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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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April 28, 2023, 05:52:08 PM
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Sometimes I don’t really blame Ten Hag with the substitutions. Manchester United were winning and had the game well under control. they have lots of games and also premier league they have all to play for. So him resting the big players is logical and understandable. He expected the subs to just to manage the game. But they failed him, they couldn’t. His subs totally changed the dynamics of the game.

Previously, I had expected this fight to end in a draw, but I took the risk to bet on Manchester United. the final result, the match ended in a draw even though United actually excelled in the first half with a score of 2-0. Unfortunately, United were unable to maintain their advantage until Spurs finally equalized. that way, Manchester United failed to gain full points and Spurs were saved from defeat. otherwise, they will be humiliated in front of their own public.

If we review the match between these two teams, Ten Hag made the decision too quickly to withdraw some of his players and be replaced with second tier players. IMO, the replacement of Sancho, Eriksen, too soon. I think, ideally the substitution is done at 80+ minutes. which in the end, United's attack became a bit lax. especially after that, Ten Hag withdrew some of his players and replaced them with others. but for Bissaka, the Ten Hag should have replaced him sooner than the others. because Aaron Wan-Bissaka played underperform. As a result, this was put to good use by the Spurs, which in the end, the Spurs were able to take advantage of the momentum to provide high pressing and the score ended 2-2.
well, no other words, this is the art of the football game. that every final result is always determined when the game is running. that way, both teams were only able to win one point the same.

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April 28, 2023, 05:58:43 PM
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Arsenal lost focus in the title race by not taking their important previous four matches serious
Like three matches played by Arsenal before playing with Manchester city, Arsenal where reserving most of his players, all his target was against Manchester City,  so he didn't want to misuse his players, which have lead him to his current failure, Arteta couldn't even win the Manchester city he has been reserving his players against, and the once you should have taken serous which will help you, you draw all the matches. If Arsenal won their match against Liverpool, west ham, Southampton and lose to Manchester city, they will still have hope that they can win the league.
All their good effort in the beginning of the league has been useless since they won't be able to win the league.
I think that's just the most painful part, after performing well from being to the ending, they made their fans have hope that they are going to win the league this season, but when they are having few matches left, they started misbehaving, now everyone already lose hope in them.
It was obvious that Arsenal was going to lose the match against Manchester City looking at the past head-to-head performances between the two giants. I knew that Arsenal stood no chance at winning the match but I had anticipated a draw. Arteta the Arsenal coach  would have played a more defensive rather than an offensive formation, Arsenal would have stood a chance at regaining and maintaining their spot on the premier league table with just a draw. Man city on the other hand came on with their best team players which made it look so easy that they won the match.
Before the game began, I had high expectations for Arsenal. Their previous performance had been excellent, so I was already convinced that nothing could stop them and that, at the very least, the game would end in a draw. However, to my surprise, Manchester City was playing Arsenal as if they were a small club with excessive confidence, to the point where they ended up defeating Arsenal 4:1. The more Arsenal's lack of teamwork damaged their performance and cost them dearly, Arteta would have focused on defense. Arsenal still have a lot to learn against next season.

Arsenal's performance against Manchester City was very poor. This is why they were badly defeated. The way they performed in the last three games before this match, I was almost certain that Arsenal would not win against City. Arsenal played defensively in this match. Even so, they conceded four goals. I don't think Arsenal's defense will break down that badly. My guess was that Manchester City would probably get a narrow win. However, Manchester City played well at home. They were able to score 4 goals due to the great performance of Haaland and De Bruyne.

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April 28, 2023, 06:09:10 PM
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Arsenal vs chelsea gonna be a funny match. I meant incapability of chelsea to create even a single goal has become the chief concern here. Let's see how many goals will be made by arsenal against chelsea. Arsenal's odds is very good at this moment against chelsea.
I will pick arsenal for this match. Chelsea seems has very small chance to get draw against arsenal. It looks impossible to think if chelsea would be able to win against arsenal.
Anyone at this time would doubt Chelsea, we have nothing to hope for more with the Arsenal game. We already know the final result before the game starts, especially after the big defeat to Manchester City made Arteta no longer feel good with several games wasted. Talking about Chelsea's depravity, the season will never end, which is quite detrimental to many parties. Arsenal and Manchester City will face opponents they can accumulate wins on.

