'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"'

[Spendulus]

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You should read it. It's about how extremists use false information to radicalize a captive audience and potentially recruit new members.

What this sums up to is that you, representative of "The Left", acts and rationalizes matters to protect and shield radical, violent extremists, such as those under the umbrella of Antifa.

Squabbling over the definitions of words and whether Trump can or cannot do xyz while cities burn is quite odd...

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Then it immediately contradicts itself by saying:

"Federal law defines terrorism as a criminal attack intended to intimidate and coerce civilians in order to influence government policy or otherwise affect government conduct."

ANTIFA and BLM fall well within that definition, and the statute in fact does exist. I am using an archived version of the site because it was intentionally scrubbed to soften the effect of the designation for political purposes. The current version has it under the "Counterterrorism and Domestic" category. I suppose you believe that means the NJ DHS thinks ANTIFA are counter-terrorists now?

You are now acting as the sole and final arbiter as to what a terrorist organization is. That's to be expected. So long as you aren't continuing to claim that Antifa wasn't declared/designated/whatever a "terrorist organization" by the government.

"Counterterrorism" and "Domestic" are two separate categories. Let's see, what other, non-Antifa reports fall under those two categories? Let's take a look.

White Racially Motivated Extremists Remain Resilient
Boogaloo Movement Gains Traction Amid Civil Unrest
Far-Right Extremists Leverage Anti-Lockdown Sentiments

And this one I think you could appreciate the most:

Disinformation Fuels Extremist Narratives

You should read it. It's about how extremists use false information to radicalize a captive audience and potentially recruit new members.

Am I? I thought I was referencing the federal statute that clearly demonstrates ANTIFA's past and current activities fall well within the federal statute definition of terrorism.


NJ DHS said this: "Anarchist Extremists: Antifa
June 12, 2017 · Domestic Terrorism"

https://archive.is/vS2Zx

That is the government designating ANTIFA terrorists. Counterterrorism is what law enforcement calls it when they go after terrorists like ANTIFA. Slapping the word domestic in front of terrorist doesn't make them less terrorists even if you did so. The fact is regardless ANTIFA is an international terrorist organization, this is all very clearly documented.

It doesn't matter who else falls under those categories. ANTIFA are terrorists. All stop. You enjoy desperately struggling to find new ways to support terrorist organizations because you agree with their goals though.

[TwitchySeal]

It doesn't matter who else falls under those categories. ANTIFA are terrorists. All stop. You enjoy desperately struggling to find new ways to support terrorist organizations because you agree with their goals though.

I feel like stating as fact that [any trump critic] supports terrorism is going to be the new TDS for when they can't think of anything  else of substance to say but gotta keep attacking.

[Spendulus]

It doesn't matter who else falls under those categories. ANTIFA are terrorists. All stop. You enjoy desperately struggling to find new ways to support terrorist organizations because you agree with their goals though.

I feel like stating as fact that [any trump critic] supports terrorism is going to be the new TDS for when they can't think of anything  else of substance to say but gotta keep attacking.

That's your problem, not mine.

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"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

[TwitchySeal]

"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

Why post a video of someone else reading an article for you when you know how to read?

The headline was written as if the dead guy is a villain and the shooter a hero, but we don't know enough details to make that call.

The dead man, identified as Garrett Foster, was pushing his paraplegic fiancee in her wheelchair just moments before the shooting.

Foster’s mother, Sheila Foster, spoke to “Good Morning America” on Sunday. She told the show that her son had attended several peaceful protests with his fiancee Whitney Mitchell, who is a quadruple amputee.

During the demonstration, a vehicle had honked, turned down a road and then sped toward protesters, witness Michael Capochiano told the Austin American-Statesman.

Foster, who Capochiano said was carrying a rifle, approached the vehicle and was shot by the driver. The driver then drove away, Capochiano said.

But according to Foster’s mother, the man “got out of his car and started firing shots, and my son was shot three times.”

Foster was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Sheila Foster told “GMA” that she wouldn’t be surprised if her son was carrying a gun because he was licensed to carry and probably “would’ve felt the need to protect himself.”

