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March 25, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
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Just got some very good news! Please stand by

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Hello and thank you for your input. I will be taking you up on your offer of help in whatever way I can.

Hi
please take this as constructive criticism and I am willing to help. I fell you motives and ideals are sound just the delivery mechanism is flawed
I think that having a way to offset carbon credits for mining coins is a great idea.
Although your tree project is ok I am concerned:
a. Is not acceptable as it is a secret location. It need to be audited and full disclosure.
b. Who gets the carbon income or offsets from planting the tree? The owner of the land?


After directing them to this thread yesterday I have just got off the phone with the family, who after some deliberation are happy to disclose the location of the land! This means we will be able to be fully transparent at every stage of the process! The locations will be fully disclosed shortly and updated across our websites. The locations in the UK and the much larger one in Wyoming are to be revealed. There is a University nearby who have written reports on the feasibility of planting trees on the Wyoming site which will also be shared.

Your comment about who gets the carbon offset from the planting of the tree raised some interesting questions which I have sought to answer. One tonne of CO2 (which coincidentally seems to be the industry standard amount of offset from the planting of one tree) is priced anywhere between £10 and £16. The industry is full of scams and a huge number of people have been taken in to date (please feel free to correct any of this information). One thing which is universally the case is that only a small fraction (one estimate as low as 28%) of the actual money raised in the "channel" actually gets spent directly on offsetting, with a massive amount going to brokers, administration and other noise. One of the best things about cryptocurrencies to my mind is that it removes the need for these middlemen.

We are able to provide offset as a service for under half of the lower cost threshold stated above, and this is the price I featured in the opening thread, (albeit I converted it to cryptocurrency). We are accepting donations in Carboncoin at lower than the market value because we wish to stimulate the use of it, we will not be selling this to the market immediately but rather waiting for the true value to be established, in turn perhaps enabling us to do far more.

We will not be claiming any offset from government schemes as this would be classed as double-counting and because we wish to help the environment we have no interest in this.

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You need to get professional ie Have a carbon offset scheme available to all coins, brokers, pools (option for the minor)

We are currently working on a site to automatically update the carbon footprint of each cryptocurrency (calculated with sensible assumptions direct from the blockchain) with a percentage of that carbon footprint that they have offset through us, to be launched soon.

We will be taking a 1 tonne for 1 tree approach, but maintaining carboncoin as a currency rather than a credit. Credits will be measured in trees (tonnes) purchased.

I propose a traffic light scheme for all cryptocurrencies, whereby they go amber at 50% offset and appropriately green at 100% offset.

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The income from this should go to either or
1. A credible public audited scheme, there are many

Please see details above and understand the requirement to dispense with middlemen.

The scheme we are running is to be fully publically audited. I have spoken to the Forestry Commission in the UK this morning to touch base with them regarding ensuring that trees are planted in as sustainable and environmentally friendly a way as is feasible.

I am also starting the discourse about using them to audit the first and subsequent sites in the UK to show number of trees planted and certify they have been done correctly.

A note on the crypto fundraising: I invite anyone to look up the Wallet addresses stated above on a regular basis. Any outgoing transactions shall be individually justified in a separate page of the carboncoinforest website.

Additionally all possible cares are taken to ensure survival of saplings as well and this is included in our sapling cost.


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2. Use a scheme where you get a bigger bang for the buck. IE if I did it in Asia where i live I could get 10 tree planted for every one you do for the same cost

We could be interested in this further down the line but also do not feel comfortable planting unless I have a direct relationship with the landowners to ensure that the forests be appropriately looked after and maintained.

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3. Use the money to support organisations that prevent rain forest destruction, IE buy them out.

This, sadly, strikes me as too high risk. We would be sitting ducks essentially biding our time until a goverment got taken over and the land was nationalised. If the locals have found a reason to be permitting this to happen it is going to take more than throwing money at the land to stop it, I fear.

