[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[BitcoinNational]

John Williams, Jim Willie, Jim Rickards ... why I think we might just be a financially informed crowd here.

We should get one of these cats to except UN for their news letters.

"I am responsible for my own navigation."

+200

"I've lived through a few recessions already, does that count as research?  I'm raising a family, paying bills and putting food on the table is real world economics."

+300

The collective common sense is strong here. 

[IMZ]

Woo hoo! Looks like we're gonna revamp Distributed-Vault Coin. All holders will be contacted.

m

[IMZ]

Trade 67: 25 Uno for .3825 Bic -- discounted Uno.

Let there be Project Hoover!

[TrueCryptonaire]

Wait a second, what is wrong with buying guns and precious metals? Ammo is a great new currency. You got .22's like pennies then you got some 380s, then 9s, go to the 40s and 45s, up to the 223 and 556s. It all scales so well. The guns help me secure my own future without having to rely upon someone else to 'save' me. Sorry. The people in the military have families too, as do cops and such. I don't expect anyone to risk their lives to save my life. Hell, if i got my self into the mess, i should be able to get my self outta it. If not, my own damn fault.


The bigger question is, does it even matter. What the fuck are we to do with that pile of cash anyway?

Nothing is wrong with buying ammos and guns.
The only thing I personally do not understand is the fear aspect that some people have (I am not saying anyone here has it but I have seen some Youtube vids that are unrealistically pessimistic in that sense).

[TrueCryptonaire]

Trade 67: 25 Uno for .3825 Bic -- discounted Uno.

Let there be Project Hoover!

Looks like there is spring cleaning going on. 

[IMZ]

I am gonna bust my hump over this one, T.C. As I am physically restricted to almost literally a cell by poor health, I can 'lift' at regular intervals through the day all those 'dust-bids,' and channel them to Un-Ex. It will take a while to have real affect; but within six months, if Un-Ex is known to be an exchange where you can buy 'packets' of ever-rarer Unobtanium, then energy and funds will flow unto it.

'Community-Driven Big Ideas'

Another exchange in trouble: http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2x0q6p/yet_another_scam/

[BitcoinNational]

+11

"you can buy packets on UnEx"
    5kg, 10kg, 25kg, 100kg

@True
"I personally do not understand is the fear aspect that some people have"
Nor do I, in clear language on the Bill of Rights, you are entitled to hold.  
but this is still kinda of a Xtopic like wacky tobaccy ...

[Korlic]

Precious metals are becoming sort of an oxymoron in my opinion. What's so precious about gold? It serves a purpose in some electronics, but so does copper and other cheaper metals. You say it has scarcity? Only temporarily. We could extract more from earth but it isn't even that profitable anymore now that Cryptos are on the scene. If you want to collect something physical that is  considered "precious" with intrinsic value, look into rare minerals.


Once cryptos become a little more mainstream, I'm thinking UNO could easily integrate with the precious mineral community.

I realize this comes off as a bit crazy, but when you consider the innovation around 3d printers, we're looking at a world where just about anything can be produced with ease, except for a few things such as minerals and Cryptos.

[BitcoinNational]

@Korlic

Principle idea is the first/core investors in UNO also back the value with held assets ... physical being the best because you 'hold it' in hand so to speak.

PMs are the easiest to buy/sell.  Hold a long history of trade.
Any metal is good if you can hold it.  Aluminum, Iron, Copper, Nickel, Platinum or Lead.

Integrate with the precious mineral community?
Why not?  Rare Earths too.

Also real estate and sound stocks if that is your thing.

Even farmers would be great to have on board.
So cattle, timber, grains, seeds, coffee, chickens, perhaps Emus and pedigree Beagles;)

I am a big fan of 3d printers too.  Let it be so, if you find a good project bring that baby here.

Also small business loans for women in 'unbanked' nations is on the table.

This is where side chains and side coins come into play.
They can be backed (under written in UN) but trade independently.
 

[bitcoinicon]

Hey Guys,

It would be cool if we could help this new pool get some Un hasharate http://pool.digitalgold.co/

Anonymous mining, No email address needed and paid straight to your wallet address.

