Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll)

[panjul07]

btw back to demo, the pragmatic gives 100K and I bet around 240$ per spin. try it auto with 6 spins I already earn 5.6K and i don't know why in the demo I always win

That's the magic of demo game, most of the time we will win while playing it which is something reasonable as it is part of how the provider want to attract players.
While on the other side, when we are playing it with real money, it is harder to win unless we are so lucky to hit nice multiplier in several spins only.

From the info (i) section, it's clear that there's no such progression... the jar is only for cosmetics since the feature spin will be triggered randomly upon the collection of the candies.

This type of free spins/bonus game which is triggered randomly without scatters is game that I dont like.
Although maybe the probability to trigger free spins with scatter symbol is the same as the one randomly without scatter but I feel that the one with scatter is better.

[BitcoinPanther]

btw back to demo, the pragmatic gives 100K and I bet around 240$ per spin. try it auto with 6 spins I already earn 5.6K and i don't know why in the demo I always win

That's the magic of demo game, most of the time we will win while playing it which is something reasonable as it is part of how the provider want to attract players.
While on the other side, when we are playing it with real money, it is harder to win unless we are so lucky to hit nice multiplier in several spins only.

Not entirely true though, I tried demo games on different slots provider but not all of them give bonus round that easy, I tried some demo games on new released slots but it gives me a hard time triggering bonus round.

Look at this situation: I am playing a certain slot with 0.50$ stake, next spin would pay 10x.... but what happens if i increase/decrease stake before that spin that was supposed to pay 10x??

There's no way you can predict that the next spin would yield a 10x win. Each spin is random and independent of each other.
In the case of the slot having progressive mechanics like collecting wild (for example Bronco Spirit etc.), you'll lose progression after you change your base bet.

If the progression isn't lost after changing the base bet, tell us here mate what the title is so we can taste the sweet glitch

I'm interested in this progression thing. I was playing Candy Jar Clusters by Pragmatic Play the other day, and I'd noticed that there were these jars to the right of the reels



collecting balls/candies like this



and I mistakenly thought that when the jar is full you are immediately getting free spins or something. But when nothing like that happened, and I kept playing and adding new balls to the full jars, I think I've figured out what the progression is. With collecting balls you are just increasing your chance of getting free spins from, say, 0.1% to 0.2%. Your chance is still very slim, but it's true that it keeps increasing with every new ball collected.

What do you guys think?

I look for this game and read that there is 3 types of bonuses in this game, that may appear wherein one bonus round may trigger the three features depending on what kind of candy appears that triggers the bonus round.  It was stated that the appearance of the candy may randomly trigger the bonus round, meaning even if candy appears, the player may not trigger the bonus round.

In the base game, 3 types of bonus candies may appear. When the yellow candy hits, it is collected in the jar marked Wild, the red candy is collected by the jar marked Free Spins, and the green candy is collected in the jar marked Jackpots. Whenever a candy is collected, it may randomly trigger 10 free spins - 1, 2, or 3 modifiers may trigger with free spins at the same time:

I tried this in demo games and I see it very interesting since one can trigger and claim jackpots simultaneously while in bonus round.

[dansus021]

That's the magic of demo game, most of the time we will win while playing it which is something reasonable as it is part of how the provider want to attract players.
While on the other side, when we are playing it with real money, it is harder to win unless we are so lucky to hit nice multiplier in several spins only.

It is bro  I played it their website of pragmatic play and I don't know how much they set the win rate for user. But I Always win can you image 6 spin and I get 5K if those are real money I definitely going to Withdraw it and having some fun in real life.

[udidrone]

So there is a strategy to do slots   Yesterday I just tried a new game from the pragmatic you know companies always find a new way to create a new game and yesterday there was a truck and a car in a neighboring city that had a pragmatic play sticker on it.   and that is a lit

btw back to demo, the pragmatic gives 100K and I bet around 240$ per spin. try it auto with 6 spins I already earn 5.6K and i don't know why in the demo I always win

There is always a way to encourage you to keep playing one of them is by giving you a win when playing demo or when you are bored of playing all these games then they will provide you with new games basically there is always a way  2 days ago I played the Buffalo Megaways game you know this game gives me high multipliers on the first buy feature almost 1/2 of max win unfortunately my base bet is low, only 200 IDR  so that's what drives me to keep buying features, instantly I thought why not increase the base bet, right? we can predict the ending I lost all my winnings and deposit and what's more annoying is that Me, you and others are still repeating it  I'm not a gambling addict just a small player and I just want to know how the casino attracts me

[swogerino]

No matter how big you in a demo there is a huge difference if you want to win it in the real game.I found it funny that when I used to play Viking Forge game not that long ago in the demo it gave me straight away two big wins,one over x1000 and one over x6000 while in the real game only after playing hours and hours it finally gave an x1342 multiplier which was not enough to justify all my loses of before,that is why I think the same as you guys the demo is only there to make you kill time when you are bored and also win a game in order to trick you to go to real mode.

