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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 04, 2021, 01:10:32 PM
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You probably missed the rumor that he said about core Man City players not playing on the Manchester derby. I would also favor United if that turned out to be true. No team is that good if they are missing some key pieces.
I also haven't heard if any City players will miss the derby, but if what is meant is de bruyne and Gundogan maybe it can happen, because in the last few games they have not fully returned to their best form and of course guardiola will not take the risk to Playing these two players in such a big game, I think if Manchester United want to win that game, they have to be able to show a pretty solid defense later, because manchester city has a very dangerous attack line.
Without the duo of  Kevin bruyne and Gundogan playing against Man Utd, City has over quality players capable of beating Man Utd, of course its not going to be an easy game being a derby match it going be very tough match for both team, even with the recent lacklustre performance of Man Utd in their previous match wouldn't deter them from not putting up a good performance against their rival, though with head to head record Man Utd has an edge over City however I don't think that would be enough to defeat a star-studded club like City

If indeed we look at the head to head so far of course the advantage is on the side of manchester united, but it is hard work and also a good appearance that will determine the winner on the field, seeing the condition of manchester united and manchester city right now, to be honest I will not try to bet on the match because indeed the two teams so far are not in good condition, although manchester united managed to win in some of their last matches, but in my opinion they are still inconsistent in their game, as well as manchester city which in my opinion is not better than manchester united now this.

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November 04, 2021, 01:21:16 PM
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About the threat of Ole's position being rumored to be replaced by Conte is just a joke, imo. So, Conte gets a contract or not with Tottenham, I think Ole's position can still be replaced by another coach if United really want to replace him, this proves United still hopes that Ole can give the best for United. Regarding the top four positions, maybe only one place will be contested by other teams because for the top three teams like Chelsea, Liverpool and City it seems certain. But for position 4, I believe it will still be a struggle until the end of the season, considering their gap is not too far like +10 points gap, because the current gap is only 5 points which of course any changes can still occur. Grin
As for Conte's transfer to United, it is difficult to say how real it was, since we are very far from the club's management and cannot know the full range of ideas they are considering.
At the moment, I assess United's results as the worst that can be with such a squad, that is, United cannot fall below (this is optimistic, isn't it?  Cheesy ). Therefore, I suppose that in the future, for one reason or another, United will start to play better and will rather be a competitor to the top three teams than allow someone to seriously compete for the 4th position.
If you realize that too, so far the problem is with the coach and not the squad, right? Grin
So, as long as United is coached by Ole, is that enough for United to be able to compete in the top 4? I don't think that will happen even though their squad is good. Indeed, now it seems like United still have hope of finally getting into the top 4 in the near future, but I'm not sure Ole will be able to keep him until the end of the season. Considering many teams this season who are also in their best form, and of course Ole's position with United is still not completely safe there. Imo

Ole has been the sole problem for United in my eyes. If a coach like Zidane or Conte is given a set of players containing Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho, Pogba, Bruno they would win every possible trophy. Ole is getting his ass saved every time by an in-form Ronaldo. United are heavily dependent on Ronaldo which will hurt them in the longer run.

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November 04, 2021, 01:56:11 PM
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After climbing to even the 6th place, I started following Arsenal's matches closely in the EPL. And they have an interesting match ahead vs Watford home. Watford is a really interesting opponent that they can do very unexpected things anytime. For example, they destroyed Everton by 5-2 away two weeks ago. But they have a really terrible form in general. Arsenal have been having one of their best times lately and they must win to keep this up. And I believe they will do so here.
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November 04, 2021, 02:02:00 PM
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You probably missed the rumor that he said about core Man City players not playing on the Manchester derby. I would also favor United if that turned out to be true. No team is that good if they are missing some key pieces.
I also haven't heard if any City players will miss the derby, but if what is meant is de bruyne and Gundogan maybe it can happen, because in the last few games they have not fully returned to their best form and of course guardiola will not take the risk to Playing these two players in such a big game, I think if Manchester United want to win that game, they have to be able to show a pretty solid defense later, because manchester city has a very dangerous attack line.
Without the duo of  Kevin bruyne and Gundogan playing against Man Utd, City has over quality players capable of beating Man Utd, of course its not going to be an easy game being a derby match it going be very tough match for both team, even with the recent lacklustre performance of Man Utd in their previous match wouldn't deter them from not putting up a good performance against their rival, though with head to head record Man Utd has an edge over City however I don't think that would be enough to defeat a star-studded club like City

I wouldn't take H2H history at least in this match because this season United has been very inconsistent. They lost to comparatively smaller teams so City playing without KDB or Gundogan can also defeat them. I'm not saying that City will win for sure but they seem like have a better probability of winning unless Ronaldo saves United once again in the injury time.

