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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 89 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.1%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.3%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.3%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 192

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February 08, 2023, 09:04:44 AM
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Hey guys what do you think about the investigation been carried out on Manchester City about some of their financial misconducts, this misconducts does not only apply to one season but covers over 3 year.

If Manchester city is found guilty they would be facing the possibility of fine, getting point deduction or worst been stripped off their title.

Possible Man City sanctions:
- Points deduction(s)
- Expulsion from the league
- Trophies rescinded
- European ban
- Transfer ban
- Hefty fine(s)

The point deduction could be either 15 just like Juventus this season or 25 like Derby county last two season. And I heard they can’t even appeal it in the court.
In addition to the sanctions you detailed above, Manchester City has the potential to be left by its coach Pep Guardiola. Manchester City have hired a reliable lawyer to face accusations of violating the Financial Rules, heavy sanctions await Manchester City if found guilty. Reporting from the Express, Manchester City is in danger of dropping four castes or playing on the National League stage or the fifth caste competition in England due to financial violations.

Not only its coach. Some players are ready for leaving manchester city if premier league will be a degrading city to the championship league. I think that haaland has been picking the wrong team. Pep itself feels disappointed with city caused by the latest case that happened with city. City has been even forcing pep to resign from his position.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11721907/Man-City-expect-Pep-Guardiola-left-club-sanctions.html

It seems like we will not see city against in EPL next season. City will be marked as shady team.

This could turn into an interesting legal case I believe. Think about it, usually some players do have clauses implemented in their contracts that if something like this happens, they have the right to unilaterally cancel the contract and leave the club. I wonder though if all of those players have such clauses? But Manchester City also is a different kind of beast. Most clubs would probably have to sell most of their top starts when they get relegated to the second division. Since Manchester City is filthy rich, they might be able to buffer the problem quite a bit. The big problem is that I assume the financial fair play rules also apply to the Championship league? If that is the case the players would either voluntarily have to forego salary in order to help the club comply with the rules, or they would indeed have to leave the club.

Now my question is, do you guys really, really think that a club like Manchester City would be punished so hard that it could mean the end of this era? There is only one good reason that might indeed happen and that is because Juventus already got a severe punishment as well and if it turns out that Manchester City's behavior was even way worse, then that might be the end at least for a couple of years. It will be particularly hard to make a comeback when indeed the financial fair play rules are now enforced even harder.
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February 08, 2023, 09:07:42 AM
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Leeds United has a new coach that want to impress the management, and he first test is man utd this weekend.
The sack of Jesse Marsch was one that came unexpected to me. Yeah, Leeds wasn't doing great lately in there games but, personally, I still feel this sack was impromptu. This is just a decision out of Everton's play book with hopes to get a more enthusiastic play out of players with the attitude that accompanies a new manager.
Unlike Everton, Leeds wernt that bad. That's why Jesse Marsch ought to have been give more chance to figure out what went wrong in his team.
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February 08, 2023, 09:13:33 AM
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Hey guys what do you think about the investigation been carried out on Manchester City about some of their financial misconducts, this misconducts does not only apply to one season but covers over 3 year.

If Manchester city is found guilty they would be facing the possibility of fine, getting point deduction or worst been stripped off their title.

Possible Man City sanctions:
- Points deduction(s)
- Expulsion from the league
- Trophies rescinded
- European ban
- Transfer ban
- Hefty fine(s)

The point deduction could be either 15 just like Juventus this season or 25 like Derby county last two season. And I heard they can’t even appeal it in the court.
In addition to the sanctions you detailed above, Manchester City has the potential to be left by its coach Pep Guardiola. Manchester City have hired a reliable lawyer to face accusations of violating the Financial Rules, heavy sanctions await Manchester City if found guilty. Reporting from the Express, Manchester City is in danger of dropping four castes or playing on the National League stage or the fifth caste competition in England due to financial violations.

Not only its coach. Some players are ready for leaving manchester city if premier league will be a degrading city to the championship league. I think that haaland has been picking the wrong team. Pep itself feels disappointed with city caused by the latest case that happened with city. City has been even forcing pep to resign from his position.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11721907/Man-City-expect-Pep-Guardiola-left-club-sanctions.html

It seems like we will not see city against in EPL next season. City will be marked as shady team.

