BAN REQUEST for TMAN cause RACISM and excessive vulgar speaking

[CryptoSparks]

I would like to request a BAN for user
TMAN

for repeated racism and vulgar comments like

You can see the level of a person by the attacks he makes, and boy, your are so low level. All you're able to do is yell insults without arguments, and using the same curse over and over again. Not even good at insulting with style. I might make a small script that looks at your global post history and counts how many times you've used the word 'pajeet'.  

YOU believe that an API key is the same as a Bitcoin private key. You act like a prized cunt to senior members who "could" back you and give you legitimacy. You chose to argue and be a prick, therefore I chose to come here and act like a prick back to you.

As I stated before if you were not such a used tampon your service may of gained some traction, you are rowing with some of the most trusted and respected members on this forum. So you will not be successful here due to you personally and not your product.

one more point "wins" makes it sound like a gamble. Even more proof your pajeet level product is a load of horse shit.

Instead of your father spunking in your mother like the prostitute she is, he should of shot his load in her mouth and swallowed you, it would save us all in this world dealing with a cunt like you

DO NOT LEND..

this user is a pasta fucking idiot, please check his trust feedback and his post history, you will likely lose funds if dealing with this loser

Also we don't take loans and never had the intention to do so.

you would of taken a loan you lying pizza eating penis, you were not offered any loans as 1) you are a cunt 2) you lie 3) you are a cunt.

Even the above "never had the intention to" really? what type of idiot do you think the average forum senior is?

maybe go hit up the local pizza place and ask for a job, work hard, save up - then have an actual bankroll instead of trying to skim 30% off others whilst lying about API keys being the same as bitcoin private keys

supercunt

Why don't you use only 3 BTC and accept my challenge?

You really are a special kind of retard arent you - stupid boy, I think you are a cunt, I do not trust you, I dislike your misrepresentations,I dislike how you handle yourself on this forum.

You asked for a wager, I put one out there for you and you ran away to your mother - go fuk your mother if you want to fuk.

take my bet  - the original bet, but you cant as you don't have the funds, listen son, stick to being at home wanking over your 20 satoshi profit and leave the big boys alone.

ciao

The guy is a well know problem for a lot of users:

[Wexnident]

Move to meta instead. Most mods often check posts there unlike here.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

LOL, those are some harsh words on TMAN's part, but that's just how he is.  What he wrote was pretty vulgar and I guess the pajeet thing is racist (though I've never gotten a clear definition of the word), but I seriously doubt any of that is going to earn him a ban.  Theymos is pretty much for freedom of speech and leaves the members here to take care of themselves.

If you think he's trolling you, you could report his posts and see what the mods do with it.  I've had some angry posts of mine deleted before, and probably with good reason.  Members rarely get banned for outbursts like his, and I don't even remember the last time that happened.  You have to be a serious and chronic troll in order to get banned, and TMAN doesn't really fit that description despite his posts that you quoted.

[mindrust]

I don't think racism or vulgar Language is a ban reason. He is not going to get banned for those. If you don't like what he wrote, ignore him or leave a negative rating. There isn't anything else you can do about it.

[actmyname]

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQFAQ:

Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

A search for racism yields no results when it comes to the forum rules.

[TMAN]

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ahh poor princess, worried that I am onto you and you lies and misinterpretation?

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

xxx laters sexy pants

EDIT - for more context.

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184519.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182103.0

[CryptoSparks]

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ahh poor princess, worried that I am onto you and you lies and misinterpretation?

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

xxx laters sexy pants

Lady, i never said an api key is a bitcoin private key.
i never promised guaranteed returns.

All trade history of my bot are free to access via the read only api key.

Trading is not about guaranteed returns but proper risk management over long periods of time. Profits are a direct consequence.

i even made a guide about api keys

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185826

[TMAN]

Lady, i never said an api key is a bitcoin private key.

You are lying yet again you mongloid

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

fuck sake you stupid child why lie again and again?

you are a SKAM boy - not even a SKAM MAN!

[CryptoSparks]

Lady, i never said an api key is a bitcoin private key.

You are lying yet again you mongloid

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

fuck sake you stupid child why lie again and again?

you are a SKAM boy - not even a SKAM MAN!

Ok i see now racism is a fight that the whole world is trying to win but not on bitcointalk.
Congrats and apologies for trying.

Also if i'm a scam boy, why every user that joined my service is defending me ? where are the scammed people?

[actmyname]

Ok i see now racism is fight that the whole world is trying to win but not on bitcointalk.
Congrats and apologies for trying.

Which remarks are racist, by the way? "Pasta fucking idiot" is racist?

Fighting against racism is cool and all but anything that jeopardizes free speech can lead to echochambers. The forum's rules are extremely lax, especially considering scamming isn't even enough to warrant a ban.

[CryptoSparks]

Ok i see now racism is fight that the whole world is trying to win but not on bitcointalk.
Congrats and apologies for trying.

Which remarks are racist, by the way? "Pasta fucking idiot" is racist?

Fighting against racism is cool and all but anything that jeopardizes free speech can lead to echochambers. The forum's rules are extremely lax, especially considering scamming isn't even enough to warrant a ban.

Go in Arakne thread and see how many times she used the word

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pajeet

A slang / racial slur for a smelly dirty curry drinking hairy Indian that poos in the loo.

[TMAN]

YET AGAIN - IGNORING THIS ARE YOU???

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

you are a scam, your words are a scam  - you do not have an $800 bankroll never mind the 800BTC you keep posting you stupid cannoli masturbating twat.

I will continue to call you out as you are a lying fuck

[DireWolfM14]

The guy is a well know problem for a lot of abusers:

Fixed it for ya!  And besides, that's nothing new. We're all quite familiar with TMAN's poetry, and we love him for it.  If people around here were getting banned for insulting others, you would already be gone.

[CryptoSparks]

YET AGAIN - IGNORING THIS ARE YOU???

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

you are a scam, your words are a scam  - you do not have an $800 bankroll never mind the 800BTC you keep posting you stupid cannoli masturbating twat.

I will continue to call you out as you are a lying fuck

Yeah look at how many people are losing funds with this 100% win rate.
Can't say the same for people clicking on your signature though, maybe if your goal is protecting users you should start from removing the ads to scam games designed to make the player lose long term.

Do we need more people like this poor soul ?

I'm so sad for today I have many loan,to play primedice.com,but I'm not lucky I'll loss everything.....I thing I comet suicide,,,,

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Also is pointless in quoting a partial reply of me trying to make me look like a fool.
Nevertheless an API KEY CAN THEORETICALLY ACT AS PRIVATE KEY, simply because is a modular tool that shapes based on service provider. One could build a platform that acts as a bridge between a generated API KEY on the platform itself and a previously imported Private Key.
Anyway the guide i made covers this and more
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185826

 

[TMAN]

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an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Liar - i've created a scam accusation thread based on your lies.  I wish you the best of luck trying to get me banned for pointing out your Risotto eating lies

[CryptoSparks]

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an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

Liar - i've created a scam accusation thread based on your lies.  I wish you the best of luck trying to get me banned for pointing out your Risotto eating lies

Also is pointless in quoting a partial reply of me trying to make me look like a fool.
Nevertheless an API KEY CAN THEORETICALLY ACT AS PRIVATE KEY, simply because is a modular tool that shapes based on service provider. One could build a platform that acts as a bridge between a generated API KEY on the platform itself and a previously imported Private Key.
Anyway the guide i made covers this and more
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185826


I guess that thread will end up like all the others, me winning thanks to data,evidences and users that joined my service and are all happy defending me.

[7788bitcoin]

Go in Arakne thread and see how many times she used the word

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pajeet

A slang / racial slur for a smelly dirty curry drinking hairy Indian that poos in the loo.

It is really funny to see this slur word  , the problem is that your business model looks like a scam and the forum has seen many in the past, if you are selling the bot you could have done that instead you want complete control over everything including the funds and you expect no one to call you out on that , there are some users vouching for you and hope you did not pay them to vouch for you

[TMAN]

Nevertheless an API KEY CAN THEORETICALLY ACT AS PRIVATE KEY

You stupid fuck...

actually - ill let others take over now, this thread is going to be more fun as the day goes on!

[CryptoSparks]

Go in Arakne thread and see how many times she used the word

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pajeet

A slang / racial slur for a smelly dirty curry drinking hairy Indian that poos in the loo.

It is really funny to see this slur word  , the problem is that your business model looks like a scam and the forum has seen many in the past, if you are selling the bot you could have done that instead you want complete control over everything including the funds and you expect no one to call you out on that , there are some users vouching for you and hope you did not pay them to vouch for you

Why would i sell a money making machine ?

Do you know that all hedge funds work with PUBLIC API KEYS ENABLED FOR TRADING ONLY ?

How could i technically scam if all i get from users is an api key that can only create and delete orders on bitmex?

Is impossible.

I earn when users earn. is simple as that.

[7788bitcoin]

Why would i sell a money making machine ?

Why not trade with your funds and make the money rather than risking others funds  .

Do you know that all hedge funds work with PUBLIC API KEYS ENABLED FOR TRADING ONLY ?
How could i technically scam if all i get from users is an api key that can only create and delete orders on bitmex?
Is impossible.

How your trading API keys can be used to drain your funds
what do you say now, it is possible but everyone should think otherwise right  
.

I earn when users earn. is simple as that.

You earn by risking others funds, it is that simple to understand .

[CryptoSparks]

Why would i sell a money making machine ?

Why not trade with your funds and make the money rather than risking others funds  .

Do you know that all hedge funds work with PUBLIC API KEYS ENABLED FOR TRADING ONLY ?
How could i technically scam if all i get from users is an api key that can only create and delete orders on bitmex?
Is impossible.

How your trading API keys can be used to drain your funds
what do you say now, it is possible but everyone should think otherwise right  
.

I earn when users earn. is simple as that.

You earn by risking others funds, it is that simple to understand .

Why do hedge funds and quant shop exist then ?

Also my bot only trades the most liquid market, XBT Perpetual Swap Contract.
Good luck manipulating the price of that without being a GROUP OF WHALES


Anyway i thought this was a thread about how racist and vulgar TMAN is, and not about my business (which i can talk all day since is free marketing)

You should call your buddies, but i roasted them in all threads so i guess they kinda gave up

you haven't even roasted a chicken for sunday dinner Pajeet - I am more than capable of making you lose out on business due to your misrepresentation and lies.

you lie, you lie and you lie

so fuk your mother if you want to fuk

[yogg]

API KEY CAN THEORETICALLY ACT AS PRIVATE KEY

Please can you submit the cryptographic standard specifying the use of api keys delivered by privately owned third-party services as a cryptographic private key ?
Yet, theoretically means there is no scientific proof, so your claims are nonsensical.

Otherwise .. maybe you're onto something that we all missed out in some way ?

Thank you in advance for enlightening us


I doubt your ban request will succeed. You're not the first one to strongly disagree with TMAN yet he's still here.
You should consider joining his princess fan club.

[TMAN]

Anyway i thought this was a thread about how racist and vulgar TMAN is

I am as vulgar as they come to shitcunts like you who wish to scam and manipulate words, this is a community who hate scammers like you - $10 VPS, 5% per month returns, API key is a bitcoin private key

come on you little taint licker I can do this shit all day,

[o_e_l_e_o]

I for one find barely English, poorly written, repetitive, hardly understandable, two line nonsense by semi-literate bounty spammers to be far more vulgar than anything TMAN has ever posted.

My opinion on what is vulgar is objectively correct and your opinion on what is vulgar is objectively wrong, despite this obviously being a completely subjective decision, because I say it is correct, and we know every word I say is correct because I say it is correct, and if you remember from earlier in this sentence, every word I say is correct.

Or maybe making rules on what subjectively causes offense is complete nonsense.

Paraphrased from Stephen Colbert. Don't ban me for plagiarism.

[The-One-Above-All]

Anyway i thought this was a thread about how racist and vulgar TMAN is

I am as vulgar as they come to shitcunts like you who wish to scam and manipulate words, this is a community who hate scammers like you - $10 VPS, 5% per month returns, API key is a bitcoin private key

come on you little taint licker I can do this shit all day,

BUT BUT BUT#

1. You are an undeniable auction scammer
2. You are a self confessed trust abuser
3. You are an undeniable supporter of other proven scammers
4. You can NOT present an original thought provoking post you have ever made for analysis
5. You have ZERO achievements here after being here for years.

I would not say your comments cross the threshold of HATE speech so I don't think a ban could/should issued on these grounds.

I would suggest though that

1/ tman is removed from merit souce
2/ tman is black listed from DT (properly not the half baked waste of time pretend ban his scamming friend lauda was given)

The only people backing Tman here are the same people in the merit cycling / trust inclusion circle that are just as dirty as he is.

