Police Raids and kids involving spider betting.

[erikoy]

Even with pandemic gamblers are itching to bet violating the social gathering and other protocols like proper wearing of facemask to observe minimum health protection. This is why police officers here in our place are actively monitoring not only for cock fighting, cards game and this one spider betting.

Spider betting is the new trend of gambling here in our place. This is inspired by the kids who were active on this as sort of playing letting spiders to fight. This is really not a fun to see for others but here in our place when big events and higher bets happen, the viewers will tend to shout and cheers for the spider they bet. The venue will seem to be lively that this event could eventually reach to the authorities.

The only problem with this kind of gambling is that kids do involve in betting at young age. Since betting is very affordable to them that they can afford after looking for some spiders and sold it to a gambler in a cheaper price then the proceeds of the sale will then be use to gamble by these kids age 9-16 Y.O. The good thing is that whenever they caught to prison since the kids are protected by law under the age of 17 and below the will be set free after their parents made some arrangement to the police officers.

Because of these event, the authority now conduct a constant monitoring and raids here in our place. The good thing is that betting still continue and police officers can't do anything about it except constant monitoring and doing raids. After a certain raids spider betting will then resume and happiness together in sider fight and betting will remain. So sad, LOL.

What can you say about this? Are we really that hard headed or just love spider betting?



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[Janation]

I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

[Twinkledoe]

What area /country is this? You forgot to mention OP. Also, if you have the article link on what you are talking about here, would be great.

Okay. I got the news article here.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1174536/4-arrested-as-spider-fights-gain-following-as-a-form-of-gambling

But it was last year, and no pandemic yet at that time. Wonder if they have spider betting during this pandemic? Parents should be responsible with their kids though.

[semobo]

Gambling and betting for fun both are similar to the government but when kids does this inside their house or somewhere close to it then no one is going to identify it.And if this kind of gathering and betting goes against the laws then the kids also should face the legal actions for juvenile crimes.

[bitzizzix]

Such spider fights have been around for a long time and in the area where I live are used as children's toys like big black ants fighting in small boxes that children play with.
And it happens in the interior and for their entertainment without betting, and this game is not to the death, only to retreat or dodge and lose and it's all for their entertainment.

[UmerIdrees]

Such spider fights have been around for a long time and in the area where I live are used as children's toys like big black ants fighting in small boxes that children play with.
and it happened in the interior and for their entertainment without betting, and the match did not come to an end just by retreating or dodging when losing and it was all just for their entertainment.

The spiders are just too small creatures and i do not understand how they make them fight. I don't find anything entertaining in this fight either.
Don't they have something better to do than watch the spiders fight and bet on them 

[rhomelmabini]

As I thought this was in the Philippines, too many hardheaded people especially when it comes to gambling they are always feeling the urge even when it is restricted  fully by the government. I don't think those children should be there but I think they are related to the people whom been on that site when they got raided.

[pakhitheboss]

This is the first time I reading about Spider betting, I am now interested to see how it actually happens? I know people can bet on anything but getting kids involved in gambling is bad. These culprits should be punished and they should serve some term behind the bars. I am not sure what the law in your country states but the situation in your region is pretty bad.

[sunsilk]

It is not an excuse to do something against the law because of your passion. These kids might not be aware of that law as they are still kids and doesn't search what's in the rules or law about gambling at a young age but about ignorance of the law, there's a saying about it.

If this is the first time, they can be warned and be fined with an amount that their parents afford to pay or whichever amount that's based and indicated by the law.

[Yaunfitda]

Do you have experience betting in a spider fight?.

Not just spiders but ants as well: Would you bet on an insect fight?

It's rampant in the Philippines, specially in the provinces because this is their past time. I even read that this sports is also well known inside prisons there and it involved huge amount of money. I guess you can't really stop gamblers, in whichever shape and form they will simply find a way to gamble even in the pandemic.

[virasog]

It is not an excuse to do something against the law because of your passion. These kids might not be aware of that law as they are still kids and doesn't search what's in the rules or law about gambling at a young age but about ignorance of the law, there's a saying about it.

If this is the first time, they can be warned and be fined with an amount that their parents afford to pay or whichever amount that's based and indicated by the law.

If the kids were not aware of this , the parents and guardians should be held responsible. If you give them only warning, this trend will continue and everyone will exclude themselves by saying that they do not know the rules of the country/area. Their parents should be heavenly fined so no one care dare do this again.

[hilariousetc]

Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that? Why don't they just flip a coin or throw coins against a wall? That's what we used to do at school. Apparently it's called pitching pennies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitching_pennies

Any number of players line up a fixed distance away from a wall. The players each take a coin of common denomination and take turns throwing them towards the wall. The objective is to throw the coins such that they land as close to the wall as possible. Rolling the coin is forbidden. Some forms of the game require the coin to hit the wall to be a valid throw.