I really feel bad for pep because he believed in the administration and always defending the team but it's seems that finally they are not worth defending, pep guardiola is a great coach and he really don't deserve such things, he spent many years building this club but unfortunately that's what he finally found

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February 08, 2023, 09:19:22 AM
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Leeds United has a new coach that want to impress the management, and he first test is man utd this weekend.
The sack of Jesse Marsch was one that came unexpected to me. Yeah, Leeds wasn't doing great lately in there games but, personally, I still feel this sack was impromptu. This is just a decision out of Everton's play book with hopes to get a more enthusiastic play out of players with the attitude that accompanies a new manager.
Unlike Everton, Leeds wernt that bad. That's why Jesse Marsch ought to have been give more chance to figure out what went wrong in his team.
Leeds management did the right thing by sacking an unperforming coach. Every club must not be like Everton who waits until they are deep down into the relegation region before they could sack their coach.
If you can remember, from last season Leeds is a team that people fear to play because they can pull a surprise at any time. At a time they were beating almost the who big teams, but that cannot be said about Leeds now again.

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February 08, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
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Arsenal's defeat in the hands of Everton came as a blow to the team's confidence and their league title ambitions, I believed that Arsenal will win the game so I was left disappointed with the result. Fortunately for them, Manchester City also lost against Tottenham and Arsenal secured their five points lead in the table.
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February 08, 2023, 09:40:45 AM
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who doubts to bet MU when seeing that odds?
Leeds is underperformance after losing versus Forest. While MU is being confident after almost winning with 2 different goals at Old Trafford.
But, what makes me a bit doubtful is unstable performances, which is still like a specter to all in on MU.
Yes, I agree with you that Man-u have had an unstable performance in the past, which its always kind of risky placing a bet on them, but I'm more confident in today's  game that Man-U will win against Leed via having a look at its previous head-to-head game between both teams, as I came to notice that Man-U has always been at advantage of winning with huge gaps, of which from the score line of the last 5 matches, Man -U has always won with match ending with Over 3.5, same as what I predict will occur today

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February 08, 2023, 09:41:00 AM
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It is another sad story for Manchester United if Tominay will not be able to play in the midfield. This is a big issue to Manchester United coach. I don't trust that the new midfielder signed by Manchester can be able to pair perfectly with Fred. If the midfield is not very strong, it will limit the Manchester attack from unleashing because they will be trying to join the midfield instead of attacking 100%

In this match we will see how the Man United midfield works, and if I refer to several possible formations and line-ups that Ten Hag will use in this match.  Ten Hag uses the same formation with 4-2-3-1, unfortunately Casemiro has to be absent due to a red card suspension, Eriksen is absent due to injury, McTominay, Anthony Martial, Van de-beak are also absent.

Automatically, Ten Hag had no choice to play Fred as the starting line-up.  well, the problem is in United's midfield. as usual, Fred's job is to be a defensive midfielder. so, we will see the game show Marcel Sabitzer, he plays as an attacking plus defensive midfielder. for defense and attack I don't think it's a problem, so we'll see how Fred and Marcel Sabitzer will work together.

IMO, if these two players play with high performance. Leed, is not a difficult opponent for them to overthrow. after all, United are playing at their own headquarters and three points are mandatory results for United to get in this match.

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February 08, 2023, 09:53:14 AM
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Yes, I agree with you that Man-u have had an unstable performance in the past, which its always kind of risky placing a bet on them, but I'm more confident in today's  game that Man-U will win against Leed via having a look at its previous head-to-head game between both teams, as I came to notice that Man-U has always been at advantage of winning with huge gaps, of which from the score line of the last 5 matches, Man -U has always won with match ending with Over 3.5, same as what I predict will occur today

Manchester United, if they win, can equal City on points, this shows how much work Ten Hag has done in the team. Leeds are not very strong, they are right above the relegation zone and they have the same number of points as Everton and they really need points because the fight for survival at the bottom of the standings will be very difficult this year. But probably Leeds have no chance against Manchester United today.
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February 08, 2023, 10:08:18 AM
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If you check very well,  old Chelsea players to go to Arsenal doesn't always excel well in the club, especially in the recent times. Take for example David Luiz was doing great in Chelsea but could not uphold it in Arsenal. How about Williams who also suffered same fate and now it is Jorginho, let me see if there will be a difference.
Many Chelsea's player move to Arsenal and their performance drop drastically and last transfer with Willian have impressive performance with Chelsea but he failed totally after becoming Arsenal player. Exactly different with Arsenal player joined to Chelsea have impressive performance like Ashley Cole and he success get many trophies with the blues from Primer League until Champion League.

