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Yes he is indeed a monster, after Casimero there's no more worthy opposition on his current weight category he should move up again he is currently a three-weight champion great achievement for a young boxer, there's a possibility that he can challenge Pacquiao's record he was 8 division world champion, he can do it because he started in the lightest category like Manny Pacquiao, Inoue's career has a lot of possibilities.
If Naoya Inoue will win against Casimero there's still a business that needed to be finished on their division, not because of career but as a form of respect. He needs to make a rematch with Donaire because of the struggle he experienced defeating the veteran boxer. But honestly, either Inoue or Casimero will lose here, a rematch is expected to happen unless one of them got overpowered different from the case of Donaire vs Inoue where the fight is close that's why a rematch is somehow necessary. Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight. Donaire would only fight Inoue, and he is waiting for him, he will not anymore go up as he is not getting any younger, and just like Inoue, that's his purpose too to avenge his loses and take the belt of Inoue, so give him another chance in this rematch, besides, this will be another big fight that both will benefit in terms of revenue they'll make.
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Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.
The scenario after Casimero vs Inoue will be: If Inoue wins, Casimero will ask for a rematch. If Casimero wins, Inoue will ask for a rematch. Then regardless of the result: Donaire will challenge Casimero and Inoue. In the end, if Naoya finished the 2 PH boxers successfully without losing, he will now climb up the ladder and the belt will be left to top contenders at that division.
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September 13, 2021, 09:25:41 AM |
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Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.
I don't see it's a weakness as even Inoue admitted himself that if he fought Rigo that time and Rigo will just run, that would probably be the same result of the fight. Casimero loves to fight a higher that is willing to beat him, not a fighter that would fight him and just survive to make easy money. Rigo did that and the judges were convince that the more aggressive should win although Casimero did not hit Rigo with some clean shots.
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September 13, 2021, 02:07:48 PM |
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Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.
The scenario after Casimero vs Inoue will be: If Inoue wins, Casimero will ask for a rematch. If Casimero wins, Inoue will ask for a rematch. Then regardless of the result: Donaire will challenge Casimero and Inoue. In the end, if Naoya finished the 2 PH boxers successfully without losing, he will now climb up the ladder and the belt will be left to top contenders at that division. If Inoue wins, I doubt he will give a rematch to Casimero. His next fight will be against Donaire, and if he again wins the 2nd time around, I guess he would just move to a new division so he can continue his journey in chasing the pound for found king. Inoue is currently rank at the number 2, https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/Canelo is sitting at the number 1, well deserved for him but Inoue could go up in weight and hopefully he would be able to bring the speed and power.
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September 13, 2021, 04:58:25 PM |
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Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.
I don't see it's a weakness as even Inoue admitted himself that if he fought Rigo that time and Rigo will just run, that would probably be the same result of the fight. Casimero loves to fight a higher that is willing to beat him, not a fighter that would fight him and just survive to make easy money. Rigo did that and the judges were convince that the more aggressive should win although Casimero did not hit Rigo with some clean shots. Same with my observation, even Inoue was the one who fought Rigo with that same strategy from Rigo. For sure, it will have the same outcome. Between Inoue and Casimero, fans are expecting more actions a toe to toe exchanging of heavy punches, where both this two gentlemen are being known, it's good to see a KO if possible it's more convincing fight, I remember the Pacman vs Márquez blow by blow that kind of fight fans will really enjoy.
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September 13, 2021, 08:29:41 PM |
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Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.
I don't see it's a weakness as even Inoue admitted himself that if he fought Rigo that time and Rigo will just run, that would probably be the same result of the fight. Casimero loves to fight a higher that is willing to beat him, not a fighter that would fight him and just survive to make easy money. Rigo did that and the judges were convince that the more aggressive should win although Casimero did not hit Rigo with some clean shots. Same with my observation, even Inoue was the one who fought Rigo with that same strategy from Rigo. For sure, it will have the same outcome. Between Inoue and Casimero, fans are expecting more actions a toe to toe exchanging of heavy punches, where both this two gentlemen are being known, it's good to see a KO if possible it's more convincing fight, I remember the Pacman vs Márquez blow by blow that kind of fight fans will really enjoy. That's a good observation, this could be like a Marquez vs Pacquiao fight, where Inoue is the Pacquiao. Hopefully, if there's a contract that will be signed soon, they will put a rematch clause so we will not only see a fight once but on the 2nd time or even the 3rd time if there's a trilogy.
