'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"'

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"Nadler Calls Antifa Violence A 'Myth' In Stunning Example Of DC Disconnect"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nadler-calls-antifa-violence-myth-stunning-example-dc-disconnect

Nadler is in a very safe district, winning each of his general elections with a margin of victory in excess of 50 points. His only real threat to being removed from office is via a primary defeat, although he appears to be a part of two parties, so even this may not be a major threat.

Due to the above, he has little incentive to do anything except tow the party line. His statement will not harm him personally, however I am curious as to how this will affect others in his party who are not in as safe of districts.

Nadler isn't concerned about his election. To use Trump's line, Nadler could shoot someone and still get elected, much less calling Antifa violence a myth.

He's worried about what's gonna happen in November. From what I'm gathering, democrats are reluctant to condemn Antifa's violence because of how closely tied they are to social justice/BLM. I mean, these are extreme far left protesters who aren't voting red so we know who's side they're on. Condemning Antifa would mean democrats would have to own up to the violence or associate their violence to their own party which gives Trump a solid line of attack. Another problem democrats run into is that because Antifa are so closely knitted with BLM, condemning them would create a perception that democrats are not in line with the far left agenda of BLM which is something democrats can't do either. Can't alienate the far left, you need them to win the Presidency.

Moderate democrats are caught in a bad place right now. I can't imagine what type of conversation Biden's staffers are having right now trying to navigate the strategy to capture moderates and leftist when their agendas don't actually align.

In May and early June there were a lot of people at the various protests who wanted to actually protest (even if under dubious circumstances), and there were some agitators who were causing a lot of violence. This was the opportunity for Democrats to condemn the violence.

BLM tried political violence in September 2016, but it was too late in the election season to have a major effect and the Governor was able to quickly stop it with the National guard. This election season, BLM started the political violence too early. They were able to bully people into a ~70% approval rating, but will eventually face strong backlash with violence levels not seen since the civil war. The left wing media is not going to be able to hide the violence forever.

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....In May and early June there were a lot of people at the various protests who wanted to actually protest (even if under dubious circumstances), and there were some agitators who were causing a lot of violence. This was the opportunity for Democrats to condemn the violence.

BLM tried political violence in September 2016, but it was too late in the election season to have a major effect and the Governor was able to quickly stop it with the National guard. This election season, BLM started the political violence too early. They were able to bully people into a ~70% approval rating, but will eventually face strong backlash with violence levels not seen since the civil war. The left wing media is not going to be able to hide the violence forever.

I wonder how people can afford to "protest" for two months straight.

We're way, way past George Floyd "protests."

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The video isn't for me, it is for you. I read more in a day than you do in a week.

Oh.  Well there's no need to do that since I also know how to read.

People are getting surrounded in their cars, pulled out, beat, shot, stabbed, and they surround a random vehicle on the street armed with an assault rifle, and in your mind there is a situation where the armed mob is the good guy?

I don't just make up something in my mind and then convince myself it's real.  There wasn't enough information available when you posted the video.

an AK-47 assault rifle-wielding Garrett Foster who first took 5-unsuccessful shots at the driver of a black sedan stopped by the BLM protesters. Following which the driver who was allegedly being shot at, returned fire, killing Foster after a brief exchange of fire. The driver took 3 shots from a 9mm at Garrett which proved fatal.

A video that soon surfaced online shows Foster on record open-carrying an AK-47. The screengrabs of the shooting incident show Garrett pointing his weapon towards the vehicle.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/austin-blm-protester-garrett-foster-killed-austin-5-ak-47-three-9mm-shots-fired-825290

Let me paraphrase this for you. "BLM supporter tries to kill but can't hit anything with five shots from rifle, is shot dead by opponent with pistol."

If you knew anything about firearms you'd know how ridiculous that was.

I don't think this article is accurate.  It's from last night, the video it's based on is 'not conclusive',  it's poorly written and I can't find any reliable source to back it up.  Since last night there have been some updates from police and witness accounts - the driver firing his 9mm 3 times and a third protester shooting at the car as he sped away but no mention of the victim shooting first at all.  When the driver called 911 he said someone pointed a rifle at him, no mention of it being fired.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, just sharing what I've found.

