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September 13, 2020, 11:18:36 PM
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Such spider fights have been around for a long time and in the area where I live are used as children's toys like big black ants fighting in small boxes that children play with.
and it happened in the interior and for their entertainment without betting, and the match did not come to an end just by retreating or dodging when losing and it was all just for their entertainment.

The spiders are just too small creatures and i do not understand how they make them fight. I don't find anything entertaining in this fight either.
Don't they have something better to do than watch the spiders fight and bet on them  Huh

Spiders are territorial they have their own web and if they feel another spider around they feel like he came there to steal the prey. They fight by hitting the oponent with their legs and biting.

I also don't find it entertaining. You are putting a living creature to death for your entertainment. It's like looking at pigs or chickens being slaughtered.

I know it's a part of life but I wouldn't want my kids to play like that. I'd rather allow them to gamble with cards, even wrestle each other.
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September 13, 2020, 11:27:07 PM
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Betting on spiders could be harmless is like child's play. But in this time of pandemic, multidinary gatherings are reckless and we must avoid them. We must also take care of the health of children and any gambling activity should not be tolerated. The spiders should return to their habitat and preserve it from a possible danger of extinction. Strongly disagree with this activity.

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September 13, 2020, 11:59:18 PM
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Betting on spiders could be harmless is like child's play. But in this time of pandemic, multidinary gatherings are reckless and we must avoid them. We must also take care of the health of children and any gambling activity should not be tolerated. The spiders should return to their habitat and preserve it from a possible danger of extinction. Strongly disagree with this activity.
In our country many children do the spider game. If involved money in betting that's to be prohibited and must be guided by their parents. That's true this is not to be tolerated in this kind of activity since there is economic crisis and pandemic people should follow the law and rules. Also, we're still in a community quarantine and this kind of game is not allowed that impose gathering.
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September 14, 2020, 01:28:33 AM
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Your police officials are doing a great thing to monitor all types of traditional gambling in your city because, in this new normal, people need money, they will do anything to have cash or make money. It is why in some cities, especially in Asian, people tend to play traditional gambling because they hope they can make money from gambling as usual.

But I think even if the police officials caught the gamblers who play traditional gambling, that would not stop for that day. On another day, when the situations are safe, people will play another traditional gambling game. People will try with the different traditional gambling games which will look that are not gambling games to avoid monitoring from the police.

Perhaps, the police need to be more strict with the children who play traditional gambling, so they can know that they don't deserve to play gambling in their ages.

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September 14, 2020, 01:49:14 AM
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I am familiar with that spider betting. I used to play that kind of game when I was a kid. Well, it's fun yeah. But when it involves money it is already a form of gambling. And kids shall be warned about the do's and don'ts, for them spider betting is a kind of a game that will satisfy not just there boredom but also their happiness.
 Amidst pandemic, parents are responsible to monitor their children to prevent such unnecessarry actions like this one. This is also very popular in our area that even 10 years below knows how to play. Anyhow, this raid may warned them that gambling is still prohibited and  especially at their very young age.
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September 14, 2020, 04:41:43 AM
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I am familiar with that spider betting. I used to play that kind of game when I was a kid. Well, it's fun yeah. But when it involves money it is already a form of gambling. And kids shall be warned about the do's and don'ts, for them spider betting is a kind of a game that will satisfy not just there boredom but also their happiness.
 Amidst pandemic, parents are responsible to monitor their children to prevent such unnecessarry actions like this one. This is also very popular in our area that even 10 years below knows how to play. Anyhow, this raid may warned them that gambling is still prohibited and  especially at their very young age.

are you from asia ? because i never heard non asian country have tried this but except from breeding rare kind of spiders or tarantulas .