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/26/shooting-at-blm-rally-claims-life-of-man-pushing-amputee-fiancee-in-wheelchair-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJO2L_kJr4

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"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

Why post a video of someone else reading an article for you when you know how to read?

The headline was written as if the dead guy is a villain and the shooter a hero, but we don't know enough details to make that call.

The dead man, identified as Garrett Foster, was pushing his paraplegic fiancee in her wheelchair just moments before the shooting.

Foster’s mother, Sheila Foster, spoke to “Good Morning America” on Sunday. She told the show that her son had attended several peaceful protests with his fiancee Whitney Mitchell, who is a quadruple amputee.

During the demonstration, a vehicle had honked, turned down a road and then sped toward protesters, witness Michael Capochiano told the Austin American-Statesman.

Foster, who Capochiano said was carrying a rifle, approached the vehicle and was shot by the driver. The driver then drove away, Capochiano said.

But according to Foster’s mother, the man “got out of his car and started firing shots, and my son was shot three times.”

Foster was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Sheila Foster told “GMA” that she wouldn’t be surprised if her son was carrying a gun because he was licensed to carry and probably “would’ve felt the need to protect himself.”

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/26/shooting-at-blm-rally-claims-life-of-man-pushing-amputee-fiancee-in-wheelchair-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJO2L_kJr4

The video isn't for me, it is for you. I read more in a day than you do in a week. People are getting surrounded in their cars, pulled out, beat, shot, stabbed, and they surround a random vehicle on the street armed with an assault rifle, and in your mind there is a situation where the armed mob is the good guy?

This is not just about legal fault, but about being reckless, ignorant, and endangering others and then just slapping a "protest" sticker on it to absolve you of all your criminal sins. These rioters are going to be allowed to act like a bunch of large violent children, until their not, and then when they are actually stopped it will be be a holocaust and Trump will literally be Hitler, literally.

[Spendulus]

"Armed BLM Supporter Shot And Killed In Austin After Rushing Car, CO Leftist Shoots Another Protester"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWw1U73qVfw

Why post a video of someone else reading an article for you when you know how to read?

The headline was written as if the dead guy is a villain and the shooter a hero, but we don't know enough details to make that call.

The dead man, identified as Garrett Foster, was pushing his paraplegic fiancee in her wheelchair just moments before the shooting.

Foster’s mother, Sheila Foster, spoke to “Good Morning America” on Sunday. She told the show that her son had attended several peaceful protests with his fiancee Whitney Mitchell, who is a quadruple amputee.

During the demonstration, a vehicle had honked, turned down a road and then sped toward protesters, witness Michael Capochiano told the Austin American-Statesman.

Foster, who Capochiano said was carrying a rifle, approached the vehicle and was shot by the driver. The driver then drove away, Capochiano said.

But according to Foster’s mother, the man “got out of his car and started firing shots, and my son was shot three times.”

Foster was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Sheila Foster told “GMA” that she wouldn’t be surprised if her son was carrying a gun because he was licensed to carry and probably “would’ve felt the need to protect himself.”

https://eurweb.com/2020/07/26/shooting-at-blm-rally-claims-life-of-man-pushing-amputee-fiancee-in-wheelchair-video/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJO2L_kJr4

an AK-47 assault rifle-wielding Garrett Foster who first took 5-unsuccessful shots at the driver of a black sedan stopped by the BLM protesters. Following which the driver who was allegedly being shot at, returned fire, killing Foster after a brief exchange of fire. The driver took 3 shots from a 9mm at Garrett which proved fatal.

A video that soon surfaced online shows Foster on record open-carrying an AK-47. The screengrabs of the shooting incident show Garrett pointing his weapon towards the vehicle.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/austin-blm-protester-garrett-foster-killed-austin-5-ak-47-three-9mm-shots-fired-825290

Let me paraphrase this for you. "BLM supporter tries to kill but can't hit anything with five shots from rifle, is shot dead by opponent with pistol."

If you knew anything about firearms you'd know how ridiculous that was.

