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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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November 27, 2023, 05:21:45 PM
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I would have never expected Havertz to save the team honestly.  Grin  Because he has been quite inadequate in effort since he came here. It has been a long time since he scored his first goal at Arsenal as well. But he really became the savior here by scoring in the 89th minute.

Havertz is a versatile player and Arteta finds lot of use in Havertz. He is not inadequate in my opinion as he tries a lot but hasn't been in able to find himself in scoresheet and others judge the performance based on that which I feel is bit wrong. He really can be useful like he did in last match. He can be a secret weapon in big games for Arsenal. Same goes for Trossard also and Martinelli too. They all can score goals when other players are finding hard to get an opening.
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November 27, 2023, 05:24:23 PM
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Arsenal comes back to top of the table after securing a win over Brentford with 1-0 scoreline. Not a convincing one but at the end the 3 points is what counts eventually. What made it perfect is that draw between Liverpool and City which made both clubs drop the points and gave Arsenal chance to lead the table. Still there are lot of rounds to be played and I hope that Arsenal maintains the consistency from here on and not make further mistakes in easy matches further.

Despite the odds that Arsenal was given, I still picked them to win against Brentford because I am confident that they will defeated Brentford. Manchester City and Liverpool, who should be leading the league. If the game didn't end in a draw, but they ended up draw and shared the points, then I think Arsenal will do everything in their power to win the match and move up to the top of the league. I wasn't sure Arsenal would win the game again after Leandro Trossard's first goal was canceled for var checking, but Kai Havertz's amazing performance scoring in the 89th minute of play made sure Arsenal won the three points. Havertz performed exactly what he was bought to contribute for the team.

I just hope Arsenal can hold onto this position until the end of the season in order to win the Premier League title, since Manchester City and Liverpool have lost to be at the top of the league. At the start of the season, Arsenal was leading the league, but after losing against Newcastle, they have fallen back.
For now I can't really tell if Arsenal can maintain the first position, have almost lost all hope during the Arsenal vs Everton match but lucky Havertz scored. I will give all credit to Rice even if Havertz scored, Rice did an excellent job and I was amaze during the first half.
The performance was so poor I expected more from Arsenal, let's watch out for the next match, then we can decide if they will hold the first position
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November 27, 2023, 05:30:38 PM
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Garnacho is still a building player but I think there is no comparison between him and Cristiano Ronaldo, he would definitely get to be a better player but not to the extent of Cristiano Ronaldo.
Also if Garnacho wants to improve his future I think he should leave Manchester United, in the last decade Manchester United has not raised any good player and I don't think they have the ability to do that.

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November 27, 2023, 05:34:58 PM
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Nothing is impossible, even if the scenario you are thinking of is correct, then Aston Villa could lead the standings this season. But I don't expect that to happen because after all Aston Villa is not better than Liverpool, Manchester City or Arsenal. For next week's matches, Newcastle vs Manchester United and Manchester City vs Tottenham are the two most interesting matches, the rest is fine for all the favorite teams.
Anything can happen, we see Aston Villa continue to rise in position but to lead the table is still very minimal because their battle will be so tight maybe when facing an equal team Aston Villa can win when dealing with the team above it will make it difficult for Unai Emeri's team.

Maybe Aston Villa can enter the top 4 zone into UCL qualification but that's still what we think is still very difficult and cannot determine from now on, while the underdog team is always inconsistent.

It turns out that the coming week has another interesting match. Grin

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November 27, 2023, 05:37:10 PM
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You are completely right, maintaining that top spot is not easy at all, And I personally think that Arsenal are occupying the spot too early, I I would have been celebrating the achievement already but it's just too early, as we can't be very sure that Arsenal will play well enough in other not to lose any points going forward.

But then again, if Manchester city and Liverpool as well keep losing points themselves, then Arsenal have the opportunity of staying in the top possibly till the end of the season.

