Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF

[franky1]

to correct badecker yet again about the death certificate fraud

a death certificate is not classed as a covid death if its listed as
as symtoms of gun shot or cancer

a covid death has to have ARDS, pneumonia. and also how scans and tests that validate it. AND the patient receive treatment for it.

they cant just right covid positive on a corpses toetag
its just not how hospitals work

even if someone is covid positive but dues of non covid symptoms. its not a covid death
badecker/bigtree have no clue and obviously not dont the real research

Wrong! Check the video at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234179.msg54335047#msg54335047 to see that worse than this is happening. Or is that video why you are posting?

This is being reported to be happening all over the place. So, tell us what's to stop doctors from doing this, since even the CDC is instructing them to do this, and offering doctors immunity from prosecution if they do it?

Btw, thanks for the advertising boost. Keep up the good work.

the CDC did not tell them to do this.
you are wrong.
you have still not even read the documents from the CDC
you have just taken bigtree's mis-informed. conspiracy bating narrative

but hey. you will for the next few months refuse to actually read the documents because you feel bigtree has a kissable ass and you prefer his taste on things

idiot

[BADecker]

to correct badecker yet again about the death certificate fraud

a death certificate is not classed as a covid death if its listed as
as symtoms of gun shot or cancer

a covid death has to have ARDS, pneumonia. and also how scans and tests that validate it. AND the patient receive treatment for it.

they cant just right covid positive on a corpses toetag
its just not how hospitals work

even if someone is covid positive but dues of non covid symptoms. its not a covid death
badecker/bigtree have no clue and obviously not dont the real research

Wrong! Check the video at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234179.msg54335047#msg54335047 to see that worse than this is happening. Or is that video why you are posting?

This is being reported to be happening all over the place. So, tell us what's to stop doctors from doing this, since even the CDC is instructing them to do this, and offering doctors immunity from prosecution if they do it?

Btw, thanks for the advertising boost. Keep up the good work.

the CDC did not tell them to do this.
you are wrong.
you have still not even read the documents from the CDC
you have just taken bigtree's mis-informed. conspiracy bating narrative

but hey. you will for the next few months refuse to actually read the documents because you feel bigtree has a kissable ass and you prefer his taste on things

idiot

Lol, franky1.

Things are sweet; wake up and smell the roses; read the news and love it.

How in the world dense are you going to remain?

But thanks for helping me advertise. And, as I have said in the past, I'll appear to fight with you (word battles) just to help you protect what you are really doing from your peers. After all, we need as many people as we can get to let average folks know about the big CV scam government, the medical, and the media are playing on us.

So, thanks, again.

[BluePowder]

franky you shouldn't be correcting anyone. you're a broken fact checker. all states have said they got the directive to assume and presume

look it just gets worse, mutliple funerals home admit on video no checks, no tests..

each time you put your foot in your mouth, a real piece of evidence emerges from top investigative journalists that say opposite.

I dare you to explain this.. its straight up queens NY on the record saying no checks..

BOOM! Funeral Directors EXPOSE Death Certificate Frauds Behind CV Death << -- Next News Networks reporting on a project veritas piece.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/

Notice the title is plural ?  Frauds,Directors meaning this is not a one off piece and its happening everywhere.

to correct badecker yet again about the death certificate fraud

a death certificate is not classed as a covid death if its listed as symptoms of gun shot or cancer or anything thats not known covid symptomology

badecker and bigtree are using old scripts from january when good symptomology was not really known.
(yep badecker cannot grasp the concept that its april not january)

a covid death has to have ARDS, pneumonia. and also how scans and tests that validate it. AND the patient receive treatment for it.

they cant just write covid positive on a corpses toetag
its just not how hospitals work

even if someone is covid positive but dues of non covid symptoms. its not a covid death
badecker/bigtree have no clue and obviously not dont the real research

[Spendulus]

franky you shouldn't be correcting anyone. you're a broken fact checker. all states have said they got the directive to assume and presume

look it just gets worse, mutliple funerals home admit on video no checks, no tests..

each time you put your foot in your mouth, a real piece of evidence emerges from top investigative journalists that say opposite.

I dare you to explain this.. its straight up queens NY on the record saying no checks..

