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October 03, 2022, 02:57:21 AM
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14 Gol: Erling Haaland (Manchester City)
7 Gol: Harry Kane (Tottenham)
6 Gol: Aleksandar Mitrovic (Fulham)
5 Gol: Roberto Firmino (Liverpool), Gabriel Jesus (Arsenal), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Ivan Toney (Brentford), Leandro Trossard (Brighton)

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Seeing how MU was defeated by MC, I realized that until now there are no MU players who are included in the top 5 top scorers of the EPL. I wonder what happened to cristiano ronaldo, I still remember that he is a "GOAT", he seems to lose motivation and it makes me a little frustrated because I idolized him for a long time. ten hag made the wrong decision, leaving cristiano on the bench is just a stupid strategy!!!

In fact we have to realize that Ronaldo has been beaten by age productivity has dropped drastically and maybe in 3 years he will retire
For now nothing can stop Manchester City in the Premier League and Arsenal are the most obvious competitors yes at least before the middle of the season.
Agree with you that he's been beaten by age and that has to be accepted by him and by his fans it's impossible to perform as well as he did a few years ago and I don't think he will contribute to yesterday's game, can't always look at his past greatness.
In yesterday's match, although MU lost badly but in the second half they tried to perform better and that they did 3 goals to prove it, but unfortunately they should have appeared braver from the first half, having conceded 4 goals in the first half it was very difficult for them.
An interesting fact that I saw during yesterday's match was how MU fans kept cheering when MU players scored, maybe this is support for the MU squad that just scoring goals against City is already an achievement even though they already know that defeat is what they will experience.

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October 03, 2022, 03:13:00 AM
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An interesting fact that I saw during yesterday's match was how MU fans kept cheering when MU players scored, maybe this is support for the MU squad that just scoring goals against City is already an achievement even though they already know that defeat is what they will experience.
despite the defeat, United has shown a pretty good response in the second half. they didn't just fall apart and slumped when they trailed by quite a few goals in the first half.
put aside the defeat suffered by United. Of course, all of his fans are enjoying United's current development. they have been entertained with 9 goals created in that match.
We have to salute the fans who never tire of supporting their team, even when the defeat is so obvious.


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October 03, 2022, 03:18:31 AM
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In fact we have to realize that Ronaldo has been beaten by age productivity has dropped drastically and maybe in 3 years he will retire
Ronaldo's productivity has decreased so sharply this season, some say because Erik Ten Hak did not provide more playing time, but if you look further the opportunities provided by Ronaldo also have no impact on Manchester United, even though he played from the bench.
To maintain the good name of a Ronaldo, what was done by Erik Ten Hag is very appropriate, because if Ronaldo is played in the early minutes, but his contribution is not visible and does not have an impact like last season, then people will assume Ronaldo's career is over.

For now nothing can stop Manchester City in the Premier League and Arsenal are the most obvious competitors yes at least before the middle of the season.
The strength possessed by Manchester City is absolutely perfect, they have players who are equal to each other, so they are able to play consistently in the English league until now. And I'm also not so sure, that Asenal can break the positive trend of Manchester City going forward

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October 03, 2022, 03:36:18 AM
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I understand why Erik ten Hag didn't prefer Ronaldo in the starting eleven. It was because of Rashford's recent form as he made a great impression in the Arsenal game as well. But I really don't get why he insists on not choosing Casemiro for the midfield at the beginning. He entered the game in the 60th minute this time.
He does not prioritize Ronaldo in the squad but Ronaldo is responsible for hks decreasing performance too. He would have played better if he had not try to leave in summer. He was not joined pre-season training and worse his mind was not ready for the new season. When he realized that he has to stay in Manchester United, it is just too late to get back training and get his body ready.