Get the entire pack of scum off of DT and take away their merit cycling powers.

Having someone as observable low functioning as tman and undeniably dirty and scamming as tman as a default trust member/ merit source makes this entire board look like a corrupt laughing stock.

[tranthidung]

If you think he's trolling you, you could report his posts and see what the mods do with it.  I've had some angry posts of mine deleted before, and probably with good reason.  Members rarely get banned for outbursts like his, and I don't even remember the last time that happened.  You have to be a serious and chronic troll in order to get banned, and TMAN doesn't really fit that description despite his posts that you quoted.

Honestly, within my two years in the forum, I have never seen a single user get banned because of trolling. I saw lots of complaints on trolling and request of bans on trollers (especially the one who trolls all casinos - we all know who he is) but there is no ban case I saw with my eyes.

[The-One-Above-All]

If you think he's trolling you, you could report his posts and see what the mods do with it.  I've had some angry posts of mine deleted before, and probably with good reason.  Members rarely get banned for outbursts like his, and I don't even remember the last time that happened.  You have to be a serious and chronic troll in order to get banned, and TMAN doesn't really fit that description despite his posts that you quoted.

Honestly, within my two years in the forum, I have never seen a single user get banned because of trolling. I saw lots of complaints on trolling and request of bans on trollers but there is no ban case I saw with my eyes.

That's likely because most members here scream trolling in the face of observable instances and are not trolling at all.  TMAN on the other hand is an undeniable troll.

He is constantly claiming observable instances are trolling. Since that is undeniably FALSE then by repeating this constantly he is trolling and should be having his sig removed for a period of time as a warning not to continue to DELIBERATELY seek to mislead honest members here. If this does not assist him in realizing he should stop this them a temp ban can be issued at a later stage.

Screaming trolling is a tool scammers often use to throw doubt over observable instances presented as clear evidence of their prior wrong doing.

Tman though is an undeniable scammer as per the board rules.

[Ligareaux]

TMAN is just a an unattended child troll, each of his posts is just to insult
unfortunately the bad administration of btctalk, leads to this type of people, has killed the trust that this site had years ago

[TMAN]

ZZZ

listen here ligmaass I dislike scammers and ponzi promoters, hence why this whole thing started with your overlord cryptosparksisacunt.

yes I am rude, yes I piss people off - but as long as I stop 1 person from being scammed its a net benefit.

so go ligma, ligmaballs

[The-One-Above-All]

ZZZ

listen here ligmaass I dislike scammers and ponzi promoters, hence why this whole thing started with your overlord cryptosparksisacunt.

yes I am rude, yes I piss people off - but as long as I stop 1 person from being scammed its a net benefit.

so go ligma, ligmaballs

NO

You are a scammer and you support, protect and enable other scammers. UNDENIABLE.

Jumping on soft targets whilst you support those scammers that are far more dangerous to the community is net negative.

The problem theymos has NOT realized is that even those that are perhaps engaging in what "some" would consider financially dangerous behaviors are NOT GOING TO ACCEPT punishment by UNDENIABLE SCAMMERS who collude with OTHER SCAMMERS here. Hence the entire board is going to become a full out war zone. The systems of control will not matter once you have hoards of people feeling they are victims of real scammers. Wait for it ... the entire board will just get more and more hostile and viscous.

The systems that enable people like TMAN and LAUDA and Yogg and all of these colluding dirt bags to punish even whistle blowers whilst ensuring via their pals they get paid at the highest rates to promulgate their garbage all over the forum is anti satoshi and the community will not stand for it. It is just getting warmed up.  Wait until these people ORGANIZE and start a union and pool their efforts to crush these bunch of self elected abusers. Then it will be fun to watch.

Little red marks and hoarding merits is not going to do shit in the face of a well organized and driven union of people that are not going to endure the abuse.

[Lauda]

TMAN is just a an unattended child troll, each of his posts is just to insult
unfortunately the bad administration of btctalk, leads to this type of people, has killed the trust that this site had years ago

I wonder whose alt you are. Can you make it any more obvious?

[The-One-Above-All]

TMAN is just a an unattended child troll, each of his posts is just to insult
unfortunately the bad administration of btctalk, leads to this type of people, has killed the trust that this site had years ago

I wonder whose alt you are. Can you make it any more obvious?

LOL can YOU make it more obvious LAUDA

Look who is here now scamming royalty. Lauda, tman, yogg, ... where is owlcatz>??

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

These colluders all rush to protect and support each other.

Who's alt are you dirt bag??

Besides where is actmyname for the ad hominem lecture here?? seems to have forgotten about ad hominem now.

Most of the tman colluding protection squad here have been launching in to ad hominem since the start of this thread and have derailed it not to be about tmans racisim and constant low functioning tourettes laden spew at all.

Seems to have been derailed through ad hominem to now be the OP defending his other prior actions.

No doubt will be here to tell me this post is ad hominem though lol

I think we need to analyse

1. who are including who here on DT
2. who's merits come from who (hence allowing them to select each other on DT)
3. who is SPAMMING THE HIGHEST PAYING SIGS HERE
4. who have undeniable SCAMMING in their past histories.

Yes I think if people are found to be deliberately gaming these systems , scamming, protecting other scammers, and punishing whistle blowers they need some punishment.

If ALONG with those things above they are continuously swearing and cursing with NO OTHER SUBSTANCE to their posts and proliferating FALSE information then there certainly should be some punishment.

The reader should note, those protecting/supporting tman have clear motive for doing so.

1. their includes are mutually beneficial
2. their merits are cycled check their top 20 fans and recipients.
3. their highly paid sigs are reliant on this collusion
4. they are colluding in many instances of trust abuser/trust cycling
5. they are caught in acts of scamming together or defending each others past scamming by grouping to shout down or punish those that dare to whistle blow on them.
6. Theymos has
a/ black listed lauda from DT1 ( half baked attempt anyway)
b/ distrusts TMAN

those are quite weak actions considering the clear evidence of how corrupt and dirty those 2 are but even so the reader should take that into account.

[Lauda]

You mad or something?

[The-One-Above-All]

You mad or something?

Sounds like ad hominem to me.

Sorry no derailing . Just tackle the observable instances of yours and tmans past histories here consisting of scamming, trust abusing, extortion, shady escrow + the foul language and racism thrown in for good measure usually used to shout down and attempted bullying of whistle blowers when the trust abusing does not cut it.

The racism and foul language ALONE perhaps not enough for a ban or removal of dt/merit source. However once you start to bring in the other undeniably financially dangerous actions from tman and yourself then this is a much stronger case for some action. This should be brought against ALL those that have deliberately tried to protect you from punishment and support you for default trust. This is all very dangerous for honest members here.

[CryptoSparks]

Finally some shit is coming out eh ?

[Lauda]

You mad or something?

It does sound like you're mad.

[TMAN]

Finally some shit is coming out eh ?

ha ha ha, yea loads of shit, out your mouth you twat

[The-One-Above-All]

You mad or something?

It does sound like you're mad.

Sounds like you are a scammer trying to be funny and prevent the honest member from finding out the truth about you and tman and the need for you guys to be taken out of DT and merit source.

Here let me help them... quoted from the dirty turd thread of ours.

TMAN

This person is clearly a low functioning imbecile. We have previously challenged it to present it best original thought inspiring posts for analysis (since his account was showered in merits to boost it from hero to legendary. He could not provide ANYTHING of real value or merit. He claims he is given merit because people find his swearing and sexual deviant ramblings are entertaining. So he has zero value with regard reaching the optimal solution or opinion. He simply does not have the capacity to add any kind of value to this board.

He is also implicated in some VERY dirty and dangerous behaviors here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

His known PALS both owlcatz and lauda are both implicated in the same extortion attempt.

Seems Tman also is not above a bit of scamming directly when it suits him (we quote OG below who discovered this)

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931778.msg19286369#msg19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.msg19349060#msg19349060 "


Tman has also admitted in black and white that he used the trust system to punish those that present observable instances (facts) of wrong doing by his friend Lauda.

This DIRTY TURD is currently a merit source and DT.  Time to flush that filthy piece of shit.

Lauda or LaudaM

Well, where does one start with this filth bag. Scammer, liar, trust abuser, implicated in extortion schemes and shady looking escrow deals.

If a persons should even present observable instances of his wrong doing he plastered their accounts with red trust, that was doubled up on by TMAN, Owlcatz and Yogg the fool.

Here read Lauda the (prior) MOD, DT, - one of the most widely trusted members here (by other scumbag DT members)  These corrupt bunch of shit stains would not even remove him from DT after seeing this evidence many times.  Even at the request of Theymos they would not remove this filthy piece of scamming dirt. Finally he was removed from DT1 by theymos manually. NOT for all this prior observable scamming and dangerous actions but it seems because he was still determined to use the trust system to silence any critic of his.  For some reason his OBVIOUS prior abuse still remains as a mark other members accounts WHY??

Enjoy Lauda's CV for a trust position. We quote our own prior investigative work and that of others investigative work below.

1.  lauda, owlcatz , tman - extortion attempt which many senior members believe WAS a real attempt to extort another member

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

2. laudas et als shady looking escrow dealings concerning 3000BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.msg44083126#msg44083126

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

3. laudas PROVEN lie for financial gain (SCAMMING) that he was on the launch of xcoin/dark and there was NO Instamine whilst holding bags of it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member?
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

If you say you would encourage others to read though his post history you got a scam tag which his friends Tman, Yogg and owlcatz then doubled down on when you started to point out that people should be made aware of their trust abuse. SCUM BAGS that are still on DT Huh


This Dirty Turd has been semi- flushed but there are serious stain marks left in the bowl.  


There ... now along with the RACISM AND FOUL LANGUAGE we have a far stronger case to see such dregs removed from positions of TRUST where they can do MORE damage.

[FruitsBasket]

I agree with the ban request for TMAN.

He has been insulting me and my family message after message:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204688.msg53185373#msg53185373

In my opinion, moderators should ban a user that does all of the following:
- creates baseless accusations for signature spam
- insults users and their family
- FUD, Lies and trolling
- inappropriate language
- framing

[TMAN]

- framing

you are the only one having to do some re framing, re framing the size of the doors in your house so your mum can get through the gap..

seriously prove the full P&L I am not trolling, you are backing up your alt account...

[FruitsBasket]

- framing

you are the only one having to do some re framing, re framing the size of the doors in your house so your mum can get through the gap..

seriously prove the full P&L I am not trolling, you are backing up your alt account...

Stop your false accusations. I am happy to provide my bitmex read only api key.

[Lauda]

In my opinion, moderators should ban a user that does all of the following:
- creates baseless accusations for signature spam

This is untrue. His posts are unrelated to his campaign nor his signature. The manager can confirm this, so don't try using it when it isn't the case.

[CryptoSparks]

API KEY CAN THEORETICALLY ACT AS PRIVATE KEY

Please can you submit the cryptographic standard specifying the use of api keys delivered by privately owned third-party services as a cryptographic private key ?
Yet, theoretically means there is no scientific proof, so your claims are nonsensical.

Otherwise .. maybe you're onto something that we all missed out in some way ?

Thank you in advance for enlightening us


I doubt your ban request will succeed. You're not the first one to strongly disagree with TMAN yet he's still here.
You should consider joining his princess fan club.

You are missing the effort to read the full quote your buddy is spamming out of context and that i will stand until death to my API KEY Definition:

An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.

WIKIPEDIA



In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out(2FA rekt)... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals without having direct access to the funds.

The all debate about api keys started because trolls that spam gambling signatures while faking interest in protecting other users, cannot attack the bot as a scam or ponzi anymore because of the trading journey with public api key available that anyone can use to access the account.

But to reply how an api key can act as bitcoin private key ( which is still not related to my business since ALL I REQUIRE IS A PUBLIC API KEY ENABLED FOR ORDER CREATION AND CANCELLATION ON BITMEX):

If you import your bitcoin private key on an hypothetical platform that gives you access to all functionality of that private key via a self generated api key to your account on the platform, would in that case the api key act like a private key ?

YES or NO ?

 

[The-One-Above-All]

I would suggest seeing there is multiple users supporting this ban based on UNDENIABLE instances of behavior ranging from sub optimal to out right scamming and punishing of whistle blowers.

That a UNION be formed. Therefore even if theymos will take no action against tman ( which is 99.99% going to be the case here) You can unite , organize and make sure his time here is hell (WHILST KEEPING WITH IN THE RULES).

You must also Organize and collude together AS THEY ARE DOING to pool your resources or else you will never stand any chance of ousting them from their entrenched positions from which they can abuse you.

His ban is POINTLESS he will just return under another alt ( of which I am sure he has many) you must form a UNION to make sure that there is not a 2 tier rule system here.  That means you will need to work together to achieve this.  These people need REMOVAL from position of power aka merit source and DT. They can do little damage once this is achieved.