So what, is it better to come from behind? What's so bad about being at the top? It's not like those at the top will always feel pressure. Teams can look at their own game and try to get 3 points. In the end, 4-5 teams compete, but only one team becomes champion. While their point difference is so small, none of them are under pressure to be at the top, they all have the same pressure. The team that loses points for a week immediately falls behind in the race. None of them want this.
There is a bit of saturation at Manchester City. They have won many championships in a row. I think their main goal is the Champions League cup. If they don't win the Premier League title one season, no one will say anything, as long as they win the CL. I think this is Arsenal's biggest advantage. It's enough for them to stay away from teams other than Manchester City. This time they can take last year's revenge against City at the end of the league.
Well, well, I never said there was anything wrong being at the top bud, re-read my comment and think again.

And besides, you said that teams or clubs at the top don't feel any pressure, and still went ahead to say that no club at the top row will want to lose points for one whole week because such club will drop from the top position, this is very contradicting comment.

Clubs at the top will be under heavy pressure to maintain that spot, for a fact that such club will have to try their possible best to win every match thrown at them, in order to keep maintaining their top position is more than enough pressure already.

Think of it like the WWE where the fighter holding the heavyweight champion have to fight really hard to keep holding the belt, as any defeat from another opponent will make him lose the belt automatically.

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November 27, 2023, 05:38:14 PM
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I just hope Arsenal can hold onto this position until the end of the season in order to win the Premier League title, since Manchester City and Liverpool have lost to be at the top of the league. At the start of the season, Arsenal was leading the league, but after losing against Newcastle, they have fallen back.
It’s yoo early to start thinking of who is going to win the league in my opinion because we are just about to get halfway of the league and the points separating Liverpool Manchester City and Arsenal is just a point difference so it’s still tight to start thinking of how they would win instead let’s just hope they keep fighting their way through just has they did last season and hope they can win it this time around. It is still an open battle and i think these three teams I mentioned are the contenders of this season title.

It’s still a long way to the end of the season so Arsenal need to perform even better than they have performed so far to get to this point, they need to buckle up to maintain this position because Manchester City is a serious contender and they will be waiting for any lapses from Arsenal so they can overtake them.

Arsenal team is ahead of Manchester City and Liverpool by 1 and 2 points respectively. Basically these three teams are fighting for the title. Squads like Tottenham and Manchester United have fallen far behind in the title race. Tottenham are slowly falling behind.
Tottenham is not in the picture anymore, they have fallen far behind and it shows they they lack the appropriate squad depth to challenge for the league. The Injuries and suspensions they suffered affected them significantly and now i think all they can do is fight for the top 4 spot as this season’s battle is between Liverpool, Manchester City and Arsenal.

Whichever team tries to hold on to the top spot in the table, they must have consistency in their performances. If performances are not consistent, it is impossible to occupy the top spot in a competitive place like the Premier League. The Arsenal side fell far behind after losing against Newcastle and sharing points with Chelsea. As City and Liverpool dropped points, Arsenal regained the top spot in the table. Now, if Arsenal can keep up the winning streak, they will remain at the top of the table. However, Arsenal will also lose the top spot in the table if they lose a point in any match.
That’s what Tottenham and Chelsea lack, consistency is the most important factor in the premier league if a team ever wants to be relevant and challenge for the trophy. I believe if Chelsea should be consistent enough they would also be in this title race but sadly thay lack consistency, for team that struggles against smaller teams but is a pain in the neck for stronger teams i think they deserve to be in the bottom half of the table. All eyes are on Arsenal again if they can take this to the end this time. I hope they don’t bottle the lead this time around.

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November 27, 2023, 05:43:59 PM
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Garnacho is still a building player but I think there is no comparison between him and Cristiano Ronaldo, he would definitely get to be a better player but not to the extent of Cristiano Ronaldo.
Also if Garnacho wants to improve his future I think he should leave Manchester United, in the last decade Manchester United has not raised any good player and I don't think they have the ability to do that.

Alejandro Garnacho was in the spotlight this week for his spectacular goal, but it was the only goal he has scored this season in the Premier League in 11 appearances. I would never compare Alejandro Garnacho with Ronaldo, they will never be the same. Alejandro Garnacho could develop more rapidly if he was trained by other coaches such as Arteta, Pep Guadiola, Klopp, Xavi and Ancelotti, but of course he had to leave Manchester United.

