or suggestion to him? If it is about the suggestion, I will always be ready to help anytime. But once helping a gambler with money, I am not really sure since it won't recover him from addiction, nor their loss. We may relieve his loss at that time but he will make another loss tomorrow. So, I think it is not an effective way or the right way to help him.
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January 12, 2020, 01:08:35 PM
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If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

People, especially those who bets, often loses due to being unsatisfied with the earnings driving his ego and willingness to surpass more which all turns onto greed alone. Hence, anyone can give any help, such as Financial (by giving enough money whenever he/she was a friend whom helped me somehow only and only if he/she really needs it not for his vices nor any gambling) and Emotional (of course offering him some beer to light up a bit his feelings of money loss). I haven't encountered such gamblers who need help after losing on gambling. It is their shame to beg for help, but I'm still willing.

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