🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[Hueristic]

OK guys, I've edited the voting post as the Hybrid option is no longer valid so if you need to adjust your vote go ahead and do that.
I'll tally up votes tomorrow and post an update.

OK, I think we are going to have to put a timeframe on setting our draft time.

I'm sure most of us need to know at least a few days ahead of time when the draft will be so as to set our schedules not to conflict with other drafts and RL shit.

So I think I will have to give a cutoff time for discussion of Wed and have a last and FINAL vote on thurs if we don't have a consensus before then.

We are currently waiting on nutildah and Hhampuz to figure a out a timeframe they can both make and give that to us to verify we can all make that range.

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RULES CHANGES:
OK, I went back and reread all the posts and started applying peoples votes but found it became unwieldy as some of the discussions changed the questions and I didn't feel the people that voted should be locked in to their votes and rather than make a whole discussion over each change here are the current questions and everyone can vote again.

* denotes last years setting

1) South Park: Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on

the most important part of the season?

Playoff spots:

a)4 *

b)6

c)8


2)DireWolfM14:What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

Payout places
a)1*

b)2*

c)3

d)MORE

*note 1st place was split last year as the death on the field cancelled a game with league players original was winner take all



3)morvillz7z: replace kicker with a flex spot  

a) yes

b) no*

C) don't care/abstain





4) OK now on the waiver method, due to the choices being multifaceted it can become complicated to vote for one.

So I think what we can do is break it down and vote multiple times on the method to choose.

OK if that was not clear this is an example of what I am saying.

We will vote on whether to use reverse order or continuous rolling or a mix of the two (hybrid). If we choose reverse order then there are 2 different choices of that (I will explain that if that is our choice before the next vote) and if we do hybrid then obviously those 2 choices also come into play. So we will not need a second vote only if continuous rolling is chosen.

Now correct me if i'm wrong but I think 2 years ago we used reverse order and last year we used continuous rolling.

NOW a Hybrid just means that we can use both.

I will change the method depending on what we decide.

For instance my choice would be to use Reverse for the beginning of the league (like first 5 weeks) and then change to continuous rolling for the remainder of the league.

My argument for this is that if you draft horrible then the first 5 weeks you can get good waiver picks and make a decent team BUT after 5 weeks it will not hurt good teams that get injured players by pushing them down to the bottom of the waiver list every week which I believe is unfair.

So the current voting options are.

a)reverse order

b)continuous rolling

c)Hybrid *Yahoo removed this option by making waiver settings changeable only pre draft now

d) don't care/abstain


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My votes:
1)a

I feel more than 4 teams in the playoffs will add to the luck factor as 6 would add 2 buys and 8 is just far to many.

2)c

I think 3 payouts would be decent  as I used to run pool tourneys for years and 3 is a good number when you have over 10 participants and a split of 70%, 20%, 10% is a fair distribution.

3)b

I really don't care to much on kickers but would like to point out that with 12 teams if we add another flex spot then the waiver wire will be brutal. Hmm, now that I think of it I think removing kickers all together would be a better choice then making it a flex spot. So I just changed my vote from abstain to no.

4) not sure atm will have to think on it.

I want to see this league stay fun so I will vote in any way that I think will go to that end therefore I will vote for the hybrid which should help poorly drafted teams in the beginning but keep the league competitive for the rest of the season.



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ALSO a reminder dues must be paid.


And if I made any errors in this let me know guys, i'm getting dumber every year.

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[DireWolfM14]

Dude, WTF?  That's sacrilegious!

Its a straight up quote, you didn't know that?

No, I didn't, lol.  I had to go look it up, but yeah in that context I can definitely see him saying that, and I don't disagree.

[Hueristic]

Dude, WTF?  That's sacrilegious!

Its a straight up quote, you didn't know that?

No, I didn't, lol.  I had to go look it up, but yeah in that context I can definitely see him saying that, and I don't disagree.

I'm taking SM's comment as a joke if not then we have a problem.

I've never cheated on anything in my life and am pretty protective of my word being my bond.

[ChiBitCTy]

Number one pick, I will sure as heck happily accept that.  Bit embarrassing being a long time fantasy football player and coming in last place so I'm back to regain some self dignity (what little I have left) this year  

Just so ya'll know, I'll be taking Justin Jefferson with my first pick...so now you can plan accordingly 

ONE WEEK UNTIL KICKOFF!!!

[DireWolfM14]

Just so ya'll know, I'll be taking Justin Jefferson with my first pick...so now you can plan accordingly 

Lol, I assume your just joking or just trying to throw us off, but he's likely to be one of the better receivers in the league this year.

[bbc.reporter]

Just so ya'll know, I'll be taking Justin Jefferson with my first pick...so now you can plan accordingly  

Lol, I assume your just joking or just trying to throw us off, but he's likely to be one of the better receivers in the league this year.