I see the potential of this player at the age of 19 years. He should get more opportunities to improve his game, but perhaps Ten Hag will also fail to make it better this season as Garnacho is not his first choice. To be honest, I would like to see him in La Liga with Barcelona or Atletico Madrid, but I think Manchester United will keep him.

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November 27, 2023, 05:46:04 PM
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Actually, nothing has changed much in the top 10 standings this week apart from Arsenal who managed to top the standings and also Spurs who had to be knocked out of the top 4. The two teams that lost last week were Chelsea and Spurs, the rest all won and drew. I feel that the team competition in the EPL will become more exciting every week, especially with the point difference being so small, the results will be very influential.

Moreover, Aston Villa has the opportunity to top the standings if the 3 strong teams above them get bad results. Even though last week just finished, I can't wait for the EPL matches to return this week. It would be very nice for some of these teams to continue to compete, especially for Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool who are only 1 point behind.
Arsenal and Aston Villa are the two performer of the league last week matches while Man Utd position remain unchanged despite their win against Everton though with Tottenham dropping three points, Liverpool and Man City dropping two points respectively mean Man Utd had close their points gap to 2, 4 and 5, of course pushed them for a top 4 contender or even a title contender subject to consistency in winning their subsequent matches, I believe this season title competition would be very competitive looking at how the top teams are performing and with just few points separating them, week in week out there are bound to be different results that would make or mar the position of the leading team, unlike previous seasons where the top team would lead with wide margin points.

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November 27, 2023, 05:47:15 PM
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Actually, nothing has changed much in the top 10 standings this week apart from Arsenal who managed to top the standings and also Spurs who had to be knocked out of the top 4. The two teams that lost last week were Chelsea and Spurs, the rest all won and drew. I feel that the team competition in the EPL will become more exciting every week, especially with the point difference being so small, the results will be very influential.

Moreover, Aston Villa has the opportunity to top the standings if the 3 strong teams above them get bad results. Even though last week just finished, I can't wait for the EPL matches to return this week. It would be very nice for some of these teams to continue to compete, especially for Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool who are only 1 point behind.

Arsenal toping the premier league table is something I find really competitive, their effort is making the league not to look like farmers league, where a particular club dominates the table from January to December. Though we can still give it to Manchester city, because they've shown a good sense of a defending champion. I remember at one point last season, arsenal where topping the league not until they fell down the ladder for Manchester city to climb. I believe this season, arsenal might just pull a surprise, because they have the fire power. As for Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea, they've both been inconsistent with their performance, so I'm not surprised seeing them drop points.

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November 27, 2023, 05:51:21 PM
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Asernal is almost repeating what they did in the last season in the premiere league topping the league table at the early beginning of the league but along the line in the last season,  their missed out and we're overthrow by Manchester City who won the title at the end of the day,  much more is in this season because if you put man city and Asernals performance and compare it,  you will already know that man city is more stronger in team formation compared to Arsenal,  and the reason why Asernal is topping the league for now is because Asernal have not meet clubs like Manchester city or other stronger clubs in this season.

But then also,  Asernal may also still have a good chance of winning the title in the season,  if they continue and luck be on their side.
You are wrong my friend, Arsenal have beaten Manchester City this season with a narrow score of 1-0 to be precise in Week 8, and have also beaten Manchester United. It's true that we know that City is stronger and tougher than Arsenal, but currently Arteta squad leads the top of the EPL standings with a score of 30 points, 1 point ahead of City who collected 29 points. because they drew with Liverpool in their previous match.

Overall Arsenal performance is quite good this season, this was also proven when they faced two other tough clubs such as Chelsea and Tottenham, Arsenal avoided defeat by managing to draw. I think the competition for the top four is very fierce, and will peak towards the end of the season, and Arteta has certainly learned from the bitter experience of last season, that they need to be more consistent in every game, and not just at the end of the season. In this way, the EPL trophy that they have been waiting for for 20 years will be in their glass cupboard.