BOOM! Funeral Directors EXPOSE Death Certificate Frauds Behind CV Death << -- Next News Networks reporting on a project veritas piece.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/V-rlEQb2gPc/

Notice the title is plural ?  Frauds,Directors meaning this is not a one off piece and its happening everywhere.

to correct badecker yet again about the death certificate fraud

a death certificate is not classed as a covid death if its listed as symptoms of gun shot or cancer or anything thats not known covid symptomology

badecker and bigtree are using old scripts from january when good symptomology was not really known.
(yep badecker cannot grasp the concept that its april not january)

a covid death has to have ARDS, pneumonia. and also how scans and tests that validate it. AND the patient receive treatment for it.

they cant just write covid positive on a corpses toetag
its just not how hospitals work

even if someone is covid positive but dues of non covid symptoms. its not a covid death
badecker/bigtree have no clue and obviously not dont the real research

I have zero problem with a conclusion that what you say is true in some places and times, and what franky1 is saying is true in other places and times.

[franky1]

and the stupidity of some people is amazing

the 'assumed/presumed' is where a covid test is not performed using the CDC own lab (code u0001) but done by the recently set up regional/local lab(u0002)

At the beginning (you know, a month ago), the patient would get a preliminary test and then it would be repeated for confirmation. A positive test at the local or state level is considered “presumptive,” whereas the CDC public health validation renders it “confirmed.” “Presumptive” is not an uncertain diagnosis qualifier.

usually the CDC wants samples sent to them so that they can personally do tests on them as a double check. ('CDC CONFIRMED')
but due to the extent of the pandemic and the fact that CDC qualify the regional/local machines for meeting standards. they take it as assumed/presumed covid if the test was done by the regional/local labs

presumed/assumed. are tested just not by CDC themselves
suspected/pending is a different category

presumed/assumed/confirmed(tested) gets a u07.1
suspected/pending(not tested) gets a Z code. with the number differing depending if their is either
showing symptoms but not yet tested Z11.59
test was negative but unsure because exposure Z03.818
plus other zcodes

Uncertain diagnoses (e.g., possible, probable, suspected, yet to be ruled out, inconclusive, etc.) of COVID-19 are not coded with U07.1. There is a second code WHO made for ICD-10 (not ICD-10-CM) of U07.2, COVID-19, virus not identified, intended to give the ability to capture these patients. It has not been imported into ICD-10-CM (yet), so the guidance is to code the signs or symptoms and/or Z20.828,

its kinda funny what people can actually find when they research the actual sources and not just faux news media stories

[Spendulus]

and the stupidity of some people is amazing

the 'assumed/presumed' is where a covid test is not performed using the CDC own lab (code u0001) but done by the recently set up regional/local lab(u0002) ....

With many diseases, in the USA the CDC requires evidence to be sent to them and they make the actual diagnosis. In the field, in many cases this has been a problem because it delays the diagnosis, correct treatment, and epidemiology numbers.

[BADecker]

and the stupidity of some people is amazing

...

usually the CDC wants samples sent to them so that they can personally do tests on them as a double check. ('CDC CONFIRMED')
but due to the extent of the pandemic and the fact that CDC qualify the regional/local machines for meeting standards. they take it as assumed/presumed covid if the test was done by the regional/local labs

...

its kinda funny what people can actually find when they research the actual sources and not just faux news media stories

Hey man, thanks for doing the research.

The CDC didn't want the actual samples because there weren't any that showed Covid-19 positive, and they knew it. The extent of this non-pandemic is doing something that they couldn't do... producing a worldwide pandemic panic. So, why try to take some samples and scheme around the data? It was already being done for them by the lying Chinese labs.

The CDC is simply a covert arm of the vaccine producing companies. They are the ones who are setting the show for the coming vaccines for a non-existent virus. Why would they want to mess with some samples and upset their own apple cart?

[franky1]

oh badecker.

we know you watch superman and think its a documentary .
we know you watch many faux news and think its source info

but one day you will look back on your life and realise how much time you wasted in fantasy land

[BluePowder]

Lol Franky wins again with irrelevant distracting gibberish.. thank you franky1 for being the voice of reason in the forum. you're so deep in lies and fear I don't think anything can get past your skills and knowledge.. Franky1 = Forum God

the news shows people in a hospital suffering from CV-19 -- upon zooming in the people are manequins used for medical demonstrations

the news shows bodies piling up in mass graves -- the news forgets to tell you its a 100 year old practice because there is no space in NY, why run this non-story exactly at this time.

the news shows panic in US emergency rooms as CV19 patients pour in -- the news doesn't tell you the footage is from a small 10 person hospital in Italy.

the news shows slaughter and gunfire in Syria --  Upon zooming in , the slaughter is actually a gun show in Kentucky.

the news shows young children dying from poor gun control laws -- The news doesn't mention they died 3 times in other countries running the same gun control show.