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Manchester United are paying so much money for his salary and he has been brought here to strengthen the midfield. But Erik ten Hag doesn't look like he is willing to give him bigger chances. If he continues to do this then this transfer will be a waste of money.
His too high salary is main barrier why other clubs rejected to take him.  Ronaldo will not sign a new contract with Manchester United as we all see that they are still in bad organization as well as bad results. It is not convincible enough to ask Ronaldo continues with them.

From Manchester United and Ten Hag sides, I also don't see why they have to keep Ronaldo too. They want another start of another project without Ronaldo but with more younger players.

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October 03, 2022, 03:52:38 AM
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Everyone is talking about the goals scored by some players. Yes, this is one of the things to talk about. But I want to talk about the state of Manchester United. They make Manchester United look like a small team. Who is behind this failure? Was it Ferguson who kept this team at the top? The other team may be stronger than you, but you are Manchester United. Yes, you can be defeated, but you can't be defeated like this. If they continue to be defeated in this way, the greatness of the Manchester United name will disappear. And this is very sad for me.
A big club like Manchester United are not suppose to be thrashed a huge like this but let us be sincere that this statement doesn't stand when you play against Haaland and Manchester city lol. The way Manchester City dominated the game in the first half was very impressive, I expected Martinez will be able to hold Haaland just as some fans were saying yesterday but the case was different, Manchester united were taught a lesson instead.

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October 03, 2022, 04:01:26 AM
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It's not easy to bounce back after lost 4-0 in the first half and this happend to Manchester United although Antony score amazing goal but it cannot help the team to equalized the score and indeed it is predictable Manchester United will lose at Manchester City home ground but i didn't expect they will conceded 6 goals in this match and with the decline performance from Liverpool and Chelsea i will dare to say race title for this season is only between Manchester City and Arsenal

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October 03, 2022, 04:17:46 AM
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According to Erik Ten Hag " Bringing Cristiano Ronaldo in would have have been so embarrassing especially to his big career" don't you also think so ? I don't think because Marcus Rashford was fit or shit Nah!

Erik Ten Hag stood by the same tactics that has won him the previous game's,but most of them never had a derby match like this before so I see the reason why they flopped, tactics from Erik Ten Hag also, the game showed Manchester City's attacking power, Manchester United don't really play same, if you have read or listened to Wayne Rooney, you'll hear him say absorb pressure at all cost and hit them with counter attack's.

Erikson or Bruno Fernandez should have been benched, cause the defending and ball recovery was too much for Mac Tominay to do alone. A middle trio of Casemiro, Mac Tominay and Fred Bruno Fernandez or Erikson upfront and ten two attacking players would have done the job. I expected the loss anyways, and faluires ? Yes good we ( Manchester United needs them to learn )
Like it or not, Manchester United has a lot to learn from Manchester City. Especially Ten Hag, where Erik Ten Hag was too confident in the inaugural Manchester Derby. Just look at Erik Ten Hag maintaining the composition of the players as they did against Liverpool and Arsenal, but Manchester City is not both because this team has a much more aggressive performance. Pay attention to the midfield that Pep Guardiola's composition is really so easy and free to penetrate Manchester United defense both from the left wing and right wing.

Erik Ten Hag must learn from Ancelotti, where the game that Ancelotti uses to suppress Pep Guardiola's strategy is a reactive football composition, not playing openly in the first half. As a result in the first half Manchester United had to receive 4 goals, we saw in the second half they were able to provide resistance after the entry of Casemiro, Marshall, and Fred who actually made a slight change. Ten Hag should have realized the composition of the second half had to be applied in the first half and maybe the result wouldn't be as bad as this.

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In fact we have to realize that Ronaldo has been beaten by age productivity has dropped drastically and maybe in 3 years he will retire
For now nothing can stop Manchester City in the Premier League and Arsenal are the most obvious competitors yes at least before the middle of the season.

But that doesn't justify him been benched throughout the game. Somehow Manchester united managed to get three goals from that game and with Ronaldo on the pitch, there's every chance you can get a goal or two from him and let say he played and got a goal then the pressure would had been on Manchester city which might result to them playing under pressure and Manchester united would had then taken advantage of that situation to counter play them as they usually do to opponent that seems to outplay them in open play and a perfect example was the arsenal game.