Although they should have their merits reduced and frozed under the 250 threshold for DT control and sig removed too.

Without a union NOTHING will change here. Racism and foul language alone will never get him banned anyway. We don't want to start encroaching on free speech anyway.  

However if you are financially danagerous and you can not present posts that demonstrate some original thought provoking and important ideas then you have NO business being a merit source. Imagine giving merit source to someone as stupid and corrupt as tman?

Better to ask for his removal from DT ( real blacklisting of all DT levels) and take away his merit source than for a ban (which will not happen) or constantly look out for his undeniable trolling which he uses to derail and detract threads away from observable instances of the undeniable prior wrong doing of him and his scamming pals.

CRYPTOSPARKS  - do not let YOGG derail your thread here to focus on you. He is an observable scammer support of tmans and laudas many times before. Yogg tman lauda owlcatz thenewanon23443  all of these fortune jack scammers are in on it together.

[CryptoSparks]

You mad or something?

It does sound like you're mad.

Sounds like you are a scammer trying to be funny and prevent the honest member from finding out the truth about you and tman and the need for you guys to be taken out of DT and merit source.

Here let me help them... quoted from the dirty turd thread of ours.

TMAN

This person is clearly a low functioning imbecile. We have previously challenged it to present it best original thought inspiring posts for analysis (since his account was showered in merits to boost it from hero to legendary. He could not provide ANYTHING of real value or merit. He claims he is given merit because people find his swearing and sexual deviant ramblings are entertaining. So he has zero value with regard reaching the optimal solution or opinion. He simply does not have the capacity to add any kind of value to this board.

He is also implicated in some VERY dirty and dangerous behaviors here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

His known PALS both owlcatz and lauda are both implicated in the same extortion attempt.

Seems Tman also is not above a bit of scamming directly when it suits him (we quote OG below who discovered this)

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931778.msg19286369#msg19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.msg19349060#msg19349060 "


Tman has also admitted in black and white that he used the trust system to punish those that present observable instances (facts) of wrong doing by his friend Lauda.

This DIRTY TURD is currently a merit source and DT.  Time to flush that filthy piece of shit.

Lauda or LaudaM

Well, where does one start with this filth bag. Scammer, liar, trust abuser, implicated in extortion schemes and shady looking escrow deals.

If a persons should even present observable instances of his wrong doing he plastered their accounts with red trust, that was doubled up on by TMAN, Owlcatz and Yogg the fool.

Here read Lauda the (prior) MOD, DT, - one of the most widely trusted members here (by other scumbag DT members)  These corrupt bunch of shit stains would not even remove him from DT after seeing this evidence many times.  Even at the request of Theymos they would not remove this filthy piece of scamming dirt. Finally he was removed from DT1 by theymos manually. NOT for all this prior observable scamming and dangerous actions but it seems because he was still determined to use the trust system to silence any critic of his.  For some reason his OBVIOUS prior abuse still remains as a mark other members accounts WHY??

Enjoy Lauda's CV for a trust position. We quote our own prior investigative work and that of others investigative work below.

1.  lauda, owlcatz , tman - extortion attempt which many senior members believe WAS a real attempt to extort another member

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

2. laudas et als shady looking escrow dealings concerning 3000BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.msg44083126#msg44083126

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

3. laudas PROVEN lie for financial gain (SCAMMING) that he was on the launch of xcoin/dark and there was NO Instamine whilst holding bags of it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member?
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

If you say you would encourage others to read though his post history you got a scam tag which his friends Tman, Yogg and owlcatz then doubled down on when you started to point out that people should be made aware of their trust abuse. SCUM BAGS that are still on DT Huh


This Dirty Turd has been semi- flushed but there are serious stain marks left in the bowl. 


There ... now along with the RACISM AND FOUL LANGUAGE we have a far stronger case to see such dregs removed from positions of TRUST where they can do MORE damage.

The garbage behind those trolls is even bigger than what i thought.

I seriously hope some of the mods will take any action, even a warning only , in order to improve the quality of the forum...because more they are allowed to do such disgusting practices , more their behavior damages the forum's reputation.

[FruitsBasket]

In my opinion, moderators should ban a user that does all of the following:
- creates baseless accusations for signature spam

This is untrue. His posts are unrelated to his campaign nor his signature. The manager can confirm this, so don't try using it when it isn't the case.

So the funny thing is. TMAN attacks CryptoSparks. I give me experience with his service and than I am labeled as his alt account. And now you, Lauda, is backing up TMAN. So should I act the same and label u as alts? This TMAN user is telling a bunch of nonsense and is insulting me and other users on the forum. That should not be a standard DT user.

[yogg]

Your definition of what you think a private key is, is irrelevant.

If you import your bitcoin private key on an hypothetical platform that gives you access to all functionality of that private key via a self generated api key to your account on the platform, would in that case the api key act like a private key ?

YES or NO ?

An API key isn't a private key, because I cannot import it in Bitcoin Core and spend my BTC.

It could match your description only indirectly, by extension; because the API key that was given to you allows you to manipulate the cryptographic private key that you gave in exchange of the API key.

Also, you are shortcutting the fact that this API key was given to you by a privately owned third party entity and this entity does the manipulations around the cryptographic private key on your behalf.
This isn't really among the "best practices".

To be clear, strictly speaking a cryptographic private key comes in a pair, with a public key.
So, unless the "API key" is mathematically linked to another set of data that has been generated by a cryptographic signature algorithm, no, this cannot be called "private key".

[Lauda]

In my opinion, moderators should ban a user that does all of the following:
- creates baseless accusations for signature spam

This is untrue. His posts are unrelated to his campaign nor his signature. The manager can confirm this, so don't try using it when it isn't the case.

So the funny thing is. TMAN attacks CryptoSparks. I give me experience with his service and than I am labeled as his alt account. And now you, Lauda, is backing up TMAN. So should I act the same and label u as alts? This TMAN user is tellinb a bunch of nonsense and is insulting me and other users on the forum. That should not be a standard DT user.

Whataboutism. I'm just pointing out inaccuracies. I'm fine with insults from anyone towards anyone. Where are all those virtue-signalling free-speech saints now?

[FruitsBasket]

In my opinion, moderators should ban a user that does all of the following:
- creates baseless accusations for signature spam

This is untrue. His posts are unrelated to his campaign nor his signature. The manager can confirm this, so don't try using it when it isn't the case.

So the funny thing is. TMAN attacks CryptoSparks. I give me experience with his service and than I am labeled as his alt account. And now you, Lauda, is backing up TMAN. So should I act the same and label u as alts? This TMAN user is tellinb a bunch of nonsense and is insulting me and other users on the forum. That should not be a standard DT user.

Whataboutism. I'm just pointing out inaccuracies. I'm fine with insults from anyone towards anyone. Where are all those virtue-signalling free-speech saints now?

TMAN is framing, insulting and creating baseless accusations and who knows what else he is doing.

[TheNewAnon135246]

This nonsense should be posted in 'Reputation'

[The-One-Above-All]

@cryptosparks..

they will do NOTHING. The only way is for a union to be formed. The sytems of control are stacked FULL with undeniable scammers and scammer supporters. The mods are wearing sigs paid by these and their pals. Nothing will be done at an admin level there is too much incentive for collusion.

You and all the others that are unhappy with the abuse and treatment at the hands of these scammers will need to form a UNION. Then organize and collude together to crush them. There is no other way.

Do you really think the admin here are ignorant to the observable instances of scamming and other foul deeds of these DT/ merit sources?? of course they are aware they will do nothing because it is not in their interest to do so.

Only way is a UNION you only need about 20 driven people to give these scammers a real crushing. Start a union for all the abused to rise up together and organize or else nothing will change.

No more double standards and 2 tier rule systems where they are clear scammers but get on default trust and others they claim are " suspected" financially high risk are punished.  Only a union can stop this now. The systems of control primarily merit are so broken and they are too entrenched now to be removed via working within those systems. They have red marks , you have posts and clear evidence of their scamming. In the end a union will win.

Where does a proven scammer get to cast someone as financially dangerous for whistle blowing on them?? bitcointalk that is where.

There are many attack vectors for a union to bring this colluding ring of scammers/scammer supporters down hard. You only need to crush a few the rest will jump ship. Tman is a soft target and needs to be taken out of DT and merit source but he is just an imbecile who is actually a useful attack vector to get at the other more dangerous scammers. Last thing you want is tman banned. If any person is going to fuck up and endanger the rest of the colluding scammers it will be him.

One thing more is : do not always think of only yourself and protecting your own interests. The interests of other honest members being abused by these scammers should also be defended. If you allow others to be abused without assisting them you are enabling them and allowing others to believe they are untouchable and that aligning with them is the only way forward.

Tmans racism and foul language is not the primary danger posed by him and his pals. The forums entire free speech is being crushed by these colluding scammers that control merit/trust. That's not considering the financial danger they pose at a far higher level than the 2 bit scammers they use to virtue signal and validate their positions.

[hilariousandco]

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQFAQ:

Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

A search for racism yields no results when it comes to the forum rules.

It isn't, but this sort of stuff is just unnecessary and is clearly done just to provoke:

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

Is the swearing necessary? And this sort of ad hominem would be against the rules (not to mention derailing threads):

The policy to not remove anything worked when the forum was small. Now that we have thousands of posts a day, we can't afford 50% of them being junk. The moderators are now instructed to be less tolerant of low-value posts.

Some guidelines:

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.

I don’t need your dirty money earned by signature campaigns.

dirty? my funds are clean, much cleaner than your mothers ass was last night, I had intended to eat ass but the stench was vile - had to put it in the shower.. anyway - not to be off topic, but I dont see many supporters here for you young little precious flower.

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

[FruitsBasket]

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQFAQ:

Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

A search for racism yields no results when it comes to the forum rules.

It isn't, but this sort of stuff is just unnecessary and is clearly done just to provoke:

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

Is the swearing necessary? And this sort of ad hominem would be against the rules (not to mention derailing threads):

The policy to not remove anything worked when the forum was small. Now that we have thousands of posts a day, we can't afford 50% of them being junk. The moderators are now instructed to be less tolerant of low-value posts.

Some guidelines:

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.

I don’t need your dirty money earned by signature campaigns.

dirty? my funds are clean, much cleaner than your mothers ass was last night, I had intended to eat ass but the stench was vile - had to put it in the shower.. anyway - not to be off topic, but I dont see many supporters here for you young little precious flower.

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Thanks!
I appreciate you explaining the rules.

As u may have noticed, TMAN is just trolling and keeps posting unnecesary insults.

[CryptoSparks]

@cryptosparks..

they will do NOTHING. The only way is for a union to be formed. The sytems of control are stacked FULL with undeniable scammers and scammer supporters. The mods are wearing sigs paid by these and their pals. Nothing will be done at an admin level there is too much incentive for collusion.

You and all the others that are unhappy with the abuser and treatment at the hands of these scammers will need to form a UNION. Then organize and collude together to crush them. There is no other way.

Do you really think the admin here are ignorant to the observable instances of scamming and other foul deeds of these DT/ merit sources?? of course they are aware they will do nothing because it is not in their interest to do so.

UNION you only need about 20 driven people to give these scammers a real crushing. Start a union for all the abused to rise up together and organize or else nothing will change.

No more double standards and 2 tier rule systems where they are clear scammers but get on default trust and others they claim are " suspected" financially high risk are punished.  Only a union can stop this now. The systems of control primarily merit are so broken and they are too entrenched now to be removed via working within those systems. They have red marks , you have posts and clear evidence of their scamming. In the end a union will win.

Is just sad man, we are in bitcoin for decentralization and big ideals...while this is what this forum has become.

[Lauda]

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

Is the swearing necessary? And this sort of ad hominem would be against the rules (not to mention derailing threads):

If you take a closer look, it's an on-topic post makes with a lot of insults. It's fine as is.

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Neither insults nor trolling is childish. That is not a valid argument and has been used ad-nauseam against both. It's fun to read if you're in the right mood, especially when it is on-point like here.

Is just sad man, we are in bitcoin for decentralization and big ideals...while this is what this forum has become.

This sounds oddly familiar to what most Ponzi-scammers in the past would complain about (not claiming you are one here; it just smells familiar).