Arsenal lost the truck badly. They dropped points in four matches in a row. And Arsenal are likely to lose top spot in the points table in the coming weeks. The main reason for dropping points in four matches is the poor performance of Arsenal's defenders. Arsenal conceded a total of 11 goals in these four matches. And in the previous 29 matches, they had conceded 27 goals. Arsenal's overall performance has deteriorated due to sudden poor performances from defenders. If Arsenal's defence is not strong then they have no chance of winning the title this season. Manchester City is going to be the champion of this season.

Even though Arsenal looked worse but Arsenal also did not get consecutive defeats, but three consecutive draws. Indeed, this is of course a very unfortunate result because Manchester City is also getting closer and at the same time, Arsenal are still having trouble maintaining good results with three points in each of these matches. Therefore, at this moment Arsenal's position is indeed not safe, because Manchester City has a big chance to overtake Arsenal.

But regarding the match between Arsenal and Chelsea, I think it is clear that Arsenal will still get three points in this match. Even though Arsenal's defense is also on the decline, but I think Chelsea will still find it difficult to score goals. What's more, Arsenal still have the ability to make quick goals in the first half, so of course Arsenal will be able to defend it and can also score several other goals too.

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April 28, 2023, 06:10:14 PM
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Before the game began, I had high expectations for Arsenal. Their previous performance had been excellent, so I was already convinced that nothing could stop them and that, at the very least, the game would end in a draw. However, to my surprise, Manchester City was playing Arsenal as if they were a small club with excessive confidence, to the point where they ended up defeating Arsenal 4:1. The more Arsenal's lack of teamwork damaged their performance and cost them dearly, Arteta would have focused on defense. Arsenal still have a lot to learn against next season.

Well lot of us were expecting a good fight from Arsenal given how crucial the match was for both the teams. We weren't able to create attacks and find shots in the first half. Although we were enjoying good amount of possession but we weren't using it properly. Guardiola was smart with Haaland dropping down in attack and making assists and passes building up plays. Haaland was exceptional in that fixture and reason why so we lost by the big difference.

I still believe in the team and hope Arsenal will find perform consistently from here on till the end of the season.
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April 28, 2023, 06:15:07 PM
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Manchester City has a much better squad than Arsenal especially in defense and Arsenal's poor defense has been their weak point in their game, and it was a humiliating defeat and proves that Manchester City are better than Arsenal. It seems that this great hope has turned into a little hope for Arsenal to win the Premier League this season because the points obtained have been eroded by Manchester City, who are currently only 2 points away. And with a difference of 2 matches, this is proof that Manchester City will become the defending champion, with the record that the remaining matches always win.
Apart from experience and mentality, I think Arsenal should also have a lot of better quality players instead of relying solely on the ambitions of their young players. Arteta needs to be as realistic as possible about the opportunities that exist because they lack the experience of their players when under intense pressure from a team like Manchester City.
Of course Arsenal's defeat is not at all surprising, even Guardiola has also defeated Arsenal with the same score or even worse last season when Arsenal lost 5-0 at the Etihad as well. In fact, Manchester City is a team that has always won matches against Arsenal in Premier League matches in 4 consecutive seasons at least.
Arsenal's performance this season has surprised everyone. The team was consistently able to perform well. However, if we compare Arsenal's squad with Liverpool or Manchester City, it is well understood that the star players in Arsenal's team are comparatively fewer. Their match tactics were excellent, and the bonding between the players was strong, allowing Arsenal to occupy the top spot in the table. However, Arsenal management will definitely need to spend more money to strengthen their squad next season. Otherwise, Arsenal's performance will not be stable next season.
I have been very particular about Arsenals performance this season, mostly as they came from a depth of no trophy for some seasons now. It was however speculated that Manchester city would easily win even if Haaland didn't play.
This is just to let Arteta and the management know that they cannot win trophies without great signings. Am still going to root for them even till next season and hope they put on this kind or consistency next season too.