spider fights is not a kind of game but itl still fall under the act of cruelty into species . there was a law about that afaik and thats why police are against with it not that they are against with gambling . if kids want to play, theres other games out there but spiders should be given a freedom to live outside peacefully .
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September 14, 2020, 05:08:01 AM
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I am familiar with that spider betting. I used to play that kind of game when I was a kid. Well, it's fun yeah. But when it involves money it is already a form of gambling. And kids shall be warned about the do's and don'ts, for them spider betting is a kind of a game that will satisfy not just there boredom but also their happiness.
 Amidst pandemic, parents are responsible to monitor their children to prevent such unnecessarry actions like this one. This is also very popular in our area that even 10 years below knows how to play. Anyhow, this raid may warned them that gambling is still prohibited and  especially at their very young age.

are you from asia ? because i never heard non asian country have tried this but except from breeding rare kind of spiders or tarantulas .

spider fights is not a kind of game but itl still fall under the act of cruelty into species . there was a law about that afaik and thats why police are against with it not that they are against with gambling . if kids want to play, theres other games out there but spiders should be given a freedom to live outside peacefully .

spider betting is not using any rare spider breeds and there are countries that have strict policy in different kind of gambling even how small event it is as long as you are doing it in public and without permit then its illegal .

The people behind that should  always be aware to not doing it in public and of course without kids watching since it can be  a bad habit in the future if they show it to them.

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September 14, 2020, 07:26:49 AM
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It is the first time for me that I hear about spider betting and I think I will not like it if I ever will be present in such event.I disagree with any insect or animal betting because they have no logic and in most cases like dog fight betting one of the dogs dies.The authorities have done a good job and I think this should be forbidden everywhere in the world.Social gathering was another reason why the cops come in and stopped this.

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September 14, 2020, 08:31:20 AM
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Well, since this is happening in our place the fun and excitement is when the spider fight is all about the bet. Actually there are winning strategies here applied and it depend on the owner how he was able to take care of the spider like not feeding it for a while to get a good body shape at the same time the apetite to eat is strong which lead to killing a certain spider whenever it meet another spider. The match is being decided by both parties if their spiders has the same in size or strength or even if not as long as the other party will give a betting advantage like 7$ dollars bet winning 10$ will do. This is how it will going to work. Other things to consider is the color and bloodline of the spider. Any small spider could win big ones especially if it has a good bloodline or color. Most of the spiders color determine the environment he sleep like probably in a certain tree which made their skin color special. Others spiders living in underneat of the stones were really a good one in fights.
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September 14, 2020, 09:48:01 AM
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What exactly is the authority trying to prevent in the country?  Crowded places due to the health problem, animal fighting, gambling, betting on animals?
I think the police is doing the right thing of it is trying to stop or prevent all of the above.  People should avoid gathering in crowded place without following the good safety measures. They should also not allow people to encourage animals to fight nor bet on fighting animals. In regards to gambling, it's obviously not a good thing to gamble in anything atall especially for selfish reasons. We must be good/profitable at betting before committing more money/time in it.
  A bettor must not gamble. Bet with small amount of money or what you can afford to lose till perhaps you become good at the games/competitions. Bet only on good and safe games (no betting on animals fights or other violent games). Be a good and responsible bettor.

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September 14, 2020, 11:12:32 AM
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Betting on spiders could be harmless is like child's play. But in this time of pandemic, multidinary gatherings are reckless and we must avoid them. We must also take care of the health of children and any gambling activity should not be tolerated. The spiders should return to their habitat and preserve it from a possible danger of extinction. Strongly disagree with this activity.

This should be discourage because spiders is a big help in the environment and humanity the authorities should discourage this kind of activity, this happens because kids lack of activity in their area, there are no playing ground so they can play, and they can make money from selling these spiders to bettors, there should be a local ordinance that ban catching and betting with spiders.