[TMAN]

~

no trolling here, pointing out all the inconsistencies in your thread, the fact you think an API Key is a bitcoin private key for one, the fact you are showing a 900BTC bankroll to make your service look legit - plus many other things in your thread that are straight out wrong.

so yes Ill stop calling you a cunt when you stop acting like one and stop trying to scam people with your $10 VPS fee on top of your 30% fee. you also offered people to deposit into your account and you would give them a view key to see the balance,

all in all the net of this is that you are a skam man, you can call me all you fucking want but I wont stop pointing out your skammy behavior just because you are a little princess and don't like being sworn at you twat

[FruitsBasket]

~

no trolling here, pointing out all the inconsistencies in your thread, the fact you think an API Key is a bitcoin private key for one, the fact you are showing a 900BTC bankroll to make your service look legit - plus many other things in your thread that are straight out wrong.

so yes Ill stop calling you a cunt when you stop acting like one and stop trying to scam people with your $10 VPS fee on top of your 30% fee. you also offered people to deposit into your account and you would give them a view key to see the balance,

all in all the net of this is that you are a skam man, you can call me all you fucking want but I wont stop pointing out your skammy behavior just because you are a little princess and don't like being sworn at you twat

What! I am offering no service to anyone. Please get your facts straight.

[The-One-Above-All]

~

no trolling here, pointing out all the inconsistencies in your thread, the fact you think an API Key is a bitcoin private key for one, the fact you are showing a 900BTC bankroll to make your service look legit - plus many other things in your thread that are straight out wrong.

so yes Ill stop calling you a cunt when you stop acting like one and stop trying to scam people with your $10 VPS fee on top of your 30% fee. you also offered people to deposit into your account and you would give them a view key to see the balance,

all in all the net of this is that you are a skam man, you can call me all you fucking want but I wont stop pointing out your skammy behavior just because you are a little princess and don't like being sworn at you twat

What about the fact you are an auction scammer. This is a thread about YOU right. Stop derailing.

1. you are an auction scammer
2. you are implicated in a serious extortion attempt
3. you support lauda who is a proven scammer, trust abuser and implicated in extortion, BIG shady escrow.
4. you are a self confessed trust abuser of whistle blowers.

These are CONFIRMED and undeniable.

No point trying to point the fingers at other members to detract from these observable instances in your past history that clearly demonstrate you have NO POSITION in default trust

The extra points that you (tman)  are racist and that the vast majority of your posts are foul language and sexually deviant with NO substance of value to them is just the icing on the cake. These are minor points but when coupled with the other undeniable scamming , trust abusing and scammer supporting points make a clear case for your removal from DT and merit source.

[TMAN]

Is just sad man, we are in bitcoin for decentralization and big ideals...while this is what this forum has become.

Decentralisation yet you promote just shy of 800% roi? you wonder why I call you and your shit service out? then your supporters who have earnt less than 0.01BTC in a few months of using your service come here? then they got to pay you a fee and $10 a month for a VPS? fuck it I can get a dedicated server with 250 IPS for $500 a month - that's $2K margin on just the VPS element if 250 people take your service (assuming you need a unique IP for each)

cant blame you for shilling that shit hard, can blame you for your lies and pissing me and others off whilst doing it you cunt. The fact OP here cant see it doesnt make any difference to me.

[CryptoSparks]

~

no trolling here, pointing out all the inconsistencies in your thread, the fact you think an API Key is a bitcoin private key for one, the fact you are showing a 900BTC bankroll to make your service look legit - plus many other things in your thread that are straight out wrong.

so yes Ill stop calling you a cunt when you stop acting like one and stop trying to scam people with your $10 VPS fee on top of your 30% fee. you also offered people to deposit into your account and you would give them a view key to see the balance,

all in all the net of this is that you are a skam man, you can call me all you fucking want but I wont stop pointing out your skammy behavior just because you are a little princess and don't like being sworn at you twat

problem is you keep repeating the same lies over and over again. all this stuff is totally wrong and unfair towards my business, and you know it very well.

Never said API Key is a bitcoin Private key and i don't need it to be since the bots are connected to clients accounts via public api key enabled for trading only.


Graphs are generated by the backtest engine with 100 BTC as initial investment to demonstrate to big partners how Arakne manages big capitals thanks to her safe money management. The initial investment value doesn't change the final ROI. Furthermore, would be inaccurate to show graphs of current funds managed by Arakne because every client has his own private bitmex account, where is free to deposit and withdraw at will. So tracking the bot performance based on that data would be totally pointless. This is why performance is correctly tracked by the backtest engine, which trades can be verified on the OPEN LIVE ACCOUNT by accessing it with the API KEY.

ACCESS THE LIVE OPEN ACCOUNT VIA THE FOLLOWING API KEY:
ID:

Code:

_rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI

SECRET:

Code:

V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE

HOW TO VERIFY ?
Simply create account at https://www.coinmarketman.com
and link the above api key to see all trade and balance history


I also never ask to people to deposit in my account.

Is just sad man, we are in bitcoin for decentralization and big ideals...while this is what this forum has become.

Decentralisation yet you promote just shy of 800% roi? you wonder why I call you and your shit service out? then your supporters who have earnt less than 0.01BTC in a few months of using your service come here? then they got to pay you a fee and $10 a month for a VPS? fuck it I can get a dedicated server with 250 IPS for $500 a month - that's $2K margin on just the VPS element if 250 people take your service (assuming you need a unique IP for each)

cant blame you for shilling that shit hard, can blame you for your lies and pissing me and others off whilst doing it you cunt. The fact OP here cant see it doesnt make any difference to me.

people that are supporting me on bitcointalk are just a small % of my clients.

LIVE REACTIONS IN OUR OPEN GROUP AFTER WINS:

https://t.me/Arakne








BUT STILL THIS THREAD SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT MY BUSINESS BUT ABOUT TMAN, HE'S A PROVEN RACIST AND AGGRESSIVE TROLL. YET HE'S A MERIT SOURCE AND DT USERS.

[LoyceV]

Let me quote myself from my Beginners guide:

If someone on the internet is mean to you: boo fucking hoo! Use the Ignore button, and forget about them.

I don't have to agree to anyone to protect their right to say what they want! There are literally thousands of forums on the internet with rediculously strict (and biased) censorship. Bitcointalk is about freedom, and you can't have freedom if you don't want people to say mean things to you. If you want censorship, pick any other forum. Don't try to change the one forum that offers freedom of speech!

[TMAN]

STUPID shilling of a crap product

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

no matter what else you say you are retarded thinking that an API Key can act as a bitcoin private key - nothing else matters, you have 0 credibility, same as your alt accounts posting to defend you

[CryptoSparks]

Let me quote myself from my Beginners guide:

If someone on the internet is mean to you: boo fucking hoo! Use the Ignore button, and forget about them.

I don't have to agree to anyone to protect their right to say what they want! There are literally thousands of forums on the internet with rediculously strict (and biased) censorship. Bitcointalk is about freedom, and you can't have freedom if you don't want people to say mean things to you. If you want censorship, pick any other forum. Don't try to change the one forum that offers freedom of speech!

Since when racism is freedom ?              
Your freedom ends when you are limiting other's freedom!

STUPID shilling of a crap product

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

no matter what else you say you are retarded thinking that an API Key can act as a bitcoin private key - nothing else matters, you have 0 credibility, same as your alt accounts posting to defend you

I mean look, literally the same false accusations over and over and over and over again.
I replied to these like dozens of time in 5 different threads

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQFAQ:

Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

A search for racism yields no results when it comes to the forum rules.

It isn't, but this sort of stuff is just unnecessary and is clearly done just to provoke:

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

Is the swearing necessary? And this sort of ad hominem would be against the rules (not to mention derailing threads):

The policy to not remove anything worked when the forum was small. Now that we have thousands of posts a day, we can't afford 50% of them being junk. The moderators are now instructed to be less tolerant of low-value posts.

Some guidelines:

1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.

I don’t need your dirty money earned by signature campaigns.

dirty? my funds are clean, much cleaner than your mothers ass was last night, I had intended to eat ass but the stench was vile - had to put it in the shower.. anyway - not to be off topic, but I dont see many supporters here for you young little precious flower.

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Moderator, can you at least give a warning or something? Remove some of the privileges well know bad apples still have?

[LoyceV]

Your freedom ends when you are limiting other's freedom!

I'm offended by your wish for censorship. Please stop hurting my feeling by asking this, or I'll cry in my corner!

That's a slippery slope you're proposing!

It's the f*cking internet, there are billions of people out there, and some of them are going to be mean to you. Grow a thicker skin.
What if someone stores something mean about you in the Bitcoin blockchain? Good luck getting anyone to ban it!

[yogg]

I replied to these like dozens of time in 5 different threads

You forgot to address this in this very thread :

Your definition of what you think a private key is, is irrelevant.

If you import your bitcoin private key on an hypothetical platform that gives you access to all functionality of that private key via a self generated api key to your account on the platform, would in that case the api key act like a private key ?

YES or NO ?

An API key isn't a private key, because I cannot import it in Bitcoin Core and spend my BTC.

It could match your description only indirectly, by extension; because the API key that was given to you allows you to manipulate the cryptographic private key that you gave in exchange of the API key.

Also, you are shortcutting the fact that this API key was given to you by a privately owned third party entity and this entity does the manipulations around the cryptographic private key on your behalf.
This isn't really among the "best practices".

To be clear, strictly speaking a cryptographic private key comes in a pair, with a public key.
So, unless the "API key" is mathematically linked to another set of data that has been generated by a cryptographic signature algorithm, no, this cannot be called "private key".

You shouldn't be rude and plain ignoring people who reply to your questions, even more so when you direct your questions to said people.

[Lauda]

Since when racism is freedom ?              
Your freedom ends when you are limiting other's freedom!

Racism and hate speech are the very definition of free speech. Whether it has social consequences or not is something else entirely.

[LoyceV]

Racism and hate speech are the very definition of free speech.

There was another topic about this recently, and indeed, you don't need to protect freedom of speech to say kittens are cute. You need freedom of speech to be able to say controversial things.

[TMAN]

Racism and hate speech are the very definition of free speech. Whether it has social consequences or not is something else entirely.

I called him a pizza fucker and a cannoli masturbate as I know he is Italian, although he seems to be taking offence to being called a Pajeet - which around here is a term for the likes of cryptosparks who cant get together 0.1BTC himself otherwise he would ride his 800% returns, whilst compounding it to become richer than satoshi within the next 10 years.

those who can do, those who cant teach - those who cant, cant afford it, cant be bothered, are too insignificant and suffer from narcissistic tendencies all try to do shit with other peoples money instead.

[cabalism13]

The guy is a well known problem for a lot of users shitheads:

I just corrected a few words for the OP, I really want to ignore the thread but can't resist LoL.
1st Image was just full of Ogs Feedbacks.
2nd and 3rd unknown shitheads especially game-protect

Since when racism is freedom ?              
Your freedom ends when you are limiting other's freedom!

Its free. Really hate racism but it is free. Nobody even the government didn't said that racism is a rule or something like any that limits one's own freedom?
How can you even say that you're not free when you're still here having a debate? How can you speak ill of TMAN, if he already limit your freedom? I really find shills here.

@CryptoSparks please stop using
well know
its irritating.

[CryptoSparks]

Racism and hate speech are the very definition of free speech. Whether it has social consequences or not is something else entirely.

I called him a pizza fucker and a cannoli masturbate as I know he is Italian, although he seems to be taking offence to being called a Pajeet - which around here is a term for the likes of cryptosparks who cant get together 0.1BTC himself otherwise he would ride his 800% returns, whilst compounding it to become richer than satoshi within the next 10 years.

those who can do, those who cant teach - those who cant, cant afford it, cant be bothered, are too insignificant and suffer from narcissistic tendencies all try to do shit with other peoples money instead.

You can call me whatever you want, i focus the attention on your constant use of the very racist word 'Pajeet'
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pajeet


Anwyay don't worry, you will hear a lot about myself in the coming months  
Only a few days left to platform release, the mass will finally have easy access to automated algorithmic trading... while you all will still be here spamming signatures
ps. FREE LIFETIME VPS ON THE PLATFORM, so no excuses to keep losing with gambling platforms or manual trading 

I replied to these like dozens of time in 5 different threads

You forgot to address this in this very thread :

Your definition of what you think a private key is, is irrelevant.

If you import your bitcoin private key on an hypothetical platform that gives you access to all functionality of that private key via a self generated api key to your account on the platform, would in that case the api key act like a private key ?

YES or NO ?

An API key isn't a private key, because I cannot import it in Bitcoin Core and spend my BTC.

It could match your description only indirectly, by extension; because the API key that was given to you allows you to manipulate the cryptographic private key that you gave in exchange of the API key.

Also, you are shortcutting the fact that this API key was given to you by a privately owned third party entity and this entity does the manipulations around the cryptographic private key on your behalf.
This isn't really among the "best practices".

To be clear, strictly speaking a cryptographic private key comes in a pair, with a public key.
So, unless the "API key" is mathematically linked to another set of data that has been generated by a cryptographic signature algorithm, no, this cannot be called "private key".

You shouldn't be rude and plain ignoring people who reply to your questions, even more so when you direct your questions to said people.

Why didn't you reply to my question ? would the api key act as bitcoin private key or not? you could spend the btc with your api key.



