[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[BitcoinNational]

VPN is worth maybe $1M
it instantly going bigger than the Unity mothership of NXT is a luna moment of madness
any cool feature of btcd/vrc/vpn will eventually be rolled into the NXT wallet  

[learminer]

Features are only ever a small part of the overall picture that is the value of a cryptocurrency. Interesting how we're now suddenly right in the middle of a new alt-hypecycle and many coins, some expected and others seemingly at random, pump at the same time. UNO is not moving an inch, but so are several other even higher profile alts. Wonder what that means...

[siameze]

Features are only ever a small part of the overall picture that is the value of a cryptocurrency. Interesting how we're now suddenly right in the middle of a new alt-hypecycle and many coins, some expected and others seemingly at random, pump at the same time. UNO is not moving an inch, but so are several other even higher profile alts. Wonder what that means...

Stability I hope. Wild price swings are what deter a lot of ordinary users from investing. There isn't a terrible amount of that happening with UNO and a handful of other coins.

[The Frisian]

There's a bunch of coins getting pumped right now.  
We've seen this "group pump" action before.

Shouldn't the Doge pump has something to do with the massive Doge buys on cryptsy during the Dead End game.

[learminer]

@siameze huh, stability in a market pegged primarily against BTC is pretty much impossible at this point. Maybe 5 years from now, who knows?

Against the dollar UNO has actually been relatively stable, coincidence? I guess for an altcoin trading withing in a +/-50% range around $3 for the past 2 years isn't horrible (compared to coins swinging wildly between extremes of -95%/+1000% in such a timeframe). But not great either, as UNO has slowly but consistently lost ground for over half a year now. Against the Dollar, BTC and other alts.

That might sound a lot more negative than I intended, so let me put that into perspective. Considering UNO went trough a parabolic pump in february it was obvious price had to go down after the brief peak above $4. IMO the excellent fundamentals of UNO saved it form an even darker fate. Price seemed to have found a nice equilibrium in the $3 - $2 range, UNO traded there (.009 - .012 BTC) for almost half a year after things had calmed down. That was indeed remarkable stability. I had a good feeling about the market then. I don't know what went wrong, but sometime in late August someone poked a hole into the market and it has been deflating ever since.

I do seriously think UNO is overdue for an upwards correction in price. Not some crazy ass pump please, but I think in the current environment UNO should be trading at least double of its current valuation, if not a little more. Call me a fanboy.

[balu2]

If you want to see the light try getting on btc38 or jubi.com!!! 

[BitcoinCharlie]

If you want to see the light try getting on btc38 or jubi.com!!! 

I don't know these exchanges. Is it possible to make a donation to get listed?

[timpeff]

Hey guys.
I can't get my wallet to sync....its stuck at 20 weeks
I tried to add some of the nodes mentioned in the previous pages but still stuck.
Anyone else having this issue or know a solution?
Thanks

[SgtMoth]

If you want to see the light try getting on btc38 or jubi.com!!! 

I don't know these exchanges. Is it possible to make a donation to get listed?

jubi seems to have given zetacoin some life.

[FallingKnife]

@siameze huh, stability in a market pegged primarily against BTC is pretty much impossible at this point. Maybe 5 years from now, who knows?

Against the dollar UNO has actually been relatively stable, coincidence? I guess for an altcoin trading withing in a +/-50% range around $3 for the past 2 years isn't horrible (compared to coins swinging wildly between extremes of -95%/+1000% in such a timeframe). But not great either, as UNO has slowly but consistently lost ground for over half a year now. Against the Dollar, BTC and other alts.

That might sound a lot more negative than I intended, so let me put that into perspective. Considering UNO went trough a parabolic pump in february it was obvious price had to go down after the brief peak above $4. IMO the excellent fundamentals of UNO saved it form an even darker fate. Price seemed to have found a nice equilibrium in the $3 - $2 range, UNO traded there (.009 - .012 BTC) for almost half a year after things had calmed down. That was indeed remarkable stability. I had a good feeling about the market then. I don't know what went wrong, but sometime in late August someone poked a hole into the market and it has been deflating ever since.

I do seriously think UNO is overdue for an upwards correction in price. Not some crazy ass pump please, but I think in the current environment UNO should be trading at least double of its current valuation, if not a little more. Call me a fanboy.

Cryptsy's situation derailed the recovery.    There are some of us here who, seeing 15k of Uno in limbo at Crypsy and having watched about 20k drain away since November, are soaking it up as cheap as we can, cost averaging down from the the buys we made at 01, 007, 005, etc. It's not that they want the price to be cheap, or are manipulating it down; but what else can you do in the short term when there is this uncertainty and patience is being rewarded by dumps like we saw yesterday down to 00275?

Even with all it is going through, and the recent bitcoin big rally up from the low $200's, look at what just 10 btc  could do to the price.   This time next week, about 20 pumped coins that are ahead of Uno on CMC today will fall well below Uno.

I expected Cryptsy to open the Uno wallet by now, but it looks like they've gone dark now.  Not a word since they opened a few wallets and promised to open others.

On another note, does anyone remember that flash crash on Cryptsy in 2014, when it sold down instantly to like zero?  I have been trying to find that discussion in this thread, but I haven't been able to. I'd love to find the date of that crash, which Cryptsy promptly reversed.

