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September 28, 2020, 06:51:31 PM
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there are worse gambling games we do when we were kids. apart from flipping coins and spider fights, we also bet to guess the dates like year when the coin was made. coins normally have year like 1990, 1995, 1998 and so on. we bet it on our palms and just bet and open the coin to check the year. spider fight is normal when you are in the Philippines. playing cards or mahjong is learned by kids as early as 12 in my town. but i guess it changed these days. this was back when there is no internet yet.

When I was kid we use to play this "coin and knuckles" games at school or kindergarden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqP3oLmREp8 Here is the short video. You twist the coin, next person needs to hit it with finger so it would continue twisting. Those who failed to do it, get a hit by edge of this coin into the knuckle. If you play like 3-4 persons, in 5 minutes (during a break) you knuckles becomes a bloody mess. We even but bets if next hit will open a wound or not (but betting was not often). This is games is worse than spider betting Cheesy
We can always find something that is worse than spider betting but I do not think there could be too much of a point to do so, what it is important is that this seems  to be against the law and if the kids are bored enough to do this then they should find another activity that is more productive than spider betting, also this kind of behaviour could lead to even more reckless bets on the future like illegal car racing in which not only they could put the lives of other people at risk but even their own, so it is better to curb this behaviour as soon as possible.

the games above aside from hurting the knucle dont look like worst than spider betting but i find them interesting , i didnt know that there are so many ways to gamble  as a kid . spider fights is worst i think because there are insects involved and its one of the illegal known kind of betting  . kids are too young for other illegal betting like racing but as they grow older they also look for more adventureous type of betting  . this is why im with you of preventing this to happen by guiding our kids properly before its too late .
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September 28, 2020, 07:19:53 PM
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there are worse gambling games we do when we were kids. apart from flipping coins and spider fights, we also bet to guess the dates like year when the coin was made. coins normally have year like 1990, 1995, 1998 and so on. we bet it on our palms and just bet and open the coin to check the year. spider fight is normal when you are in the Philippines. playing cards or mahjong is learned by kids as early as 12 in my town. but i guess it changed these days. this was back when there is no internet yet.

When I was kid we use to play this "coin and knuckles" games at school or kindergarden. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqP3oLmREp8 Here is the short video. You twist the coin, next person needs to hit it with finger so it would continue twisting. Those who failed to do it, get a hit by edge of this coin into the knuckle. If you play like 3-4 persons, in 5 minutes (during a break) you knuckles becomes a bloody mess. We even but bets if next hit will open a wound or not (but betting was not often). This is games is worse than spider betting Cheesy
We can always find something that is worse than spider betting but I do not think there could be too much of a point to do so, what it is important is that this seems  to be against the law and if the kids are bored enough to do this then they should find another activity that is more productive than spider betting, also this kind of behaviour could lead to even more reckless bets on the future like illegal car racing in which not only they could put the lives of other people at risk but even their own, so it is better to curb this behaviour as soon as possible.

the games above aside from hurting the knucle dont look like worst than spider betting but i find them interesting , i didnt know that there are so many ways to gamble  as a kid . spider fights is worst i think because there are insects involved and its one of the illegal known kind of betting  . kids are too young for other illegal betting like racing but as they grow older they also look for more adventureous type of betting  . this is why im with you of preventing this to happen by guiding our kids properly before its too late .
Seeing up the video about that coin and knuckles then i can say that this is much worst than on spider betting.It might not really get involved with some insects but you do hurt up yourself and i dont see for it to be interesting.This is my first time on seeing this kind of game where kids can do about.For spiders then i dont consider it to be endangered for it to be heavily protected.Its still many and lots of species that do still exist.
Its just people are really fan on making things to be included on a gambling or betting activity.If this one is considered harsh due to animal involvement then horse racing should be banned too?
or any other that do involved any species of animal.When it comes to kids that do involve on these betting activity then good parenting or guidance would be the main solution on this one.

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September 28, 2020, 11:57:34 PM
Last edit: September 29, 2020, 12:14:14 AM by famososMuertos
 #183

What is the real thrill of gambling?
We want to bet on everything, although at this point it is something cultural and even humorous, in fact  tourist for some.