[Spendulus]

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You are now acting as the sole and final arbiter as to what a terrorist organization is. That's to be expected. So long as you aren't continuing to claim that Antifa wasn't declared/designated/whatever a "terrorist organization" by the government.
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But why not look at what Trump said. "On May 31, President Donald Trump announced that the US government would designate Antifa as a terrorist organization".

That's future tense, not past.

[TwitchySeal]

"Trump's antifa tweet is right-wing catnip"

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-antifa-tweet-right-wing-catnip-potentially-troubling-consequences-ncna1222686



Cat nip.  I like that.

[PrimeNumber7]

"Trump's antifa tweet is right-wing catnip"

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-antifa-tweet-right-wing-catnip-potentially-troubling-consequences-ncna1222686



Cat nip.  I like that.

Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

[Spendulus]

"Trump's antifa tweet is right-wing catnip"

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-antifa-tweet-right-wing-catnip-potentially-troubling-consequences-ncna1222686



Cat nip.  I like that.

Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

According to Twich and nut, the domestic terrorism by Antifa cannot be called domestic terrorism because blah-blah-blah.

Antifa are being used by ..... and the Twitch Nuts of the world don't even see it.

"Trump's antifa tweet is right-wing catnip"

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-antifa-tweet-right-wing-catnip-potentially-troubling-consequences-ncna1222686



Cat nip.  I like that.

Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

Antifa nothing but pawns, tools... used like puppets by the usual sources.

And catnip is out for the lions, and the tigers.

Trump should take steps to freeze bank accounts of those that fund ANTIFA as suggested in your article. Someone is clearly funding the terrorism occurring in Portland, and steps should be taken to cutoff the funding, so the terrorism will stop.

Freezing the money is so final a step. Then they know you've been watching. Leaving them open enables tracing back up the chain of command.

[Gyfts]

an AK-47 assault rifle-wielding Garrett Foster who first took 5-unsuccessful shots at the driver of a black sedan stopped by the BLM protesters. Following which the driver who was allegedly being shot at, returned fire, killing Foster after a brief exchange of fire. The driver took 3 shots from a 9mm at Garrett which proved fatal.

A video that soon surfaced online shows Foster on record open-carrying an AK-47. The screengrabs of the shooting incident show Garrett pointing his weapon towards the vehicle.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/austin-blm-protester-garrett-foster-killed-austin-5-ak-47-three-9mm-shots-fired-825290

Let me paraphrase this for you. "BLM supporter tries to kill but can't hit anything with five shots from rifle, is shot dead by opponent with pistol."

If you knew anything about firearms you'd know how ridiculous that was.

I read that Garret Foster might've tried to blow out the tires to prevent the car from escaping, which is why he missed 5 shots. That right there tells you he wouldn't have been justified in firing the shots because if you fear for your life, shooting out tires isn't a valid response to shoot in fear for your life.

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"Seattle PD Rushed To Hospital After Leftist Detonated Explosive On His Leg, There Is A Word For This"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5gaSoO2n2M




"Nadler Calls Antifa Violence A 'Myth' In Stunning Example Of DC Disconnect"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nadler-calls-antifa-violence-myth-stunning-example-dc-disconnect

[PrimeNumber7]

"Nadler Calls Antifa Violence A 'Myth' In Stunning Example Of DC Disconnect"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nadler-calls-antifa-violence-myth-stunning-example-dc-disconnect

Nadler is in a very safe district, winning each of his general elections with a margin of victory in excess of 50 points. His only real threat to being removed from office is via a primary defeat, although he appears to be a part of two parties, so even this may not be a major threat.

Due to the above, he has little incentive to do anything except tow the party line. His statement will not harm him personally, however I am curious as to how this will affect others in his party who are not in as safe of districts.

[Spendulus]

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I read that Garret Foster might've tried to blow out the tires to prevent the car from escaping, which is why he missed 5 shots. That right there tells you he wouldn't have been justified in firing the shots because if you fear for your life, shooting out tires isn't a valid response to shoot in fear for your life.

A person might be safe trying shooting out tires in some place where he could safely assume his opponent was unarmed. Playing big tough guy like on TV?

[TwitchySeal]

The video isn't for me, it is for you. I read more in a day than you do in a week.

Oh.  Well there's no need to do that since I also know how to read.