[RDDRocket]

You're not going to pump this coin without quickly getting stopped or losing. No supply, those of us holding at least 500 coins or more would sell a few when/if they start getting the price over double or triple. I think it'll more naturally rise, even if it jumps up to $5+ in short order. This far in, I don't mind holding a ton or more basically indefinitely, long term. Try to get the supply, I mean really. There has to be a better reason for why all these shitty alts have pumped 20% and well beyond and UNO hasn't risen hardly at all. They can't find it worth pumping or not pumpable when they didn't already have a supply of it for dirt cheap.  

[BitcoinNational]

I don't mind holding a ton or more basically indefinitely, long term. Try to get the supply, I mean really. There has to be a better reason for why all these shitty alts have pumped 20% and well beyond and UNO hasn't risen hardly at all. They can't find it worth pumping or not pumpable when they didn't already have a supply of it for dirt cheap.  

Funny thing about UNO.

a)  Great idea from the start.  Fair & Rare POW project.  That makes UNO a first to move/do it.  So we can put a checkmark in the innovation box.

b)  UNO got better when the security of MM was forked into the mix.

c)  First/Fair/Rare/Secure ... Most people fail to see that value proposition ... but they will ... cuz we are on one of the last great pumps of  "shitty alts" ... and they aren't even that bad it is just that far superior products (uno and a few others) are out there still being ignored.  But the trend will be finding real value, and 99% of crypto traders will avoid P-n-D ... cuz been there/done that 99 times ... the difference between the end of 2014 and the end of 2015 market cap boards is a good indicator that the market is getting better at evaluating real value and punishing the inferior/fake assets.  Year 2016 is going to be about solidifying the bluechips and identifying functional DAC enterprises.  And eventually that means they see the UN

d)  Go ahead pump UNO, then you'll discover what a unique thing it really is, and you may pump it, but you will find it hard to dump it  

e)  Need more?  I was hooked on fair and rare.  Most of the regulars were too.  Vetted ... FK ... promotes this ... UNO has been on the landscape since 2013 ... we've got the charts ... they only keep getting better ... don't believe me ... no need to "trust us" ... the data is out there ... read the charts run the numbers ... trust that.

f)  Base Pair

[edgar]

quite a lot more cryptsy wallets opened for withdrawal yesterday (27th Jan) - UNO isnt one of them, sadly

[BitcoinNational]

quite a lot more cryptsy wallets opened for withdrawal yesterday (27th Jan) - UNO isnt one of them, sadly

I saw that too.

Vern burned me good on a few crap coins.  But they were in long term lock up since forever, so risky stuff, and I was going long that Cryptsy was too-big-too-fail and would eventually get to repairing their low volume coin wallets.  In the end I just had to dump and exit.  

But UNO community was among the first to spot and call out possible insolvent issues.  Any responsible UNO investor pulled out.  And we have the numbers to show massive drainage did indeed occur.

Which begs the question ... Who then owns that lot left behind?

Also Vern locking up a wallet that was previously open is suspect too.  

postulation:
A)  Vern is stealing that leftover UNO
or
B)  Someone stole some UNO from Vern but he was able to maintain fractional reserves until the end (recall the double spends)
or
C)  It belongs to him or other insiders (Vern was the Mega wallet and making payouts from his reserve to cover any hacked balances)
or
D)  All the above

Another odd thing is the bitebi9 market ... UNO is already popular there In fact nearly all the bitebi9 market coins are locked up.  

^{edit:  mean compare Cryptsy 'still' locked coins and coins listed on bi9 (which also are ALL Cry coins but edited to the better traded/capitalized kind)}

[natmccoy]

What do you mean "nearly all the bitebi9 market coins are locked up"?

[balu2]

If you want to see the light try getting on btc38 or jubi.com!!!  

I don't know these exchanges. Is it possible to make a donation to get listed?

If you look at what coins had the biggest gains this week - they are all listed on these exchanges. Had 90% their volume their. That's where china buys their alts aparently.

I don't know if they take bribes but maybe it's already enough to bring Uno to their attention. Maybe offer them a small bribe in Uno (not btc) so they can play aswell?
Worth a try maybe. The chinese exchanges is where all the money is floating in currently. We want exposure, i think.  

[BitcoinNational]

Or stock pile the coins they like as they start to dip after the pump.  Place them on the UNO order books.  Either China comes to us, or some arb guys fill the gaps.  

If you want to pursue one China exchange >>  btc38 << there is an English menu (version).

But personally after seeing they require you to use Facebook to verify I said, NOPE!
To each thier own, just not for me.

I like the concept of SAK as entry/exit to Jubi, but I can't find the ENG button over there, and I still not sure about the legitimacy of SAK, but if we can get a liquid SAK/UNO trade, well then there's that too.

I'd throw in for a 'salaried' bilingual to bridge the language barrier and help get access to the listing procedure.  

Also bitebi9 is likely going to be a legit operation, still fuzzy and cautious for the time being, but that gets the UN trading in CNY  

[cryptapus]

Hey guys.
I can't get my wallet to sync....its stuck at 20 weeks
I tried to add some of the nodes mentioned in the previous pages but still stuck.
Anyone else having this issue or know a solution?
Thanks

What client are you using? You need to be on version 0.10 or greater.

[deadlock1]

0.002 as predicted by me  

Now, where are we standing?

[BitcoinNational]

0.002 as predicted by me  

make it rain brother
happy to dine @ 0.002

---
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365399.0
UNC

for some reason i like UNB which seems to be a broken chain that refuses to break ...   ^{*if slow very slow is broken}
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=UNB_UNO