Ronaldo should be used as super sub, there was a reason Manchester city were attacking united every chance they had, it was because they knew there was no one in the Manchester united team that could cause their defense some problem. Back in the days of Sir Alex Ferguson, when Ronaldo was younger, we saw Sir Alex bringing in supper sub of older players later in the game and that's how a manager utilized their older players that has quality in them. Same should be done about Ronaldo instead of disrespecting him always.

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We still have a game between Leicester City vs Nottingham Forest, and the two teams at the bottom of the table will play later.
and Leicester City host Nottingham Forest at the King Power Stadium, and a bad start to the season for Leicester City as they are winless this season, losing six and drawing one of their seven games so far. And also lost 6-2 to Tottenham in their last game.
while Nottingham Forest are above it after Leicester City are bottom of the table, and Nottingham Forest are on a four-game losing streak and haven't won since a 1-0 win over West Ham.
Nottingham Forest is not an easy opponent for Leicester City and also both have poor defense, but victory must be won by Leicester City to move from the bottom of the table.

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It's not easy to bounce back after lost 4-0 in the first half and this happend to Manchester United although Antony score amazing goal but it cannot help the team to equalized the score and indeed it is predictable Manchester United will lose at Manchester City home ground but i didn't expect they will conceded 6 goals in this match and with the decline performance from Liverpool and Chelsea i will dare to say race title for this season is only between Manchester City and Arsenal

Yes, Manchester city and Arsenal are in a good position to win this premier league title because Manchester city have never experience any defeat from any teams since the beginning of this tournament till now, Showed that if they maintain this winning till the end of the tournament, Manchester city will definitely embrace the title again in this season. It was a great celebration in the camp of Manchester city fans for the massive victory they got from Manchester united to prove to their fans that they have what it takes to win this season title and many titles to come, because Haaland is very ready to help the team to achieve more goals.

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Liverpol gets draw against brighton. Brighton is also very strong team at this moment. that proves that if salah is not on fire anymore. The gone of sadio mane has been giving a big change to the club. It seems like that liverpool is not so impressive as when sadio mane was playing for this club. that's very sad to see that liverpool was not able to get full points against brighton this is very disappointed with the team like liverpool. So many great players in the club didn't even enough to bring a win to the team.
It seems like that salah was nothing. Liverpool may fall to the middle of classement.
Again we see Liverpool as if something is lacking, both in terms of sharpness and Moh Salah who does not have a suitable attacking partner. A draw should not have been obtained by Liverpool because this was the umpteenth time Liverpool was stuck and only stagnant in the standings. This sounds a bit disturbing to me Liverpool will face Arsenal next week, with their current form can they really win from Arsenal?
I also think the same as you, for me Liverpool are either very asleep or I really don't know what happens to the players who are slowing down or maybe they all went on a rampage, I think it's very fashionable that the big teams go through very difficult situations and almost at the same time, not only here, in the other leagues also very strong and favorite teams are having a crisis, I don't know if it's the proximity of the World Cup or something similar, but something is happening and they must correct it now.

Regarding the Liverpool-Arsenal game, I think Salah has to wake up, he is the only one who has the spirit to do it and infect his teammates.


In fact we have to realize that Ronaldo has been beaten by age productivity has dropped drastically and maybe in 3 years he will retire
For now nothing can stop Manchester City in the Premier League and Arsenal are the most obvious competitors yes at least before the middle of the season.

But that doesn't justify him been benched throughout the game. Somehow Manchester united managed to get three goals from that game and with Ronaldo on the pitch, there's every chance you can get a goal or two from him and let say he played and got a goal then the pressure would had been on Manchester city which might result to them playing under pressure and Manchester united would had then taken advantage of that situation to counter play them as they usually do to opponent that seems to outplay them in open play and a perfect example was the arsenal game.