"...the bet to survive, in the wild life is justified," pocket phrase from a gambler to justify.  Sad

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September 29, 2020, 12:28:49 AM
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What is the real thrill of gambling?
We want to bet on everything, although at this point it is something cultural and even humorous, in fact  tourist for some.

"...the bet to survive, in the wild life is justified," pocket phrase from a gambler to justify.  Sad

I guess the real thrill of gambling will be a win or lose. The sensation of winning will be different than the loss because if we win, our feeling will be full of happiness, and we will celebrate it with our beloved. The sensation of gambling is very tempting every person, making people who don't know gambling want to feel that.

If traditional gambling games have the attention of tourists, they will try to look closer and learn how to play it.

Our life will be full of a gamble because we risk every decision we made to get something we want.

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September 29, 2020, 01:29:07 AM
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I can't help but wonder how many things there are in our world that you can bet on and enjoy. In our childhood, games were much more harmless. We played on the inserts from gum and also getting pleasure from it.
The main thing in this situation should be that children play only among themselves and not be involved in adult games.
How dangerous are these spiders?

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September 29, 2020, 07:47:43 AM
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I can't help but wonder how many things there are in our world that you can bet on and enjoy. In our childhood, games were much more harmless. We played on the inserts from gum and also getting pleasure from it.
The main thing in this situation should be that children play only among themselves and not be involved in adult games.
How dangerous are these spiders?

We might not know, children's now a days are being exposed to gambling already by playing games in their mobile and desktop devices. Lotteries in games already exposes the concept of gambling.

I want to share my experience, in my childhood, I have tried to breed these spiders, nourish it and fight with other kid's spiders. Though we haven't placed any bets, there's so much fun in it. So for me, it's okay for children to see these things as long as they will not spend any amount to bet. I can say, right now, I can consider myself not addicted to gambling based from my experience like this.
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September 29, 2020, 11:33:27 AM
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How dangerous are these spiders?

I'm sure they are not dangerous for humans, but dangerous among their species. I just dont understand how can they force one spider fight another? Keep them hungry? Then they are torturing them and this might be worse than just gambling.

I think this story in overall is not about gambling, but another story about someone not wearing protection masks during pandemic. And press just add sound words "spiders, kids, gambling" to attract more attention.

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September 29, 2020, 11:54:48 AM
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I can't help but wonder how many things there are in our world that you can bet on and enjoy. In our childhood, games were much more harmless. We played on the inserts from gum and also getting pleasure from it.
The main thing in this situation should be that children play only among themselves and not be involved in adult games.
How dangerous are these spiders?

We might not know, children's now a days are being exposed to gambling already by playing games in their mobile and desktop devices. Lotteries in games already exposes the concept of gambling.

I want to share my experience, in my childhood, I have tried to breed these spiders, nourish it and fight with other kid's spiders. Though we haven't placed any bets, there's so much fun in it. So for me, it's okay for children to see these things as long as they will not spend any amount to bet. I can say, right now, I can consider myself not addicted to gambling based from my experience like this.
well I totally agree with what you say because currently there are lots of games that add a feature which is commonly called "Gatcha" which in my opinion is the same as gambling because the items you get depend on luck, if children are addicted to games like that then they will spend whatever money there is.

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September 29, 2020, 12:19:12 PM
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I can't help but wonder how many things there are in our world that you can bet on and enjoy. In our childhood, games were much more harmless. We played on the inserts from gum and also getting pleasure from it.
The main thing in this situation should be that children play only among themselves and not be involved in adult games.
How dangerous are these spiders?

We might not know, children's now a days are being exposed to gambling already by playing games in their mobile and desktop devices. Lotteries in games already exposes the concept of gambling.

I want to share my experience, in my childhood, I have tried to breed these spiders, nourish it and fight with other kid's spiders. Though we haven't placed any bets, there's so much fun in it. So for me, it's okay for children to see these things as long as they will not spend any amount to bet. I can say, right now, I can consider myself not addicted to gambling based from my experience like this.