And when a citizen records his local hospital to show its empty and employees have been sent home, its time to call security and enforce laws against citizen journalism. Can't have people telling the truth on the internet.

[BluePowder]

A lie is a lie, you can only keep it going for so long and when you to go to court to try stop a family from knowing cause of death then its fair to say the people in charge are corrupt and lying and are trying to achieve something else. In this case its panic amongst the sheep which rolls out new laws, less rights and more money for the central bank and crippling debt for you.

What we are trying to alert you to is that this may have been last years reporting rules but since then every DOC,NURSE, FUNERAL HOME is screaming out loud that there was a directive to do things different this year..

Not sure how to get through to you guys, its the source saying it not us. We are just a bit smarter then you guys and know how to tune out the fake news and go to the source. In this case, its the actual medical pro's.

Do you guys follow court dockets at all ?  Someone had to go to the supreme court to hold the scammers to account. And they won easily, the scammers tried everything to block them but the court ruled the next of kin had ultimate right over the body, not the freaky corrupt government and their arms length agencies. So the judge orders and independent outside lab to test for CV-19.. guess what no CV19 .. why is the government and CDC and WHO fighting average citizens on how and why their loves ones died ?  answer me that

When you put it all together -- you get a death cert fraud, a non existant or drastically flawed test, and the media acting extremely suspicious and one sided.

Why ? 
Why ?
Why ? 

and the stupidity of some people is amazing

the 'assumed/presumed' is where a covid test is not performed using the CDC own lab (code u0001) but done by the recently set up regional/local lab(u0002) ....

With many diseases, in the USA the CDC requires evidence to be sent to them and they make the actual diagnosis. In the field, in many cases this has been a problem because it delays the diagnosis, correct treatment, and epidemiology numbers.

[BADecker]

oh badecker.

we know you watch superman and think its a documentary .
we know you watch many faux news and think its source info

but one day you will look back on your life and realise how much time you wasted in fantasy land

Hi, franky1 my friend.

You absolutely know that one needs to be true to himself, if it is in lies, or if it is in the truth. Even Satan knows this, and will be destroyed because he can't be untrue to himself and turn back to God.

I saw in one of your posts somewhere, that you actually loaded an active link to something. So, we know that you can do it.

Got any proof? Why don't you link to some of your proof? All you seem to link to is non-hyperlink blab.

Keep it up. Gives us REAL people something to laugh at. I bet even your peers are laughing at you now.

[BADecker]

See? Even funeral directors are agreeing that Covid-19 exists, right?   


New York Funeral Directors Say COVID-19 Deaths are Greatly Exaggerated

"To be honest with you, all the death certificates, they're writing COVID on all the death certificates whether they had a positive test, whether they didn't, so I think, you know again this is my personal opinion, I think like the Mayor (Bill de Blasio) in our city (NYC), they're looking for federal funding and, the more they put COVID on the death certificate the more they can ask for federal funds," Funeral Director, Colonial Home Michael Lanza said. "So I think it's political."

Another funeral director in Queens, NY told Project Veritas that she had one victim autopsied because the sister was furious because she "knew" her sister didn't die from the Coronavirus.

This victim is related to a Supreme Court Justice, but the funeral director did not disclose which justice.

The angry woman said her sister had Alzheimer's and they didn't suction her. "You have to suction her because they forget how to swallow. And um right away they put down COVID-19 on her death certificate and the Supreme Court Justice whoever it is contacted the hospital, they did an independent autopsy, Bingo, no COVID-19," said President of Dimiceli & Sons Funeral Home, Josephine Dimiceli.

BREAKING: Funeral Directors in COVID-19 Epicenter Doubt Legitimacy of Deaths Attributed to Pandemic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5f_6ltv7oI

[franky1]

See? Even funeral directors are agreeing that Covid-19 exists, right?    