Ronaldo should be used as super sub, there was a reason Manchester city were attacking united every chance they had, it was because they knew there was no one in the Manchester united team that could cause their defense some problem. Back in the days of Sir Alex Ferguson, when Ronaldo was younger, we saw Sir Alex bringing in supper sub of older players later in the game and that's how a manager utilized their older players that has quality in them. Same should be done about Ronaldo instead of disrespecting him always.

Well, I am a person who has always followed the trajectory of CR7, but now I would like to know what excuse Ten Hag will give to justify that they have lost by such a wide margin? He is a coach who does not have any kind of track record, however CR7 did, he did not put him in to play knowing that CR7 could have done something, but he was good in a certain part, because if he had put it in they would have blamed him for the 5th or 6th goal , now Ten Hag who is going to blame? what I still don't understand is how the managers of Manchester United still have that technical director? why don't they fire him? I don't like it when someone loses a job, but I think that coach is not good for the team, if I have a star on my team, I put him to play and take advantage of his talent, what Ten Hag does is very childish, and obviously He is angry at CR7, it doesn't matter that CR7 is that age, El Bicho still has a lot to give and they are wasting their talent there.

And in almost all the articles they always say the same thing, and I bring it here so you can see that CR7's face does not reflect what Ten Hag said:

Erik ten Hag explains why Cristiano Ronaldo did not come on for Manchester United vs Man City



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"I wouldn't bring him in because out of respect for Cristiano, for his big career," Ten Hag said. "And the other thing was the advantage I could bring Anthony Martial, he needs the minutes but I don't want to point it out like that."

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-cristiano-ronaldo-sub-25159776

I think that Ten Hag wants to deceive the whole world with his destructive diplomacy, but every footballer knows that this is not the case, we all know that if there is a very good footballer, a star, it is illogical that he is on the bench, then Ten Hag has to tell them to the directors of MU that out of respect for the Man City they cannot win the PL.

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October 03, 2022, 05:31:39 AM
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It's not easy to bounce back after lost 4-0 in the first half and this happend to Manchester United although Antony score amazing goal but it cannot help the team to equalized the score and indeed it is predictable Manchester United will lose at Manchester City home ground but i didn't expect they will conceded 6 goals in this match and with the decline performance from Liverpool and Chelsea i will dare to say race title for this season is only between Manchester City and Arsenal
Honestly conceding six goals by a big club such as Man Utd is absolutely degrading and humiliating, a club that won four matches consecutively, infact Man City could have score more goals if Guordiola did not substitute Kevin DeBryne, Foden, Gündogan and Grealish, Man Utd were overpowered and bullied in every area of the field in midfield McTominay, Christian Eriksen and Bruno Fernandes were clueless with no impact to provide passes to Rashford, Anthony and Sancho in the attack,  in defence Varane, Martinez and Malacia were ineffective enough to stop Foden and Haaland.

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Honestly conceding six goals by a big club such as Man Utd is absolutely degrading and humiliating, a club that won four matches consecutively, infact Man City could have score more goals if Guordiola did not substitute Kevin DeBryne, Foden, Gündogan and Grealish, Man Utd were overpowered and bullied in every area of the field in midfield McTominay, Christian Eriksen and Bruno Fernandes were clueless with no impact to provide passes to Rashford, Anthony and Sancho in the attack,  in defence Varane, Martinez and Malacia were ineffective enough to stop Foden and Haaland.
Manchester united facing humiliation in the Etihad stadium after conceding 6 goals in the manchester derby match. Erik ten hag is so confuse right now and was not able to make good substitution but Anthony Martial was a good sub because immediately he enter, he got a goal and cause a foul in his opponents box which he was awarded a penalty and he stun Ederson. He had two goals and Anthony had just one with a stunning R2 from outside the box. Manchester United played well from the duration of 80th minutes till extra time, however they made punishable mistakes in the first half.