Arsenal's performance against Manchester City was poor. Due to this the team conceded 4 goals and lost badly. A number of issues with Arteta's team have become quite visible. Their attack and midfield are quite strong. But the defense is a bit weak. Arteta should try to strengthen his defense. Trying to increase the confidence of the players. Arsenal's team will be stronger if the players are confident. And we've had proof this season of what Arsenal's players are capable of.
However, if Arsenal wants to perform more consistently next season, they will definitely need to add a number of talented players to the squad. Arsenal needs to strengthen their attack and defense.

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April 28, 2023, 06:18:32 PM
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Some interesting matches that will come soon.

Arsenal vs chelsea gonna be a funny match. I meant incapability of chelsea to create even a single goal has become the chief concern here. Let's see how many goals will be made by arsenal against chelsea. Arsenal's odds is very good at this moment against chelsea.
I will pick arsenal for this match. Chelsea seems has very small chance to get draw against arsenal. It looks impossible to think if chelsea would be able to win against arsenal.

The match against west ham gonna be easy match for manchester city. Manchester City must not underestimate Westham in this match.
City's odd is more than what i have expected before.

The match between city vs westham can give decent reward for people who will pick city.

Their is  no doubt Arsenal will score more goals in the game than Chelsea,  about 5 straight games in a roll chelsea haven't won  any game.  Chelsea have not been able to solve their problems for the failure of their games,  there won't be any difference with the next game with arsenal.
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April 28, 2023, 06:21:52 PM
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Chelsea is having a bad or perhaps dramatic season, but they could still recharge before the game at Arsenal. It could just be that Arsenal will lose points again, and in that case City would already be 1.5 feet in the championship. I think the championship has been decided, I don't see Manchester City dropping many points and Arsenal is faltering on all sides at the moment. Still, a 2nd place finish is a great achievement from Arsenal and so is the way it is done. But, the season is not over yet and in theory Arsenal could still become champions but I'm not counting on it anymore.

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April 28, 2023, 06:24:29 PM
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It was obvious that Arsenal was going to lose the match against Manchester City looking at the past head-to-head performances between the two giants. I knew that Arsenal stood no chance at winning the match but I had anticipated a draw. Arteta the Arsenal coach  would have played a more defensive rather than an offensive formation, Arsenal would have stood a chance at regaining and maintaining their spot on the premier league table with just a draw. Man city on the other hand came on with their best team players which made it look so easy that they won the match.

We are more likely to say Manchester City will be able to become the team that won the league Premier, seeing the performance of Pep Guardiola's children who are getting better developed and I think this will lead them to win the English Premier League. Arsenal is a strong Rival in the league but Manchester City has always broken Arsenal in recent matches.
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April 28, 2023, 06:26:16 PM
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For next season, they really need to overhaul their defensive line in this regard in order to make their conditions much better because if things like this are maintained then it will indeed be the same in terms of results in the end.

In the end, if we refer to Manchester United's statistics last season, the reshuffle made by coach Erik ten Hag in the 2022-23 season produce slightly better results than last season, Manchester United managed to maintain their position in the top four of the EPL.
After see the improvement, does it still need to be rearrange like you said?

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Erik Ten Hag was having a beautiful season before their elimination from the UEFA Europa League competition. They've been a shadow of the Manchester United side that claimed the Caraboa Cup few months ago.
Injury for a fact played a major part in the diminishing of the teams performance but I think Manchester United could have done better. They look set to finish the season in the top four of the league table but they can as well win more matches to round the season
Manchester United have performed far better than last season,  I don't really blame Manchester united for their backsliding in performance in their recent games which I understand the main cause is due to injuries from their some of their key players. No matter the challenge of Manchester United right now, Manchester United had a great performance,  impressive this season. It is still  possible for them to maintain top 4 position to be in Champions league next season.

Manchester United's players aren't ready physically and you can see it. I feel like half the players in the team just don't have the strength to run in the second half. Man United could have won this game but they allowed Tottenham to equalise. I think Man Utd will finish 4th this season. But what will happen next season with a game like this?

