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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 183

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September 13, 2023, 12:39:34 PM
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Not gonna lie, Chelsea has started this season pretty badly again. I am just amazed that they are still not being able to perform well even after spending so much money. And they have tried everything at this point. They have tried spending money to improve the squad. They have also tried making an overhaul of the squad. And so far nothing seems to work for them. Right now they are in the same position in which they have ended the last season, the 12th position. After all they had done, I thought they would start the season well. Now the only problem seems to be them needing a good coach. Because they have tried everything else.
Second game of this season for Chelsea on road as in first game they completely outclassed by West Ham United, and now they are going to face Bournemouth even they are in deep trouble but still this is not going to be easy game for the Chelsea because their inconsistency and poor performance clearly giving all details about their quality for this season with no doubt it is early days for the Pochettino but still it is not good start which can ruin them again in this season here we need a better and solid strategy from new coach with no interference from the owner as well which can give better results, but surely it's really important for them to have positive changes in early days of this season otherwise they can go down and out of the top again in this if thing have not positive change in near future.

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September 13, 2023, 01:13:50 PM
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Currently, Manchester United is going through a lot of turmoil, in which the relationship between Erik ten Hag and Sancho has had many cracks. I know there are many problems between Ten Hag and Sancho. Things aren't just happening this season. Discord arose from last season. Sancho's extremely unprofessional training attitude is why Ten Hag is upset. As for Manchester United, it is said that they have not yet fulfilled their promise to midfielder Jadon Sancho after he joined the team from Dortmund in the 2021 summer transfer window.
There have been rumors about Manchester United being ready to sell him next winter.

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September 13, 2023, 01:23:34 PM
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Currently, Manchester United is going through a lot of turmoil, in which the relationship between Erik ten Hag and Sancho has had many cracks. I know there are many problems between Ten Hag and Sancho. Things aren't just happening this season. Discord arose from last season. Sancho's extremely unprofessional training attitude is why Ten Hag is upset. As for Manchester United, it is said that they have not yet fulfilled their promise to midfielder Jadon Sancho after he joined the team from Dortmund in the 2021 summer transfer window.
There have been rumors about Manchester United being ready to sell him next winter.
But for now seeing the continuation of this drama is actually quite confusing.
Some time ago, Sancho, who even pinned a tweet criticizing Ten Hag, deleted it from his social media account and there are indications that they have started to make up.
This could happen and it would be great if it did. Sancho's presence could be one of the answers to Antony leaving for a while now and it would be great if Sancho and Ten Hag reconciled for the sake of Manchester Unite.
Tenhag's ego as a coach is well known and he is one of the people who is firm with the principles he thinks are right and not a few players have been in conflict because they disagree with Ten Hag in terms of views so in this case when Sancho is as insistent as Ten Hag then the possibility of the same case as Ronaldo happening for Sancho.

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September 13, 2023, 01:25:00 PM
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I would prefer to see arsenal used vieira instead of him. Vieira's contribution was real to the club while havertz was always wasting any opportunities that have been coming for him.
Despite being in a promising position in front of the goal net, Havertz failed to execute his final finishing on multiple occasions during matches against EPL clubs. Vieira is far better than him.
Arsenal paid him a lot for nothing. I think that this investment will not pay off.
Many of overrated ex-Chelsea's players are flopping when they joined other teams e.g. Jorginho, Mount, and Havertz. While other cheap players e.g. Kovacic and Pulisic are still able to survive in their new teams.

Arsenal still have many good quality players than Havertz, in center forward e.g. Jesus, Trossard and Nketiah, while midfielder they have Vieira.

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September 13, 2023, 01:28:36 PM
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Maybe because they finished last season with a very good achievement, they're not so ambitious this season and think that they will also finish this season well. But the fact is that they only managed to get 3 points from the 4 matches they have played, in the next match they will face Brentford and play at home.