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September 13, 2021, 08:37:13 PM |
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Casimero's weaknesses are exposed in his previous losses while Inoue's weakness is not yet established because he is still undefeated.
I don't see it's a weakness as even Inoue admitted himself that if he fought Rigo that time and Rigo will just run, that would probably be the same result of the fight. Casimero loves to fight a higher that is willing to beat him, not a fighter that would fight him and just survive to make easy money. Rigo did that and the judges were convince that the more aggressive should win although Casimero did not hit Rigo with some clean shots. Same with my observation, even Inoue was the one who fought Rigo with that same strategy from Rigo. For sure, it will have the same outcome. Between Inoue and Casimero, fans are expecting more actions a toe to toe exchanging of heavy punches, where both this two gentlemen are being known, it's good to see a KO if possible it's more convincing fight, I remember the Pacman vs Márquez blow by blow that kind of fight fans will really enjoy. That's a good observation, this could be like a Marquez vs Pacquiao fight, where Inoue is the Pacquiao. Hopefully, if there's a contract that will be signed soon, they will put a rematch clause so we will not only see a fight once but on the 2nd time or even the 3rd time if there's a trilogy. We do all much prefer on seeing up an entertainment rather than on a boring match and this is where and what we do seek off and i agree that some of fights in the past is really just good for how or something that fans wasnt expecting for them to see. Boxing is a sport that is interesting but some are just way too obvious on making out money rather than on giving entertainment. Trilogy of Inoue vs Casimero is highly plausible for it to happen but lets not conclude out because it would be still basing off between boxers and promoters decisions.
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September 14, 2021, 06:00:18 AM |
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Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.
The scenario after Casimero vs Inoue will be: If Inoue wins, Casimero will ask for a rematch. If Casimero wins, Inoue will ask for a rematch. Then regardless of the result: Donaire will challenge Casimero and Inoue. In the end, if Naoya finished the 2 PH boxers successfully without losing, he will now climb up the ladder and the belt will be left to top contenders at that division. If Inoue wins, I doubt he will give a rematch to Casimero. His next fight will be against Donaire, and if he again wins the 2nd time around, I guess he would just move to a new division so he can continue his journey in chasing the pound for found king. Inoue is currently rank at the number 2, https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/Canelo is sitting at the number 1, well deserved for him but Inoue could go up in weight and hopefully he would be able to bring the speed and power. Let's not get ahead of our selves and talk about rematches, we have to see how the fight goes, it might be one lopsided for Casimero or Inoue, or it could be close that the decision can go either way. Donaire here has taken the back seat, he doesn't want to give Casimero a fight, and then Casimero steal the rug from under him and get to Inoue first before him.
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September 14, 2021, 12:02:32 PM |
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Inoue will not be concerned about Donaire so he will give him a rematch, he beat him once, and now that he has a belt, maybe they could unify that belt and Inoue will be the undisputed champion. The good thing here is Inoue and Casimero are willing to fight Inoue, this is easy for Inoue to prove that he is the best, but of course, right after the Casimero fight.
The scenario after Casimero vs Inoue will be: If Inoue wins, Casimero will ask for a rematch. If Casimero wins, Inoue will ask for a rematch. Then regardless of the result: Donaire will challenge Casimero and Inoue. In the end, if Naoya finished the 2 PH boxers successfully without losing, he will now climb up the ladder and the belt will be left to top contenders at that division. If Inoue wins, I doubt he will give a rematch to Casimero. His next fight will be against Donaire, and if he again wins the 2nd time around, I guess he would just move to a new division so he can continue his journey in chasing the pound for found king. Inoue is currently rank at the number 2, https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/Canelo is sitting at the number 1, well deserved for him but Inoue could go up in weight and hopefully he would be able to bring the speed and power. Let's not get ahead of our selves and talk about rematches, we have to see how the fight goes, it might be one lopsided for Casimero or Inoue, or it could be close that the decision can go either way. Donaire here has taken the back seat, he doesn't want to give Casimero a fight, and then Casimero steal the rug from under him and get to Inoue first before him. If Casimero wins, Donaire has no choice but to fight him like no other champion in the division where he could unify. Not good for Donaire because he once cancelled a fight, they were supposed to meet Casimero this year but it did not happen because Donaire was soft, trash talk made him cancel the fight, that's hilarious.