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Erik Ten Hag was having a beautiful season before their elimination from the UEFA Europa League competition. They've been a shadow of the Manchester United side that claimed the Caraboa Cup few months ago.
Injury for a fact played a major part in the diminishing of the teams performance but I think Manchester United could have done better. They look set to finish the season in the top four of the league table but they can as well win more matches to round the season
Manchester United have performed far better than last season,  I don't really blame Manchester united for their backsliding in performance in their recent games which I understand the main cause is due to injuries from their some of their key players. No matter the challenge of Manchester United right now, Manchester United had a great performance,  impressive this season. It is still  possible for them to maintain top 4 position to be in Champions league next season.

Manchester United's players aren't ready physically and you can see it. I feel like half the players in the team just don't have the strength to run in the second half. Man United could have won this game but they allowed Tottenham to equalise. I think Man Utd will finish 4th this season. But what will happen next season with a game like this?

The team need many changes to be ready for the next season, ten hag is a good coach in my opinion but the team still need a lot of improvement if they want to play for the titles next season, their matches in the European league against sevella proved that they are not strong enough to play for titles

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April 28, 2023, 06:45:27 PM
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Unknowingly, this is actually a loss that Erik ten Hag has to pay. Moreover, even though he was already in the lead, he shouldn't have been too hasty in bringing in a substitute starting in the 61st minute. Erik ten Hag should have been more patient before losing control of his game and in fact this change resulted in a lack of stability in either the midfield or the back line. This is an important lesson for any coach when he is superior he should be able to maintain the existing stability first and there is no need to rush to make changes in strategy.
In the end, Ten Hag's main problem remained the same as when they faced Sevilla in the last quarter-final. He was too hasty in substitutions
Eriksen came off and substitutes like Fred and Malacia came in this match leaving them a bit disorganized in continuing the good trend that had been established since the first half.
Indeed, in this case it may have been intended to give space to the young players they have, but on several occasions they have continued to fail when given the opportunity, even in this match.

Manchester United had a real chance to win the match. They were ahead by two goals in this match. I was actually a little surprised to see the comeback from Tottenham. They are currently not performing that well. I thought Manchester United was going to make sure that there are going to stay in the top 4 and also ahead of Manchester United by a bigger difference after winning this match.

But it is true that some mistakes were made by the Manchester United coach. Otherwise, it could have been a result going in favor of Manchester United.

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April 28, 2023, 06:49:57 PM
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Arsenal lost focus in the title race by not taking their important previous four matches serious
Like three matches played by Arsenal before playing with Manchester city, Arsenal where reserving most of his players, all his target was against Manchester City,  so he didn't want to misuse his players, which have lead him to his current failure, Arteta couldn't even win the Manchester city he has been reserving his players against, and the once you should have taken serous which will help you, you draw all the matches. If Arsenal won their match against Liverpool, west ham, Southampton and lose to Manchester city, they will still have hope that they can win the league.

All their good effort in the beginning of the league has been useless since they won't be able to win the league.
I think that's just the most painful part, after performing well from being to the ending, they made their fans have hope that they are going to win the league this season, but when they are having few matches left, they started misbehaving, now everyone already lose hope in them.

It was obvious that Arsenal was going to lose the match against Manchester City looking at the past head-to-head performances between the two giants. I knew that Arsenal stood no chance at winning the match but I had anticipated a draw. Arteta the Arsenal coach  would have played a more defensive rather than an offensive formation, Arsenal would have stood a chance at regaining and maintaining their spot on the premier league table with just a draw. Man city on the other hand came on with their best team players which made it look so easy that they won the match.
I totally agree on the proposed tactics that arteta should have used, I mean c'mon man this Manchester city team are like hungry wolves looking to devour their opponent alive and that's what they certainly did with the gunners. Arsenal are a good team but arteta coming out to play Manchester city on this particular tie was a very option and a mistake I guess he would be regretting by now. But arsenal vs Chelsea is totally different case and I think arteta are going use this Chelsea game to console themselves after that heavy loss to Manchester city.