Anyway dear haters, have to really go coding. I get why you guys and girls have nothing concrete in life, hours fly on this forum and kills productivity.

I will come back with some more roasting soon.

 

[The-One-Above-All]

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

Is the swearing necessary? And this sort of ad hominem would be against the rules (not to mention derailing threads):

If you take a closer look, it's an on-topic post makes with a lot of insults. It's fine as is.

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Neither insults nor trolling is childish. That is not a valid argument and has been used ad-nauseam against both. It's fun to read if you're in the right mood, especially when it is on-point like here.

Is just sad man, we are in bitcoin for decentralization and big ideals...while this is what this forum has become.

This sounds oddly familiar to what most Ponzi-scammers in the past would complain about (not claiming you are one here; it just smells familiar).

Well try it on with the rest of his brilliant , insightful and on topic points here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0

Just because you claim trolling, tourettes laden insults with no supporting or corroborating evidence is not childish does not make it so.

You are a person that claims your own observable instances of scamming are just lies and trolling,  so I don't think we can rely on anything that you say can we.


LOL at the biggest ponzi scammer supporter here giving lectures to others.

I like this one.

Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.

Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.

I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there.

Supporting, lying and trying to push scams is more your style when of course you are not pulling extortion or shady escrows. Then coming here to defend your auction scamming pals and extorting partners actions.

When ever you see either lauda, tman, yogg, owlcatz, thenewanon , being made accountable for their actions you will see they all appear and start to collude and protect each other. Then you will see their out circle of scammer supporters come in aka suchmoon, pharmacist, direposter, foxy, ultraelite, xtraelv, moronbozo... they will do all they can to derail or defend or cast doubt even upon observable instances.

This ring needs breaking up and crushing. A union is the only way really. Although as you can see even a couple of driven individuals armed  with observable instances can pretty much crush their bullshit whilst keeping within the boards rules.

Loyce seems to be advocating  a forum full of posts that have ZERO substance or corroborating evidence that support them and defending "free speech"  BUT then on the other hand claiming observable instances are TROLLING and should be stopped??

THERE needs to a sensible restriction upon baseless, non corroborated insults and swearing where the poster does not even bother presenting a supporting argument. Else the mass of low functioning tourettes laden scammer protecting spew drowns and out deters other posters from presenting the truth and this is also VERY counter productive to free speech.

Loyce seems to be one of tmans main appreciators here. He started the tman poetry thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0  ( that was in turn merited by ... you guessed it)

Tman himself admitted he can NOT present ANY examples of his original thought inspiring posts EVER... been here years and not EVEN ONE original thought provoking post of any substance or ANY major achievements that made any difference at all.

But rather TMAN claims - he is valuable because people find his swearing and sexual deviance plastered all over the forum entertaining. Sorry but that only the low functioning idiots that they themselves are unwilling to present any original thought inspiring posts and whom have never made any real achievements here that made any real difference.

The only people supporting Tmans blabbing swearing and sexual deviant garbage in the vast majority of their posts where there is no substance or corroborating evidence that validates it in any way are net negative and are likely found on each others trust includes or each others top 20 fans and recipients for merit and spamming highly paid sigs.  Think about that.

There is no point banning him just get him off DT and merit source and get a union to ensure the others supporting him and scamming and scammer supporting are removed also..

Oh dear, we have just scraped through the bottom of the barrel of tman supporters into the dirt below. Cabalism13 is here ... yuck.  You know they are getting desperate when they roll out that slobbering desperate wretch.

[Lauda]

Is anyone else not readying more than two words of these blobs, or is it just me?

[FruitsBasket]

Is anyone else not readying more than two words of these blobs, or is it just me?

It is just you 

[yogg]

Why didn't you reply to my question ? would the api key act as bitcoin private key or not? you could spend the btc with your api key.

I did. I will use shorter sentences from now on.
My reply was in my developed post. I will be more straightforward.

No, because I cannot import your API key to Bitcoin Core.

What you claim could be compared with saying that your credit card pin code is your bank account number.
Is it ?


The major and less subtle nuance, is that if I hold a private key, I am the only one to be able to spend the BTC.
If I hold an API key that allows me to spend funds on a BTC private key, then myself and the API operator can spend my funds.

This is all it boils down to.

[The-One-Above-All]

Why didn't you reply to my question ? would the api key act as bitcoin private key or not? you could spend the btc with your api key.

I did. I will use shorter sentences from now on.
My reply was in my developed post. I will be more straightforward.

No, because I cannot import your API key to Bitcoin Core.

What you claim could be compared with saying that your credit card pin code is your bank account number.
Is it ?


The major and less subtle nuance, is that if I hold a private key, I am the only one to be able to spend the BTC.
If I hold an API key that allows me to spend funds on a BTC private key, then myself and the API operator can spend my funds.

This is all it boils down to.

The above post is clearly derailing and should be reported. This is a thread to analyse the racism and needless/groundless false accusations and foul mouthed insults tman uses to silence people speaking the truth. That along with his auction scamming and supporting of other scammers and a very relevant self confessed use of trust abusing people to silence their whistle blowing.

All pretty damning stuff really.

[hilariousandco]

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Neither insults nor trolling is childish. That is not a valid argument and has been used ad-nauseam against both. It's fun to read if you're in the right mood, especially when it is on-point like here.

In your opinion, which I'd question if you think phrases like "pasta fucking pizza wanking twat" and obscene 'your mom' jokes aren't immature dialogue. Hardly witty insults are they? Regardless of how fun you think it is, he's clearly doing it to agitate and it's unnecessary and derailing threads.

[TMAN]

In your opinion, which I'd question if you think phrases like "pasta fucking pizza wanking twat" and obscene 'your mom' jokes aren't immature dialogue. Hardly witty insults are they? Regardless of how fun you think it is, he's clearly doing it to agitate and it's unnecessary and derailing threads.

I would ask you to read the whole dialog from the beginning but I know you don't have time for it - in short, he offers 794% roi on one thread, guaranteed 5% on another thread, insists an API Key is the same as a bitcoin private Key - then posts the same shit over and over and over. The user is a scammer, he is using an Alt to back himself up and all I want is to protect gullible users who are likely to fall for this nonsense and lose BTC.

my methods are far from normal as we all know - but it wont change the fact that I am correct, users need to be safeguarded from these idiots.

There is sparks claiming a 900BTC bankroll.. some naive users will fall for that shit. These users need protecting from thieves and con-men like OP. End of

[Lauda]

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Neither insults nor trolling is childish. That is not a valid argument and has been used ad-nauseam against both. It's fun to read if you're in the right mood, especially when it is on-point like here.

In your opinion, which I'd question if you think phrases like "pasta fucking pizza wanking twat" and obscene 'your mom' jokes aren't immature dialogue. Hardly witty insults are they? Regardless of how fun you think it is, he's clearly doing it to agitate and it's unnecessary and derailing threads.

That is a very common, proper way, of using British insults. I don't see how culture-differentiated way of insulting should be labelled childish. Are American insults childish too? As long as he's primarily on-topic, the insults should be deemed proper-use of the posting function (and not derailing exactly because it's on-topic). Solely insulting posts are, however, likely to be derailing (but this doesn't have to be the case either). You can answer a proper question, with a proper insult and it's still a valid response. Regarding complete derailing, I'm certain that we have some observable instances of much worse members that are not being dealt with. So why should TMAN?

[The-One-Above-All]

In your opinion, which I'd question if you think phrases like "pasta fucking pizza wanking twat" and obscene 'your mom' jokes aren't immature dialogue. Hardly witty insults are they? Regardless of how fun you think it is, he's clearly doing it to agitate and it's unnecessary and derailing threads.

I would ask you to read the whole dialog from the beginning but I know you don't have time for it - in short, he offers 794% roi on one thread, guaranteed 5% on another thread, insists an API Key is the same as a bitcoin private Key - then posts the same shit over and over and over. The user is a scammer, he is using an Alt to back himself up and all I want is to protect gullible users who are likely to fall for this nonsense and lose BTC.

my methods are far from normal as we all know - but it wont change the fact that I am correct, users need to be safeguarded from these idiots.

There is sparks claiming a 900BTC bankroll.. some naive users will fall for that shit. These users need protecting from thieves and con-men like OP. End of

So you are claiming he is a scammer because he is making claims you views as unrealistic?

But then you are a proven auction scammer?  don't you think confirmed scammers punishing " possible" future scammers is not going to work out well.

LOL at your excuse... how about the other ton of examples of your groundless, misleading, uncorroborated, false, needless, swearing foul language and sexual deviance  HERE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0

You defense falls flat on its face when you read all of that through https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0

And the fact you claim your prime value here is by swearing and people and screaming sexual deviance at them for entertainment??

You even admit that you CAN NOT present any examples of original thought provoking posts that made any real difference here that will stand up to scrutiny??

That is without all of your proven scamming and scammer supporting, extorting etc...

NET NEGATIVE without a doubt. Get him off DT and merit source, it is an insult to the rest of the forum such low functioning financially dangerous scum have such positions.


@lauda ... haha yes please demonstrate another member here that has this amount https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0
of swearing and sexually deviant garbage in light of the FACT  none of it has any substance that can be corroborated by observable instances.

When we call you a scamming, trust abusing, extorting, shady escrow , piece of filthy shit. We can CORROBORATE it with observable instances that confirm this is TRUE. Do you get it now scammer???

Tmans blathering and tourettes laded garbage he heaps on many members with ZERO evidence they have scammed or done anything wrong at all is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. His posts offer ZERO VALUE he does not even attempt to present a valid supporting argument based on evidence that is objectively verifiable.

You are a confirmed scammer colluding and defending another Confirmed scammer who you have EXTORTED with and trust abused with.

You are black listed from DT1 ( should be blacklisted from DT in full) and so should your auction scamming colluding pal TMAN>

Lauda is pretending that he can NOT differential between NEGATIVE DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE BASED UPON OBSERVABLE AND OBJECTIVELY VERIFIABLE instances of financially motivated wrong doing here.

and

Groundless, uncorroborated , valueless swearing and false accusations.

Don't fall for it. He knows the difference but will claim there is none.

[FruitsBasket]

This is just trolling. You can make your argument without resorting to this sort of childishness.

Neither insults nor trolling is childish. That is not a valid argument and has been used ad-nauseam against both. It's fun to read if you're in the right mood, especially when it is on-point like here.

In your opinion, which I'd question if you think phrases like "pasta fucking pizza wanking twat" and obscene 'your mom' jokes aren't immature dialogue. Hardly witty insults are they? Regardless of how fun you think it is, he's clearly doing it to agitate and it's unnecessary and derailing threads.

This is very common, proper way, of using British insults. I don't see how culture-differentiated way of insults should be labelled childish. Are American insults childish too? As long as he's primarily on-topic, the insults should be deemed proper-use of the posting function (and not derailing exactly because it's on-topic). Solely insulting posts are, however, likely to be derailing (but this doesn't have to be the case either). You can answer a proper question, with a proper insult and it's still a valid response. Regarding complete derailing, I'm certain that we have some observable instances of much worse members that are not being dealt with. So why should TMAN?

Do you really think insulting can be done in a proper way? Insulting is by its definition inappropriate. TMAN is using insults to cover up his baseless accusations and is trying to make a very big scene, which he succeeded in. I think TMAN is a troll that is jealous and enjoys to insult behind his internet anonymity. I think behaviour of TMAN and a few other DT users (which are not the main point of discussing now), is so based on TROLLING, INSULTING and HARMING others. Users like TMAN should be stopped before his behaviour becomes the norm.

[TMAN]

TMAN is using insults to cover up his baseless accusations

792% ROI on one thread
guaranteeing 5% per month return in another.

you have been here long enough to know the outcome of any offer like the above. just because you are too stupid to admit it due to the fact your nickers are so far up your arsehole after me calling you a cunt doesn't change it

[Lauda]

Do you really think insulting can be done in a proper way? Insulting is by its definition inappropriate.

What qualifies as an insult is also determined both by the individual social situation and by changing social mores. Thus on one hand the insulting "obscene invitations of a man to a strange girl can be the spicy endearments of a husband to his wife".

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insult.
For me, they're very much appropriate and fun. For you, and some others they may not be. This is why they're part of free-speech; controversy as Loyce said it.

[The-One-Above-All]

TMAN is using insults to cover up his baseless accusations

792% ROI on one thread
guaranteeing 5% per month return in another.

you have been here long enough to know the outcome of any offer like the above. just because you are too stupid to admit it due to the fact your nickers are so far up your arsehole after me calling you a cunt doesn't change it

errr what about these examples compiled by loycev https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.0


Claiming you would buy your own coin, from yourself. since it would be a great deal for you, if only you did not have too many already  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

shut up auction scammer, you do not brand people as scammers because you say his claims are unrealistic.