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November 04, 2021, 02:06:12 PM
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Ole has been the sole problem for United in my eyes. If a coach like Zidane or Conte is given a set of players containing Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho, Pogba, Bruno they would win every possible trophy. Ole is getting his ass saved every time by an in-form Ronaldo. United are heavily dependent on Ronaldo which will hurt them in the longer run.
Actually, the current Manchester United squad is a squad with potential to win the championship trophy, especially now that they have Ronaldo who is one of the best goalscoring machines in world football, but in fact now they are actually limping in English premier league standings today, just like you, I also suspect that the lack of strategy that Ole has is one of the reasons why manchester united now often achieves negative results, whether manchester united will win the match against manchester city or not, but I think the management Manchester United have to fire Ole if they want Manchester United to be a title contender again.

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November 04, 2021, 02:13:18 PM
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^  Lol yup.  We could see another possible trashing of Man United again after Liverpool.  Possibly 1 - 3, 1 - 4 or even 1 - 5??  I know City doesn’t have a straight up striker but Pep has been creative in putting up a guy to play the role.  And United is gonna be without Varane and possibly without Lindelof. 

City win and BTTS combo at 2.95 looks decent.

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November 04, 2021, 02:20:05 PM
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Thank you, without been biased here, this is all I want no doubts about it.
I just want Ole Gunner Solskjaer to be handed the sack letter, the fans are really mad at him.
Lossing at home to Liverpool, repeating such a result will be bad news for him, so I feel he will sit up...and Ole Gunner Solskjaer tactics works very well against Pep Guardiola,I hope for the best for Manchester United but I just don't want ole Gunner Solskjaer anymore as the Coach,but what can I do ?

Manchester united fans do not have to be afraid, you guys have Ronaldo. With him on the team, there is always hope of getting something from the game. If not points then goals for sure. I do not think Manchester united would be losing to Manchester City. Manchester City are very unstable in the premier league this season and I would not be surprised seeing a draw in this game.

Besides it favours us rival fans having Ole in charge, with him managing Manchester United, there no threat of them winning the premier league. Best they can do is secure slots for champion league games by finishing too 4.

Thinking positively about Manchester United who are lucky to have Ronaldo spear is a good thing for us to consider. Because we see the hard work of Manchester United players to get up, we need to appreciate it. Maybe Ole is not the right coach, but expecting to be replaced is very difficult. So this fact must be accepted with a heavy heart.

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The top 4 major league clubs will play with tough opponents against each other while Chelsea will continue to advance easily to add points and Burnley are just a low class who can easily win for Chelsea at home, especially Arsenal also the same against Watford and this should be could be a point for The Gunner too.

While Man United vs Mancity will be a fierce one after fans can't wait to see it so far Man United has indeed improved in its strategy.
Will pit Ole and Pep's tactics.

WestHam vs Liverpool although this will dominate Liverpool win but Liverpool still have to put up a fight against Westham, who is currently strong, should not be underestimated and they will continue to play consistently with their home.

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Everyone is talking about the Manchester derby in two days and I'll also be sharing my opinions about this match. Because this seems to me as the most important and attention getting match of the week. I would like to see a much better Manchester United in this match but I'm not sure of it. They are not good with Ole now. But I also wouldn't like to say that the main problem is the manager. Because we all have witnessed how great Arsenal have recovered still having Arteta. This can be a "stay or go" match for Ole. I hope to see them not losing this one.