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April 28, 2023, 06:52:20 PM
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Chelsea is having a bad or perhaps dramatic season, but they could still recharge before the game at Arsenal. It could just be that Arsenal will lose points again, and in that case City would already be 1.5 feet in the championship. I think the championship has been decided, I don't see Manchester City dropping many points and Arsenal is faltering on all sides at the moment. Still, a 2nd place finish is a great achievement from Arsenal and so is the way it is done. But, the season is not over yet and in theory Arsenal could still become champions but I'm not counting on it anymore.
Chelsea can be the determinant that Manchester City can win the league this season, if Chelsea are able to hold Arsenal to a draw because the bad results experienced by Chelsea certainly force them not to drop points in any remaining matches this season, Arsenal if they still want to win the league this season Of course, they must be on the winning track in order to secure their position at the top of the standings.

There are still a few games left at the end of the season and arsenal's tough task is there are some clubs that are a bit difficult so people may not believe they will win the league this season but they have a chance to enter the UCL next season. arsenal's poor results also show their inconsistency at the end of this season, so I think arsenal and chelsea will end in a draw

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April 28, 2023, 06:53:17 PM
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Ten Hag is not deliberately resting its players at this time, because several players who are often used by Ten Hag such as Varane and Martinez are also still injured so they cannot be played into matches, after all Manchester United is currently only in the League competition. England and the FA Cup only, while in other competitions it doesn't exist anymore, so there is no intentional reason for Ten Hag to use substitute players in the previous matches.
The rotation can be made at any time as long as the coach feels that it is good for the players and the team in a match. So I don't consider that to be the source of Manchester United's failure to win the match. Sometimes coaches do this because a player is feeling tired from a busy schedule or because the player is not at his best, it's good to provide competition or to keep a player fit instead of forcing him to play.

At first I was surprised that Manchester United failed to win the game after they won 0-2 in the first half, but after all Tottenham's capacity and ability cannot be underestimated. Tottenham's form has been in trouble having struggled to win their last 4/5 matches, but Manchester United have failed to capitalize on it. Tottenham awaits a tough match against Liverpool tomorrow, while Manchester United will face Aston Villa.

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April 28, 2023, 07:00:11 PM
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Everyone is acting like Arsenal is done for and the league is over and City will win it. First of all, Arsenal is still leading the league right now with 2 points, yes it is true that City has 2 less games so that means a potentially 4 point lead, but if they lose even just one of those games or tie, that means a total of 3 or 4 points, and that means that 2 point lead for Arsenal will become just 1 or 2 point lead for City. In that case if Arsenal wins every game, and City just loses one, or even in one case tie, then City would lose and Arsenal would be the winner.

I see that as a potentially possible thing, how many games City has left? 6-7? Something like that, they may lose or tie in 2 of those, that is a very valid argument, and Arsenal may still have a chance. I am not saying that will be the future, none of us knows, but lets not act as if the league is over neither.

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April 28, 2023, 07:00:45 PM
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Unknowingly, this is actually a loss that Erik ten Hag has to pay. Moreover, even though he was already in the lead, he shouldn't have been too hasty in bringing in a substitute starting in the 61st minute. Erik ten Hag should have been more patient before losing control of his game and in fact this change resulted in a lack of stability in either the midfield or the back line. This is an important lesson for any coach when he is superior he should be able to maintain the existing stability first and there is no need to rush to make changes in strategy.
In the end, Ten Hag's main problem remained the same as when they faced Sevilla in the last quarter-final. He was too hasty in substitutions
Eriksen came off and substitutes like Fred and Malacia came in this match leaving them a bit disorganized in continuing the good trend that had been established since the first half.
Indeed, in this case it may have been intended to give space to the young players they have, but on several occasions they have continued to fail when given the opportunity, even in this match.

Manchester United had a real chance to win the match. They were ahead by two goals in this match. I was actually a little surprised to see the comeback from Tottenham. They are currently not performing that well.I thought Manchester United was going to make sure that there are going to stay in the top 4 and also ahead of Manchester United by a bigger difference after winning this match.

But it is true that some mistakes were made by the Manchester United coach. Otherwise, it could have been a result going in favor of Manchester United.