[the rise]

So there is a strategy to do slots   Yesterday I just tried a new game from the pragmatic you know companies always find a new way to create a new game and yesterday there was a truck and a car in a neighboring city that had a pragmatic play sticker on it.   and that is a lit

btw back to demo, the pragmatic gives 100K and I bet around 240$ per spin. try it auto with 6 spins I already earn 5.6K and i don't know why in the demo I always win

There is always a way to encourage you to keep playing one of them is by giving you a win when playing demo or when you are bored of playing all these games then they will provide you with new games basically there is always a way  2 days ago I played the Buffalo Megaways game you know this game gives me high multipliers on the first buy feature almost 1/2 of max win unfortunately my base bet is low, only 200 IDR  so that's what drives me to keep buying features, instantly I thought why not increase the base bet, right? we can predict the ending I lost all my winnings and deposit and what's more annoying is that Me, you and others are still repeating it  I'm not a gambling addict just a small player and I just want to know how the casino attracts me

lol 

why are you telling the truth, when playing slots at the beginning which is relaxing, step by step emotions will increase whether you are experiencing defeat or winning, and finally you raise your bet and everything runs out and you close the device, then imagine winning and the thing repeats itself again.

[masulum]

No matter how big you in a demo there is a huge difference if you want to win it in the real game.I found it funny that when I used to play Viking Forge game not that long ago in the demo it gave me straight away two big wins,one over x1000 and one over x6000 while in the real game only after playing hours and hours it finally gave an x1342 multiplier which was not enough to justify all my loses of before,that is why I think the same as you guys the demo is only there to make you kill time when you are bored and also win a game in order to trick you to go to real mode.

what differentiates the most between the demo and real versions is emotion. because the money used in each bet is not the money we have. It's just virtual money for playing in the demo. When he in a real game, apart from finding it difficult to win, emotional stress which can be unstable for each person can influence the desire to place a bet. especially when he have been waiting for free spins, but he can't get a single free spins until his balance runs out.

[panjul07]

btw back to demo, the pragmatic gives 100K and I bet around 240$ per spin. try it auto with 6 spins I already earn 5.6K and i don't know why in the demo I always win

That's the magic of demo game, most of the time we will win while playing it which is something reasonable as it is part of how the provider want to attract players.
While on the other side, when we are playing it with real money, it is harder to win unless we are so lucky to hit nice multiplier in several spins only.

Not entirely true though, I tried demo games on different slots provider but not all of them give bonus round that easy, I tried some demo games on new released slots but it gives me a hard time triggering bonus round.

We are not talking about how often triggering bonus round in demo mode vs real mode, it is more about the RTP.
To make it sure, you need to compare like playing 100-200 spins in demo mode vs 100-200 spins in real mode.
Although it is just small size of sample, but I think you will find the difference, which one give you better return.
There is no proof that the RTP in demo mode is bigger than real mode, but I believe most people agree that demo mode gives better result than real mode most of the time.

[mu_enrico]

I believe the RTP is the same between demo and real mode... The big difference is the user's balance. It's way easier to profit if you have a $100K balance compared to, let's say, $100 in real play. For example, after I lost 10 times buying bonuses @$20 in the demo, I'd start buying with @$100, and so on, after that, I would 99% end up in profit before I got tired—the 1% of the time I left the game not because of I wasted all my balance, but simply got bored/tired. But keep in mind your profit will be small, compared to your $100k balance.

The same scenario can be applied when you, let's say, deposit IDR 2 million and do IDR 20K bonus buys. It's easier to get small profits because you can do enough spin to feel the volatility.

[dansus021]

btw back to demo, the pragmatic gives 100K and I bet around 240$ per spin. try it auto with 6 spins I already earn 5.6K and i don't know why in the demo I always win

That's the magic of demo game, most of the time we will win while playing it which is something reasonable as it is part of how the provider want to attract players.
While on the other side, when we are playing it with real money, it is harder to win unless we are so lucky to hit nice multiplier in several spins only.

Not entirely true though, I tried demo games on different slots provider but not all of them give bonus round that easy, I tried some demo games on new released slots but it gives me a hard time triggering bonus round.

We are not talking about how often triggering bonus round in demo mode vs real mode, it is more about the RTP.
To make it sure, you need to compare like playing 100-200 spins in demo mode vs 100-200 spins in real mode.
Although it is just small size of sample, but I think you will find the difference, which one give you better return.
There is no proof that the RTP in demo mode is bigger than real mode, but I believe most people agree that demo mode gives better result than real mode most of the time.