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4. The best scheme of all is to sponsor small solar lights for third world nations. They will stop burning fossil fuel for lighting.
It will also save lives and help people stop being slaves to big oil.
Here are some statistics.
a. !.6 billion people do not have electrical lighting
b. 70 billion liters of Kerosene get burned every year for lighting
c. 1.5 million deaths are attributable to this lighting and many are children under 5 years old
d. up to 30% of these people income is spent on lighting.
So you stop the burning of fossil fuels, save lives and and help these families to a better life. I can refer you to many of these organisations that are UN approved.

Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Revolution Green

This is a very good idea indeed, but it feels a little more humanitarian than ecological. I would want to understand the carbon footprint and resource use of the raw material production, manufacturing processes and distribution mechanism of the devices, for it to be applicable to direct carbon offset.

I have my work cut out for me offsetting the carbon footprint of the entire cryptocurrency industry but once that is done I would without any hesitation put it to vote to devote funds to that cause.

I look forward to your feedback.

Best,

AM


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March 25, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
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Thank you for switching to intelligent arguments instead of getting all defensive and crying FUD.  My whole thing about permanent forestry is that just because a forest is still there doesn't mean the carbon has been locked anywhere.  Carbon offsetting by planting more trees is quickly becoming a thing of the past, and many tree planting operations have failed horribly as there is 0 guarantee that the trees will remain sustainable.  I still disagree with the project and I think that it needs major over site of a proven tree planting organization or will likely fail.  Sorry for not having faith in your project as I don't know any of your reputation or skills in this area.  I think it is definitely a project for many smart scientists who study this sort of thing from many different angels and would like to see a university or something else involved in the project.  Many groups with good intentions have tried similar planting projects that have failed horribly.  I would love to be proven wrong and wish you the best of luck.

On a long term basis I am going to be looking into the ideal criteria for creating sustainable wild ecosystems which cause carbon sinks and looking to stimulate them artificially. I will be actively seeking any information I can get from the academic community to this end and, if fundraising is to be successful, perhaps look to sponsoring a PhD in the absence of sufficient information in the current state of the art. In the meantime we are going to plant a lot of trees, and this is going to help the planet. We have a proven tree planting organisation - the family have been managing their forestry for generations. We have some academic take up from the institution in Wyoming and this will be shared here soon as said previously. Thank you for the luck, I have everything crossed!

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March 25, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
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First true "green" coin i've seen so far! might as well mine some coins to send! Smiley

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March 25, 2014, 02:03:23 PM
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Only orphaned coins today on the official pool.  Looks like hash-rapid has too much hashpower.
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March 25, 2014, 02:49:21 PM
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Only orphaned coins today on the official pool.  Looks like hash-rapid has too much hashpower.

There are like 5 people on that pool each individually with >5% of the network. Why are they not mining solo? Completely beggars belief.

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March 25, 2014, 03:01:42 PM
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First true "green" coin i've seen so far! might as well mine some coins to send! Smiley

Please don't mine on the hashrapid pool they have been over half the network pretty much since the beginning and have done nothing to stop it.

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March 25, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
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Thanks you
I am really impressed with your answers and appreciate the time you took to wrote them.
I agree with your plan of taking small steps
Kind Regards
Mark

Hello and thank you for your input. I will be taking you up on your offer of help in whatever way I can.

Hi
please take this as constructive criticism and I am willing to help. I fell you motives and ideals are sound just the delivery mechanism is flawed
I think that having a way to offset carbon credits for mining coins is a great idea.
Although your tree project is ok I am concerned:
a. Is not acceptable as it is a secret location. It need to be audited and full disclosure.
b. Who gets the carbon income or offsets from planting the tree? The owner of the land?


After directing them to this thread yesterday I have just got off the phone with the family, who after some deliberation are happy to disclose the location of the land! This means we will be able to be fully transparent at every stage of the process! The locations will be fully disclosed shortly and updated across our websites. The locations in the UK and the much larger one in Wyoming are to be revealed. There is a University nearby who have written reports on the feasibility of planting trees on the Wyoming site which will also be shared.