Justin Jefferson is the no.1 overall pick in my cheatsheet then Christian McCaffrey in no.2 and Jmarr Chase in no.3. However, if I had a chance to draft first I would pick Christian McCaffrey. He can do much more on the field and create more fantasy points. Did he not score a passing touchdown last year ehehe.

In any case, what is the final schedule of our draft? Everyone can make it?

Agreed! hehehehehe.

However, there should be a type of strategy that can be used to gain back some advantage if drafting near the last slots. I was thinking of having a team heavy with good wide receivers this year if I had a good slot. But it appears if near the last places, is it good to do Kelce and Mahomes in 1st and 2nd rounds?

There must be a way to gain an edge, however there is little doubt to me that drafting at the extremes of the draft, whether it is too high or too low, is more difficult than to draft from the middle positions, as in my mock drafts I always do worse when drafting at the extremes than when drafting on the middle, personally I would have been fine with anything between the 4th and the 9th picks so I am very happy with my draft position, and while drafting Kelce and Mahomes would be a good combo, I doubt Kelce will drop to the point you could draft him.

@suchmoon has said already that he will draft Kelce, he is 7th pick. I assume Kupp, Jmarr Chase, Tyreek Hill and Ekeler will have owners before my turn hehehe. I should not expect anything this year and depend on luck on the waiver wire.

[ChiBitCTy]

Just so ya'll know, I'll be taking Justin Jefferson with my first pick...so now you can plan accordingly  

Lol, I assume your just joking or just trying to throw us off, but he's likely to be one of the better receivers in the league this year.

Justin Jefferson seems to be the consensus #1 pick in fantasy this year, however I forgot that this league is non-PPR, so I may change my decision..but I got a few days to think it over  JJ was the #1 WR last year too. Guy is a beast.

Just so ya'll know, I'll be taking Justin Jefferson with my first pick...so now you can plan accordingly  

Lol, I assume your just joking or just trying to throw us off, but he's likely to be one of the better receivers in the league this year.

Justin Jefferson is the no.1 overall pick in my cheatsheet then Christian McCaffrey in no.2 and Jmarr Chase in no.3. However, if I had a chance to draft first I would pick Christian McCaffrey. He can do much more on the field and create more fantasy points. Did he not score a passing touchdown last year ehehe.

In any case, what is the final schedule of our draft? Everyone can make it?

Agreed! hehehehehe.

However, there should be a type of strategy that can be used to gain back some advantage if drafting near the last slots. I was thinking of having a team heavy with good wide receivers this year if I had a good slot. But it appears if near the last places, is it good to do Kelce and Mahomes in 1st and 2nd rounds?

There must be a way to gain an edge, however there is little doubt to me that drafting at the extremes of the draft, whether it is too high or too low, is more difficult than to draft from the middle positions, as in my mock drafts I always do worse when drafting at the extremes than when drafting on the middle, personally I would have been fine with anything between the 4th and the 9th picks so I am very happy with my draft position, and while drafting Kelce and Mahomes would be a good combo, I doubt Kelce will drop to the point you could draft him.

@suchmoon has said already that he will draft Kelce, he is 7th pick. I assume Kupp, Jmarr Chase, Tyreek Hill and Ekeler will have owners before my turn hehehe. I should not expect anything this year and depend on luck on the waiver wire.

Yeah Justin Jefferson is the consensus #1 on most outlets. I hear you about CMC, but the problem is Deboo Samuel healthy will take away from his carries and pass catches in the backfield and short yardage A BIT, as well as Aiyuk is a solid player, not to mention they’ve got Kittle to feed as well. Just a lot of mouths to feed. Love CMC, but he’s not my #1 RB, personally (Chubb is my favorite back for the record. Gunna be real hard to pass on him).

[Hueristic]

Draft order and Date/Time is all set everyone is joined.


Monday Sep,4 @ 7:00 PM EDT
https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/373233
countdown is displayed on league page.


https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/373233/draftresults

[bbc.reporter]

@ChiBitCTy. However, in many of the games Christian McCaffrey will be given most of the carries going to the endzone for the touchdown. We cannot be 100% certain of this but I will be very happy to draft him as the 12th pick on the 1st round hehehehe.

In any case, in the mock drafts it appears that everyone is improving their cheatsheets. I can be 2nd or 3rd in the standings drafting from 11th and 12th last week but presently I can only be 7th and lower.

[Hueristic]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?
also IIRC I had Nutildah from earlier stating that he wanted no changes from last year but didnt find that post so there is no link from that but i had already added his votes.




ANYTHING WRONG here just let me know and I'll update.



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* denotes last years setting

1) South Park: Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?