Knowing how to do something doesn't mean you do it. Excuse me, but you make shit up in your mind and convince yourself it is real constantly.


The video was inconclusive was it?  Weird how when conclusions don't work with your ideological goals, suddenly things become nuanced and inconclusive. Were the videos about the attacks on Nick Sandman inconclusive? Were the claims by Jussie Smollet inconclusive? Was the video about George Floyd inconclusive? No, of course they were very clearly supporting your conclusions, therefore be careful not to review them TOO carefully, otherwise you might find inconsistencies before you can have a hysterical overreaction.

I don't think you are accurate.

Let me break it down for you. Blocking the road. Illegal. Blocking the road while using loaded fire arms to menace and intimidate drivers. Illegal. Pointing a loaded firearm at some one not engaged in hostilities against you or others? Very illegal. That's called assault with a deadly weapon illegal. The simple fact that the PERPETRATOR (not the victim) raised his rifle at the driver, gave the driver 100% of the legal requisite he needed to use lethal force to end that man's life, end. Victims are people who are acted upon illegally b y other bad actors. This dead guy was the perpetrator, not the victim. You keep defending violent murdering terrorists and casting them as poor victims threatening people with assault rifles and stopping traffic.  

In summary, the man with the rifle is the perpetrator and committed all the crimes he needed to in order to firmly put himself int he offender category instead of the victim category you are so desperate to hide him behind. How does it feel to be on the side of murdering terrorists? I wonder how long it will be until they attack your own family.

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https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1288212348780544002/photo/1

Biden released a statement on Antifa without calling them by name. Meh, it's something, albeit hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage too late but whatever works.

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I don't think you are accurate.

Let me break it down for you. Blocking the road. Illegal. Blocking the road while using loaded fire arms to menace and intimidate drivers. Illegal. Pointing a loaded firearm at some one not engaged in hostilities against you or others? Very illegal. That's called assault with a deadly weapon illegal. The simple fact that the PERPETRATOR (not the victim) raised his rifle at the driver, gave the driver 100% of the legal requisite he needed to use lethal force to end that man's life, end. Victims are people who are acted upon illegally b y other bad actors. This dead guy was the perpetrator, not the victim. You keep defending violent murdering terrorists and casting them as poor victims threatening people with assault rifles and stopping traffic.  

In summary, the man with the rifle is the perpetrator and committed all the crimes he needed to in order to firmly put himself int he offender category instead of the victim category you are so desperate to hide him behind. How does it feel to be on the side of murdering terrorists? I wonder how long it will be until they attack your own family.

I would like to add something here, that this is a much clearer case than the one where the car on the blocked off freeway slammed into the protesters.

Pointing a gun at someone is, in the absence of just cause, "brandishing a firearm." It's considered a serious crime, for several reasons. Where I live it's a felony offense. One is that someone may take it seriously and shoot the one waving the gun around. That appears to be what happened here.

Note this happened in liberal Austin, Texas. But liberal Texas ain't liberal New York.

PS:  The exchange of gunfire is definitely five shots, then three.

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"Louisville: BLM Activists Demand Protection Money From Local Businesses As Black Militia Marches In The Streets"

www.informationliberation.com/?id=61624

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Its been nine weeks since Trump's tweet and Antifa has still not been designated a terrorist organization. It's almost as if he doesn't possess that kind of authority, or else ZeroHedge incorrectly titled the article this thread is based upon. I for one am shocked.

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Its been nine weeks since Trump's tweet and Antifa has still not been designated a terrorist organization. It's almost as if he doesn't possess that kind of authority, or else ZeroHedge incorrectly titled the article this thread is based upon. I for one am shocked.

I can't hear you over the sound of the terrorism and mafia extortion.


"Portland: Antifa Rioters Shift to Attacking People in Their Homes And in The Streets"

www.informationliberation.com/?id=61632

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Darn, I'm not seeing anyone there that I'd invite to the Trump Victory Party.