Your comment about who gets the carbon offset from the planting of the tree raised some interesting questions which I have sought to answer. One tonne of CO2 (which coincidentally seems to be the industry standard amount of offset from the planting of one tree) is priced anywhere between £10 and £16. The industry is full of scams and a huge number of people have been taken in to date (please feel free to correct any of this information). One thing which is universally the case is that only a small fraction (one estimate as low as 28%) of the actual money raised in the "channel" actually gets spent directly on offsetting, with a massive amount going to brokers, administration and other noise. One of the best things about cryptocurrencies to my mind is that it removes the need for these middlemen.

We are able to provide offset as a service for under half of the lower cost threshold stated above, and this is the price I featured in the opening thread, (albeit I converted it to cryptocurrency). We are accepting donations in Carboncoin at lower than the market value because we wish to stimulate the use of it, we will not be selling this to the market immediately but rather waiting for the true value to be established, in turn perhaps enabling us to do far more.

We will not be claiming any offset from government schemes as this would be classed as double-counting and because we wish to help the environment we have no interest in this.

Quote
You need to get professional ie Have a carbon offset scheme available to all coins, brokers, pools (option for the minor)

We are currently working on a site to automatically update the carbon footprint of each cryptocurrency (calculated with sensible assumptions direct from the blockchain) with a percentage of that carbon footprint that they have offset through us, to be launched at coinfootprint.com.

We will be taking a 1 tonne for 1 tree approach, but maintaining carboncoin as a currency rather than a credit. Credits will be measured in trees (tonnes) purchased.

I propose a traffic light scheme for all cryptocurrencies, whereby they go amber at 50% offset and appropriately green at 100% offset.

Quote
The income from this should go to either or
1. A credible public audited scheme, there are many

Please see details above and understand the requirement to dispense with middlemen.

The scheme we are running is to be fully publically audited. I have spoken to the Forestry Commission in the UK this morning to touch base with them regarding ensuring that trees are planted in as sustainable and environmentally friendly a way as is feasible.

I am also starting the discourse about using them to audit the first and subsequent sites in the UK to show number of trees planted and certify they have been done correctly.

A note on the crypto fundraising: I invite anyone to look up the Wallet addresses stated above on a regular basis. Any outgoing transactions shall be individually justified in a separate page of the carboncoinforest website.

Additionally all possible cares are taken to ensure survival of saplings as well and this is included in our sapling cost.


Quote
2. Use a scheme where you get a bigger bang for the buck. IE if I did it in Asia where i live I could get 10 tree planted for every one you do for the same cost

We could be interested in this further down the line but also do not feel comfortable planting unless I have a direct relationship with the landowners to ensure that the forests be appropriately looked after and maintained.

Quote
3. Use the money to support organisations that prevent rain forest destruction, IE buy them out.

This, sadly, strikes me as too high risk. We would be sitting ducks essentially biding our time until a goverment got taken over and the land was nationalised. If the locals have found a reason to be permitting this to happen it is going to take more than throwing money at the land to stop it, I fear.

Quote
4. The best scheme of all is to sponsor small solar lights for third world nations. They will stop burning fossil fuel for lighting.
It will also save lives and help people stop being slaves to big oil.
Here are some statistics.
a. !.6 billion people do not have electrical lighting
b. 70 billion liters of Kerosene get burned every year for lighting
c. 1.5 million deaths are attributable to this lighting and many are children under 5 years old
d. up to 30% of these people income is spent on lighting.
So you stop the burning of fossil fuels, save lives and and help these families to a better life. I can refer you to many of these organisations that are UN approved.

Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Revolution Green

This is a very good idea indeed, but it feels a little more humanitarian than ecological. I would want to understand the carbon footprint and resource use of the raw material production, manufacturing processes and distribution mechanism of the devices, for it to be applicable to direct carbon offset.

I have my work cut out for me offsetting the carbon footprint of the entire cryptocurrency industry but once that is done I would without any hesitation put it to vote to devote funds to that cause.

I look forward to your feedback.

Best,

AM


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March 25, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
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Hello and thank you for your input. I will be taking you up on your offer of help in whatever way I can.