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If Casimero wins, Donaire has no choice but to fight him like no other champion in the division where he could unify. Not good for Donaire because he once cancelled a fight, they were supposed to meet Casimero this year but it did not happen because Donaire was soft, trash talk made him cancel the fight, that's hilarious.
The thing is the more you got trash talk, the more you'll be motivated to beat him. IMO, their fight got cancelled is just a trick to give more chance of both Filipino boxer to beat Inoue. If Casimero and Donaire fight didn't get cancelled, Inoue only need to fight one of them to be a champions of his division. In boxing trash talk is allowed, if Donaire can't accept his opponent trash talking to him... he shouldn't become a boxer.
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September 14, 2021, 12:42:56 PM |
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If Casimero wins, Donaire has no choice but to fight him like no other champion in the division where he could unify. Not good for Donaire because he once cancelled a fight, they were supposed to meet Casimero this year but it did not happen because Donaire was soft, trash talk made him cancel the fight, that's hilarious.
The thing is the more you got trash talk, the more you'll be motivated to beat him. IMO, their fight got cancelled is just a trick to give more chance of both Filipino boxer to beat Inoue. If Casimero and Donaire fight didn't get cancelled, Inoue only need to fight one of them to be a champions of his division. Good theory, they are both Filipino so they will bring pride to the country if they will win against Inoue the best fighter in the bantamweight division. I like to see the outcome of Inoue vs Casimero soon, but honestly, if Casimero loses, I don't expect that Donarie will beat Inoue in their rematch. In boxing trash talk is allowed, if Donaire can't accept his opponent trash talking to him... he shouldn't become a boxer. Way too much according to him, he was disrespected, his wife and his family, that's enough to cool off the fight.
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September 14, 2021, 12:45:46 PM |
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If Casimero wins, Donaire has no choice but to fight him like no other champion in the division where he could unify. Not good for Donaire because he once cancelled a fight, they were supposed to meet Casimero this year but it did not happen because Donaire was soft, trash talk made him cancel the fight, that's hilarious.
The thing is the more you got trash talk, the more you'll be motivated to beat him. IMO, their fight got cancelled is just a trick to give more chance of both Filipino boxer to beat Inoue. If Casimero and Donaire fight didn't get cancelled, Inoue only need to fight one of them to be a champions of his division. In boxing trash talk is allowed, if Donaire can't accept his opponent trash talking to him... he shouldn't become a boxer. I agree to that. I'm also thinking the Donaire vs Casimero fight was just a set up. Either both of them could get to fight Inoue. Casimero was very eager to fight Inoue and so they might've set up the Donaire and Casimero fight that is going to be cancelled deliberately to give chance for Casimero to fight Inoue first before the Donaire vs Inoue part 2. I could be wrong here anyway. But who knows lol.
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I agree to that. I'm also thinking the Donaire vs Casimero fight was just a set up. Either both of them could get to fight Inoue. Casimero was very eager to fight Inoue and so they might've set up the Donaire and Casimero fight that is going to be cancelled deliberately to give chance for Casimero to fight Inoue first before the Donaire vs Inoue part 2.
I could be wrong here anyway. But who knows lol.
If they do that, which really possible i guess ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) They did it well since the call for Casimiro against Inoue was really getting the attention, the way Casimero made his statement from those trash talks, give him the chance to fight Inoue. It's the final signatory to see this fight to happen that we are all waiting. Inoue, if he wants to take all the belts from this division, needs to fight both Pinoy champs, very interesting, since boxing is a business and from my own view, they really did it well to attract more interest, bringing Inoue's a hot sensation fighter.