People are getting surrounded in their cars, pulled out, beat, shot, stabbed, and they surround a random vehicle on the street armed with an assault rifle, and in your mind there is a situation where the armed mob is the good guy?

I don't just make up something in my mind and then convince myself it's real.  There wasn't enough information available when you posted the video.

an AK-47 assault rifle-wielding Garrett Foster who first took 5-unsuccessful shots at the driver of a black sedan stopped by the BLM protesters. Following which the driver who was allegedly being shot at, returned fire, killing Foster after a brief exchange of fire. The driver took 3 shots from a 9mm at Garrett which proved fatal.

A video that soon surfaced online shows Foster on record open-carrying an AK-47. The screengrabs of the shooting incident show Garrett pointing his weapon towards the vehicle.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/austin-blm-protester-garrett-foster-killed-austin-5-ak-47-three-9mm-shots-fired-825290

Let me paraphrase this for you. "BLM supporter tries to kill but can't hit anything with five shots from rifle, is shot dead by opponent with pistol."

If you knew anything about firearms you'd know how ridiculous that was.

I don't think this article is accurate.  It's from last night, the video it's based on is 'not conclusive',  it's poorly written and I can't find any reliable source to back it up.  Since last night there have been some updates from police and witness accounts - the driver firing his 9mm 3 times and a third protester shooting at the car as he sped away but no mention of the victim shooting first at all.  When the driver called 911 he said someone pointed a rifle at him, no mention of it being fired.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, just sharing what I've found.

[Spendulus]

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I don't think this article is accurate.  It's from last night, the video it's based on is 'not conclusive',  it's poorly written and I can't find any reliable source to back it up.  Since last night there have been some updates from police and witness accounts - the driver firing his 9mm 3 times and a third protester shooting at the car as he sped away but no mention of the victim shooting first at all.  When the driver called 911 he said someone pointed a rifle at him, no mention of it being fired.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, just sharing what I've found.

No problem, I'm good with waiting to see the facts. Pointed a rifle at him, did they?  That's a no-no. If that was done to a cop he'd be well within his rules of engagement to shoot to kill.

By the way, how's that Theory of Flynn Bad coming along? and the Really Really Impeach Trump This Time strategy?  The Theory of All is Peace and Goodness With Antifa?

[Gyfts]

"Nadler Calls Antifa Violence A 'Myth' In Stunning Example Of DC Disconnect"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nadler-calls-antifa-violence-myth-stunning-example-dc-disconnect

Nadler is in a very safe district, winning each of his general elections with a margin of victory in excess of 50 points. His only real threat to being removed from office is via a primary defeat, although he appears to be a part of two parties, so even this may not be a major threat.

Due to the above, he has little incentive to do anything except tow the party line. His statement will not harm him personally, however I am curious as to how this will affect others in his party who are not in as safe of districts.

Nadler isn't concerned about his election. To use Trump's line, Nadler could shoot someone and still get elected, much less calling Antifa violence a myth.

He's worried about what's gonna happen in November. From what I'm gathering, democrats are reluctant to condemn Antifa's violence because of how closely tied they are to social justice/BLM. I mean, these are extreme far left protesters who aren't voting red so we know who's side they're on. Condemning Antifa would mean democrats would have to own up to the violence or associate their violence to their own party which gives Trump a solid line of attack. Another problem democrats run into is that because Antifa are so closely knitted with BLM, condemning them would create a perception that democrats are not in line with the far left agenda of BLM which is something democrats can't do either. Can't alienate the far left, you need them to win the Presidency.

Moderate democrats are caught in a bad place right now. I can't imagine what type of conversation Biden's staffers are having right now trying to navigate the strategy to capture moderates and leftist when their agendas don't actually align.

[Spendulus]

...I can't imagine what type of conversation Biden's staffers are having right now trying to navigate the strategy to capture moderates and leftist when their agendas don't actually align.

There is no conversation. Moderates were given the face and empty shell of Biden, that's all.

The schemes to provoke harsh government response, to the innocent little Antifa boys and girls isn't going to work either.

Liberal Media would have loved clips of authoritarian storm troopers of Trump.