Hi
please take this as constructive criticism and I am willing to help. I fell you motives and ideals are sound just the delivery mechanism is flawed
I think that having a way to offset carbon credits for mining coins is a great idea.
Although your tree project is ok I am concerned:
a. Is not acceptable as it is a secret location. It need to be audited and full disclosure.
b. Who gets the carbon income or offsets from planting the tree? The owner of the land?


After directing them to this thread yesterday I have just got off the phone with the family, who after some deliberation are happy to disclose the location of the land! This means we will be able to be fully transparent at every stage of the process! The locations will be fully disclosed shortly and updated across our websites. The locations in the UK and the much larger one in Wyoming are to be revealed. There is a University nearby who have written reports on the feasibility of planting trees on the Wyoming site which will also be shared.

Your comment about who gets the carbon offset from the planting of the tree raised some interesting questions which I have sought to answer. One tonne of CO2 (which coincidentally seems to be the industry standard amount of offset from the planting of one tree) is priced anywhere between £10 and £16. The industry is full of scams and a huge number of people have been taken in to date (please feel free to correct any of this information). One thing which is universally the case is that only a small fraction (one estimate as low as 28%) of the actual money raised in the "channel" actually gets spent directly on offsetting, with a massive amount going to brokers, administration and other noise. One of the best things about cryptocurrencies to my mind is that it removes the need for these middlemen.

We are able to provide offset as a service for under half of the lower cost threshold stated above, and this is the price I featured in the opening thread, (albeit I converted it to cryptocurrency). We are accepting donations in Carboncoin at lower than the market value because we wish to stimulate the use of it, we will not be selling this to the market immediately but rather waiting for the true value to be established, in turn perhaps enabling us to do far more.

We will not be claiming any offset from government schemes as this would be classed as double-counting and because we wish to help the environment we have no interest in this.

Quote
You need to get professional ie Have a carbon offset scheme available to all coins, brokers, pools (option for the minor)

We are currently working on a site to automatically update the carbon footprint of each cryptocurrency (calculated with sensible assumptions direct from the blockchain) with a percentage of that carbon footprint that they have offset through us, to be launched at coinfootprint.com.

We will be taking a 1 tonne for 1 tree approach, but maintaining carboncoin as a currency rather than a credit. Credits will be measured in trees (tonnes) purchased.

I propose a traffic light scheme for all cryptocurrencies, whereby they go amber at 50% offset and appropriately green at 100% offset.

Quote
The income from this should go to either or
1. A credible public audited scheme, there are many

Please see details above and understand the requirement to dispense with middlemen.

The scheme we are running is to be fully publically audited. I have spoken to the Forestry Commission in the UK this morning to touch base with them regarding ensuring that trees are planted in as sustainable and environmentally friendly a way as is feasible.

I am also starting the discourse about using them to audit the first and subsequent sites in the UK to show number of trees planted and certify they have been done correctly.

A note on the crypto fundraising: I invite anyone to look up the Wallet addresses stated above on a regular basis. Any outgoing transactions shall be individually justified in a separate page of the carboncoinforest website.

Additionally all possible cares are taken to ensure survival of saplings as well and this is included in our sapling cost.


Quote
2. Use a scheme where you get a bigger bang for the buck. IE if I did it in Asia where i live I could get 10 tree planted for every one you do for the same cost

We could be interested in this further down the line but also do not feel comfortable planting unless I have a direct relationship with the landowners to ensure that the forests be appropriately looked after and maintained.

Quote
3. Use the money to support organisations that prevent rain forest destruction, IE buy them out.

This, sadly, strikes me as too high risk. We would be sitting ducks essentially biding our time until a goverment got taken over and the land was nationalised. If the locals have found a reason to be permitting this to happen it is going to take more than throwing money at the land to stop it, I fear.

