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March 23, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
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Honestly the same crap all over again. The dev is putting a lot of effort in it. Furthermore he is working with a team and none of us knows how big and organized that team/group is, so you can't make such arguments.

Though I am pleased to see the announcement on such short notice, meaning that I don't believe it will be a scam. There's no way that EFL is able to grow that insanely fast within a week

It doesn't matter how big the team is, it will take them 4375 business days to send the pre-mine to the 420,000 families.
And if you believe he can find 12 idiots who work for free for a whole year (!) to do that (even in the weekends), I don't think you did the reality check for this coin.

I think is not neccesary 5 minutes to check each request, 1 minutes is ok. So 900 business days, between 10 people = 3 months. And you can contract a team from the India for example working for that at 3$ / hour, I have people working for me at this price.

Lol, you think they can verify and send in one minute? Lol... That's a thorough verification process Shocked

Team from India? You think they speak Dutch in India? How would a team from India verify the information, in Dutch... Really... I could just scan a fake letter with some crap and it's verified? Roll Eyes

You just don't want to see the fact that the "airdrop" won't happen, ever.

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March 23, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
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I guess its just that some people are lazy as hell so they can't comprehend someone else doing something productive. They have to come up with excuses and try to push others down to feel productive themselves. I bet you'll look pretty stupid with all the scam posts when they start giving out the coins? But that does not probably matter, I guess you will come up with an stupid excuse how this is a scam coin.

Lazy? Lol... I spend half an hour on typing yesterday, underpinning why I think the airdrop will never happen.
I think you are too lazy to even read and understand it.

There will be no airdrop, even if there was: only a small percentage of the pre-mine will be claimed anyway. Nobody in Holland gives a f*ck about this coin, nobody knows about this coin and even if 420,000 households would claim, the dev would never be able to send all those coins. To make people aware of this coin would cost a fortune.

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March 23, 2014, 12:29:38 PM
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7 minutes 42 seconds for 1 block is very much.
KGW is needed as quickly as possible.
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March 23, 2014, 12:32:00 PM
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7 minutes 42 seconds for 1 block is very much.
KGW is needed as quickly as possible.

The dev could have implemented KGW from the start but he didn't because he wanted to instamine a shitload of these coins at ultra-low diff for 4500 blocks.

Now the coin is dying, and that's a good thing Smiley

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March 23, 2014, 12:37:28 PM
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7 minutes 42 seconds for 1 block is very much.
KGW is needed as quickly as possible.

The dev could have implemented KGW from the start but he didn't because he wanted to instamine a shitload of these coins at ultra-low diff for 4500 blocks.

Now the coin is dying, and that's a good thing Smiley

if you think that KGW at launch will solve the dumping part..that's being naive

KGW give only more coin to the whale farmer, because small farmer can't mine shit, so less distribution = more dumping
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March 23, 2014, 12:49:07 PM
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7 minutes 42 seconds for 1 block is very much.
KGW is needed as quickly as possible.

The dev could have implemented KGW from the start but he didn't because he wanted to instamine a shitload of these coins at ultra-low diff for 4500 blocks.

Now the coin is dying, and that's a good thing Smiley

if you think that KGW at launch will solve the dumping part..that's being naive

KGW give only more coin to the whale farmer, because small farmer can't mine shit, so less distribution = more dumping

I'm not talking about dumping, couldn't care less if this coin got dumped.

I talk about instamining at ultra-low diff for 4500 blocks and "fixing" it with KGW, afterwards.

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March 23, 2014, 01:02:10 PM
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7 minutes 42 seconds for 1 block is very much.
KGW is needed as quickly as possible.

The dev could have implemented KGW from the start but he didn't because he wanted to instamine a shitload of these coins at ultra-low diff for 4500 blocks.

Now the coin is dying, and that's a good thing Smiley

if you think that KGW at launch will solve the dumping part..that's being naive

KGW give only more coin to the whale farmer, because small farmer can't mine shit, so less distribution = more dumping

I'm not talking about dumping, couldn't care less if this coin got dumped.

I talk about instamining at ultra-low diff for 4500 blocks and "fixing" it with KGW, afterwards.