It's much easier to control what your kids are doing on mobile devices. You can install special software and restrict access to unwanted apps and content.
It's much harder to control what they do at school or on the street. Here you need to resort to proper education and explain that you can not play games for money.

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September 29, 2020, 02:01:33 PM
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How dangerous are these spiders?

I'm sure they are not dangerous for humans, but dangerous among their species. I just dont understand how can they force one spider fight another? Keep them hungry? Then they are torturing them and this might be worse than just gambling.

I think this story in overall is not about gambling, but another story about someone not wearing protection masks during pandemic. And press just add sound words "spiders, kids, gambling" to attract more attention.

That's the focus or the highlights of this concern, the protocols for not wearing the safety guards, it will open the chances of spreading
the virus, plus the information that it was also alarming since young kids are involved, people that supposedly not allow to go out as per the rule of government while we are still inside quarantine status.
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September 29, 2020, 03:01:00 PM
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It's much easier to control what your kids are doing on mobile devices. You can install special software and restrict access to unwanted apps and content.
It's much harder to control what they do at school or on the street. Here you need to resort to proper education and explain that you can not play games for money.

That's why parents need to consider spying their kids when they are not in the house because they could see another behavior of their kids in the street. Wise parents will follow their kids in the street to see what they were doing and when they found they are not doing the right thing, they will discipline their child. So that things like the OP post won't happen in the future.

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September 29, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
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I can't help but wonder how many things there are in our world that you can bet on and enjoy. In our childhood, games were much more harmless. We played on the inserts from gum and also getting pleasure from it.
The main thing in this situation should be that children play only among themselves and not be involved in adult games.
How dangerous are these spiders?

The reason why children are also betting from their spiders is because of the influence of the adult. Hunting spiders is hard when you're gonna do it in a broad daylight, while in night, they're easy to hunt since they are in the middle of their web and all you need is flashlight. So they come up with the idea of selling it or let it fight and then put a bet on it.

And about your concern on how dangerous are those spiders, they are safe to play even if the children got bitten by it since it's just a orb Weaver spider.

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September 29, 2020, 04:04:31 PM
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well I totally agree with what you say because currently there are lots of games that add a feature which is commonly called "Gatcha" which in my opinion is the same as gambling because the items you get depend on luck, if children are addicted to games like that then they will spend whatever money there is.

I am afraid that the kids will enjoy playing that game because they will not think it is part of gambling. When they feel enjoy, they will play more and more, and if they play for a long time, they can become addicted to that game without they know. I am really worried if the kids don't know about gambling because they will do that until they grow up.

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September 29, 2020, 04:21:34 PM
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I am afraid that the kids will enjoy playing that game because they will not think it is part of gambling.
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They won't get addicted if they have good guidance from their parents.
Parents should teach their kids on proper management of money.
But I don't always agree that if they play more & more on games like TopT3ns said, they will get addicted.
Mentioning my experience, my chiildhood was almost full of child gambling games, but I did not become addicted into it even on time that I'm winning too much.
I also experienced betting for our childplays, on on my gradeschool and Highschool days, I already betting and fighting others on games like DOTA( Dota 1 for gradeschool, Dota 2, on highschool to college).

So for me, the key is discipline Smiley
It's fine using money for gambling, but know your limitations. Grin
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September 29, 2020, 07:18:54 PM
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It's fine using money for gambling, but know your limitations. Grin

And it is fine if you have earned these money by yourself, but not stole it, parents gave you these money for lunch or etc.

I believe that if person earns money, he has full rights to spend as he wants. Gamble all of them or partly, that is his own decision.

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September 29, 2020, 07:45:23 PM
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I am afraid that the kids will enjoy playing that game because they will not think it is part of gambling.
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They won't get addicted if they have good guidance from their parents.
Parents should teach their kids on proper management of money.
But I don't always agree that if they play more & more on games like TopT3ns said, they will get addicted.
Mentioning my experience, my chiildhood was almost full of child gambling games, but I did not become addicted into it even on time that I'm winning too much.
I also experienced betting for our childplays, on on my gradeschool and Highschool days, I already betting and fighting others on games like DOTA( Dota 1 for gradeschool, Dota 2, on highschool to college).