Quote
4. The best scheme of all is to sponsor small solar lights for third world nations. They will stop burning fossil fuel for lighting.
It will also save lives and help people stop being slaves to big oil.
Here are some statistics.
a. !.6 billion people do not have electrical lighting
b. 70 billion liters of Kerosene get burned every year for lighting
c. 1.5 million deaths are attributable to this lighting and many are children under 5 years old
d. up to 30% of these people income is spent on lighting.
So you stop the burning of fossil fuels, save lives and and help these families to a better life. I can refer you to many of these organisations that are UN approved.

Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Revolution Green

This is a very good idea indeed, but it feels a little more humanitarian than ecological. I would want to understand the carbon footprint and resource use of the raw material production, manufacturing processes and distribution mechanism of the devices, for it to be applicable to direct carbon offset.

I have my work cut out for me offsetting the carbon footprint of the entire cryptocurrency industry but once that is done I would without any hesitation put it to vote to devote funds to that cause.

I look forward to your feedback.

Best,

AM



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March 25, 2014, 04:50:51 PM
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Hello and thank you for your input. I will be taking you up on your offer of help in whatever way I can.

Hi
please take this as constructive criticism and I am willing to help. I fell you motives and ideals are sound just the delivery mechanism is flawed
I think that having a way to offset carbon credits for mining coins is a great idea.
Although your tree project is ok I am concerned:
a. Is not acceptable as it is a secret location. It need to be audited and full disclosure.
b. Who gets the carbon income or offsets from planting the tree? The owner of the land?


After directing them to this thread yesterday I have just got off the phone with the family, who after some deliberation are happy to disclose the location of the land! This means we will be able to be fully transparent at every stage of the process! The locations will be fully disclosed shortly and updated across our websites. The locations in the UK and the much larger one in Wyoming are to be revealed. There is a University nearby who have written reports on the feasibility of planting trees on the Wyoming site which will also be shared.

Your comment about who gets the carbon offset from the planting of the tree raised some interesting questions which I have sought to answer. One tonne of CO2 (which coincidentally seems to be the industry standard amount of offset from the planting of one tree) is priced anywhere between £10 and £16. The industry is full of scams and a huge number of people have been taken in to date (please feel free to correct any of this information). One thing which is universally the case is that only a small fraction (one estimate as low as 28%) of the actual money raised in the "channel" actually gets spent directly on offsetting, with a massive amount going to brokers, administration and other noise. One of the best things about cryptocurrencies to my mind is that it removes the need for these middlemen.

We are able to provide offset as a service for under half of the lower cost threshold stated above, and this is the price I featured in the opening thread, (albeit I converted it to cryptocurrency). We are accepting donations in Carboncoin at lower than the market value because we wish to stimulate the use of it, we will not be selling this to the market immediately but rather waiting for the true value to be established, in turn perhaps enabling us to do far more.

We will not be claiming any offset from government schemes as this would be classed as double-counting and because we wish to help the environment we have no interest in this.

Quote
You need to get professional ie Have a carbon offset scheme available to all coins, brokers, pools (option for the minor)

We are currently working on a site to automatically update the carbon footprint of each cryptocurrency (calculated with sensible assumptions direct from the blockchain) with a percentage of that carbon footprint that they have offset through us, to be launched at coinfootprint.com.

We will be taking a 1 tonne for 1 tree approach, but maintaining carboncoin as a currency rather than a credit. Credits will be measured in trees (tonnes) purchased.

I propose a traffic light scheme for all cryptocurrencies, whereby they go amber at 50% offset and appropriately green at 100% offset.

Quote
The income from this should go to either or
1. A credible public audited scheme, there are many

Please see details above and understand the requirement to dispense with middlemen.

The scheme we are running is to be fully publically audited. I have spoken to the Forestry Commission in the UK this morning to touch base with them regarding ensuring that trees are planted in as sustainable and environmentally friendly a way as is feasible.

I am also starting the discourse about using them to audit the first and subsequent sites in the UK to show number of trees planted and certify they have been done correctly.

A note on the crypto fundraising: I invite anyone to look up the Wallet addresses stated above on a regular basis. Any outgoing transactions shall be individually justified in a separate page of the carboncoinforest website.

Additionally all possible cares are taken to ensure survival of saplings as well and this is included in our sapling cost.