Current performance, Arsenal still on the top standing position and Chelsea have drastically poor performance and drop to 9th standing position, I don't sure with Jorginho will get failure with Arsenal in this season because they have great chance for winning Primer League tittle after waiting almost twenty years.
Hopefully Jorginho can make a positive impact at Arsenal. It is true that most players who have switched sides from Chelsea to Arsenal have turned out to flop but let’s not make that a norm. We will see how well Jorginho will perform for Arsenal this time, if he will break the myth or join the list of disappointments in this switch.
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Manchester United, if they win, can equal City on points, this shows how much work Ten Hag has done in the team. Leeds are not very strong, they are right above the relegation zone and they have the same number of points as Everton and they really need points because the fight for survival at the bottom of the standings will be very difficult this year. But probably Leeds have no chance against Manchester United today.

It's a good opportunity, failing to make the game to get three points makes it even more difficult for Man United to match Man City's points. I think Ten Hag will put out all the ways to win. The choice for midfield may be difficult, but Ten Hag could choose Sabitzer and Fred for this match. Fred is playing in his current position and performing quite well. I think this would be the best option right now because another midfielder is injured and gets a card.


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February 08, 2023, 10:30:46 AM
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It is another sad story for Manchester United if Tominay will not be able to play in the midfield. This is a big issue to Manchester United coach. I don't trust that the new midfielder signed by Manchester can be able to pair perfectly with Fred. If the midfield is not very strong, it will limit the Manchester attack from unleashing because they will be trying to join the midfield instead of attacking 100%

In this match we will see how the Man United midfield works, and if I refer to several possible formations and line-ups that Ten Hag will use in this match.  Ten Hag uses the same formation with 4-2-3-1, unfortunately Casemiro has to be absent due to a red card suspension, Eriksen is absent due to injury, McTominay, Anthony Martial, Van de-beak are also absent.

Automatically, Ten Hag had no choice to play Fred as the starting line-up.  well, the problem is in United's midfield. as usual, Fred's job is to be a defensive midfielder. so, we will see the game show Marcel Sabitzer, he plays as an attacking plus defensive midfielder. for defense and attack I don't think it's a problem, so we'll see how Fred and Marcel Sabitzer will work together.

IMO, if these two players play with high performance. Leed, is not a difficult opponent for them to overthrow. after all, United are playing at their own headquarters and three points are mandatory results for United to get in this match.
In today’s game against Leeds United, Manchester United will be without three players.
Scott McTominay, one of the options to replace Casemiro, is missing with an unspecified problem while Anthony Martial is still going to miss this one as his injury drama continue. Antony, meanwhile, is also not available.
With all these injuries, Ten Hag biggest concern is the midfield but I suspect Ten Hag will probably line up a 4-2-3-1 formation with Fred and Sabitzer as a double pivot and Bruno players behind Weghorst. Then Rashford on the left wing while Sancho resumes EPL football today to play on the right. Leeds aren’t in a good shape, so there won’t be much trouble for Manchester United.
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February 08, 2023, 11:10:13 AM
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It is another sad story for Manchester United if Tominay will not be able to play in the midfield. This is a big issue to Manchester United coach. I don't trust that the new midfielder signed by Manchester can be able to pair perfectly with Fred. If the midfield is not very strong, it will limit the Manchester attack from unleashing because they will be trying to join the midfield instead of attacking 100%

In this match we will see how the Man United midfield works, and if I refer to several possible formations and line-ups that Ten Hag will use in this match.  Ten Hag uses the same formation with 4-2-3-1, unfortunately Casemiro has to be absent due to a red card suspension, Eriksen is absent due to injury, McTominay, Anthony Martial, Van de-beak are also absent.

Automatically, Ten Hag had no choice to play Fred as the starting line-up.  well, the problem is in United's midfield. as usual, Fred's job is to be a defensive midfielder. so, we will see the game show Marcel Sabitzer, he plays as an attacking plus defensive midfielder. for defense and attack I don't think it's a problem, so we'll see how Fred and Marcel Sabitzer will work together.