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November 27, 2023, 05:51:54 PM
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Arsenal had a really serious difficulty in beating Brentford indeed even though this win carried them to the top of the standings.  Sad  There was a goal of Trossard called offside by VAR. After that it felt like they were never going to score. Because in the second half the game was balanced compared to the first half.

I would have never expected Havertz to save the team honestly.  Grin  Because he has been quite inadequate in effort since he came here. It has been a long time since he scored his first goal at Arsenal as well. But he really became the savior here by scoring in the 89th minute.

If you noticed the way Arsenal are playing this season, you'd know that is quite different from the way they played last season, this time around they play to get the point which is very important and not to play a very interesting style of football and lose the game.
I still have that feeling that Arteta is trying something different to see if it will get them to win the league but is not going to be easy like it was last season even if they don't win the league.
For Havartz to get a goal in that encounter is not only going to motivate him but to put a fighting spirit in the team because they have already played out a draw in that game which won't be a good news for Arteta, so is a great win for the Gunners.

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November 27, 2023, 05:58:09 PM
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Anything can happen, we see Aston Villa continue to rise in position but to lead the table is still very minimal because their battle will be so tight maybe when facing an equal team Aston Villa can win when dealing with the team above it will make it difficult for Unai Emeri's team.

Maybe Aston Villa can enter the top 4 zone into UCL qualification but that's still what we think is still very difficult and cannot determine from now on, while the underdog team is always inconsistent.

It turns out that the coming week has another interesting match. Grin

Yeah, competition in the Premier League is very tight we can see the difference in points between the 4 teams is only 2 points meaning the standings can change every week starting with Tottenham then Manchester City and this week Arsenal, next Liverpool? or Arsenal will stay there for a long time. Regarding Aston Villa, I don't think they will be able to stay in 4th position because several teams are ready to take over one of them is Manchester United currently they are in a positive trend with 4 wins just need 4 more points.

Meanwhile, Tottenham cannot be relied on they must get out of their slump if they want to get back on track. Other team such as Newcastle have also not found their best performance even though in the last match they beat Chelsea but sometimes in the next match Newcastle only draw, meaning they are not consistent.

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November 27, 2023, 06:21:55 PM
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Arsenal toping the premier league table is something I find really competitive, their effort is making the league not to look like farmers league, where a particular club dominates the table from January to December. Though we can still give it to Manchester city, because they've shown a good sense of a defending champion. I remember at one point last season, arsenal where topping the league not until they fell down the ladder for Manchester city to climb. I believe this season, arsenal might just pull a surprise, because they have the fire power. As for Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea, they've both been inconsistent with their performance, so I'm not surprised seeing them drop points.
Yeah that's true there efforts is surely gonna be different from there last season performance because there last season started very well for them because of how good in performance they are that was why they were able to last that long on the premier League table. But however there failure started from when they were feeling that there is no club that can take away the premier league trophy so they began to feel relaxed until Manchester City surprises them and won the trophy.

So I believe that after what happened to there last season they will never underestimate any club again and however for them to have scale through by leading the premier League table once again they will never repeat there mistake because considering how close Manchester City is to them in times points, if Arsenal lose any match and Manchester City wins they automatically regain there position so Arsenal target now should be to seriously focus on there matches in other to will all.


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November 27, 2023, 06:47:59 PM
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Arsenal toping the premier league table is something I find really competitive, their effort is making the league not to look like farmers league, where a particular club dominates the table from January to December. Though we can still give it to Manchester city, because they've shown a good sense of a defending champion. I remember at one point last season, arsenal where topping the league not until they fell down the ladder for Manchester city to climb. I believe this season, arsenal might just pull a surprise, because they have the fire power. As for Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea, they've both been inconsistent with their performance, so I'm not surprised seeing them drop points.
Yeah that's true there efforts is surely gonna be different from there last season performance because there last season started very well for them because of how good in performance they are that was why they were able to last that long on the premier League table. But however there failure started from when they were feeling that there is no club that can take away the premier league trophy so they began to feel relaxed until Manchester City surprises them and won the trophy.