Honestly Magnet, you're talking a lot of crap and you have no idea what's happening behind the scenes. No one does. You are making estimations and conclusion of what? Based on which facts? None, because you have no idea of what they are doing or what's happening.
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Honestly Magnet, you're talking a lot of crap and you have no idea what's happening behind the scenes. No one does. You are making estimations and conclusion of what? Based on which facts? None, because you have no idea of what they are doing or what's happening.

What part is crap?

The part that the dev is 100% unknown and can walk away with the pre-mine at will, by bringing down the block-explorer for a few hours?
The part that the dev launched the coin with a 4500 block diff algo to instamine the crap out of it?
The part that the dev hasn't told us what he will do with the unclaimed pre-mine?
The part that the dev had to hire people to create the wallet but he claimes to have a "Verified Proof of Residence system"?
The part that the dev states in the OP that they "added a 1 minute retarget time" while retarget is 4500 blocks?
The part that verifying and sending out the premine to 420,000 households takes 5 minutes each, or 4375 business days? Crap, even at 1 minute per address it would take 875 business days, working fulltime on sending out the premine.
The part that nobody in Holland knows about this coin, so they will never reach those households in the Netherlands?
The part that nobody will send his proof of residence for a measly 25 EFL, worth less than crap?
The part that the dev doesn't even seem to know nobody receives "utility bills" in the Netherlands?

It won't happen.




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March 23, 2014, 01:26:03 PM
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Interesting coin.

The coin needs a better way to reach the Dutch citizens.

Assuming it costs 1 million euro to distribute paper wallets to each Dutch household, you can set aside some % of the premine for financing the distribution and hire a dutch posting company for the distribution?
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March 23, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
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Interesting coin.

The coin needs a better way to reach the Dutch citizens.

Assuming it costs 1 million euro to distribute paper wallets to each Dutch household, you can set aside some % of the premine for financing the distribution and hire a dutch posting company for the distribution?

Lol, at current price you would need all of the pre-mine to do so and still not have enough.

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March 23, 2014, 01:34:37 PM
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Interesting coin.

The coin needs a better way to reach the Dutch citizens.

Assuming it costs 1 million euro to distribute paper wallets to each Dutch household, you can set aside some % of the premine for financing the distribution and hire a dutch posting company for the distribution?

Lol, at current price you would need all of the pre-mine to do so and still not have enough.

It's only a few days old, lol.

























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March 23, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
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OP needs to demonstrate a proper and scam proof system to distribute the coins. OP, now please will you?
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March 23, 2014, 01:46:28 PM
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Interesting coin.

The coin needs a better way to reach the Dutch citizens.

Assuming it costs 1 million euro to distribute paper wallets to each Dutch household, you can set aside some % of the premine for financing the distribution and hire a dutch posting company for the distribution?

Lol, at current price you would need all of the pre-mine to do so and still not have enough.

It's only a few days old, lol.

Yeah, and the price will drop even further when people start to dump their coins and dev dumps the instamine & premine.

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March 23, 2014, 01:57:14 PM
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I guess its just that some people are lazy as hell so they can't comprehend someone else doing something productive. They have to come up with excuses and try to push others down to feel productive themselves. I bet you'll look pretty stupid with all the scam posts when they start giving out the coins? But that does not probably matter, I guess you will come up with an stupid excuse how this is a scam coin.

Lazy? Lol... I spend half an hour on typing yesterday, underpinning why I think the airdrop will never happen.
I think you are too lazy to even read and understand it.

There will be no airdrop, even if there was: only a small percentage of the pre-mine will be claimed anyway. Nobody in Holland gives a f*ck about this coin, nobody knows about this coin and even if 420,000 households would claim, the dev would never be able to send all those coins. To make people aware of this coin would cost a fortune.

Jesus, you spent half an hour typing yesterday, that has to be some kind of a record in typing  Shocked
The distribution will start 30 March, you would know that if you spent 1 minute reading. You are even wrong about the point that nobody in Holland gives a f*ck or knows about this coin because there are people from Holland reading about the coin. The Dev has also arranged interviews with the local media. I'm sure they agreed to write some articles about this coin because they don't give a f*ck as you say.