Check this article and read some of the reasons might actually be useful to humanity.
https://metro.co.uk/2015/11/27/9-reasons-why-spiders-might-actually-be-useful-for-humanity-5529432/

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September 14, 2020, 11:51:45 AM
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What exactly is the authority trying to prevent in the country?  Crowded places due to the health problem, animal fighting, gambling, betting on animals?
I think the police is doing the right thing of it is trying to stop or prevent all of the above.  People should avoid gathering in crowded place without following the good safety measures. They should also not allow people to encourage animals to fight nor bet on fighting animals. In regards to gambling, it's obviously not a good thing to gamble in anything atall especially for selfish reasons. We must be good/profitable at betting before committing more money/time in it.
  A bettor must not gamble. Bet with small amount of money or what you can afford to lose till perhaps you become good at the games/competitions. Bet only on good and safe games (no betting on animals fights or other violent games). Be a good and responsible bettor.

Spider betting is not really a problem here in my country since it's been popular for a long time. The problem is social gathering amidst the pandemic and the kids are outside which is not allowed I think, that's why the authorities are constantly monitoring op's place. Although I don't think that the authorities are concern about gambling at a young age since it's just a small betting made for fun, I still think it's not a good practice for minors because they might adapt it when they grow up.



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September 14, 2020, 12:13:06 PM
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What exactly is the authority trying to prevent in the country?  Crowded places due to the health problem, animal fighting, gambling, betting on animals?
I think the police is doing the right thing of it is trying to stop or prevent all of the above.  People should avoid gathering in crowded place without following the good safety measures. They should also not allow people to encourage animals to fight nor bet on fighting animals. In regards to gambling, it's obviously not a good thing to gamble in anything atall especially for selfish reasons. We must be good/profitable at betting before committing more money/time in it.
  A bettor must not gamble. Bet with small amount of money or what you can afford to lose till perhaps you become good at the games/competitions. Bet only on good and safe games (no betting on animals fights or other violent games). Be a good and responsible bettor.

Spider betting is not really a problem here in my country since it's been popular for a long time. The problem is social gathering amidst the pandemic and the kids are outside which is not allowed I think, that's why the authorities are constantly monitoring op's place. Although I don't think that the authorities are concern about gambling at a young age since it's just a small betting made for fun, I still think it's not a good practice for minors because they might adapt it when they grow up.




This is a traditional gambling in our place and yes the authorities are not that strict when it comes to a gambling like this. Right now, people are advised to stay at home especially if you have no business on going outside, so technically the authority are implementing the strict rule about the quarantine protocol.

When I was a kid, spider betting was one of my hobby since in my place every kinds have their own spider and many spider are being sold right in front of our school. Spider betting is fine as long as the money is not that big, but if the player really treat this as gambling, then the authority have to monitor this one.

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September 14, 2020, 12:13:17 PM
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What exactly is the authority trying to prevent in the country?  Crowded places due to the health problem, animal fighting, gambling, betting on animals?
I think the police is doing the right thing of it is trying to stop or prevent all of the above.  People should avoid gathering in crowded place without following the good safety measures. They should also not allow people to encourage animals to fight nor bet on fighting animals. In regards to gambling, it's obviously not a good thing to gamble in anything atall especially for selfish reasons. We must be good/profitable at betting before committing more money/time in it.
  A bettor must not gamble. Bet with small amount of money or what you can afford to lose till perhaps you become good at the games/competitions. Bet only on good and safe games (no betting on animals fights or other violent games). Be a good and responsible bettor.

Spider betting is not really a problem here in my country since it's been popular for a long time. The problem is social gathering amidst the pandemic and the kids are outside which is not allowed I think, that's why the authorities are constantly monitoring op's place. Although I don't think that the authorities are concern about gambling at a young age since it's just a small betting made for fun, I still think it's not a good practice for minors because they might adapt it when they grow up.


Authorities now are concern of both the social gathering and most of all the gambling. Even before the pandemic, the President in OP's country have a directive address to the Philippine National Police to stop illegal gambling even the small ones like bingo or card game's with friends. There are so many arrest made by the PNP here in our place on that spider betting games and illegal cockfighting even before the pandemic happen, that's why that kind game is not visible on the streets unlike before where the openly bet on the streets.  