IMO, if these two players play with high performance. Leed, is not a difficult opponent for them to overthrow. after all, United are playing at their own headquarters and three points are mandatory results for United to get in this match.
In today’s game against Leeds United, Manchester United will be without three players.
Scott McTominay, one of the options to replace Casemiro, is missing with an unspecified problem while Anthony Martial is still going to miss this one as his injury drama continue. Antony, meanwhile, is also not available.
With all these injuries, Ten Hag biggest concern is the midfield but I suspect Ten Hag will probably line up a 4-2-3-1 formation with Fred and Sabitzer as a double pivot and Bruno players behind Weghorst. Then Rashford on the left wing while Sancho resumes EPL football today to play on the right. Leeds aren’t in a good shape, so there won’t be much trouble for Manchester United.

Manchester United has a tough challenge on Saturday against Leeds without three of its top players. Ten Hag's 4-2-3-1 configuration appears to be taking shape with Fred and Sabitzer as double pivot in midfield, but the absence of key players may ultimately decide the outcome.

Although Leeds still has some personnel issues, they have shown remarkable improvement as of late. Leeds shouldn't be written out just yet, even though Manchester United is still the superior team. It's going to be an exciting game despite the difficulty of the matchup.

It may come down to which team seizes its opportunities. Manchester United will need to be at the top of their game to take advantage of any possibilities that arise in light of the present injury situation. Leeds will be playing in front of their home crowd, so they'll be aiming to take advantage of any slip-ups. Overall, I think this is going to be a really fun game to watch!

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February 08, 2023, 11:12:25 AM
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I agree with that because indeed one player's substitution should not have too much impact, but the current situation seems to be different. Liverpool are still in the same scheme but the quality of the players this season is like they are under real pressure. Salah still can't do much in attack, Nunez is still difficult in terms of finishing. on the other hand, Van Dijk's defense and Trent Alexander Arnlod have also been underperforming this season in my opinion
I think losing a key player will not be bad for the team as a whole. But after Mane's departure, Liverpool's appearance dropped sharply. I think apart from losing Mane there are other factors that might have contributed. I think Liverpool failed to rejuvenate the team. Indeed, The Kop's management must be shrewd in finding talented young players for the future of the team. We can see together that until now Klopp still relies on most of the old squad in his starting eleven. This certainly does not have a good impact on the team to compete in elite competition and have a very busy match schedule. In addition, Liverpool's transfer policy in the last two transfer windows was also not quite right. They are too focused on the front lines so that the needs in the midfield which is a very crucial point do not get new ammunition that can be relied on. With conditions like this, I think it will be very difficult for Liverpool to get out of the crisis that is currently hitting them.
The problem for the team's rejuvenation is a bit hampered because even though there are some young players there, Klopp still plays midfielders who can be said to be quite old.
On the other hand, currently no one is really suitable to fill Henderson's position, for example, because the young players for their midfield are, on average, attacking-type players, not defensive midfielders.

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February 08, 2023, 11:20:13 AM
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There is a good news for Man United, a new takeover bid from Qatar come for Man United. If the deal come true, MU will get more money to buy new players. The source says on media:
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“There are significant funds available," sources told the publication. “These people are serious. They want to make sure that United are where they should be and they are confident theirs will be the strongest bid. They want to strengthen the squad to put them back at the top but they also want this to be for the good of the community."

Read: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1731942/Man-Utd-Qatar-takeover-Erik-ten-Hag-Premier-League-football-news-Glazers

But, the real questions is not about how much money they have, but "how MU can manage their position to back on title track, even with the new money power they have"? Because sometimes even a club spent hundred million pounds to buy player, they are still failed to win anything.

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February 08, 2023, 11:26:21 AM
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The problem for the team's rejuvenation is a bit hampered because even though there are some young players there, Klopp still plays midfielders who can be said to be quite old.
On the other hand, currently no one is really suitable to fill Henderson's position, for example, because the young players for their midfield are, on average, attacking-type players, not defensive midfielders.

The problem isn't just midfield anymore, everything seems to be falling apart.

Never play Gomez and Matip as CB pairs again
Attacking midfield and the entire front three lack any teeth (this is not really Nunez'a fault, but the result of a collapse in team morale, which leads me to ask: WTF happened to Salah?