Just because your a lazy bastard criticizing does not mean they cant succeed with the distribution. Are you that pathetic you cant even hope they succeed? Please stop with your wet farts  Kiss
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March 23, 2014, 01:59:08 PM
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Interesting coin.

The coin needs a better way to reach the Dutch citizens.

Assuming it costs 1 million euro to distribute paper wallets to each Dutch household, you can set aside some % of the premine for financing the distribution and hire a dutch posting company for the distribution?

Lol, at current price you would need all of the pre-mine to do so and still not have enough.

It's only a few days old, lol.

Yeah, and the price will drop even further when people start to dump their coins and dev dumps the instamine & premine.

Why are you trolling? you obviously have no money invested? so why are you even here?

What makes you think the DEV is gonna do a runner with the premine, your just trying to hurt this coin.

























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March 23, 2014, 02:14:10 PM
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OP please provide more proof that the distribution system is legit and "will actually work". We are waiting.
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I guess its just that some people are lazy as hell so they can't comprehend someone else doing something productive. They have to come up with excuses and try to push others down to feel productive themselves. I bet you'll look pretty stupid with all the scam posts when they start giving out the coins? But that does not probably matter, I guess you will come up with an stupid excuse how this is a scam coin.

Lazy? Lol... I spend half an hour on typing yesterday, underpinning why I think the airdrop will never happen.
I think you are too lazy to even read and understand it.

There will be no airdrop, even if there was: only a small percentage of the pre-mine will be claimed anyway. Nobody in Holland gives a f*ck about this coin, nobody knows about this coin and even if 420,000 households would claim, the dev would never be able to send all those coins. To make people aware of this coin would cost a fortune.

Jesus, you spent half an hour typing yesterday, that has to be some kind of a record in typing  Shocked
The distribution will start 30 March, you would know that if you spent 1 minute reading. You are even wrong about the point that nobody in Holland gives a f*ck or knows about this coin because there are people from Holland reading about the coin. The Dev has also arranged interviews with the local media. I'm sure they agreed to write some articles about this coin because they don't give a f*ck as you say.

Just because your a lazy bastard criticizing does not mean they cant succeed with the distribution. Are you that pathetic you cant even hope they succeed? Please stop with your wet farts  Kiss

Local media? What local media? Lol... I live in the Netherlands and soon it will be clear nothing will show up in the media... Nobody cares...

There is no way for anyone to verify if the dev sends the pre-mine to real households or to his own wallet. It's easy to create new addresses and send 25 EFL to each address using a simple script.

This whole "airdrop" is just a way to justify a 50% pre-mine. A pre-mine that's in the hands of the developer(s).

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March 23, 2014, 02:14:55 PM
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Interesting coin.

The coin needs a better way to reach the Dutch citizens.

Assuming it costs 1 million euro to distribute paper wallets to each Dutch household, you can set aside some % of the premine for financing the distribution and hire a dutch posting company for the distribution?

Lol, at current price you would need all of the pre-mine to do so and still not have enough.

It's only a few days old, lol.

Yeah, and the price will drop even further when people start to dump their coins and dev dumps the instamine & premine.

Why are you trolling? you obviously have no money invested? so why are you even here?

What makes you think the DEV is gonna do a runner with the premine, your just trying to hurt this coin.

I'm protecting people who want to "invest" their money in this scam.

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March 23, 2014, 02:24:07 PM
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1% of the Dutch population holds Bitcoins*, tell my why the dev expects 17,38% of the Dutch population will claim their "Electronic Guldens"?
*source: http://www.multiscope.nl/organisatie/nieuws/berichten/75-nederlanders-kent-bitcoins-1-heeft-bitcoins.html

How exactly is he planning to reach those people?

How exactly will he verify 420,000 claims?

How exactly will he send 10,500,000 coins to 420,000 households?

What will happen with the 99% unclaimed pre-mine?

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March 23, 2014, 02:24:28 PM
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Something we could do as a community is, make sure the trading price and volume stays low at least until the airdrop is in full progress. Don't give devs any opportunity to dump the premine, not even part of it.
Maybe even better would be to get Bittrex to suspend trading completely until we see the airdrop happen. I think this coin shouldn't have been on an exchange so soon, in the first place.

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