3 days after they play Brentford they will meet AC Milan in the first matchday of the UCL, so I think they will lose again to Brentford because they have to prepare their best squad to meet AC Milan.
I don't think Newcastle will give up easily, maybe the start of the season is not very promising but it can still be improved, considering that they still have 34 matches to play so I won't be in a hurry to judge Newcastle performance as completely bad. Eddie Howe can right the wrongs of the start of the season, and against Brighton will be a test to get back to his ideal game. Honestly, what I need to comment on is that Newcastle is not making good use of player purchases in the transfer market.

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September 13, 2023, 01:31:39 PM
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This season started pretty bad for Newcastle by the way. That win over Aston Villa by 5-1 told me much more different things actually but the games after that ended up with really poor results. I know that these games were all challenging ones including the one against Brighton. But Newcastle should have performed better anyway.

For example they could have done better against a Liverpool playing with 10 players. But instead they couldn't do anything against that comeback. In the same way I would have expected them to be more competitive against Brighton but it didn't happen either. They had better figure out what is wrong as soon as possible.
Three losses in 4 matches, this is very serious. They look weaker than they did last season. I think the departure of Allan Saint-Maximin also had a negative impact. He was Newcastle United's most effective weapon in the offensive line. Even though new transfers are made to the team, it seems to me that the offensive line is still problematic. Isak is also a good attacker, but his dribbling, passing and finishing skills are definitely not at the same level as Maximin's. City and Liverpool matches were difficult matches, but losing 5-1 to Aston Villa was a great disappointment.

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September 13, 2023, 01:33:38 PM
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~snip~ inconsistency and poor performance clearly giving all details about their quality for this season with no doubt it is early days for the Pochettino but still it is not good start which can ruin them again in this season
Chelsea has truly struggled to discover their optimal composition since the middle of last season. In several matches against lower-ranked teams, Chelsea continues to face difficulties, and when it comes to their high-stakes Big Match encounters, their performance deteriorates even further.

Both Chelsea and Manchester United share a level of team instability that's nearly equal, but Manchester United has fared better than Chelsea did last season. These two teams frequently endure unexpected losses, despite being considered giants in the English Premier League. Manchester United faces its own set of issues, particularly between Ten Haag and Sancho, whose reported discordant relationship may very well be the trigger behind the suboptimal performances in some of Manchester United's recent matches.
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September 13, 2023, 01:35:44 PM
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I would prefer to see arsenal used vieira instead of him. Vieira's contribution was real to the club while havertz was always wasting any opportunities that have been coming for him.
Despite being in a promising position in front of the goal net, Havertz failed to execute his final finishing on multiple occasions during matches against EPL clubs. Vieira is far better than him.
Arsenal paid him a lot for nothing. I think that this investment will not pay off.
Many of overrated ex-Chelsea's players are flopping when they joined other teams e.g. Jorginho, Mount, and Havertz. While other cheap players e.g. Kovacic and Pulisic are still able to survive in their new teams.

Arsenal still have many good quality players than Havertz, in center forward e.g. Jesus, Trossard and Nketiah, while midfielder they have Vieira.

Yes indeed, the former Chelsea player has poor judgment in his new team and yes, it is a disadvantage too of course. After all, they basically keep playing in the Premier League which at least, they don't need a long time to be able to adapt well in their new team in the Premier League too. But what happens is, they look like players who have just played in the Premier League. So, paying them at a high cost is certainly not worth the quality they have at this moment, because they also still cannot make a good contribution to their new team until this moment.

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September 13, 2023, 01:39:39 PM
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Currently, Manchester United is going through a lot of turmoil, in which the relationship between Erik ten Hag and Sancho has had many cracks. I know there are many problems between Ten Hag and Sancho. Things aren't just happening this season. Discord arose from last season. Sancho's extremely unprofessional training attitude is why Ten Hag is upset. As for Manchester United, it is said that they have not yet fulfilled their promise to midfielder Jadon Sancho after he joined the team from Dortmund in the 2021 summer transfer window.
There have been rumors about Manchester United being ready to sell him next winter.
Believe me, if antony's allegations will be proven and manchester united is finished. It's caused by there's no positive vibes are coming to the manchester united. This club has tons of problems started with its defenders, greenwood, sancho, injury and many more. Sancho's case may come to its end as he has deleted his post related to the ten hag. I read some news said that if manchester united has been preventing antony to come back before he will have been finishing his case.
It seems like that MU is caring even more to the reputation of club instead of defending him. I hope that any problems in manchester united will be sorted out soon.