So I believe that after what happened to there last season they will never underestimate any club again and however for them to have scale through by leading the premier League table once again they will never repeat there mistake because considering how close Manchester City is to them in times points, if Arsenal lose any match and Manchester City wins they automatically regain there position so Arsenal target now should be to seriously focus on there matches in other to will all.



Yeah, they really must have learned their lesson, however what I noticed about Manchester city this season, is that they've not been able to prove themselves whenever they meet a big club this season in their last premier league big games.
Though I feel, those other big clubs tries to tighten their belt whenever they meet Manchester city, making it almost impossible for city to prove a point against them, arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool, have watered down that Manchester city dominance effect on other big teams.

I feel arsenal last season needed a psychological effect on the minds of the players for them to have maintained that top position Last season,  the arsenal players where later struck with injuries and fatigue.

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November 27, 2023, 07:12:31 PM
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If you noticed the way Arsenal are playing this season, you'd know that is quite different from the way they played last season, this time around they play to get the point which is very important and not to play a very interesting style of football and lose the game.
I still have that feeling that Arteta is trying something different to see if it will get them to win the league but is not going to be easy like it was last season even if they don't win the league.
For Havartz to get a goal in that encounter is not only going to motivate him but to put a fighting spirit in the team because they have already played out a draw in that game which won't be a good news for Arteta, so is a great win for the Gunners.
Arsenal will keeping for a better spot on EPL table this season because they messed up big time their golden opportunities of claiming the league title last season and they will leave to regret their relenting actions, the only way they can make amends is lifting the trophy this season with this outstanding squad. Mikel Arteta attempts to maintains this balance records in streak winnings.The Arsenal we have watch their games is quite different from the Arsenal last season. Alot of things have improved for Gunners and they're heading to EPL glory this season.

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November 27, 2023, 07:45:53 PM
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Manchester united game is quite interesting, especially with the world class goal scored by the wonder boy Gar nacho. The bicycle kick is very accurate and I think its better than Wayne Rooney's at old Trafford. Everton has had more chances in this game, but they keep wasting it. They would've been leading now if not for their misses. I hope they don't pay dearly for those misses. Calvert-lewin is really underperforming today. I hope they bounce back this second half and equalize to balance this game. First half scores = Eve 0 - 1 MNU


That was an incredible comeback against Manchester United, and Garnacho is an outstanding player. Even though Cristiano Ronaldo's last goal in Al Nassr was the best goal of the season, Garnacho's goal remains the best goal of the season. Ten Hag's should have known that the boy needs more encouragement and that he has the ability to do well in football. Manchester United's performance against Everton really surprised me. I couldn't stop thinking, "Is this the same Manchester United that's playing this way?" Since they performed well, I assumed that Everton would do their hardest to defeat Manchester United and win, but they missed their opportunity. Chelsea will know that Manchester united are far better than them now.

Kobbie Mainoo performed well in the Manchester United midfield yesterday in his first Premier League game. Rashford, who is incapable of scoring goals, was given the chance to take a penalty, which was allowed by Bruno, the team's most reliable taker of penalties. If Manchester United keeps playing this way, I think they will win more games.

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November 27, 2023, 08:59:50 PM
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Actually, nothing has changed much in the top 10 standings this week apart from Arsenal who managed to top the standings and also Spurs who had to be knocked out of the top 4. The two teams that lost last week were Chelsea and Spurs, the rest all won and drew. I feel that the team competition in the EPL will become more exciting every week, especially with the point difference being so small, the results will be very influential.

Moreover, Aston Villa has the opportunity to top the standings if the 3 strong teams above them get bad results. Even though last week just finished, I can't wait for the EPL matches to return this week. It would be very nice for some of these teams to continue to compete, especially for Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool who are only 1 point behind.
Arsenal and Aston Villa are the two performer of the league last week matches while Man Utd position remain unchanged despite their win against Everton though with Tottenham dropping three points, Liverpool and Man City dropping two points respectively mean Man Utd had close their points gap to 2, 4 and 5, of course pushed them for a top 4 contender or even a title contender subject to consistency in winning their subsequent matches, I believe this season title competition would be very competitive looking at how the top teams are performing and with just few points separating them, week in week out there are bound to be different results that would make or mar the position of the leading team, unlike previous seasons where the top team would lead with wide margin points.