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Also, to prove a point about the funding of Antifa, there are videos of people going to piles of bricks in the middle of cities. How would a pile of random bricks get to the middle of a street?  Here is an example
https://mobile.twitter.com/fleccas/status/1267326702771793920

Just saw this today and remembered we had discussed one of the piles of bricks mentioned:

"Disinformation: Suspicious piles of bricks"

https://www.adl.org/disinformation-suspicious-piles-of-bricks

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Also, to prove a point about the funding of Antifa, there are videos of people going to piles of bricks in the middle of cities. How would a pile of random bricks get to the middle of a street?  Here is an example
https://mobile.twitter.com/fleccas/status/1267326702771793920

Just saw this today and remembered we had discussed one of the piles of bricks mentioned:

"Disinformation: Suspicious piles of bricks"

https://www.adl.org/disinformation-suspicious-piles-of-bricks

Hah, nice try. ADL is a state sponsored Zionist movement. They profit from infiltrating the porous minds of emotionally perturbed Americans seeking a sense of belonging and refuge in the confirmation of their political biases -- totally the antithesis of ZeroHedge. George Soros put those bricks there personally months ago, before he orchestrated the spread of covid, the death of George Floyd, the rise of Antifa, and the selection of Kamala Harris as Joe Biden's running mate. It's all part of his master plan to make billions shorting the U.S. dollar into oblivion, taking our society down with it.

Soros also cancelled my bus trip this morning because he takes perverse pleasure in making me stand out in the hot sun. Now I'm somewhat dehydrated and a bit sunburned. What a dick.

I had just naturally assumed that the piles of bricks were used in Antifa and riot organizational leaders who would point to the bricks and shout to the crowd, "Stand to the left, if you are dumber than a pile of bricks!"

Those would then be given stupid things to do, like stand in the middle of a freeway.

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No wonder they are against Trump. He is destroying their backbone. When this comes out, somebody needs to take Obama and Biden to court for treason... and execution.


Antifa was imported to America from Europe by the Obama-Biden administration to forge domestic terrorism alliance with BLM, new report alleges

Scores of Americans have been angered and sickened by the non-stop violence and thuggery in our nation’s biggest cities that have been occurring all summer long, and their patience is running out.

After the George Floyd incident in May, most of us were rightly indignant over the behavior of a handful of police officers in Minneapolis. And we could also understand the massive protests that took place for weeks immediately following that incident.

But those protests were summarily hijacked by Left-wing Marxist anarchists who couldn’t care less about George Floyd. It’s become obvious by now that two groups are primarily responsible for the violence, looting, theft and destruction — as well as the hare-brained “defund the police” movement — that is roiling through our biggest cities: Antifa and Black Lives Matter.

Well, it turns out that this mayhem not only isn’t random, but it was planned in advance, and the Obama-Biden administration had a huge hand in it. And wouldn’t you know it — Ukraine plays a big role in all of this.

Investigative journalist George Eliason, an American who is currently living in Ukraine, has connected a lot of dots implicating the previous administration in a sinister plot to disrupt the civil society in America and not only drive President Donald Trump from office, but also usher in a form of government that, were they alive today, our founders would once again rebel against.


Big League Politics notes:

A stunning report is indicating that the Obama administration imported foreign terrorists to the U.S. in preparation for the ANTIFA/Black Lives Matter uprising that is currently laying waste to America’s cities.

Ukraine-based independent journalist George Eliason published the bombshell report on Tuesday alleging that the foreign terrorists were brought overseas due to the scheming of former President Barack H. Obama and CIA Director John Brennan.

“It is an American problem caused by the former Obama-Biden administration’s continuing coup against the Presidency of Donald Trump,” Elliason writes of the ANTIFA/BLM terror uprising.

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No wonder they are against Trump. He is destroying their backbone. When this comes out, somebody needs to take Obama and Biden to court for treason... and execution.


Antifa was imported to America from Europe by the Obama-Biden administration to forge domestic terrorism alliance with BLM, new report alleges

When they will learn that they were lied to by the MSM and that another fraud of those traitors (biden/obama etc) has been exposed, I guess Antifa will be activated again !