Oh I don't know guys I Tried Directly start demon in stake.com and the pragmatic website both give me big win. even my friend tried it too. maybe the only reason is like @panjul07 said that is because demo account or like @mu_enrico said that maybe we can get easy profit with 100K balance

[udidrone]

why are you telling the truth, when playing slots at the beginning which is relaxing, step by step emotions will increase whether you are experiencing defeat or winning, and finally you raise your bet and everything runs out and you close the device, then imagine winning and the thing repeats itself again.

But now I can anticipate it I mean when I win big then I will move to another game we must realize the game will not give a continuous wins so when the game gives it once, we have to stop or move right? almost all of us understand about the theory but failed in practice Oh yah, I just tried the new game Candy Jar Clusters  from 10 times the experiment only won once for me this is a bad game as a new game, he didn't even welcome me well, but it's normal because this game offers high multiplier up to10000 I don't advise you to try it unless you are ready to lose and sometimes the luck of each player is different.

[nullama]

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what differentiates the most between the demo and real versions is emotion. because the money used in each bet is not the money we have. It's just virtual money for playing in the demo. When he in a real game, apart from finding it difficult to win, emotional stress which can be unstable for each person can influence the desire to place a bet. especially when he have been waiting for free spins, but he can't get a single free spins until his balance runs out.

Yeah, the actual odds and mechanics of the game should be the same in both cases.

But as you mentioned, the emotion that the gambler feels is way different when playing with real money.

When the gambler just wins "fake points" then nothing really exciting happens, if anything the gambler would be annoyed that he didn't play with real money.

And when they lose those "fake points" then also nothing happens because the gambler doesn't feel the loss of real money.

In the end, if it was the same, most gamblers would simply play with "fake points", but in reality it is the idea of getting rich that makes gambling interesting.

[Bitinity]

Do you guys think that the "1000" version of Starlight Princess is successful upgrade by Pragmatic so they released another "1000" version for the Gates of Olympus? I tried it with normal spins both with the double chance and non double chance for around 600 spins and 15 buy bonus, here is the best result I got:

The best is 333x only and it came from bonus buy, I feel it harder to win big multiplier in this 1000 version. The same as I experienced when I tried the Starlight Princess 1000. The best multiplier when I played with normal spins was no more than 100x so above image is all win from bonus buy. Even using double chance seems to be not giving difference as the free spins is still rare to come.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Do you guys think that the "1000" version of Starlight Princess is successful upgrade by Pragmatic so they released another "1000" version for the Gates of Olympus? I tried it with normal spins both with the double chance and non double chance for around 600 spins and 15 buy bonus, here is the best result I got:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/20/ExBBZ.png
The best is 333x only and it came from bonus buy, I feel it harder to win big multiplier in this 1000 version. The same as I experienced when I tried the Starlight Princess 1000. The best multiplier when I played with normal spins was no more than 100x so above image is all win from bonus buy. Even using double chance seems to be not giving difference as the free spins is still rare to come.

Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same 

The question is whether Pragmatic has succeeded in attracting users' attention by releasing games with high multipliers? the answer is YES On stake.com we can see how many users are playing the game and when this post was made, the total active players were 564 that's more than active players on the original versions of  Olympus and Sweet Bonanza as the most popular game from the Pragmatic provider. Honestly I would avoid games from Pragmatic that provide multipliers over 10000x I had a lot of bad experiences there, except just for fun and just curiosity with low bets.

[Bitinity]

Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same 

I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.

The question is whether Pragmatic has succeeded in attracting users' attention by releasing games with high multipliers? the answer is YES On stake.com we can see how many users are playing the game and when this post was made, the total active players were 564 that's more than active players on the original versions of  Olympus and Sweet Bonanza as the most popular game from the Pragmatic provider. Honestly I would avoid games from Pragmatic that provide multipliers over 10000x I had a lot of bad experiences there, except just for fun and just curiosity with low bets.

The current on going promotion Stake vs Eddie where players need to beat the multiplier in this game may also affect the number of players who play this game. Lets see when the promotion end, will the number of players remain the same of will be decreased a lot.

[maydna]

Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same 

I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.

Winning large amounts of winnings from the Pragmatic provider is very difficult. I tried to avoid it for a while because of the difficulty of getting the big multiplier. But I think in the last few months, there has been a change in many slot providers. Previously, I could win from the Play'N Go provider, but now I can't win even though I tried playing it for up to 300 spins.

I also feel this from slot providers Hacksaw or Push Games. But we realize that this slot game requires luck to get a big multiplier that can give us big wins. And I think slot game fans will continue to try it because they still want to hunt for big wins from big multipliers.

[komisariatku]

Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same 

I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.