FIRST you are branded a scammer, then we can listen and compare his actions to your own and laudas prior actions to see if he meets the threshold of financially dangerous NEXT.


No more double standards.

@lauda is still trying to conflate

1. negative but objectively verifiable correct descriptions of observably financially dangerous behaviors

with

2. groundless, valueless, needless, uncorroborated, false claims expressed in foul language and sexual deviance.

that is the CORE DIFFERENCE between tman and other members that use insults.

Is calling a confirmed scammer a filthy dirty scamming piece of shit  

the same as

Calling a whistle blower who is outing a scammer via objectively verifiable observable instances.., a lying , trolling piece of shit.


One is true and net positive to the rest of the forum, the other is FALSE, LYING and assisting scammers and net negative.

NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME .... GET IT NOW.

[Ligareaux]

Is anyone else not readying more than two words of these blobs, or is it just me?

just you

[Flash Cunt]

TMAN adds colour to the forum. So is adding colour the new definition of racist. Many of these words from the British colonial days are now part of the global english language. For example, how many of you use the expression " I don't give a dam" (note the spelling ), but don't undertsand it's origin. The dam was the smallest coin in the Indian currency in the colonial days, so is using that phrase racist?

[PrimeNumber7]

No absolutely do not ban someone for being mean to you or for using language you don’t like.

I don’t endorse using the kind of profanity that TMAN uses as much as he does, but he absolutely has the right to be profane. If you don’t like it, you can say something to him and he can choose if he wants to listen to you. You can decide you don’t want to do business with him if you believe he is unprofessional.

You can also not read what he writes by adding him to your ignore list and his posts will be hidden from you.

If TMAN is banned for using mean language, who is to say you wouldn’t get banned for saying something that someone else doesn’t like.

This place is not a safe space.

[suchmoon]

Quickseller defending TMAN... now I can die in peace knowing that I've seen it all.

Just a quick note regarding OP's feigned snowflakery - he was perfectly fine insulting everyone who disagreed with him, until TMAN came along. A taste of his own medicine if you will. Absolutely nothing wrong with that although I would prefer it all in one shit-slinging thread instead of having half of may watchlist spammed with this nonsense.

[The-One-Above-All]

Quickseller defending TMAN... now I can die in peace knowing that I've seen it all.

Just a quick note regarding OP's feigned snowflakery - he was perfectly fine insulting everyone who disagreed with him, until TMAN came along. A taste of his own medicine if you will. Absolutely nothing wrong with that although I would prefer it all in one shit-slinging thread instead of having half of may watchlist spammed with this nonsense.

Don't see quickseller defending tman anywhere?

[xolxol]

If their kind has done anything wrong it is GOOD,but if others ,nah you're out and you'll get red tagged as usual theymos wont do actions taken for granted like the lauda's gang abuses.

[TheNewAnon135246]

If their kind has done anything wrong it is GOOD,but if others ,nah you're out and you'll get red tagged as usual theymos wont do actions taken for granted like the lauda's gang abuses.

Is 'Lauda's gang' still a thing? I thought we were past that bullshit after Lauda was removed from DT1.

[Lauda]

If their kind has done anything wrong it is GOOD,but if others ,nah you're out and you'll get red tagged as usual theymos wont do actions taken for granted like the lauda's gang abuses.

Is 'Lauda's gang' still a thing? I thought we were past that bullshit after Lauda was removed from DT1.

Me removing myself from DT is insufficient as I control theymos, clearly.

[TMAN]

It’s my gang now.. I’m winning the TOAA poll after Lauda anyway.

The king is dead. Long live the king

[DireWolfM14]

Is 'Lauda's gang' still a thing? I thought we were past that bullshit after Lauda was removed from DT1.

Was John Gotti no longer the Don just because he was incarcerated? 

[The-One-Above-All]

If their kind has done anything wrong it is GOOD,but if others ,nah you're out and you'll get red tagged as usual theymos wont do actions taken for granted like the lauda's gang abuses.

Is 'Lauda's gang' still a thing? I thought we were past that bullshit after Lauda was removed from DT1.

Yeah because Lauda's token effort removal ( so he just remains on DT2 anyway) totally convinced us that


1. you don't all merit each other
2. all include each other on DT
3. all fix it so only you guys have the required trust/merit requirements for the highest paying sigs
4. all collude on every thread (like this)
5. employ double standards where scammers on DT are good guys and deserve to be on default trust but those that commit far lesser evils are given red tags/flags


Yep totally no collusion and no gang now lauda a multiple confirmed scammer/scam support/trust abuser/probable extortionist/shady escrow was taken off DT1 but still sits there on DT2....


NOTHING CHANGED


Besides let's keep on topic here, tmans baseless, valueless, non corroborated nor validated tourettes laded low functioning spew + undeniable scamming, scam supporting, and self confessed trust abuse of whistle blowers certainly needs removing from DT and merit source.

[stompix]

Your definition of what you think a private key is, is irrelevant.

~ignored~

An API key isn't a private key, because I cannot import it in Bitcoin Core and spend my BTC.

Are you guys serious?
Three months and you're still trying to teach this guy the difference between an api key and a private key?
Does any of you really think at this point he is listening to what you're saying?

4 topics in reputation, 2 in scams accusation, and now one shitlong useless debate in meta.
What's the point of debating with one that doesn't want to?

Honestly, within my two years in the forum, I have never seen a single user get banned because of trolling. I saw lots of complaints on trolling and request of bans on trollers (especially the one who trolls all casinos - we all know who he is) but there is no ban case I saw with my eyes.

I just hope that theymos might remember one day what he said two years ago and take one more look at what the onebeloweverything is doing:

He has several accounts all banned for ban evasion. It seems that the underlying offense which caused him to initially get into trouble (and often the thing which causes his alts to get noticed) is excessive multi-posting. But when he was warned and/or temporarily banned for this minor thing, he kept evading his bans. This forum cannot operate unless its few rules are followed, so ignoring the warnings and temporary bans that you receive and continuing to do the same stuff is unacceptable. People who do so are not welcome here.

His bans will not automatically expire, and any future alts we see from him will be permabanned. I may manually reconsider his ban if he promises to actually try not to break forum rules. The rules are not meant to silence anyone, but to keep the forum usable and fair. When someone multi-posts excessively, it monopolizes a thread in a way which harms everyone else's ability to communicate. Based on his posts in this thread, I think that he will just continue to break rules if unbanned, so I will not unban him at this time.

[eddie13]

they're part of free-speech

Is this the same

I am completely against freedom of speech it is used by virtue signallers like eddie13

Lauda?

Well hell, let me virtue signal some more..

I do not think TMAN should be banned for his vulgarities or "racism"..

He has quite the vocabulary of, at times humerus but usually only self-degrading, vulgar comebacks, like middle school, and displays some mild racism, but this should not get him banned..

Everyone sees him and is free to make their own judgement about him.. He looks the way he makes himself look..

Actually I think this is very far from banworthy, and one could go much much further than that and still have the right to say it..


@TMAN I think you should calm it down on the CP "pizza" references though.. That is a bit uncouth offhandedly implying someone is such a criminal just to make a jab at them..
A bit below the belt, wouldn't you agree?

All you guys hate it when anyone implies that Vod is a pedo unfoundedly.. You should hold that same standard here..

pizza wanking twat

neh..
cringey..

I don't think you should get banned for it either, but, possibly something to think about..

[CryptoSparks]

Your definition of what you think a private key is, is irrelevant.

~ignored~

An API key isn't a private key, because I cannot import it in Bitcoin Core and spend my BTC.

Are you guys serious?
Three months and you're still trying to teach this guy the difference between an api key and a private key?
Does any of you really think at this point he is listening to what you're saying?

4 topics in reputation, 2 in scams accusation, and now one shitlong useless debate in meta.
What's the point of debating with one that doesn't want to?

Honestly, within my two years in the forum, I have never seen a single user get banned because of trolling. I saw lots of complaints on trolling and request of bans on trollers (especially the one who trolls all casinos - we all know who he is) but there is no ban case I saw with my eyes.

I just hope that theymos might remember one day what he said two years ago and take one more look at what the onebeloweverything is doing:

He has several accounts all banned for ban evasion. It seems that the underlying offense which caused him to initially get into trouble (and often the thing which causes his alts to get noticed) is excessive multi-posting. But when he was warned and/or temporarily banned for this minor thing, he kept evading his bans. This forum cannot operate unless its few rules are followed, so ignoring the warnings and temporary bans that you receive and continuing to do the same stuff is unacceptable. People who do so are not welcome here.

His bans will not automatically expire, and any future alts we see from him will be permabanned. I may manually reconsider his ban if he promises to actually try not to break forum rules. The rules are not meant to silence anyone, but to keep the forum usable and fair. When someone multi-posts excessively, it monopolizes a thread in a way which harms everyone else's ability to communicate. Based on his posts in this thread, I think that he will just continue to break rules if unbanned, so I will not unban him at this time.

Is because they cannot attack in any other way my bot's 100% win rate with over 90 wins in 3 months and +40% ROI ( all easy to verify via the read only api key)
so they want to pass a developer for a dumb guy that doesn't know an api key is not a bitcoin private key by spamming a partial quote out of context.

I will stand until death to my api key definition:

An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.

WIKIPEDIA



In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out(2FA rekt)... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals without having direct access to the funds.

they're part of free-speech

Is this the same

I am completely against freedom of speech it is used by virtue signallers like eddie13

Lauda?

This proves that i'm dealing with an organized group of hypocrites liars that spam the same lies over and over again in group then protect each other.
I've been fighting this since may 2019, yet i keep winning and users keep joining.







I WILL NEVER BEND THE KNEES. NEVER

[eddie13]

-

This proves that i'm dealing with an organized group of hypocrites liars that spam the same lies over and over again in group then protect each other.

Their is a hint of truth to some of it but far from what you would likely describe..

I tried defending you both when you still seemed possibly legit and just discriminated against, but you chose to continue to be hardheaded jackasses, not willing to reason, and your claims have gotten less believable..

I've been fighting this since may 2019

Noob..
You are a noob..

You think you are going to waltz in here and be a hotshot just by arguing without proving your claims, and make some quite remarkable claims.. Not going to happen..
Your PR is shit..
If your product is worth a shit then I am sorry for your ignorance because you screwed the pooch here good with your demonstration and personality..

Lurk moar..

[TwitchySeal]

TMAN makes vulgarity a fine art.  It would be a real shame if he wasn't allowed to share his art with us.

[CryptoSparks]

-

This proves that i'm dealing with an organized group of hypocrites liars that spam the same lies over and over again in group then protect each other.

Their is a hint of truth to some of it but far from what you would likely describe..

I tried defending you both when you still seemed possibly legit and just discriminated against, but you chose to continue to be hardheaded jackasses, not willing to reason, and your claims have gotten less believable..

I've been fighting this since may 2019

Noob..
You are a noob..

You think you are going to waltz in here and be a hotshot just by arguing without proving your claims, and make some quite remarkable claims.. Not going to happen..
Your PR is shit..
If your product is worth a shit then I am sorry for your ignorance because you screwed the pooch here good with your demonstration and personality..

Lurk moar..

NOT PROVING MY CLAIMS ? I don't claim shit, all data is free to access.

I opened a trading diary on september and all trades are free to access. What do you want more?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182103.0

Still having doubts?
ACCESS THE LIVE OPEN ACCOUNT VIA THE FOLLOWING API KEY:
ID:

Code:

_rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI

SECRET:

Code:

V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE

HOW TO VERIFY ?
Simply create account at https://www.coinmarketman.com
and link the above api key to see all trade and balance history

[TMAN]

You claim to have a 900BTC bankroll yet you don’t. You are a liar.

You offer 794% roi yet have no trade history to prove it. (Your bot is 2 months old)

You ask for a 5BTC loan and guarantee 5% per month returns and 10% of principle repayment.

You also do not understand what a bitcoin private key is and continue to post a link from Wikipedia.

You are a smelly cunt as well

[CryptoSparks]

I can keep replying to same shit over and over again , yet he/she will post again ignoring the replies, hoping someone that doesnt have time to read the full flood will believe it.

You claim to have a 900BTC bankroll yet you don’t. You are a liar.

CHARTS
SINCE JANUARY 2018







Short reply is: Graphs are generated by the backtest engine with 100 BTC as initial investment to demonstrate to big partners how Arakne manages big capitals thanks to her safe money management. The initial investment value doesn't change the final ROI. Furthermore, would be inaccurate to show graphs of current funds managed by Arakne because every client has his own private bitmex account, where is free to deposit and withdraw at will. So tracking the bot performance based on that data would be totally pointless. This is why performance is correctly tracked by the backtest engine, which trades can be verified on the OPEN LIVE ACCOUNT by accessing it with the API KEY.