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February 08, 2023, 12:39:19 PM
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Hopefully Jorginho can make a positive impact at Arsenal. It is true that most players who have switched sides from Chelsea to Arsenal have turned out to flop but let’s not make that a norm. We will see how well Jorginho will perform for Arsenal this time, if he will break the myth or join the list of disappointments in this switch.
It's still too early to say he's difficult to develop. As you said, even though in this case, as you said, there were several players from Chelsea who failed when wearing Arsenal costumes, but that doesn't mean that all of them are like that.
Jorginho is one of those players who has a lot of experience, whether it's in the EPL or in other big leagues, so this is a pretty good capital for him, especially at this time, it's likely that his condition will replace Partey because Partey is currently still in trouble.
In my opinion, his current age is still enough to be competitive so this can really be a differentiator when Partey is more frequent with his speed, the presence of Jorginho can have an impact in terms of his passing.

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There is a good news for Man United, a new takeover bid from Qatar come for Man United. If the deal come true, MU will get more money to buy new players. The source says on media:
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“There are significant funds available," sources told the publication. “These people are serious. They want to make sure that United are where they should be and they are confident theirs will be the strongest bid. They want to strengthen the squad to put them back at the top but they also want this to be for the good of the community."

Read: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1731942/Man-Utd-Qatar-takeover-Erik-ten-Hag-Premier-League-football-news-Glazers

But, the real questions is not about how much money they have, but "how MU can manage their position to back on title track, even with the new money power they have"? Because sometimes even a club spent hundred million pounds to buy player, they are still failed to win anything.
To be a serious contender in the Premier League really depends on performance and consistency, but if in the process it is supported with large and healthy finances, I think the potential for improvement will be even greater. We all know that the Glazer family only cares about their business, and even many of Man United's supporters want them to leave Man United. So if this ownership is really successfully taken over by new investors, I think it will be a new hope, especially if that person is a Man United fan.

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February 08, 2023, 12:45:16 PM
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I don't have the ball to risk that on Manchester United in the match later today, even though the odds are tempting.
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who doubts to bet MU when seeing that odds?
Leeds is underperformance after losing versus Forest. While MU is being confident after almost winning with 2 different goals at Old Trafford.
But, what makes me a bit doubtful is unstable performances, which is still like a specter to all in on MU.
Yes, I agree with you that Man-u have had an unstable performance in the past, which its always kind of risky placing a bet on them, but I'm more confident in today's  game that Man-U will win against Leed via having a look at its previous head-to-head game between both teams, as I came to notice that Man-U has always been at advantage of winning with huge gaps, of which from the score line of the last 5 matches, Man -U has always won with match ending with Over 3.5, same as what I predict will occur today
One of the thing we should not allow to deceive us when placing bets is the odds, we should not follow odds because if gou check the odds giving to Manchester united 1:45 odds is something quite tempting but then it os not certain Manchester united will win the match and based on that we will have to depend on luck since we have seen multiple inconsistency in man u performance as their easily lose to smaller clubs.

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February 08, 2023, 12:50:28 PM
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from the start of the season until now Leeds has not shown any improvement. in fact it has been a long time since Leeds got a win in the Premier league. Leeds' last victory was against Bournemouth in Week 15. and since then Leeds have not won again. and tomorrow Leeds must prepare to face MU which is currently in a condition that is getting better. MU early in the season was not very consistent. but in the second half of the season after the World Cup break. we see very good change in Team MU lately. So of course in tomorrow's game MU will be favourites.

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February 08, 2023, 01:26:40 PM
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from the start of the season until now Leeds has not shown any improvement. in fact it has been a long time since Leeds got a win in the Premier league. Leeds' last victory was against Bournemouth in Week 15. and since then Leeds have not won again. and tomorrow Leeds must prepare to face MU which is currently in a condition that is getting better. MU early in the season was not very consistent. but in the second half of the season after the World Cup break. we see very good change in Team MU lately. So of course in tomorrow's game MU will be favourites.

Leeds performance has not been really good. They had just recently let go of their coach after losing their last match on Sunday against Nottingham Forest. It would definitely be an easy win for Manchester United as they’re the favorites to win all over.

During the preseason games, Manchester United played well but at the beginning stage of the league, they had lost their first two games. I believed Ten Hag was then still making some critical changes. Changes that is now reflecting in the current gameplay of the squad.
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