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November 04, 2021, 03:07:25 PM
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Everyone is talking about the Manchester derby in two days and I'll also be sharing my opinions about this match. Because this seems to me as the most important and attention getting match of the week. I would like to see a much better Manchester United in this match but I'm not sure of it. They are not good with Ole now. But I also wouldn't like to say that the main problem is the manager. Because we all have witnessed how great Arsenal have recovered still having Arteta. This can be a "stay or go" match for Ole. I hope to see them not losing this one.
Manchester derby has triggered lots of reaction and Ole has a lot to put in to secure his place in old Trafford but we all know Guadiola isn't an easy coach to contend with. This would be a replay of united experience with Liverpool if much work isn't put in place. Manchester united needs to win this at all cost but it wouldn't be an  easy game afterall. Hope Ronaldo wouldn't be excessively stressed by the way
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The top 4 major league clubs will play with tough opponents against each other while Chelsea will continue to advance easily to add points and Burnley are just a low class who can easily win for Chelsea at home, especially Arsenal also the same against Watford and this should be could be a point for The Gunner too.

While Man United vs Mancity will be a fierce one after fans can't wait to see it so far Man United has indeed improved in its strategy.
Will pit Ole and Pep's tactics.

WestHam vs Liverpool although this will dominate Liverpool win but Liverpool still have to put up a fight against Westham, who is currently strong, should not be underestimated and they will continue to play consistently with their home.
I'm sure the Manchester derby will be of more interest this week. Chelsea and Arsenal should have won easily. but Man United is experiencing serious problems in the internal team. Ole has not found a playing strategy that matches the players on the team. the game against City should be proof for Ole. I hope United plays well from the start.
if they are careless early in the game and City gets a goal early in the game. this could be bad for Man United. maybe the game with Liverpool will be a recurring nightmare.



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As for Conte's transfer to United, it is difficult to say how real it was, since we are very far from the club's management and cannot know the full range of ideas they are considering.
At the moment, I assess United's results as the worst that can be with such a squad, that is, United cannot fall below (this is optimistic, isn't it?  Cheesy ). Therefore, I suppose that in the future, for one reason or another, United will start to play better and will rather be a competitor to the top three teams than allow someone to seriously compete for the 4th position.
If you realize that too, so far the problem is with the coach and not the squad, right? Grin
So, as long as United is coached by Ole, is that enough for United to be able to compete in the top 4? I don't think that will happen even though their squad is good. Indeed, now it seems like United still have hope of finally getting into the top 4 in the near future, but I'm not sure Ole will be able to keep him until the end of the season. Considering many teams this season who are also in their best form, and of course Ole's position with United is still not completely safe there. Imo

Right. Therefore, I see two options - either Ole will finally be replaced and United will strengthen their game (and hence the results), or (suddenly) Ole's efforts will begin to pay off and United will become stronger even with him. I guess I'm subjective (since I'm rooting for United), but I hope that now there is a certain gap in the results that will be corrected in the near future, and it can be explained by an unpleasant coincidences.

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November 04, 2021, 03:24:25 PM
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Everyone is talking about the Manchester derby in two days and I'll also be sharing my opinions about this match. Because this seems to me as the most important and attention getting match of the week. I would like to see a much better Manchester United in this match but I'm not sure of it. They are not good with Ole now. But I also wouldn't like to say that the main problem is the manager. Because we all have witnessed how great Arsenal have recovered still having Arteta. This can be a "stay or go" match for Ole. I hope to see them not losing this one.

Arteta's wins lately has come as a result of checking he's previous errors and correcting them also playing the right players,when it comes to comparison between Ole Gunner Solskjaer and Mikel Arteta,know this Arteta is better in terms of tactics,learnt very well from Pep Guardiola.
Who did Ole Gunner Solskjaer work with ? Ole Gunner Solskjaer is good when it comes to management of players so as to avoid conflicts in the dressing room and all the rest,no where near good in terms of tactics, doesn't know the right players to put to win him matches.

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I wonder if Ole Solskjaer will get sacked in case Manchester United lose against Manchester City in a huge derby this Saturday. But maybe, the board can decide to give one more chance to him in that case. Anyway, Manchester City is the favourite side in this match I think. Maybe they lost to Crystal Palace but this doesn't show that they are weak. They are still very strong and showed it last night by finishing Club Brugge with a 4-1 result. I don't expect them to lose here.

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November 04, 2021, 03:50:42 PM
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I wonder if Ole Solskjaer will get sacked in case Manchester United lose against Manchester City in a huge derby this Saturday. But maybe, the board can decide to give one more chance to him in that case. Anyway, Manchester City is the favourite side in this match I think. Maybe they lost to Crystal Palace but this doesn't show that they are weak. They are still very strong and showed it last night by finishing Club Brugge with a 4-1 result. I don't expect them to lose here.
He always got second chance and I see last warning for Ole when Manchester United defeat by Liverpool on Old Trafford with bigger score 0-5, but what happen keep safe Ole place on Manchester United until right now although got winning on Tottenham Hotspur last week and draw with Atlanta on champion league. I think keep safety place position for Ole how ever result get by Manchester United loss or draw. But keep waiting how long Ole keep safety place on Manchester United.