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September 13, 2023, 01:39:50 PM
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Currently, Manchester United is going through a lot of turmoil, in which the relationship between Erik ten Hag and Sancho has had many cracks. I know there are many problems between Ten Hag and Sancho. Things aren't just happening this season. Discord arose from last season. Sancho's extremely unprofessional training attitude is why Ten Hag is upset. As for Manchester United, it is said that they have not yet fulfilled their promise to midfielder Jadon Sancho after he joined the team from Dortmund in the 2021 summer transfer window.
There have been rumors about Manchester United being ready to sell him next winter.
The club is just so full of drama and all this drama won't reduce until their incompetent owners, Glaziers decides to finally leave the club, they keep having difficulties in selling players that not performing well for the club which is really affect the club growth, anyway i think Eric Ten Hag ran out of patients with the players under performance and decided to call him out, but instead of replying to the manager I expected Sancho to work hard and try to impress the coach just like every other player does, for instance Facundo Pellistri is becoming very impressive and is currently fit to be in the starting XI but still sitting on the bench and working more hard in training ground  to impress the manager that's one lad that's supposed to be complaining but he's not.
 Left for me i think he should be suspended for his actions so as to realize his mistakes and also know that no player is bigger than the club, if you notice since he moved to Manchester united he's not created much impact for the club or even played according to the figure they bought him

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September 13, 2023, 01:52:52 PM
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What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.
The hype was just too much on Onana when he was about to be signed, seeing him concede goals in almost every match played by Manchester United is discouraging, the only match in which he didn't concede any goal was against Wolves, which was their first match. But I don't really blame the goalkeeper, if a club's defense is poor, no matter how good a goalkeeper is, he will be conceding. If Manchester's defense is stronger, I am sure he will be conceding less in matches. Onana is a very good and talented goalkeeper. If Manchester United can work on their defense, then I am sure Onana will be able to perform better for them. I don't see any reason why he should be blamed currently.

That's the thing, the last one to be blamed here for the bad results that Manchester United had so far is the goalkeeper. They have some serious problems with their defense and I am not sure whether this will be solved quickly by Ten Haag. They have had these issues for quite some time now and all the results they had so far were not because of bad luck. It was because their team didn't work well enough for their defense. I think that this year will be even harder for them to finish top four.
We all know that one of the problems experienced by Manchester United is their fragile defense. They improved when they had a new duo, but the fact that they haven't performed consistently every game is a problem too. Now before the league starts and Onana joins the club it's a breath of fresh air for them, and Onana's arrival is also a situation where they have to lose De Gea who I think is still performing quite well.
Now is he (the goalkeeper) to blame when many concede but with a fragile defense? if many blame him I think it is unfair.

But De Gea was a risk factor sometimes. He has made mistakes too often and it was the type of mistakes that just can't happen. Every time I saw a defender passing the ball back to him, I kept my breath and thought ok, this is going to be the next fuck up by him.

But Onana is a good choice although I think that the defense in general hasn't been doing very well. I think when you have some weak players, it also makes everyone else less confident.

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September 13, 2023, 02:02:53 PM
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But De Gea was a risk factor sometimes. He has made mistakes too often and it was the type of mistakes that just can't happen. Every time I saw a defender passing the ball back to him, I kept my breath and thought ok, this is going to be the next fuck up by him.

But Onana is a good choice although I think that the defense in general hasn't been doing very well. I think when you have some weak players, it also makes everyone else less confident.

The decision has been taken by the club. United replaced De Gea with Onana. whether the performance looks good or not for United. but we can see that De Gea is old and must be replaced for United who will play a match with a tighter level of competition. Onana was brought in to be a solution. Ten Hag has a job to do to make United's defense strong.
I personally think the decision to bring in Onana was quite right. Even though he has now conceded 7 times, there is more important work for Ten Hag to complete. not in their goalkeeper. some players who make mistakes too often may have to be removed from the squad.