Quote
2. Use a scheme where you get a bigger bang for the buck. IE if I did it in Asia where i live I could get 10 tree planted for every one you do for the same cost

We could be interested in this further down the line but also do not feel comfortable planting unless I have a direct relationship with the landowners to ensure that the forests be appropriately looked after and maintained.

Quote
3. Use the money to support organisations that prevent rain forest destruction, IE buy them out.

This, sadly, strikes me as too high risk. We would be sitting ducks essentially biding our time until a goverment got taken over and the land was nationalised. If the locals have found a reason to be permitting this to happen it is going to take more than throwing money at the land to stop it, I fear.

Quote
4. The best scheme of all is to sponsor small solar lights for third world nations. They will stop burning fossil fuel for lighting.
It will also save lives and help people stop being slaves to big oil.
Here are some statistics.
a. !.6 billion people do not have electrical lighting
b. 70 billion liters of Kerosene get burned every year for lighting
c. 1.5 million deaths are attributable to this lighting and many are children under 5 years old
d. up to 30% of these people income is spent on lighting.
So you stop the burning of fossil fuels, save lives and and help these families to a better life. I can refer you to many of these organisations that are UN approved.

Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Revolution Green

This is a very good idea indeed, but it feels a little more humanitarian than ecological. I would want to understand the carbon footprint and resource use of the raw material production, manufacturing processes and distribution mechanism of the devices, for it to be applicable to direct carbon offset.

I have my work cut out for me offsetting the carbon footprint of the entire cryptocurrency industry but once that is done I would without any hesitation put it to vote to devote funds to that cause.

I look forward to your feedback.

Best,

AM



Excellent news! With issues such as this transparency is a must.

This coin is really turning into something i have confidence in. Refreshing to see someone actually trying to solve the environmental issues that are inherent with digital currencies.

Keep up the good work!
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March 25, 2014, 05:07:25 PM
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Excellent work AM!

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Thank you all. If anyone can focus on hunting down and engaging the hashrapid pool admin to get them to stop screwing our blockchain that would be really useful. I have had to do that all afternoon when I could have been doing many more useful things. The line is he needs to up his fees sharply until the network is balanced, and heck maybe even donate some to to the cause?

I need to concentrate on updating all of the sites with new information so that we can then go after some proper publicity.

Here are the addresses of the two sites:

Lomer Farm, Warnford, Hampshire. (This is where the first saplings have been planted, where the photos were taken)

and

Sand Creek Ranch, Laramie, Wyoming.

I have screenshots from google earth which I will put here when they are uploaded onto the websites in a little.





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March 25, 2014, 09:09:41 PM
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Excellent work.. Smiley just finished reading last page and what a turnaround... Smiley

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March 25, 2014, 09:37:29 PM
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How come this coin hasn't got more attention yet?

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March 25, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
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When it hits a big exchange it will
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March 26, 2014, 12:48:24 PM
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More good news this morning - have finally managed to get in touch with the hashrapid pool admin. Have sent him several messages suggesting possible steps he can take to help even the mining power out between the pools. I also asked the BCT admin to redirect the old thread to here, and we have also done a lot of work on SEO of our sites over the past few days. Hopefully this should all mean we dont have to deal with network issues for much longer.

Here is the *link to the* google earth image of Lomer Farm in Hampshire, although it has not updated to show the saplings yet!

http://carbon-co.in/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Hampshire-location.jpg

So we can now start to raise funds for the remaining 12,000 trees on this site. We have until end of July to order the saplings!

Wyoming site to follow.

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March 26, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
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When it hits a big exchange it will

Does anyone fancy spearheading some exchange campaigns? I am going to look into providing a site putting buyers and sellers in contact with one another. Anyone doing that can pm anything needing to go on twitter

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March 26, 2014, 04:26:53 PM
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Cryptorush is starting to look like a real risky place 2 go!!!! Carboncoin needs a new good home!!

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March 26, 2014, 04:37:40 PM
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why is cryptorush starting to look dodgy?
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