"To be honest with you, all the death certificates, they're writing COVID on all the death certificates whether they had a positive test, whether they didn't, so I think, you know again this is my personal opinion, I think like the Mayor (Bill de Blasio) in our city (NYC), they're looking for federal funding and, the more they put COVID on the death certificate the more they can ask for federal funds," Funeral Director, Colonial Home Michael Lanza said. "So I think it's political."

and should badecker actually give a crap about facts
the guy then said "can i prove that, no... its just my suspicion"

badecker does like to take things out of context

badecker pretends to show proof but is just providing speculation

but as shown by ACTUAL death certification research
doctors dont just write 'covid'
they actually list what the person came into a hospital with. loads of R nmber symptoms like cough fever
they have tests done and lots of codes added to medical record. showin if done locally or not
then if its a positive test its given a U code if its suspected/pending/negative its given a Z code
other tests are done on blood and also xrays and scans
then treatments are given
and all of this goes on a death certification


but hey.. badecker will remain ignorance and only search out stories that sound like the narrative he wants. not the facts..


and this whole moth about covid deaths started off from a stupid guy that has never been taught how to fill in a death certificate before says he received a 7 page document that shows him how to fill one out..

but when inspecting the document it clearly says list all symptoms from ones closest to death backwards, includes all scans and tests and goes into further detail of which codes to use wither its CDC confirmd/local confirmed or.. suspected/negative but symptomatic

..
well atleast we can all see that badecker doesnt use google and source material research and just uses 'youtube suggestions'

[BADecker]

See? Even funeral directors are agreeing that Covid-19 exists, right?    

"To be honest with you, all the death certificates, they're writing COVID on all the death certificates whether they had a positive test, whether they didn't, so I think, you know again this is my personal opinion, I think like the Mayor (Bill de Blasio) in our city (NYC), they're looking for federal funding and, the more they put COVID on the death certificate the more they can ask for federal funds," Funeral Director, Colonial Home Michael Lanza said. "So I think it's political."

and should badecker actually give a crap about facts
the guy then said "can i prove that, no... its just my suspicion"

badecker does like to take things out of context

badecker pretends to show proof but is just providing speculation

but as shown by ACTUAL death certification research
doctors dont just write 'covid'
they actually list what the person came into a hospital with. loads of R nmber symptoms like cough fever
they have tests done and lots of codes added to medical record. showin if done locally or not
then if its a positive test its given a U code if its suspected/pending/negative its given a Z code
other tests are done on blood and also xrays and scans
then treatments are given
and all of this goes on a death certification


but hey.. badecker will remain ignorance and only search out stories that sound like the narrative he wants. not the facts..


and this whole moth about covid deaths started off from a stupid guy that has never been taught how to fill in a death certificate before says he received a 7 page document that shows him how to fill one out..

but when inspecting the document it clearly says list all symptoms from ones closest to death backwards, includes all scans and tests and goes into further detail of which codes to use wither its CDC confirmd/local confirmed or.. suspected/negative but symptomatic

..
well atleast we can all see that badecker doesnt use google and source material research and just uses 'youtube suggestions'

Lol. All those words, F-1, just to say that even the funeral directors can't prove Covid-19... just as the symptoms could be from any number of things besides Covid-19.

Are you really, finally getting the idea? Or are you just playing with words, as usual?

[BluePowder]

Here is a good one for franky1.  A 1 min video for those who think a vaccine is for Covid. its not, its for killing you or changing your mind and again its video from the source.. Here is the presenter, clearly saying they have a shot to alter brain function, and the way they get middle eastern people to accept it is with flu like symptoms.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/

[franky1]

Lol. All those words, F-1, just to say that even the funeral directors can't prove Covid-19... just as the symptoms could be from any number of things besides Covid-19.

Are you really, finally getting the idea? Or are you just playing with words, as usual?

all that ignorance. even when your shown hundreds of places around the world sending thousands of samples to show the RNA of CV
then there is the actual families of those that died which you wil probably deny exist.

[BADecker]

Lol. All those words, F-1, just to say that even the funeral directors can't prove Covid-19... just as the symptoms could be from any number of things besides Covid-19.