Winning large amounts of winnings from the Pragmatic provider is very difficult. I tried to avoid it for a while because of the difficulty of getting the big multiplier. But I think in the last few months, there has been a change in many slot providers. Previously, I could win from the Play'N Go provider, but now I can't win even though I tried playing it for up to 300 spins.

I also feel this from slot providers Hacksaw or Push Games. But we realize that this slot game requires luck to get a big multiplier that can give us big wins. And I think slot game fans will continue to try it because they still want to hunt for big wins from big multipliers.

Yep, slot machines are indeed a very brutal and surprising game, sometimes we don't get any wins even though we have spun hundreds of times or bought bonuses many times. But sometimes we can get bonuses and wins easily, even with capital of $10 we can win up to hundreds of USD

I also agree that currently it is very difficult for PP to get good wins, even to get back the purchase capital is very difficult, often we only get 20% or 30% of the purchase. I have felt this since many new slot machines were launched by PP, so I feel their old games have become very difficult to win, I prefer to play their new games, because sometimes I feel winning there is easier even if it's only a small win. I rarely play slots from hacksaw and have never gotten any wins there, it is very difficult to get a win there, slot machines from hacksaw are like a nightmare for me, like slot machines from no limit

[Hirose UK]

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Yeah, casinos need to ensure they only provide services to the people from countries they are legally allowed to.

People with VPNs cannot easily be traced to their original country, so it's hard for casinos to enforce their rules.

In the end, it's risky to use a VPN because if you win big they might actually do a check and if found that you used a VPN, especially from a country where they cannot provide the service, then you will be out of luck and get no money. And they would be allowed to do that.

Some casinos prohibit the use of VPN and some gamblers who live in countries with gambling restrictions rely solely on VPN to access the site.
But there are also some casinos that allow VPN users, but when accessing with VPN there will be many providers that cannot be accessed and of course gamblers will only have small choice of games for them to risk their money.
So far there has been no solution to problems like this where gamblers who use VPN can still access all existing providers.

The first and most important thing is that the country we live in is not prohibited country in the jurisdiction of the casino license and we must be able from the start to use casino that actually accepts VPN.
There no harm in asking the support team first about using VPN and I sure the support team can definitely provide the best solution for each customer.
If this is done and permission is given to use VPN, then we don't need to worry about big wins that we get in the future.

[maydna]

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Yep, slot machines are indeed a very brutal and surprising game, sometimes we don't get any wins even though we have spun hundreds of times or bought bonuses many times. But sometimes we can get bonuses and wins easily, even with capital of $10 we can win up to hundreds of USD

I also agree that currently it is very difficult for PP to get good wins, even to get back the purchase capital is very difficult, often we only get 20% or 30% of the purchase. I have felt this since many new slot machines were launched by PP, so I feel their old games have become very difficult to win, I prefer to play their new games, because sometimes I feel winning there is easier even if it's only a small win. I rarely play slots from hacksaw and have never gotten any wins there, it is very difficult to get a win there, slot machines from hacksaw are like a nightmare for me, like slot machines from no limit

That's why we must be very careful about using money to play slots because this game can drain all the money we have deposited. But with self-control and limits, we will only immediately use some of the money because we remember the limits and always try to stop ourselves before we experience even more losses. We can win easily, but it depends on the luck we have, and if that luck doesn't come when we are playing slots, we won't be able to win.

I often buy the bonus feature, but that doesn't help much when playing Pragmatic Play. Even if I repeat it three times or more, it doesn't guarantee I can win big. Indeed, PP launched many interesting slot games, and we can place bets at minimum bets, but if we are not careful, we will only lose more money. Playing Hacksaw is also the same as PP, where you can lose your money without getting a chance to win even a small win. This is why, when playing slots, we have to determine how many dollars we can use to prevent many losses.

[nullama]

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Some casinos prohibit the use of VPN and some gamblers who live in countries with gambling restrictions rely solely on VPN to access the site.
But there are also some casinos that allow VPN users, but when accessing with VPN there will be many providers that cannot be accessed and of course gamblers will only have small choice of games for them to risk their money.
So far there has been no solution to problems like this where gamblers who use VPN can still access all existing providers.

The first and most important thing is that the country we live in is not prohibited country in the jurisdiction of the casino license and we must be able from the start to use casino that actually accepts VPN.
There no harm in asking the support team first about using VPN and I sure the support team can definitely provide the best solution for each customer.
If this is done and permission is given to use VPN, then we don't need to worry about big wins that we get in the future.

Yeah, as far as I can tell the VPN restriction is to ensure that the gambler is from a country where the casino can provide a legal service.

If the identity of the person is provided, maybe they can use a VPN, but still I would be wary of using one, as they might be quick to say no to when you win something.

It's better to be safe than sorry with these things...