You offer 794% roi yet have no trade history to prove it. (Your bot is 2 months old)

STATS
SINCE JANUARY 2018


   
PROFIT   714.031707319344
FEE   80.15265262367335
FEE_BONUS   80.15265262367336
ROI   794.1843599430167
TRADES_ROI   212.64606867344028
WINS   695
LOSS   21
WINS_LIST   […]
LOSS_LIST   […]
AVG_WIN   0.460638239182634
AVG_LOSS   -5.118928931356654
WIN_RATEO   97.06703910614524
BANKROLL   894.1843599430167
INVESTMENT   100






DOWNLOAD FULL STATS FILE

You ask for a 5BTC loan and guarantee 5% per month returns and 10% of principle repayment.

I get paid 30% of net profit after 30 days. No entry fee!

You also do not understand what a bitcoin private key is and continue to post a link from Wikipedia.

Here my guide on API KEY

An application programming interface key (API key) is a unique string of alphanumeric characters transmitted as part of an API request that authenticate the source of the API request. API keys can be of two types: Public API key and Private API key.
The API key often acts as both a unique identifier and a secret token for authentication, and will generally have a set of access rights on the API associated with it.

WIKIPEDIA



In very simple words, an API key identifies you on the service platform that generated the key. (instead of using email and password uses the key to log in)
An API key can be anything and do anything, simply because it depends on what kind of API generated it, but usually is used for remote access and data tracking.

Likewise crypto wallets, there are public and private API keys with the difference that API keys are more like tools that adapt based on your needs.
For example, if you want to give access at others to selected data/privileges, you simply need to create a Public API Key which authenticates them to access your account and do nothing more than what you allowed. On the contrary, if you want to give full privileges and access to all data , you would create a Private API Key, which of course should be for your use only.

Another important difference is that API KEYS can be disabled and enabled at will, which is something very handy.



API KEYS IN TRADING:

API Keys are very handy when trading, even if you are still trading in frontend, and know nothing about programming, you should always have a private key enabled and stored securely offline, just in case anything bad happens to the frontend of the exchange and you urgently need to entry/exit a trade or even worst you locked yourself out(2FA rekt)... having the API Key allows you to have a way back in the account via terminal.

Usually exchanges offer the following privileges settings for API Keys:
- Order ( you can create and cancel orders via key)
- Cancel (you can only cancel orders via key)
- ReadOnly ( you can only read unencrypted data, such as balance/trade history/orders/markets data via key but you can't interact with any)
- Withdraw ( you can send a withdrawal request which still needs to be confirmed via email)
- CIDR (useful for ip filtering , read more here)

API KEYS are also commonly used by big Brokers, Hedge Funds and Quant Shops to safely manage their clients' capitals without having direct access to the funds.

[TMAN]

You keep posting the same shit then son. I’ll keep posing in your thread how all your stats are make believe, it can be a fun game for us both. I got all the time in the world to stop memebers being scammed by your incorrect and make believe numbers and foreskin pullback tests

[CryptoSparks]

You keep posting the same shit then son. I’ll keep posing in your thread how all your stats are make believe, it can be a fun game for us both. I got all the time in the world to stop memebers being scammed by your incorrect and make believe numbers and foreskin pullback tests

Keep my thread in first page for ever girl 

Also get ready because yesterday Arakne closed 5 more wins, TRADES UPDATE is coming, and i have a special gif for you

[TMAN]

API KEYS

Please use one of your API keys to Sign a bitcoin address with more than 10BTC in it and post it here then.

once you have managed to do that everyone here will leave you alone

[mgtech]

Please use one of your API keys to Sign a bitcoin address with more than 10BTC in it and post it here then.

once you have managed to do that everyone here will leave you alone

Herp derp i kNoW hOw ApI wOrKs I wErK in IhTeh

I thought you knew how API keys work? How are you supposed to sign an address using a bitmex API key?

[TMAN]

How are you supposed to sign an address using a bitmex API key?

oh wow - so one of the fools supporters is here, hasn't read all the info and backs me up.

ask your pal - he is the prick who has been saying an API key can act as a bitcoin private Key you window licking punk

[mgtech]

Please use one of your API keys to Sign a bitcoin address with more than 10BTC in it and post it here then.

once you have managed to do that everyone here will leave you alone

How are you supposed to sign an address using a bitmex API key?

oh wow - so one of the fools supporters is here, hasn't read all the info and backs me up.

ask your pal - he is the prick who has been saying an API key can act as a bitcoin private Key you window licking punk

You're saying you can sign a bitcoin address using a bitmex API key. It's right there, 2-3 messages up. That's just plain retarded, read up on how API keys work.

[TMAN]

That's just plain retarded, read up on how API keys work.

yes I know that, I know that very well - hence me asking your twat of a mate to do it - as its fucking impossible, yet he states repeatedly that an API key is the same as a bitcoin private key you fucking useless toiletbrush twat


EDIT

just to spoon feed it to you, as I see you struggle to get the full story before commenting like a cuntsmouth

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

[mgtech]

How are you supposed to sign an address using a bitmex API key?

oh wow - so one of the fools supporters is here, hasn't read all the info and backs me up.

ask your pal - he is the prick who has been saying an API key can act as a bitcoin private Key you window licking punk

If you're going to quote an older messages at least show the context.

Secondly, an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key because it can be enabled for withdraw.

It doesn't state it's a private key for a bitcoin address, that's an assumption you have made. An API key with secret can be used to trigger withdrawals in bitmex though, if privileges assigned to the key and secret are too relax. That's a valid statement. 3rd party APIs typically separate their APIs based on the public part, where information is not specific to a single user, and the private part - which exposes access on the user's account level.

Think you can control your aspy fits long enough to read through this?
https://www.bitmex.com/app/restAPI#Authentication

[TMAN]

~

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184720.msg52458900#msg52458900

read that thread by your pal - then come back here and say sorry

you are a fucking idiot. same as cryptospazfucktoid or whatever his name is who has a bot that is shilling at +794% roi yet your numbers prove 1 month giving a negative 5.8%... that is correct people - this fool believes all the hype..

[mgtech]

~

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184720.msg52458900#msg52458900

read that thread by your pal - then come back here and say sorry

you are a fucking idiot. same as cryptospazfucktoid or whatever his name is who has a bot that is shilling at +794% roi yet your numbers prove 1 month giving a negative 5.8%... that is correct people - this fool believes all the hype..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98986;sa=showPosts

Read your own messages - then come back and say sorry I'm in 8% profit and it's not even a full month yet, I'm perfectly happy with that. I doubt you can offer me anything close to that with numbers to back it up.

[TMAN]

Read your own messages - then come back and say sorry I'm in 8% profit and it's not even a full month yet, I'm perfectly happy with that. I doubt you can offer me anything close to that with numbers to back it up.

I do not need to read my own messages you spunkguzzler I just wrote them so I know what I wrote - you are the one with comprehension issues.

$6.2 *.7 (his fee) = $4.2 = $4.2 profit - so that is 4.2%

now - we take into account the $10 VPS fee...

$4.20 - $10 = -$5.80 yes a loss of $5.80

based on $100 starting minus the $5.80 loss leaves a grand total of $94.20 you stupid shitstain wank cunt.

anyone joining the service paying his advertised costs will lose money..

he tells you to invest $100. you invest $100, if by miracle he keeps up the same return and you make $6.20 before costs you actually will walk away a loser to the tune of $5.80

it is not so hard to understand - im sure I could explain this to a chimp using rocks and bits of wood and 9 out of 10 chimps would understand the simple math.

but keep at it son, I'm sure your school math teacher is working at maccie D's now if you are unable to comprehend what I am saying

[mgtech]

Read your own messages - then come back and say sorry I'm in 8% profit and it's not even a full month yet, I'm perfectly happy with that. I doubt you can offer me anything close to that with numbers to back it up.

I do not need to read my own messages you spunkguzzler I just wrote them so I know what I wrote - you are the one with comprehension issues.

$6.2 *.7 (his fee) = $4.2 = $4.2 profit - so that is 4.2%

now - we take into account the $10 VPS fee...

$4.20 - $10 = -$5.80 yes a loss of $5.80

based on $100 starting minus the $5.80 loss leaves a grand total of $94.20 you stupid shitstain wank cunt.

anyone joining the service paying his advertised costs will lose money..

he tells you to invest $100. you invest $100, if by miracle he keeps up the same return and you make $6.20 before costs you actually will walk away a loser to the tune of $5.80

it is not so hard to understand - im sure I could explain this to a chimp using rocks and bits of wood and 9 out of 10 chimps would understand the simple math.

but keep at it son, I'm sure your school math teacher is working at maccie D's now if you are unable to comprehend what I am saying

No VPS fee, so:
$6.2 *.7 (his fee) = $4.2 = $4.2 profit

Go back to school, maybe you won't need to scrape the barrel anymore by advertising for gambling sites?

[TMAN]

No VPS fee, so:
$6.2 *.7 (his fee) = $4.2 = $4.2 profit

PAGE ONE POST ONE OF HIS THREAD - EVERYONE MUST TAKE A VPS @ $10 per month....

how special are you? are you really that retarded?

you got a special deal as you are his mate/alt/suck his poo out of his arse... whatever the story I don't really care.

for anyone else signing up they will lose money - my point stands, you have proved my point.. stop fighting with the big boys ok pajeet

[mgtech]

No VPS fee, so:
$6.2 *.7 (his fee) = $4.2 = $4.2 profit

suck his poo out of his arse...

How old are you, 5? Who even talks like that 

PAGE ONE POST ONE OF HIS THREAD - EVERYONE MUST TAKE A VPS @ $10 per month....

Either do what I do and ask nicely, he might waiver the VPS fee. Or, trade a bigger amount where profits outweigh any running costs. It's basic math, which you would understand if you were old enough to finish school. 

[TMAN]

Either do what I do and ask nicely, he might waiver the VPS fee. Or, trade a bigger amount where profits outweigh any running costs. It's basic math, which you would understand if you were old enough to finish school.  

He states on his advert - $100 max to start and $10 VPS fee

based on that, adding in your returns it is a loss making venture not a 794% ROI investment

Facts based on his advert and your returns.

$100 invested. or 0.0102BTC


0.0009BTC profit - we all agree on that - at the moment = $6.53 (using USD as its simpler for retards like the OP and mgtech to understand)

$6.53 *.7 (his fee of 30%) - $4.57

so that is a 4.57% return in 1 month - on the face of it amazing - but lets dig deeper..
Post 1 states that everyone must take a $10 VPS (also please check the title +794% ROI!!!)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182103.msg52370123#msg52370123

so $4.57 - $10 (VPS FEE) = -$5.43
******

you read that right folks - negative $5.43 or -5.42% from the initial $100 invested - now correct me if I am wrong here but $100 taking away the loss -$5.43 = $94.57

$100 principle, following all the rules that the bot maker asks you to follow gives you a new figure of $94.57 after 30 days!

how am I wrong here? this is for new clients, not those who have asked to not pay a VPS fee as a special privilege

[stompix]

Wow, the discussion has hit a new low....
The bot has made $4.2 in profit, thus this amazing businesscam must be protected at all cost by hundred of new accounts from the evil gang!

He claims he has 800BTC, he claims he is doing xxx% revenue monthly, he is posting screenshots of people in telegram thanking him for this wonderful  bot...what's the point of staying around?
With the 747% return in a few years, we will have to raise the limit to 210 million coins.

Probably he likes you TMAN a lot, and that's why he is still sticking around!
Can you find it in your heart to *!@#* ignore him?  

[TMAN]

The bot has made $4.2 in profit

Dude - that profit is only because he got the VPS for free - for everyone else OP is charging $10 for a $1 VPS per month taking it into a loss.

these children never learn, promise 794% ROI in the sales thread, then prof of a negative return.

what fools

[stompix]

!

Dude - that profit is only because he got the VPS for free - for everyone else OP is charging $10 for a $1 VPS per month taking it into a loss.

Yeah, I know, I read the damn discussion although I don't have a clue why I went through it again especially since I made that promise to myself yesterday. As for the 4$ I was sarcastic, we were talking about 60 million or whatever and suddenly we are arguing about 20 or 40 cents.

Tag him, tag his shills if you want but I have seriously no clue how you still find the energy and why are you trying to deal with every obvious sock puppet here! This will never end anyhow and furthermore the topic wasn't about his ultrabot , it was about your poetry and I'm pretty sure nobody will get banned from this nor will theymos give the slightest x about it.

Let the topic die, I'm certain nobody that usually reads meta would fall for his "business".