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September 13, 2023, 02:11:15 PM
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I would prefer to see arsenal used vieira instead of him. Vieira's contribution was real to the club while havertz was always wasting any opportunities that have been coming for him.
Despite being in a promising position in front of the goal net, Havertz failed to execute his final finishing on multiple occasions during matches against EPL clubs. Vieira is far better than him.
Arsenal paid him a lot for nothing. I think that this investment will not pay off.
Many of overrated ex-Chelsea's players are flopping when they joined other teams e.g. Jorginho, Mount, and Havertz. While other cheap players e.g. Kovacic and Pulisic are still able to survive in their new teams.

Arsenal still have many good quality players than Havertz, in center forward e.g. Jesus, Trossard and Nketiah, while midfielder they have Vieira.

Yes indeed, the former Chelsea player has poor judgment in his new team and yes, it is a disadvantage too of course. After all, they basically keep playing in the Premier League which at least, they don't need a long time to be able to adapt well in their new team in the Premier League too. But what happens is, they look like players who have just played in the Premier League. So, paying them at a high cost is certainly not worth the quality they have at this moment, because they also still cannot make a good contribution to their new team until this moment.

Well that's absolutely right, if in the end they still play in the Premier League then I think everyone will also agree as you say that adaptation is no longer a problem for them, but indeed adaptation to the new club is natural because it is also quite needed when they just come there inevitably have to adapt a little to various games and new strategies from the new manager. But yes, they just need to adapt a little to their new club, and it should be easy because they are not going anywhere they will just go back to playing in the Premier League but the difference is playing for their new club, so I think adaptation is not the right reason why their contribution is not as expected. and obviously for the team that has brought it with a fantastic number of fans like Arsenal it will definitely feel disadvantaged because obviously the contribution they make does not match the costs that have been spent by the club. Well right, looking at their performance they are like players who have just come to the Premier League, honestly I don't know what the reason is but maybe they still need a lot of time to be able to perform optimally? Yes we can only wait for a more precise reason from them for this problem.

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September 13, 2023, 02:11:46 PM
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Everton showed a lot of improvement in their last game against Sheffield United. They got the first goal and went down to two goals to one. But they fought hard to get the equalizer and secured the deserved one point. Although they have lost three last games before the draw, they can still surprise Arsenal. The Gunners is a good side but they have to be careful because, in the game of football, anything can happen.

There still haven't been many good changes for Everton this season through four games. Getting a draw in their last match against Sheffield United, Everton have still not shown any signs that they can pose a serious challenge when they face top teams like Arsenal this week.
In football, anything can happen, but to win against Arsenal, it will be difficult for them. The maximum result for them against Arsenal is probably a draw. More than that, I don't dare to assume because Arsenal this season is very ambitious to correct the mistakes that occurred last season in winning the title at the end of the season.

Out of 38 matches that Everton had in Premier League last season, they only manage to win 2 and draw 2 and that was how they luckily escape the relegation, should that mean they used 8 points velocity to overcome relegation, if not they will probably be out of Premier League this season and seeing them starting on a wrong foot the beginning of the season didn't surprise me either; Only time will tell if they will remain after the season or not because been here has not been fruitful for Everton.

Farhad Moshiri has seen Everton as unsuccessful business, no wonder they have been working hard to sell the club to 777 partners, if the deal go right, Everton is going to see a lot changes but if Jack Harrison the new manager is able to changes the performance of the team, who knows if he is going to make a change of plans since he just assumed office less than a month and seeing that he has a track record in Leed City, perhaps that will reflect here.

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I would prefer to see arsenal used vieira instead of him. Vieira's contribution was real to the club while havertz was always wasting any opportunities that have been coming for him.
Despite being in a promising position in front of the goal net, Havertz failed to execute his final finishing on multiple occasions during matches against EPL clubs. Vieira is far better than him.
Arsenal paid him a lot for nothing. I think that this investment will not pay off.
Many of overrated ex-Chelsea's players are flopping when they joined other teams e.g. Jorginho, Mount, and Havertz. While other cheap players e.g. Kovacic and Pulisic are still able to survive in their new teams.