So for me, the key is discipline Smiley
It's fine using money for gambling, but know your limitations. Grin

The more experienceyou got when you're a kid the better you will be when you get older. Getting addicted for some time but it passed later shift to another addiction like swimming on rivers, fishing using a handline and computer games are just few that I also got addicted. 

I can't help but wonder how many things there are in our world that you can bet on and enjoy. In our childhood, games were much more harmless. We played on the inserts from gum and also getting pleasure from it.
The main thing in this situation should be that children play only among themselves and not be involved in adult games.
How dangerous are these spiders?

The reason why children are also betting from their spiders is because of the influence of the adult. Hunting spiders is hard when you're gonna do it in a broad daylight, while in night, they're easy to hunt since they are in the middle of their web and all you need is flashlight. So they come up with the idea of selling it or let it fight and then put a bet on it.

And about your concern on how dangerous are those spiders, they are safe to play even if the children got bitten by it since it's just a orb Weaver spider.

True. I don't see betting on spider fights really will be an addiction the fact that there come a season when spiders are hard to find, particularly on rainy days, there isn't just  many individuals going ot risk looking for spiders.





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September 29, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
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It's much easier to control what your kids are doing on mobile devices. You can install special software and restrict access to unwanted apps and content.
It's much harder to control what they do at school or on the street. Here you need to resort to proper education and explain that you can not play games for money.

That's why parents need to consider spying their kids when they are not in the house because they could see another behavior of their kids in the street. Wise parents will follow their kids in the street to see what they were doing and when they found they are not doing the right thing, they will discipline their child. So that things like the OP post won't happen in the future.

From my experience, I know that it is impossible to be near a child all the time. There are a lot of places like schools, sports clubs, interest groups, houses, streets where children can be alone. Each of them has friends and classmates. All of them communicate with each other and talk about games.
Wise parents should explain to their child what is good and what is bad, what can be done and what can't be done.

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September 30, 2020, 03:22:35 AM
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It's much easier to control what your kids are doing on mobile devices. You can install special software and restrict access to unwanted apps and content.
It's much harder to control what they do at school or on the street. Here you need to resort to proper education and explain that you can not play games for money.

That's why parents need to consider spying their kids when they are not in the house because they could see another behavior of their kids in the street. Wise parents will follow their kids in the street to see what they were doing and when they found they are not doing the right thing, they will discipline their child. So that things like the OP post won't happen in the future.

From my experience, I know that it is impossible to be near a child all the time. There are a lot of places like schools, sports clubs, interest groups, houses, streets where children can be alone. Each of them has friends and classmates. All of them communicate with each other and talk about games.
Wise parents should explain to their child what is good and what is bad, what can be done and what can't be done.

That is absolutely correct, as a parent you cannot stay 24/7 with your child but you still can explain to the the reality of gambling. You can also keep an eye on his funding by occasionally checking their wardrobe and room.

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September 30, 2020, 09:27:41 AM
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How about this, would you consider gambling if the items involved are not money or crypto, but material things. Like this spider fights for example, the spiders themselves would be the prize and the others will bet with their collection of spiders too. Sometimes it might be baseball or trading cards instead of money. In my opinion it is also a form of gambling, but it is a bit discreet. Whether it is money or trading cards or spiders, it is gambling. What about you, do you think it's gambling?

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September 30, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
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I also have spiders before when I was a kid and we also do that spider betting, I enjoyed it before because it is really amazing seeing two spiders fighting each other. This is also good when you know that two spiders are really strong based on the features of their body. I didn't know before that this is illegal because just like what I have said, I am a beginner at that time and then just a cople of months ago I had watched the news about it and saying that they raid those people who are involved with the spiders betting.

It seems like gambling is prominent all over the world because they even involve animals just to make a bet. Maybe it is just the nature of some people who are really addicted to gambling. I don't know they tend to rely on gambling well in fact there are some other things that they can do to earn money and get entertained as well just like what they can have in gambling.

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