[TMAN]

furthermore the topic wasn't about his ultrabot

no it was because I was rude to him as I was pointing out what a scamman he is - his shills  as well -fuck them. its all relevant

[mgtech]

The bot has made $4.2 in profit

Dude - that profit is only because he got the VPS for free - for everyone else OP is charging $10 for a $1 VPS per month taking it into a loss.

these children never learn, promise 794% ROI in the sales thread, then prof of a negative return.

what fools

No one said you must only invest 100 USD. I made the decision to invest 100 USD to see how this works, on the condition I don't have to pay a VPS fee. I'm roughly 3 weeks into using his service and I'm at a slow and steady profit, exactly as advertised. TMAN's just making noise because he's bored at primary school and mummy paid for his iPhone to troll people while bored.

[TMAN]

YES PEOPLE ARE LOSING MONEY WITH THIS SICK 100% WIN RATE-  

-30% fee to you
-$10 VPS to you

end user loses -5% on $100 you make $12

dickhead it ain't hard to work out

TMAN's just making noise because he's bored at primary school and mummy paid for his iPhone to troll people while bored.

Well seeing as I have been here for coming upto 7 years then I must of been the earliest bitcoin investor ever!

Im pointing out the lies of your leader and the stupid little profit you make, you cant even get a big mac with that money

twatmonkeysnotguzzler

[ChiBitCTy]

You know who else had a "100% win rate" in the beginning...Bitconnect.  Trading bots 

[CryptoSparks]

You know who else had a "100% win rate" in the beginning...Bitconnect.  Trading bots  

they wish they had my bots, would still be in business.

YES PEOPLE ARE LOSING MONEY WITH THIS SICK 100% WIN RATE- 

-30% fee to you
-$10 VPS to you

end user loses -5% on $100 you make $12

dickhead it ain't hard to work out

TMAN's just making noise because he's bored at primary school and mummy paid for his iPhone to troll people while bored.

Well seeing as I have been here for coming upto 7 years then I must of been the earliest bitcoin investor ever!

Im pointing out the lies of your leader and the stupid little profit you make, you cant even get a big mac with that money

twatmonkeysnotguzzler

keeps ignoring on purpose the screenshots of people with 1 BTC or 2 BTC that make 35VPS fee per trade

[TMAN]

keeps ignoring on purpose the screenshots of people with 1 BTC or 2 BTC that make 35VPS fee per trade

No one has that amount trusted with you - if they did they would be here posting backing you up not some Pajeet fuck who is happy making a big mac in a month

you stupid retarded chopped foreskin

I have proven you do not return 794% as per your advert - you are a liar and a snake oil salesman - 900BTC bankroll? I bet you couldnt buy 900 double cheeseburgers with your fucking roll you mincepiewanker

[mgtech]

YES PEOPLE ARE LOSING MONEY WITH THIS SICK 100% WIN RATE-  

-30% fee to you
-$10 VPS to you

end user loses -5% on $100 you make $12

dickhead it ain't hard to work out

TMAN's just making noise because he's bored at primary school and mummy paid for his iPhone to troll people while bored.

Well seeing as I have been here for coming upto 7 years then I must of been the earliest bitcoin investor ever!

Im pointing out the lies of your leader and the stupid little profit you make, you cant even get a big mac with that money

twatmonkeysnotguzzler

Do your math on 1000 USD instead of 100, see if the VPS fee is still a loss. If you can handle that many significant figures with that teeny weeny brain of yours.

[CryptoSparks]

keeps ignoring on purpose the screenshots of people with 1 BTC or 2 BTC that make 35VPS fee per trade

No one has that amount trusted with you - if they did they would be here posting backing you up not some Pajeet fuck who is happy making a big mac in a month

you stupid retarded chopped foreskin

I have proven you do not return 794% as per your advert - you are a liar and a snake oil salesman - 900BTC bankroll? I bet you couldnt buy 900 double cheeseburgers with your fucking roll you mincepiewanker

I could show you a cat and you would yell all day long is a dog and im a liar!
Come here and ask people how much they have invested, cunt!

https://t.me/Arakne

[mgtech]

keeps ignoring on purpose the screenshots of people with 1 BTC or 2 BTC that make 35VPS fee per trade

No one has that amount trusted with you - if they did they would be here posting backing you up not some Pajeet fuck who is happy making a big mac in a month

you stupid retarded chopped foreskin

I have proven you do not return 794% as per your advert - you are a liar and a snake oil salesman - 900BTC bankroll? I bet you couldnt buy 900 double cheeseburgers with your fucking roll you mincepiewanker

I could show you a cat and you would yell all day long is a dog and im a liar!
Come here and ask people how much they have invested, cunt!

https://t.me/Arakne

He doesn't have the balls not at his age

[TMAN]

Do your math on 1000 USD instead of 100, see if the VPS fee is still a loss. If you can handle that many significant figures with that teeny weeny brain of yours.

How can I do the math on $1K usd when I don't know market depth on bitmex for the trades? its simple enough to nick 0.5% on a poxy trade worth less than a can of coke - try doing it with many multiples more, hence why "backtesting" a bankroll is impossible you fucking soggy biscuit.

all this hypothetical shit you and him are posting is a load of horsecum - actually put your money up and show me results and I will apologise and eat my words - but you wont, he wont - none of you will as you dont have the  fucking money - those who have the BTC, IE me and other senior members wont do it as its all a load of crap.

what is so confusing? stick 1BTC in and show me results or fuck off back to pajeet town, find a nice fat bird and split the big mac you earned in profits off this bot with her.

[mgtech]

fuck off back to pajeet town, find a nice fat bird and split the big mac you earned in profits off this bot with her.

Why don't you visit your mother yourself, instead of telling me to? Can't afford to buy her a big mac yourself?

Do your math on 1000 USD instead of 100, see if the VPS fee is still a loss. If you can handle that many significant figures with that teeny weeny brain of yours.

all this hypothetical shit you and him are posting is a load of horsecum - actually put your money up and show me results and I will apologise and eat my words - but you wont, he wont - none of you will as you dont have the  fucking money - those who have the BTC, IE me and other senior members wont do it as its all a load of crap.

Well that's the first semi-rational thing I've ever read from you. Up until now it feels like you've eating nothing but scrabble sets and shat them out into your responses, so congratulations. It seems like you are in-fact capable of some form of logic, even if limited and rare! I'm truly impressed.

I'm upping my budget at the end of my first month, then we can see whether it remains consistent. I doubt it'll make a difference with someone as aspy as you, but at the end of the day I don't really care.

This is working well with a smaller & safer test budget, safe and slow, and I'm looking forward to upping my budget more in the next month. 

[TMAN]

Why don't you visit your mother yourself, instead of telling me to? Can't afford to buy her a big mac yourself?

my mother has been dead for 30 years but if you are into that shit you are welcome to find her grave, dig her up and fuck her decrepit corpse, your call fella.

This is working well with a smaller & safer test budget, safe and slow, and I'm looking forward to upping my budget more in the next month. 

Fuck me how retarded are you - the same bot going for the same trades with a larger BR means less trades in a thin market - you and the bot maker really have no idea do you? all you fucking newbies think crypto is a get rich scheme when it isn't, its about freedom - its the future - but you keep 2bobing with your mate here and I guarantee neither of you will ever actually earn 794% roi on anything.

Members like me where here in the days when there was LTC, BTC and PPC and maybe 2-3 other alts on BTC-E, hype in crypto was people talking about Gox adding LTC, we have seen more than you ever will, lost BTC that people like you would cry about - look up ASIC MINER, LABCOIN - some of the early securities in this space - fuck check out Bitcoins savings and trust..

scammers, shills, snake oil salesmen - none last, none delivered what was promised - but don't take that from me, find out yourself son.

[mgtech]

my mother has been dead for 30 years but if you are into that shit you are welcome to find her grave, dig her up and fuck her decrepit corpse, your call fella.

Delicious.

This is working well with a smaller & safer test budget, safe and slow, and I'm looking forward to upping my budget more in the next month. 

Fuck me how retarded are you - the same bot going for the same trades with a larger BR means less trades in a thin market - you and the bot maker really have no idea do you? all you fucking newbies think crypto is a get rich scheme when it isn't, its about freedom - its the future - but you keep 2bobing with your mate here and I guarantee neither of you will ever actually earn 794% roi on anything.

Members like me where here in the days when there was LTC, BTC and PPC and maybe 2-3 other alts on BTC-E, hype in crypto was people talking about Gox adding LTC, we have seen more than you ever will, lost BTC that people like you would cry about - look up ASIC MINER, LABCOIN - some of the early securities in this space - fuck check out Bitcoins savings and trust..

scammers, shills, snake oil salesmen - none last, none delivered what was promised - but don't take that from me, find out yourself son.

Oh my apologies grandma, hope I didn't get your saggy knorks in all knotted up for disrespecting your age. As amusing as reading your insane logical loop is, I doubt you can grasp how market depth works nor how you can manage entries & exists at larger volumes while also managing risk. There's no value in anything you say, besides perhaps the slightest entertainment 

[philipma1957]

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ahh poor princess, worried that I am onto you and you lies and misinterpretation?

listen here you stupid little pasta fucking pizza wanking twat - an API Key is not a Bitcoin private key and you offering a guaranteed return for a bot is stupid. add onto the fact you want people to load a Bitmex account and give you full access gives me the right to call you anything I fucking want.

you are a twat - a cunt - a waste of space and a scammer. If this forum wasn't full of greedy and innocent people I wouldn't have to call you out, but I do - same as any other person who has spoken out against you.

xxx laters sexy pants

EDIT - for more context.

an API KEY, based on its privileges, can act as a private key

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184519.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182103.0

why don’t you like pizza and pasta?

[TMAN]

why don’t you like pizza and pasta?

I love pizza and pasta I enjoy almost all Italian food and enjoy the company of 99% of the Italian people I have met. I just dislike the small percentage of Italian people who can never admit they are wrong,

[Jet Cash]

Now I understand why he has a problem with TMAN. I looked up the definition of TMAN, and it seems he is an enforcement agent in the US treasury. With all those massive profits, he must be quite concerned about the tax liabilities.

[o_e_l_e_o]

That's strange - I thought he was a large village of 1000 people in Czechia.

Must say TMAN, you do look quite picturesque. (Sorry JC, I know you hate pictures, but TMAN was just too lovely not to share.)

[TMAN]

Now I understand why he has a problem with TMAN. I looked up the definition of TMAN, and it seems he is an enforcement agent in the US treasury. With all those massive profits, he must be quite concerned about the tax liabilities.

That's strange - I thought he was a large village of 1000 people in Czechia.

Must say TMAN, you do look quite picturesque:

legends the pair of you...

[marlboroza]

cunt

Did you just call TMAN a cunt in a thread where you are complaining that he called you a cunt?  Sounds like asking for self exclusion but I might be wrong 

[Jet Cash]

Sorry JC, I know you hate pictures, but TMAN was just too lovely not to share

I don't mind pictures in social threads, and I think this counts as a social thread.

I can see the treasury definition of TMAN, but naming a whole village after him? How many wives has he got?

[TMAN]

cunt

Did you just call TMAN a cunt in a thread where you are complaining that he called you a cunt?  Sounds like asking for self exclusion but I might be wrong 

Wow missed that.. good eyes dude

[Jet Cash]

I'm never quite sure why "cunt" is an insult. I have a great affection for them, and I enjoy intimate encounters with them. At least they don't argue with you, or eat your food.

[Foxpup]

I'm never quite sure why "cunt" is an insult.

There's a big difference between having a cunt and being one. Same goes for dicks and arseholes, by the way.

[TMAN]

I'm never quite sure why "cunt" is an insult.

There's a big difference between having a cunt and being one. Same goes for dicks and arseholes, by the way.

More arseholes than there are dicks in the world. Although combined dicks and cunts equate to the total sum of arseholes. Then there is op of course

[Foxpup]

Then there is op of course

Yes, but "rectovaginal fistula" doesn't roll off the tongue so nicely.

[TMAN]

Then there is op of course

Yes, but "rectovaginal fistula" doesn't roll off the tongue so nicely.

Winner... best insult in the whole thread

[Jet Cash]

More arseholes than there are dicks in the world. Although combined dicks and cunts equate to the total sum of arseholes. Then there is op of course

Do you mean the op that turns a dick into a cunt? That has never appealed to me.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Honestly, this entire thread all I can think of is this - https://youtu.be/y2GwrR-4Q9E?t=45 (NSFW).

[suchmoon]

You know who else had a "100% win rate" in the beginning...Bitconnect.  Trading bots  

they wish they had my bots, would still be in business.

They wouldn't. It was a ponzi scam. I'm trying to think of reasons why someone would be sticking up for Bitconnect this way and only a couple come to mind:

1) you're a total idiot and you don't now it was a scam;
2) or you're running a scam yourself and you feel a special kind of kinship with other scammers.

[FruitsBasket]

One image is worth a 1000 words!