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Honestly conceding six goals by a big club such as Man Utd is absolutely degrading and humiliating, a club that won four matches consecutively, infact Man City could have score more goals if Guordiola did not substitute Kevin DeBryne, Foden, Gündogan and Grealish, Man Utd were overpowered and bullied in every area of the field in midfield McTominay, Christian Eriksen and Bruno Fernandes were clueless with no impact to provide passes to Rashford, Anthony and Sancho in the attack,  in defence Varane, Martinez and Malacia were ineffective enough to stop Foden and Haaland.
Manchester united facing humiliation in the Etihad stadium after conceding 6 goals in the manchester derby match. Erik ten hag is so confuse right now and was not able to make good substitution but Anthony Martial was a good sub because immediately he enter, he got a goal and cause a foul in his opponents box which he was awarded a penalty and he stun Ederson. He had two goals and Anthony had just one with a stunning R2 from outside the box. Manchester United played well from the duration of 80th minutes till extra time, however they made punishable mistakes in the first half.

Manchester United must recognize the might of Manchester City. The nine goals that were created in this match proved Man City's toughness as a champion team. Conceding four goals in the first half was a crushing blow for the Red Devils. And a very striking final score of course tarnished MU's face.

The match also showed United's weakness and the problems of the players. The MU squad seemed to lack fighting power on the field, and even seemed to give up easily. This mentality is considered not good enough. The low work ethic of the players made the coach's tactics unable to work, Erik ten Haag was even more depressed.

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It's not easy to bounce back after lost 4-0 in the first half and this happend to Manchester United although Antony score amazing goal but it cannot help the team to equalized the score and indeed it is predictable Manchester United will lose at Manchester City home ground but i didn't expect they will conceded 6 goals in this match and with the decline performance from Liverpool and Chelsea i will dare to say race title for this season is only between Manchester City and Arsenal
Honestly conceding six goals by a big club such as Man Utd is absolutely degrading and humiliating, a club that won four matches consecutively, infact Man City could have score more goals if Guordiola did not substitute Kevin DeBryne, Foden, Gündogan and Grealish, Man Utd were overpowered and bullied in every area of the field in midfield McTominay, Christian Eriksen and Bruno Fernandes were clueless with no impact to provide passes to Rashford, Anthony and Sancho in the attack,  in defence Varane, Martinez and Malacia were ineffective enough to stop Foden and Haaland.

It is difficult to bounce back when you have already consider upto 4 goals in the first half. The bounce back would have been possible if Manchester city didn't score in the second half. I appreciate Anthony and Martial who gave in goals to tame the situation.
If Martial is fit, I prefer him to Rashford anytime because he helps the club to claim possession even when he is striking. If there was time, he would have led the come back in a big way.

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October 03, 2022, 06:16:56 AM
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Like it or not, Manchester United has a lot to learn from Manchester City. Especially Ten Hag, where Erik Ten Hag was too confident in the inaugural Manchester Derby. Just look at Erik Ten Hag maintaining the composition of the players as they did against Liverpool and Arsenal, but Manchester City is not both because this team has a much more aggressive performance. Pay attention to the midfield that Pep Guardiola's composition is really so easy and free to penetrate Manchester United defense both from the left wing and right wing.

Erik Ten Hag must learn from Ancelotti, where the game that Ancelotti uses to suppress Pep Guardiola's strategy is a reactive football composition, not playing openly in the first half. As a result in the first half Manchester United had to receive 4 goals, we saw in the second half they were able to provide resistance after the entry of Casemiro, Marshall, and Fred who actually made a slight change. Ten Hag should have realized the composition of the second half had to be applied in the first half and maybe the result wouldn't be as bad as this.