Yes, the table looks like it's very difficult to get into the top 6 now, although in previous seasons it was a doable task for teams, but now, given how everyone has gained momentum.. I think it's almost unrealistic. As for MU, they are performing very well and Tan Hag's tactics seem to be working, so he's being talked about for nothing.

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November 27, 2023, 09:21:36 PM
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Yes, the table looks like it's very difficult to get into the top 6 now, although in previous seasons it was a doable task for teams, but now, given how everyone has gained momentum.. I think it's almost unrealistic. As for MU, they are performing very well and Tan Hag's tactics seem to be working, so he's being talked about for nothing.
English Premier League are anticipated by the serious clubs and the ones that couldn't meet up will end up been relegated from the league at the end of the season. Manchester united happen to be the only team that keeps surprising me in league games, they're absolutely not having any good scores in matches but they keep climbing forward on the EPL table this season and I ask myself how? Erik Ten Hag have been linked to be one of the major reasons why the Red Devils performance have declined so poorly this season but I think the fault comes from the players that are weigh below performance.

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November 27, 2023, 09:24:31 PM
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After several FFP accusations against Man City, Pep Guardiola finally spoke. Pep fully supports the FFP rules. He is also ready if indeed Man City are guilty and get a bad punishment. Like relegation. Even Pep is preparing to stay with Man City until his contract expires. Pep told fans to be patient and wait for a decision and Man City disagree with all the issues they are accused of.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/24/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-premier-league-ffp
That is a genteel way as men because indeed they must be prepared to be punished if they are proven guilty and currently there are already several charges of wrongdoing filed but in my opinion no matter how big a mistake Manchester City made they still will not be punished severely even relegation because in this case Manchester City is now one of the clubs that makes them profitable in any case including taxes besides that, there are some rumors that I read do not know that this is true or not but if in the end they punish Manchester City severely then there is an inexplicable relationship with Investors from the middle east with several people involved from the same authorization must be disturbed. But if it is credibility that is sought then the punishment must be fair in order to set a good example for fair competition.
Speaking about regulations, Everton is in a big mess because firstly they are at the bottom of the table also they were deducted 10 points from their points, for violation of Premier League's profit and sustainability rules. It couldn't get any harder for them this season and with this weekend result, relegation is what's left to battle out of, not the top of table. I am sincerely not happy with the turn out of events for Everton because they had become one of my favorites, but am hoping that they sign better players in January so as to remain in the premier league first and then a top contender among other English teams vying for the premier league trophy in coming seasons.
They were previously in mid-table because they had 14 points but after they received the punishment now of course 10 points deduction makes them at the bottom but with this we know that just one charge for Everton makes them lose 10 points and now we are talking about Manchester City, They are charged with more than 100 charges now but the progress of the investigation is still quite tough whether indeed there are some things that happen behind the scenes or indeed they cannot be investigated because they are clean from the existing charges actually we need clarification on this because however if in the end there is a situation happening towards the end of this season the same will be the situation of Juventus last season which makes this could harm Manchester City further if they are proven guilty.
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                                         Fulham vs wolves

It's been an interesting first 45 minutes of thrilling football in craven cottage, Fulham play host to wolverampton FC. Alex Iwobi scored the opener in the 7th minute, and Cunha got the equalizer for wolves at the 22nd minute to make it level here in craven cottage infront of the home fans. Right now it's 69 minutes into the second half and Iwobi the goal scorer seem to be in need of a supporting striker or some partnership upfront to get things done. Fulham where awarded with penalty which I think VAR was very justifiable with that decision.
It's 69 minutes played so far and Fulham are winning 2-1, wolves can still make out something out if this game.

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