I believe you meant to say that, Manchester united was going to make sure to stay in the top 3 and ahead of Newcastle with a big difference in point.

Manchester united really supposed to be in the top 3, but unfortunately lost it to Newcastle, and I was even hoping that through this match against Tottenham, they would win and reclaim their top 3 position again, but then, they failed to win, and now, Newcastle is now ahead of them with 2 points, I think they've finanmt lost the top 3 to Newcastle.

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April 28, 2023, 07:14:58 PM
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Ten Hag is not deliberately resting its players at this time, because several players who are often used by Ten Hag such as Varane and Martinez are also still injured so they cannot be played into matches, after all Manchester United is currently only in the League competition. England and the FA Cup only, while in other competitions it doesn't exist anymore, so there is no intentional reason for Ten Hag to use substitute players in the previous matches.
The rotation can be made at any time as long as the coach feels that it is good for the players and the team in a match. So I don't consider that to be the source of Manchester United's failure to win the match. Sometimes coaches do this because a player is feeling tired from a busy schedule or because the player is not at his best, it's good to provide competition or to keep a player fit instead of forcing him to play.
However, it cannot be denied that the coach's decision to rotate players is considered to have a negative impact on the results of the match. Even though in the first half the advantage in terms of play and balance was clear to Erik ten Hag with an ideal composition. And in the second half, once the rotations were done, we both knew it was boring to keep the intensity down. Regardless of whether the players were not at their best and excelled in the first half, doesn't that show that the players are really at their best? Everyone wants to perform optimally in the first half and control the field well. In fact, the decision to withdraw some players could be considered an inappropriate decision. Keep in mind that Man United's current competition is only the Premier League and FA Cup. Their schedule is no longer as tight as when they were still following the Europa League. The Europa League elimination should give some players enough time to rest.

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April 28, 2023, 07:19:03 PM
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Everyone is acting like Arsenal is done for and the league is over and City will win it. First of all, Arsenal is still leading the league right now with 2 points, yes it is true that City has 2 less games so that means a potentially 4 point lead, but if they lose even just one of those games or tie, that means a total of 3 or 4 points, and that means that 2 point lead for Arsenal will become just 1 or 2 point lead for City. In that case if Arsenal wins every game, and City just loses one, or even in one case tie, then City would lose and Arsenal would be the winner.

I see that as a potentially possible thing, how many games City has left? 6-7? Something like that, they may lose or tie in 2 of those, that is a very valid argument, and Arsenal may still have a chance. I am not saying that will be the future, none of us knows, but lets not act as if the league is over neither.
Mate... do you need a soothsayer to tell you that's it's end of the road for Arsenal as long as this season's premier league is concerned? They missed their opportunity to extend the lead by dropping points and when they faced Manchester City they were humbled by the better side. Now, judging by the number of games Arsenal is playing and also opponents they are facing, there's no way Arsenal is going to win the league.

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April 28, 2023, 07:25:11 PM
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Arsenal may not have as much trouble playing Chelsea as we may believe, but it should be noted that even Arsenal is currently struggling.What is the guarantee that Arsenal will defeat Chelsea if they have not win any of four games played recently? And in regards to the matchup between Newcastle and Arsenal, I believe Newcastle has an edge over Arsenal owing to their current form relative to Arsenal's, as well as the fact that Arsenal will be playing Newcastle at away.i don't think even arsenal win the rest matches it can carry premier league because I don't think Manchester city will gave them that opportunity by losing two matches.
In the last 5 matches, Arsenal got 1 win, 3 draws, and 1 defeat. While Chelsea got 4 defeats and 1 draw. Chelsea never won any match in the last 5 matches, so I think Arsenal should be superior against Chelsea. According to the stats, everyone must agree that Chelsea won't be a problem for Arsenal although surely it has no guarantee for Arsenal to defeat them.

For Newcastle, they look in very good shape. I doubt if Arsenal will easily get full points against them. Even Man City may get a problem playing against a rising team like Newcastle. However, considering the current performance of Man City, I believe Man City will have a bigger chance to win against each team in all remaining matches.


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