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September 14, 2020, 12:18:37 PM
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What can you say about this?
Are we really that hard headed or just love spider betting?



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Gamblers specially in this local gambling treat this as a habit,they are doing this for long time meaning this is an ordinary occasion and not that serious gambling.
Though there are sometimes Big money involved in this.
i actually play this in provinces whenever i go to visit relatives outside city.
But for now?i rather not to play because of the rules that government imposes.

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September 14, 2020, 12:25:08 PM
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This is something that is unique, weird, and quite too much. Spider betting is betting brought to a different level. It is understandable if the ones who are involved are those little children only, but I am sure there are also many adults who are caught up with this hobby. I have read before that huge amount of money is actually involved in this kind of gambling.

And in the middle of pandemic, too. These people should be severely penalized for violating health rules and for illegal gambling violations. I hope government authorities would strictly implement illegal gambling especially those involved with animal cruelty.
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September 14, 2020, 12:36:49 PM
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Amazing how can people find many forms of entertainment even with the shutdown of casino's and physical sports bookies. It still showed no obstacle for people to bet and gamble, this is a matter of great concern. That country should monitor their community, because it will cause massive transmission due to the lack of physical distancing. The government there may apply strict monetization to gambling platforms itself. Affecting even online gambling websites.

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September 14, 2020, 12:57:36 PM
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Betting on spiders could be harmless is like child's play. But in this time of pandemic, multidinary gatherings are reckless and we must avoid them. We must also take care of the health of children and any gambling activity should not be tolerated. The spiders should return to their habitat and preserve it from a possible danger of extinction. Strongly disagree with this activity.


If I'm not mistaken, there were some kids who face their demise playing this game because the kind of spider they caught was a poisonous one that can be enough to kill them if not taken to the hospitals immediately. This has happened when I was a boy, I watched it on TV back then. So, playing with the spiders is not safe at all.

I cannot find the source today because the news was from long ago but you can read in this article that there are some spiders that only lives here in our country:
https://hubpages.com/travel/Philippine-Islands-Venomous-Spiders-and-Poisonous-Snakes-and-Other-Dangerous-Animals-and-Insects

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Rare symptoms of a red back spider bite include coma, respiratory failure and even death.

Young children and the elderly have been know to die within hours of being bitten. A fully grown human can take as many as 30 days before they die, whilst all the time being in pain if medical treatment is not received.

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September 14, 2020, 01:51:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure those kids aren't actually betting. Way back when we were just like at that age, we also love playing with our bought spiders. Battle it to friend's spider also. We don't need any money to gamble. Just the spider sometimes, if you won, you take my spider, If I won, I'll take yours. Sometimes we just make them fight just to know who is stronger, no betting at all.

Tho, these people should not include those kids on their bets, just let them watch. Gambling at the very young age is not well, but I believe they can manage already, but not that good.

Yes, and I remember that there are times where there is really no need for one of them to die. Just see who will fall first from the stick and then games over. Right now the kids really have to be law abiding for the time being. Play with spiders but no money should be involved and that no adults should be pushing for money bets. There are youtubers who do this for a living showcasing their groups spider collection and then doing spider fights and put them on youtube. I don't think they are gambling since he was featured on national TV and there was no mention of gambling whatsoever.

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September 14, 2020, 01:56:16 PM
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Betting on spiders could be harmless is like child's play.
If I'm not mistaken, there were some kids who face their demise playing this game because the kind of spider they caught was a poisonous one that can be enough to kill them if not taken to the hospitals immediately. This has happened when I was a boy, I watched it on TV back then. So, playing with the spiders is not safe at all.
thats a different spider on the pic and not the typical spider that we often saw on the spider betting  . if your a kid you will not know it but as long as you saw a spider you will get it if its within your range  .   its not the spiders fault but the parents are also responsible for it , spiders like that wont harm if they arent also harmed . on the pic (  the one that the arrested )  they dont look like a kid anymore but they are adults and i dont think they will arrest kids  that are underage .
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