Playoff spots:

a)4 *
nutildah, hueristic, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter, ChiBitCTy, yahoo62278

b)6
suchmoon, South Park, morvillz7z, wheelz1200

c)8

d)abstain
seek3r, Hhampuz

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2)DireWolfM14:What do you guys think of having two payouts?  
I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

Payout places
a)1*
morvillz7z, bbc.reporter

b)2*
suchmoon, South Park, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter, nutildah, Hueristic, ChiBitCTy, yahoo62278

c)3


d)MORE

e) abstain
seek3r, wheelz1200, Hhampuz

*note 1st place was split last year as the death on the field cancelled a game with league players, because of this I am not apllying suchmoon, nutildah's "no change" to this until they confirm.


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3)morvillz7z: replace kicker with a flex spot  

a) yes
morvillz7z

b) no*
suchmoon, nutildah, South Park, DireWolfM14, bbc.reporter, , ChiBitCTy, wheelz1200, yahoo62278

C) don't care/abstain
Hueristic, seek3r, Hhampuz

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4) OK now on the waiver method, due to the choices being multifaceted it can become complicated to vote for one.

So the current voting options are.

a)reverse order
suchmoon, South Park, morvillz7z, DireWolfM14, nutildah, Hueristic, yahoo62278

b)continuous rolling*


c) don't care/abstain
bbc.reporter, seek3r, Hhampuz


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Link to votes:
1.  ChiBitCTy       https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62794659#msg62794659
2.  Hhampuz       abstain as per discord
3.  morvillz7z      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767298#msg62767298
4.  seek3r           https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62768039#msg62768039
5.  South Park     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767253#msg62767253
6.  yahoo62278   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62782636#msg62782636
7.  suchmoon      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62766929#msg62766929
8.  nutildah         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62785600#msg62785600
9.  DireWolfM14  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767367#msg62767367
10.  Hueristic      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62766844#msg62766844
11.  wheelz1200  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62794743#msg62794743
12.  bbc.reporter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62767788#msg62767788

[yahoo62278]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

Just put me down for whatever the majority is up for, long as everything is fair. I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

[Hueristic]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

Just put me down for whatever the majority is up for, long as everything is fair. I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

The majority at the end of voting or the majority right now?

[yahoo62278]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

Just put me down for whatever the majority is up for, long as everything is fair. I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

The majority at the end of voting or the majority right now?

lol if I'm needed for a tie breaker(which obviously shouldn't happen) then i'll make some votes. I think everyone pretty much going to agree with whatever you guys did last year, so there shouldn't be much of an issue.

[bbc.reporter]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

Just put me down for whatever the majority is up for, long as everything is fair. I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

This person does not have a health problem!!!!!

[yahoo62278]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

This person does not have a health problem!!!!!

I'm lost?

[Hueristic]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

Just put me down for whatever the majority is up for, long as everything is fair. I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

This person does not have a health problem!!!!!

If he doesn't now he will by week 5 just like the rest of us !!!!

[bbc.reporter]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

This person does not have a health problem!!!!!

I'm lost?

I am only joking and admiring the attitude hehehe.

@Hueristic. I am afraid it will my team who will be having much problems by week 5 hehe. I have been doing more than 50 mock drafts from the 12th position and I cannot find a good strategy to get much of the players I need that will give a good win-loss record to enter the playoffs. My gameboys are overheating.

[Hueristic]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?

I'm just ready for the season to start so i can whoop all your asses with backups lol.

This person does not have a health problem!!!!!

I'm lost?

I am only joking and admiring the attitude hehehe.

@Hueristic. I am afraid it will my team who will be having much problems by week 5 hehe. I have been doing more than 50 mock drafts from the 12th position and I cannot find a good strategy to get much of the players I need that will give a good win-loss record to enter the playoffs. My gameboys are overheating.

LOL, don't forget with 12 teams all of them will be far weaker than last years was so no matter how many times you draft they will look bad out of the gate.

Your advantage right now is you will get to choose 2 in a row so you can set the pace for round 2 so think on that.  And don't forget you picked first last year and actually picked the best possible pick and still didn't win so picking first is not all its cut out to be. Personally I'd rather pick 12th than first.

[Hueristic]

OK guys gonna have to make a deadline for voting on the waiver wire type because if reverse order wins as it looks like it will we still have to vote on which type of which there are 2 options.

MAKE SURE to check that I have tallied your votes correctly!

So I think getting your votes in by 7pm EST today will give us enough time to get the last vote in before draft time.





Link to vote post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62782628#msg62782628

Posted here, on discord, Emailed and PM'd to:


ChiBitCTy
Hhampuz
morvillz7z  
seek3r      
South Park  
yahoo62278
suchmoon    
nutildah
DireWolfM14  
Hueristic  
wheelz1200
bbc.reporter

[nutildah]

OK guys I've tallied up the votes so far but cannot find Yahoos post where IIRC he said he was abstaining?
also IIRC I had Nutildah from earlier stating that he wanted no changes from last year but didnt find that post so there is no link from that but i had already added his votes.

2 - please change to b (2 payout spots)
4 - please change to a (reverse order)

other two are good

thanks