Arsenal still have many good quality players than Havertz, in center forward e.g. Jesus, Trossard and Nketiah, while midfielder they have Vieira.

Yes indeed, the former Chelsea player has poor judgment in his new team and yes, it is a disadvantage too of course. After all, they basically keep playing in the Premier League which at least, they don't need a long time to be able to adapt well in their new team in the Premier League too. But what happens is, they look like players who have just played in the Premier League. So, paying them at a high cost is certainly not worth the quality they have at this moment, because they also still cannot make a good contribution to their new team until this moment.
In fact, they still have great potential to play at a high level, it's just that in my opinion the timing of them joining their new team was not right. Jorginho and Havertz certainly have different roles, but the Italian is being prepared as an alternative while Havertz still needs time and I think he will develop. Mount is also not in top condition, he is not at all burdened by playing at Manchester United, but his injury means he has to rest. Meanwhile, Kovacic plays with a team that is at a high level, it is not difficult for any player to play with Manchester City. Kovacic is a lucky man, he has always found the right team during his career.



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September 13, 2023, 02:25:34 PM
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But De Gea was a risk factor sometimes. He has made mistakes too often and it was the type of mistakes that just can't happen. Every time I saw a defender passing the ball back to him, I kept my breath and thought ok, this is going to be the next fuck up by him.

But Onana is a good choice although I think that the defense in general hasn't been doing very well. I think when you have some weak players, it also makes everyone else less confident.
The decision has been taken by the club. United replaced De Gea with Onana. whether the performance looks good or not for United. but we can see that De Gea is old and must be replaced for United who will play a match with a tighter level of competition. Onana was brought in to be a solution. Ten Hag has a job to do to make United's defense strong.
I personally think the decision to bring in Onana was quite right. Even though he has now conceded 7 times, there is more important work for Ten Hag to complete. not in their goalkeeper. some players who make mistakes too often may have to be removed from the squad.

De Gea is a good enough goalkeeper I know that. He is experienced. But Onana is not a bad goalkeeper. And the decision to add Onana was the right one. Onana may not be as experienced as De Gea. Even so, Onana's performance is not worse than De Gea's. Manchester United conceded 7 goals in 4 matches. Onana is not the only one to blame for this. Manchester United have tactical weaknesses. At the same time, the weakness of their defense has been very well visible in every match. Ten Hag should deal with Manchester United's defence. If the defense is not strong, this team cannot stay on top of the points table.

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Manchester City might end up winning the match, but it won’t be an easy win for Manchester City just as you said. West Ham shouldn’t be underestimated as they are currently performing well, and I am sure they will do everything possible to stop Manchester City from winning them. But no matter the effort put by West Ham, I don’t think they will be able to defeat Manchester City, I don't think that will be possible for them. Manchester City haven't lost any match or drawn any match since the season started, so they won't want their match against West Ham to be the first match, they will do everything to win, but I am not expecting much goal difference in the match.
The lack of a plenty goal difference you’re envisioning in this game already indicates that the game will be difficult to know the winner. West Ham have been amazing, and I can't laud them enough after winning three games and drawing only one since the season began. Manchester City will have to tread carefully in this match since West Ham can infiltrate any team, and I don't think Manchester City will be an exception. If West Ham can win, tie, or give Manchester City more time before winning, they will be feared more by young teams and will easily take three points.
West Ham United is having one of the best start in this season with this match is surely going to have big impact on league table and both teams consistency and performance even right now absence of KDB is having big problem for the Manchester City as they are completely failed to have enough chances and goal which is surely not ideal situation Manchester City having hard fought win against Sheffield United in last game with this level of performance we can give some advantage to West Ham but still it has never been easy for both teams to have some positive from this match.

For me most chances we will have close drawn game because I am feeling West Ham United still have plenty of support and quality which allow them to stand against Manchester City which is unbeaten in this season.