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Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.
It's a way to market their match and he sold it first to Inoue since there's another potential opponent that he's about to box after his most recent fight. And as he talks like that, that's normal and strategy to get every fan on hype and will definitely watch the match for satisfaction whether he wins or lose. We just want to see the result of it not because of how he fights but how he talked and that's making everyone interested in it. I think we have to somehow settle his shit talking and credit these both fighters for how they really fight and what must be credited to them. I have always wondered why fighters feel the necessity to promote their fight in this way, we are talking about the world champion and a very good challenger, they do not need to do anything else to motivate me to watch their fight, I will watch it because I love boxing so all of this trash talking is not really necessary, after all do I really think that people get motivated to see fights depending on how good of a trash talker you really are? And I do not believe this is the case.
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Let's not get ahead of our selves and talk about rematches, we have to see how the fight goes, it might be one lopsided for Casimero or Inoue, or it could be close that the decision can go either way. Donaire here has taken the back seat, he doesn't want to give Casimero a fight, and then Casimero steal the rug from under him and get to Inoue first before him.
He doesn't want to give Casimero the fight because of those trash talks for his manager/wife. Casimero steals the fight from him by doing the same strategy, trash talking Inoue. We can all agree that this kind of strategy really works, especially with the help of social media. The message directly hits the target and from the response of Inoue's camp, they really wanted to call the fight and beat Casimero to shut his mouth. And not to forget, you have a good point not to talk with rematch right away. Donaire may have his chance to fight, whoever win between Inoue and Casimero, there's a belt that he can stake from this division. His promoter can deal him up, though It will depend on the other camps whether to accept the deal or not. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.
It's a way to market their match and he sold it first to Inoue since there's another potential opponent that he's about to box after his most recent fight. And as he talks like that, that's normal and strategy to get every fan on hype and will definitely watch the match for satisfaction whether he wins or lose. We just want to see the result of it not because of how he fights but how he talked and that's making everyone interested in it. I think we have to somehow settle his shit talking and credit these both fighters for how they really fight and what must be credited to them. I have always wondered why fighters feel the necessity to promote their fight in this way, we are talking about the world champion and a very good challenger, they do not need to do anything else to motivate me to watch their fight, I will watch it because I love boxing so all of this trash talking is not really necessary, after all do I really think that people get motivated to see fights depending on how good of a trash talker you really are? And I do not believe this is the case. Its a personal point of view but actually those trashtalks are indeed the way on selling out their fight and yes it isnt really that much necessary because the fight could still sell well depending on the fighters which are about to box on. Cant really be denied that there are athletes or fighters which do really known on being a trashtalker but somewhat really able to achieve those peak rankings like in MMA Conor which that shit is really much more worst when it comes to trashtalks.
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September 14, 2021, 08:57:36 PM |
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Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.
It's a way to market their match and he sold it first to Inoue since there's another potential opponent that he's about to box after his most recent fight. And as he talks like that, that's normal and strategy to get every fan on hype and will definitely watch the match for satisfaction whether he wins or lose. We just want to see the result of it not because of how he fights but how he talked and that's making everyone interested in it. I think we have to somehow settle his shit talking and credit these both fighters for how they really fight and what must be credited to them. I have always wondered why fighters feel the necessity to promote their fight in this way, we are talking about the world champion and a very good challenger, they do not need to do anything else to motivate me to watch their fight, I will watch it because I love boxing so all of this trash talking is not really necessary, after all do I really think that people get motivated to see fights depending on how good of a trash talker you really are? And I do not believe this is the case. Its a personal point of view but actually those trashtalks are indeed the way on selling out their fight and yes it isnt really that much necessary because the fight could still sell well depending on the fighters which are about to box on. Cant really be denied that there are athletes or fighters which do really known on being a trashtalker but somewhat really able to achieve those peak rankings like in MMA Conor which that shit is really much more worst when it comes to trashtalks. Casimero is just surprised as he is quite different from Filipino fighters, he is the only fighter I know that loves to trash talk his opponents, other fighters are so humble, they don't talk much as they respect their opponent. While Casimero though some hates him, but I understand he is just doing his job, this guy talks inside and outside the ring, if you know what I'm saying and that's good.