I dug a dusty Block Erupter Cube up to help keep the Un hashrate looking busy but could use some backup please!

The pool is already listed on the thread also.

http://pool.digitalgold.co/

Cheers

Bitcoinicon

[IanRidgwell]

Thought this comment was an interesting idea from CoinDesk's weekly Bitcoin overview:

The author implies that bitcoin could potentially lead to a more fair society, but in order to achieve this goal, "a user agreement must be put into place by the developers to prevent bitcoins from being exchangeable with real money".

He noted:

"From the moment it is exchangeable with money, bitcoin loses its independent utility yet another tradable commodity that contributes to the unequal interest-based money system. Let bitcoins be redeemable only for their value as electronic bits of currency for the mutually beneficial exchange of goods and services."

I can't see any system in which this can work. I once Joked that what we need to offer Miners who aren't making enough money is hookers and blow jobs, to help alleviate the mining cost vs reward scenario without getting fiat and pegging involved. Someone quickly pointed out that you can value the fiat value of such services and even expect to see a black market in Mining Contract hookers and blow for Fiat. The only way Bitcoin can become independent from fiat is to eliminate fiat from the ecosystem, a utopian concept in my mind and a waste of energy pursuing.

[sirsmokesalot]

Nothing is wrong with buying ammos and guns.
The only thing I personally do not understand is the fear aspect that some people have (I am not saying anyone here has it but I have seen some Youtube vids that are unrealistically pessimistic in that sense).

Lol alright, i think half of it is the romanticized idea of the good ol days of self reliance. I think that fear aspect comes more to people who are sorta control freaks to begin with. At least that is where it stems from for me. Not that i am afraid of what will happen, i just don't trust that the feds are going to be there to help me when i need it. It makes no logical sense that someone would help someone else when they themselves need help as well. I am not a believer like that. Not in god, not in man.

Thought this comment was an interesting idea from CoinDesk's weekly Bitcoin overview:

The author implies that bitcoin could potentially lead to a more fair society, but in order to achieve this goal, "a user agreement must be put into place by the developers to prevent bitcoins from being exchangeable with real money".

He noted:

"From the moment it is exchangeable with money, bitcoin loses its independent utility yet another tradable commodity that contributes to the unequal interest-based money system. Let bitcoins be redeemable only for their value as electronic bits of currency for the mutually beneficial exchange of goods and services."

I can't see any system in which this can work. I once Joked that what we need to offer Miners who aren't making enough money is hookers and blow jobs, to help alleviate the mining cost vs reward scenario without getting fiat and pegging involved. Someone quickly pointed out that you can value the fiat value of such services and even expect to see a black market in Mining Contract hookers and blow for Fiat. The only way Bitcoin can become independent from fiat is to eliminate fiat from the ecosystem, a utopian concept in my mind and a waste of energy pursuing.

Lol, +1. Fiat is going no where. Not unless the country fails, then it dissolves along with that nation. Fiat is the blood of nations, it is how they exist and operate. If anything all this crypto stuff has just drawn the parallels for me between how nations run fiats and how a lot of these coins operate. How do you monetize a nation? You have them produce something that is hard to get, or produce it so well that it is THE thing to have, then make it so it is only obtainable with X currency. Now people have to either work for X currency, steal it, or do what ever to obtain it, but they need X to get to Y. Eventually you lure more people in by giving stuff away and snag their asses in the bear trap as well. It is the capitalist dream i suppose.

Fiat is just a rep system for life. It allows people to feel like they are more important than others because after all, they make 10 times the hourly amount that others make. If they weren't 10 times more important, why would they be paid ten times as much?  It was religion before people had monetized it. Those more pious than others got away with the most. Those with more fiat than others get away with the most. Things are getting better, but we still have a loooooooooooooooong way to go.

[BitcoinNational]

Fiat is going no where. Not unless the country fails, then it dissolves along with that nation.

true-ish

We're the cutting edge of folks opting to hold crypto VS. bank credits
(this differs from bank notes in hand -- paper fiat)

One good thing about BTC is that it is the lead force in creating facilities (companies) that allow one to shift from crypto to cash (via ATMs) or bank credits (via fiat exchange houses).