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September 13, 2023, 02:48:13 PM
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De Gea is a good enough goalkeeper I know that. He is experienced. But Onana is not a bad goalkeeper. And the decision to add Onana was the right one. Onana may not be as experienced as De Gea. Even so, Onana's performance is not worse than De Gea's. Manchester United conceded 7 goals in 4 matches. Onana is not the only one to blame for this. Manchester United have tactical weaknesses. At the same time, the weakness of their defense has been very well visible in every match. Ten Hag should deal with Manchester United's defence. If the defense is not strong, this team cannot stay on top of the points table.
There's alot to handle in Old Trafford, Erik Ten Hag working on that and hopes to fixed these issues in immediate time given. Manchester United will improved with time, the coach have the best players to handle, all what they needs is just time to progress and adapt. Erik Ten Hag made the right decision when he signed Andre Onana from Inter Milan. He's the first choice of united and have made both crucial saves and blunders in league games, perhaps the Red Devils are having challenging moments and weaknesses are open to their opponents. 

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Last season Everton struggled to avoid the relegation zone. And at the start of this season, it seems like Everton is having difficulty getting points and difficulty to avoiding the relegation zone. From 4 matches, Everton has experienced 3 defeats and only 1 draw. I think it is a worse result from Everton than last season. Because at least last season Everton started the season not too bad. And in the Arsenal vs Everton match, I think Everton was just trying to survive. But Arsenal will definitely attack with full strength and get full points. I also think that Arsenal will win quite easily.

It would be difficult game, mostly for Everton as they face Arsenal this weekend. The performance put forward by Everton hasn’t been impressive so far. Having barely survived being relegated due to having played poorly last season, they’re starting this season with a not so impressive performance.
Arsenal is seemingly the stronger side of the two and are favorites to win but I wouldn’t underrate Everton as well. Playing at home might make such an impression on Everton and combined some renewed vigor that they may surprise everyone and come of this game with the three points.

So far, what I know is that Arsenal is far superior to Everton (in the standing), especially when looking at their H2H record, Arsenal has won 3 matches with Everton, although only by a small margin, but that is enough to prove Arsenal superiority.
It's not wrong that currently Arsenal is the favorite team, its not certain, but I am sure Arsenal will win the league match this time so they dont lose any point. Moreover, currently he has Declan Rice, who he bought in the last transfer window for a large fee. Declan Rice himself has shown his performance since join in Arsenal
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I don't think Salah will act like other players that left their team to Saudi Arabia team just because of huge amount of money that is involved without consider the relationship with their coach, which I believe Salah will not do such a thing to Liverpool coach in this season. I know Salah will not remain in Liverpool forever, because he will like to join other teams to prove himself to be among the best strikers in the whole world by doing what other strikers are doing to help their team to bear a good name in their time. Well, Napoli strikers are very good, I think khvicha Kvaratskhelia will definitely handle that position very well when Salah is no longer available in Liverpool.
Why not? Benzema is good, yet he left Real Madrid. Kante is good, yet he left Chelsea. Neymar is good, yet he left PSG.

Salah already own so many trophies with Liverpool, there's no chance for him to get Ballon d'Or and World Cup because he just can't. There's nothing he can get anymore, since he's getting older, he must know if making money is better and his body will not always fit.

Next year, Salah will leave Liverpool.

You are correct that there are players who are better than Sallah and who leave their team to play for Saudi Arabia, but I don't believe Sallah will depart from Liverpool so soon. Sallah is the best player at Liverpool and is the team's favourite because they never want him to leave. Even this season, Saudi Arabians offered him a sizable sum of money that would have changed his life, but he turned them down because he still wants to play for Liverpool. Even if Sallah has won numerous times, other players have not been successful in their careers, therefore it would be beneficial if Sallah used his remaining opportunities to make money so that even as he ages, he could continue to enjoy life and his family.

Players who leave their team and relocate to Saudi Arabia are aware that the Saudi Arabia League will change their lives, but I believe that if sallah leaves Liverpool, it will have an impact on the team's performance because Liverpool lacked a good player who could fill sallah's current position, and even if they find someone to fill it, it won't be the same as it was with sallah there. As an illustration, consider how sadio mane's departure from Liverpool affected the team.so you think if sallah leave Liverpool it will not even worst than before?

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