This match is an important lesson for Erik Ten Hag going forward. Just imagine, there are many weaknesses that occur, especially in the first round. relying solely on Marcus Rashford, was not enough to match the strength of the home team who were ON FIRE.  as a result, Man City broke into Man United quite easily.
De Gea had made a save, but there was little he could do to prevent City's goals.
Defensively, the Red Devils' form was a complete mess, but the worst thing was, Diogo Dalot, as well as the attacking midfielders.  Bruno Fernandes, played ineffective, both when he had the ball or not.
As a result, their game was not productive, especially in the first half. It is important for Ten Hag, that his squad really has many shortcomings that must be addressed in the future.

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October 03, 2022, 06:31:38 AM
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despite the defeat, United has shown a pretty good response in the second half. they didn't just fall apart and slumped when they trailed by quite a few goals in the first half.
put aside the defeat suffered by United. Of course, all of his fans are enjoying United's current development. they have been entertained with 9 goals created in that match.
We have to salute the fans who never tire of supporting their team, even when the defeat is so obvious.
Even though Manchester United lost. but seeing their game when the second half of the match started did make those of us who watch more excited. And MU fans must feel the same way. because Manchester United even though they are far behind. but they didn't give up. and in the second half they were able to control the game so they could get 3 goals. If only MU's game in the first half could be as good as in the second half then I don't think MU will concede many goals. even draw. or win is also possible. but sadly they got their best performance in the second half instead of since in the first half. but Manchester city is difficult to overcome. the fast attacks they do are truly extraordinary and effective. I think this is what United should learn from Manchester City.

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October 03, 2022, 06:37:29 AM
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Manchester United must recognize the might of Manchester City.  The nine goals that were created in this match proved Man City's toughness as a champion team.  Conceding four goals in the first half was a crushing blow for the Red Devils.  And a very striking final score of course tarnished MU's face.  The match also showed United's weakness and the problems of the players.  The MU squad seemed to lack fighting power on the field, and even seemed to give up easily.  This mentality is considered not good enough.  The low work ethic of the players made the coach's tactics unable to work, Erik ten Haag was even more depressed.
You just pointed out this current Manchester United biggest problem "lack of spirit to fight back" I was just angry seeing players throwing there hands up anytime they concede a goal instead of fighting more for the ball. Sancho as a player was woeful yesterday with Bruno and Rashford they were just strolling on the field piling more pressure on the defence. And for Ten Hag I think he got it wrong by playing just one DM yesterday a McTomminay and Casmiro double pivot yesterday will have helped to disconnect man city's ball play in the midfield. The coach still has a lot to learn but with time he will adapt even Pep didn't had it easy on his first Premier league season

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October 03, 2022, 06:46:17 AM
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I almost forgot there is one more match for week 8 and this between Leicester vs Nottingham Forest and these teams are still fight to avoid relegated zone especially Leicester the fans still hopes they will get their first winning from this match but Nottingham Forest also had same mission because they do not want return to championship division however for this match this indeed quite risky but i would like to pick Leicester win and i wish they can playing well at their home ground and the odds for Leicester is @1.78

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October 03, 2022, 06:46:46 AM
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despite the defeat, United has shown a pretty good response in the second half. they didn't just fall apart and slumped when they trailed by quite a few goals in the first half.
put aside the defeat suffered by United. Of course, all of his fans are enjoying United's current development. they have been entertained with 9 goals created in that match.
We have to salute the fans who never tire of supporting their team, even when the defeat is so obvious.
Even though Manchester United lost. but seeing their game when the second half of the match started did make those of us who watch more excited. And MU fans must feel the same way. because Manchester United even though they are far behind. but they didn't give up. and in the second half they were able to control the game so they could get 3 goals. If only MU's game in the first half could be as good as in the second half then I don't think MU will concede many goals. even draw. or win is also possible. but sadly they got their best performance in the second half instead of since in the first half. but Manchester city is difficult to overcome. the fast attacks they do are truly extraordinary and effective. I think this is what United should learn from Manchester City.
Manchester United's defense was unable to stop Manchester City's attack. Although I had Manchester City ahead in yesterday's game, I did not expect Manchester United to lose like this. But Manchester United's 3 goals in the second half made me very happy.

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