In most variations this is a gambling game, with the winner collecting all the losing players' coins from the ground. Other variations include the game ending in "tips", where the player whose coin lands closest to the wall collects all of the coins, shakes them up in their hands and flicks them all into the air. Before the coins land, the player would shout "heads" or "tails" and be entitled to claim those coins landing the corresponding way. The remaining coins (if any) would then be gathered by the player whose coin landed second closest to the wall, who would repeat the throwing and calling of heads or tails. This process would continue until all the coins have been picked up. This variation allows players who have not landed too close to the wall still being able to win some coins.

At least there's a bit of skill involved which adds to the fun.

[reliable]

Gambling and betting for fun both are similar to the government but when kids does this inside their house or somewhere close to it then no one is going to identify it.And if this kind of gathering and betting goes against the laws then the kids also should face the legal actions for juvenile crimes.

It is also a serious issues because this is the age of them to study, play different games and enjoy without thinking about gambling or anything related to money to bet on since they are underage and surely either parents were not taking care of their child, or this guys are really smart to escape from them and gamble it. They will now have to face the laws and this may affect their future career as well.

[acroman08]

Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that? Why don't they just flip a coin or throw coins against a wall? That's what we used to do at school. Apparently it's called pitching pennies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitching_pennies

not really, just like any other animal betting(i.e. cockfight, horse race, etc..) orb-weaver spider have different types of breeds which have their own strength and weaknesses. I understand if you don't get the thrill but I remember having fun doing it, especially when catching it because some of them are really hard to find. I know it's cruel but was part of my childhood.

I used to play this as a kid and yes we gamble on it too, the only difference is we are the ones catching the spiders and only the owners of the spider can bet in the game. I remember having a tournament too and we use different spider per round and whoever wins the tournament get the total amount on the pot.

[TopTort777]

It is not an excuse to do something against the law because of your passion.

If one kid says that he will run faster to other house than you and will pay you 10$ if you win, or you will pay him 5$ if he wins, does it count as gambling or betting and against the law?

I’m sure these kids done this just as a competition and dont have any intend to earn on betting.

[iv4n]

When I was a kid we had the same game, instead boxes we build a playground from the wet sand, like towers and all that, and then we catch as many spiders as we can, and we put all of them in that sand castle. When I was a kid we didn't have computers and all that stuff, we played outside, and when you get out on the street there's a bunch of kids, younger and older. We didn't place any bets on this, we did it for fun and we didn't know for better I guess, I can call that as trying out new interesting stuff, what kids knows, right?
Now I wouldn't do something like that, I like to believe I am older and wiser! There're noble sports to bet on, why to choose to bet on animal fights, I think of that as something very cruel! And in this story I understand kids, they are experimenting, every kid passes trough that stage, but older people should have more knowledge, they should know better!

[JohnBitCo]

It is not an excuse to do something against the law because of your passion.

If one kid says that he will run faster to other house than you and will pay you 10$ if you win, or you will pay him 5$ if he wins, does it count as gambling or betting and against the law?

I’m sure these kids done this just as a competition and dont have any intend to earn on betting.

Even if we believe that it was not betting and just a game, even then you can't play a game where you make a living creature fights and play games on who dies first. In some countries , it is even bigger crime. Same case is with the cock fighting which involve blood

[gadado]

Lol betting on spiders. I don't understand why people bet on this because isn't it just completely random who wins so it's 50/50? What's the thrill in that? Why don't they just flip a coin or throw coins against a wall? That's what we used to do at school. Apparently it's called pitching pennies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitching_pennies

Betting on either of the spider and see them fight the I think the thrill is when you see your chosen spider beating the other spider more like a cock fighting or maybe a boxing game for them about the pitching pennies it's really good I tried that before.

[kryptqnick]

The only problem with this kind of gambling is that kids do involve in betting at young age. Since betting is very affordable to them that they can afford after looking for some spiders and sold it to a gambler in a cheaper price then the proceeds of the sale will then be use to gamble by these kids age 9-16 Y.O. The good thing is that whenever they caught to prison since the kids are protected by law under the age of 17 and below the will be set free after their parents made some arrangement to the police officers.

On the one hand, I think I heard gambling might be more addictive to teens than to adults, and if that's true, then teens should not be given the opportunity to engage in such activities. Moreover, you're saying the only problem is young people gambling, but I think another problem with animal fights is that it is cruel behavior with animals and should not be encouraged. But returning to kids gambling, I remember from my school education that Jewish kids play with dreidel on Hanukkah, essentially gambling with their sweets and aiming to win more from others. If it's in the traditions and probably still practiced nowadays, maybe child gambling is not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe the specifics matter (when, on what, with what etc.).

[nakamura12]

What area /country is this? You forgot to mention OP. Also, if you have the article link on what you are talking about here, would be great.

Okay. I got the news article here.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1174536/4-arrested-as-spider-fights-gain-following-as-a-form-of-gambling

But it was last year, and no pandemic yet at that time. Wonder if they have spider betting during this pandemic? Parents should be responsible with their kids though.

There is a spider betting happening near at my place even if there is a pandemic. I have been watching them betting on whicg spider they think that will win the fight. I even caught a kid bet with another kid before the spider at put on a thread to fight and they even bring flashlights to go in the mountain to find spiders so they will have spiders to fight and bet.