[FallingKnife]

Precious metals are becoming sort of an oxymoron in my opinion. What's so precious about gold? It serves a purpose in some electronics, but so does copper and other cheaper metals. You say it has scarcity? Only temporarily. We could extract more from earth but it isn't even that profitable anymore now that Cryptos are on the scene. If you want to collect something physical that is  considered "precious" with intrinsic value, look into rare minerals.


Once cryptos become a little more mainstream, I'm thinking UNO could easily integrate with the precious mineral community.

I realize this comes off as a bit crazy, but when you consider the innovation around 3d printers, we're looking at a world where just about anything can be produced with ease, except for a few things such as minerals and Cryptos.

Interesting thought.  

Yes, Uno is not easily reproduced.

UNO encompasses several inherent assets, and longevity is among them.  The longer there is a community that values Uno, I see that as a vetting process, a reduction of risk. Longevity can only be earned one day at a time.  A crypto launched yesterday has a lot of risk; one launched in 2013, less risk.

[IMZ]

"The only thing I personally do not understand is the fear aspect that some people have . . . "

I spent 23 months as a conflict journalist on the bleeding edge of an insurrection.

Fear now; fare better later.

m

And: great quality of discussion on the last couple of pages.

[IMZ]

@ Korlic:

"Once cryptos become a little more mainstream, I'm thinking UNO could easily integrate with the precious mineral community."

You are a TT. We would welcome your help with both the Distributed-Vault Coin Project and our crypto-for-bullion experiments.

It's now!

 

[cryptapus]

Greetings!

A quick note. I have altered my fork of the vanitygen software used to create vanity addresses. New instructions can be found here:

https://cryptap.us/uno/vanity.html

No problems with the old code, just updated to be more general purpose.

Note that I still have a link to the original windows executable. If a new one is created let me know and I will update the link.

[FallingKnife]

[Jelks]

Hey Guys,

It would be cool if we could help this new pool get some Un hasharate http://pool.digitalgold.co/

Anonymous mining, No email address needed and paid straight to your wallet address.

I dug a dusty Block Erupter Cube up to help keep the Un hashrate looking busy but could use some backup please!

The pool is already listed on the thread also.

http://pool.digitalgold.co/

Cheers

Bitcoinicon

@Bitcoinicon, I tried your pool last night (miningpool.co, which I was using until a few days ago, has gone down and it seems it will stay down this time unfortunately -- I liked it) but got stymied.

I went into my desktop wallet, created a new address for the label "pool.DigitalGold.co", expecting to be able to tell your pool, "Hey, send my UNO to *this* address".

So I then went to your site and tried the "Your Wallet Address (Get One Here)" -- it seemed like the only way to do it.  Went through the process, down through the "importprivkey ..." (which I believe gave me an error).

So I went back to *my* wallet and tried to edit the DigitalGold address, using the one "given" by your site, thinking I could try the "importprivkey ..." again after doing so. 

No can do.  You can only edit the Label in the local wallet, not the Address (at least as far as I can see).

So here's the thing -- your site gives YOU an UNO address that you can't change to point to your local wallet, and the local wallet gives you an address you can't edit to accept UNO from your pool.

I'm sure I'm missing something, but I don't know what it is.

[Asides:
On purely a UI note, I think you should fix the scroll bars and maybe even the window popup itself on the "Get One Here" link.  I find it clumsy, at least on Chrome (didn't try any other browsers.
Also, I've used an anonymous pool before, Elygius I think -- it's Bitcoin, not UNO], and it was a lot less geeky to set up than DigitalGold FWIW.]

[Jelks]

@FallingKnife, I could have sworn you mentioned in a post over on CryptoCoinTalk a pool that had agreed to the merge mining thing with UNO, BTC, NMC (and I think something else) if/whenever merge mining comes to fruition, but I couldn't find it after trying all kinds of searches.  

If so, what was the pool's name, and does it currently offer pure UNO mining as well?

Speaking of, any ETA on merge mining?  Are we waiting for Blazr2 to reappear and chime in?

I'm psyched for it.