Are you really, finally getting the idea? Or are you just playing with words, as usual?

all that ignorance. even when your shown hundreds of places around the world sending thousands of samples to show the RNA of CV
then there is the actual families of those that died which you wil probably deny exist.

But you can't even show one of those samples with the actual sequencing record.

Just curious. Do you work for the media?

Don't you remember those lists of deaths in the USA alone? Heart disease... over 600,000 deaths last year. Those poor actual families. And worse. That they are being lied to about what killed their relatives. Everybody knows that Dr. Pauling's formula of 5 or 6 grams of vitamin C per day, plus 2 or 3 grams of L-lysine per day, cures heart disease... everybody except the patients who are being lied to by the medical.

And now they are being lied to about Covid.


Say. On a more personal note, is franky1 short for Francess, or Francine, or Francesca... or is it something else?

[franky1]

But you can't even show one of those samples with the actual sequencing record.

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Say. On a more personal note, is franky1 short for Francess, or Francine, or Francesca... or is it something else?

1. i told you before but your ignorance and pretend amnesia is your excuse.
anyway. incase you want to yet again need the info

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/

oh and here is one from arizona
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN997409
so not far for you to find the doctors actually involved.. .. but i know you will find an excuse not to find them


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[BADecker]

But you can't even show one of those samples with the actual sequencing record.

.....

Say. On a more personal note, is franky1 short for Francess, or Francine, or Francesca... or is it something else?

1. i told you before but your ignorance and pretend amnesia is your excuse.
anyway. incase you want to yet again need the info

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/

oh and here is one from arizona
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN997409
so not far for you to find the doctors actually involved.. .. but i know you will find an excuse not to find them


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Well, well, well. Did you notice in the studies that they don't show a specific virus? Rather, they show groups of viruses that are in the same family. Do you know what this means? It means that they are skipping parts of the sequencing process.

Now, it's true that there are a large number of studies in your links. The next step is to find one that goes through the whole sequencing process so that it finds which literal virus is being doing the damage.

But here is the big point. The tests provide a whole family of viruses shown by the sequencing. So, how in the world do they know which one is doing the damage?

Another point is, in order to do the testing that determines which virus is doing the damage, it would take such great detail, and such care would be needed in the testing, that it would almost take forever to find out which virus is the big bad "bug" in any particular case.

In other words, the sequencing is inconclusive for the big bad "bug." Oh, sure. Covid-19 is there. But so are all its brothers and sisters. So why does anybody think that the problem is Covid-19? The whole thing is a big scam. Pick a bug of your choice, and if it is there, tell everybody that this is the bug doing the damage. Up to you which one you pick, but get on the same page with all the other doctors and testers.

The whole thing is a lie.

[franky1]

just so you know. that link was not general viruses over say the last 10 years
but just some of the sequences of just covid patients this year
yep not all samples available in the world. but that link is just ~2000 samples of just covid19

if you actually looked and had brains you would see that

you could if you were not ignorant. actually use those and then compare them to other sources.
but hey we all know your brain doesnt work like that. its stuck in ignorance

but when/if you do grow some braincells you can see that these sequences
do compare to other independant labs/countries studies of covid19

and then you can see they do differ to ones if you were to compare them to previous viruses.
meaning its a new variant and its not a few isolated cases


you will then learn that its these sequences this year are actually tied to patients who actually have medical records and actually have doctors who witness the patients symptoms and doctors that also have other info like xrays and ct scans and blood samples. heck patients even have family members that see the patient deteriorate before going to hospital.

..
but you are a fool if you think that the studies in that link are just random different viruses

your even more a fool to not realise how those studies then help recognise certain patterns of rna. how certain proteins and enzymes are involved which also allow other tests to be used.

so want to know how the real world works out 'the big bad bug'
its easy
have a patient with big bad symptoms and take a swab to see what that person has.. to know what is causing the big bad symptoms.. when they find out the cause
they call it (using your idiot words) 'big bad bug'

and when they start seeing many people with big bad symptoms having the same big bad bug rna. then they know its more then just a one off/variable. but an issue affecting many people badly.. so its a epidemic.
now that happened in december/january. in china. their initial epidemic

now lets speed you up a bit
then when other countries have patients with the same symptoms and they figure out that it is the same rna for the same big bad bug they call it a pandemic

yep .. that right. they can identify the bug. and they can also see its not the same as previous bugs