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Lanatsa
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September 14, 2021, 09:56:46 PM |
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Well, here Casimero has nothing to lose right. But Inoue has his belt at stake. So Casimero can do all the shit-talking he wants just to provoke Inoue. Also as Inoue is the champion, the pressure is more on him than on Casimero. I hope the pressure does not get the better of him because Casimero will play kind of tension-free and with him playing like there is nothing to lose, he will have the upper hand in the fight.
It's a way to market their match and he sold it first to Inoue since there's another potential opponent that he's about to box after his most recent fight. And as he talks like that, that's normal and strategy to get every fan on hype and will definitely watch the match for satisfaction whether he wins or lose. We just want to see the result of it not because of how he fights but how he talked and that's making everyone interested in it. I think we have to somehow settle his shit talking and credit these both fighters for how they really fight and what must be credited to them. I have always wondered why fighters feel the necessity to promote their fight in this way, we are talking about the world champion and a very good challenger, they do not need to do anything else to motivate me to watch their fight, I will watch it because I love boxing so all of this trash talking is not really necessary, after all do I really think that people get motivated to see fights depending on how good of a trash talker you really are? And I do not believe this is the case. Its a personal point of view but actually those trashtalks are indeed the way on selling out their fight and yes it isnt really that much necessary because the fight could still sell well depending on the fighters which are about to box on. Cant really be denied that there are athletes or fighters which do really known on being a trashtalker but somewhat really able to achieve those peak rankings like in MMA Conor which that shit is really much more worst when it comes to trashtalks. Casimero is just surprised as he is quite different from Filipino fighters, he is the only fighter I know that loves to trash talk his opponents, other fighters are so humble, they don't talk much as they respect their opponent. While Casimero though some hates him, but I understand he is just doing his job, this guy talks inside and outside the ring, if you know what I'm saying and that's good. Impression are different on each other this is why some doesn't really care for being a trashtalker but some are really that hateful on what they've been seeing and hearing about Casimero. What matter most here is on how he would handle out Inoue and justify those kind of conclusions that he had said in the past on beating him up but I don't see that it would be that simple on where beating off a beast which is still undefeated nowadays.
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September 17, 2021, 12:33:03 PM |
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Impression are different on each other this is why some doesn't really care for being a trashtalker but some are really that hateful on what they've been seeing and hearing about Casimero.
What matter most here is on how he would handle out Inoue and justify those kind of conclusions that he had said in the past on beating him up but I don't see that it would be that simple
on where beating off a beast which is still undefeated nowadays.
Trash talking is just a spice in the fight, the majority of the fans love to see how the favorite fighter will beat the trash talker. In this fight, we know that Inoue is the favorite to win, while Casimero is the trashtalker, so even though Filipinos support Casimero, still the majority of the fans all over the world are supporting Inoue to win. So for Casimero, beating Inoue is a big success that is going to be his ticket to get bigger fights and that means bigger money.
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September 17, 2021, 12:52:34 PM |
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Impression are different on each other this is why some doesn't really care for being a trashtalker but some are really that hateful on what they've been seeing and hearing about Casimero.
What matter most here is on how he would handle out Inoue and justify those kind of conclusions that he had said in the past on beating him up but I don't see that it would be that simple
on where beating off a beast which is still undefeated nowadays.
Trash talking is just a spice in the fight, the majority of the fans love to see how the favorite fighter will beat the trash talker. In this fight, we know that Inoue is the favorite to win, while Casimero is the trashtalker, so even though Filipinos support Casimero, still the majority of the fans all over the world are supporting Inoue to win. So for Casimero, beating Inoue is a big success that is going to be his ticket to get bigger fights and that means bigger money. He badly needs to fight Inoue so he can make his dream into reality, this is the biggest fight of his career (probably), so win or lose, I would still support Casimero because even if he doesn't respect his opponent, he still bring honor to our country, and I'm matured enough to understand how marketing in boxing works.
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