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November 04, 2021, 04:54:44 PM
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I wonder if Ole Solskjaer will get sacked in case Manchester United lose against Manchester City in a huge derby this Saturday. But maybe, the board can decide to give one more chance to him in that case. Anyway, Manchester City is the favourite side in this match I think. Maybe they lost to Crystal Palace but this doesn't show that they are weak. They are still very strong and showed it last night by finishing Club Brugge with a 4-1 result. I don't expect them to lose here.

Did not find the news, but if Man United again lose by a big score this will make Ole's position must retreat. Some of Man United's weaknesses tomorrow are losing Varane who is back injured. Although theymatch Man City they are almost similar to Liverpol and I think they are in a position to be ready to play despite a busy schedule. Maybe Man United can lose, if they play the same as against Liverpol. 

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November 04, 2021, 06:11:56 PM
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I would like to see a much better Manchester United in this match but I'm not sure of it. They are not good with Ole now. But I also wouldn't like to say that the main problem is the manager. Because we all have witnessed how great Arsenal have recovered still having Arteta. This can be a "stay or go" match for Ole. I hope to see them not losing this one.

When a team disintegrates, the coach and his crews are to blame; the players, on the other hand, are never to blame because these men can only perform well under good coaching and tactical conditions; if there is no tactical coach, even the best players suffer.

Arteta side is winning games that they should be winning. Even if I don't see anything exceptional now, he deserves all of the credit for sanitizing the squad after so many protests and poor performances early in the season.

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November 04, 2021, 07:11:40 PM
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🗣️ Paul Scholes on United's defensive issues:
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“I don’t know if Harry Maguire is still injured or he's got a hangover from the Euros but he doesn’t look right. He’s not with it at the minute. With a performance like that 2nd half, and no Varane on Saturday, it has to be a worry. City will think they have a good chance of winning." 😬 #MUFC

Finally the man I respect his analysis has spoken. That's exactly what I analysed, with Varane not being on the defence line and Maguire there, it will surely be disastrous for United!. I just believe Ole will have an alternative plan for defence. Maybe to incorporate Eric Bailey in the defence and bench the technically injured Maguire.

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November 04, 2021, 07:23:14 PM
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I wonder if Ole Solskjaer will get sacked in case Manchester United lose against Manchester City in a huge derby this Saturday. But maybe, the board can decide to give one more chance to him in that case. Anyway, Manchester City is the favourite side in this match I think. Maybe they lost to Crystal Palace but this doesn't show that they are weak. They are still very strong and showed it last night by finishing Club Brugge with a 4-1 result. I don't expect them to lose here.

The big win over tottenham may be the reason for delaying Solskjaer dismissal at manchester, but we should have to wait after the manchester united and manchester city match is over, because as we know if it is the last game of 3 opportunities given by the management of manchester united to Solskjaer, and It's possible that Solskjaer future will depend on the outcome of the match, so we'd better wait and see what will be happens.

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November 04, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
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I would like to see a much better Manchester United in this match but I'm not sure of it. They are not good with Ole now. But I also wouldn't like to say that the main problem is the manager. Because we all have witnessed how great Arsenal have recovered still having Arteta. This can be a "stay or go" match for Ole. I hope to see them not losing this one.

When a team disintegrates, the coach and his crews are to blame; the players, on the other hand, are never to blame because these men can only perform well under good coaching and tactical conditions; if there is no tactical coach, even the best players suffer.

Arteta side is winning games that they should be winning. Even if I don't see anything exceptional now, he deserves all of the credit for sanitizing the squad after so many protests and poor performances early in the season.
The coach is the responsibility of the players so this will be very influential because the coaching brought by a coach then the character of the game is entirely the coach who knows and puts in his formation position, therefore the coach is something tactical in good or bad.

Arsenal are just trying to win with an opponent who is a little lower than him so they take advantage of that but if Arsenal are up against a top team then I can doubt it too.
So back to coaching a coach at their respective clubs.

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