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[Captain Corporate]

Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

[BetFury.io]

Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

[delfastTions]

Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

Great news.  Of course, the community is waiting for new improvements and suggestions from you.  And although I'm not too fond of ways to advance through referral systems, but this is just my perception of the process.  I think devs and OP also know better how to run their business further. 

In any case, I like having my own BFG token and everything connected with it.  Of course, I want to know what is planned to be done to develop the direction related to the use of the token.  And in particular, how are things going with its listing on new exchanges. 
Users of this topic often ask about it here.

[iv4n]

Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

Well, it's not just about the money and math... As we can see you (Betfury) made a unilateral decision to change the deal, without any notifications, just like that. You say you respect constructive criticism so why didn't you respond to this one? Because retroactively changing the agreement is definitely not right. And I would really like to hear how Effie tried to manipulate you.

Captain Corporate, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this discussion, but if you are in affiliate work all your life are you familiar with affiliate commissions in other crypto and fiat casinos? I saw some numbers and the difference is pretty big in some cases... I guess it's something you can check by yourself with a little googling!

And let's not mix affiliate and referral programs!

[BetFury.io]

Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

Well, it's not just about the money and math... As we can see you (Betfury) made a unilateral decision to change the deal, without any notifications, just like that. You say you respect constructive criticism so why didn't you respond to this one? Because retroactively changing the agreement is definitely not right. And I would really like to hear how Effie tried to manipulate you.

Captain Corporate, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this discussion, but if you are in affiliate work all your life are you familiar with affiliate commissions in other crypto and fiat casinos? I saw some numbers and the difference is pretty big in some cases... I guess it's something you can check by yourself with a little googling!

And let's not mix affiliate and referral programs!

If you mean an agreement with the mentioned user (who writes various nonsense in his blog), he had an increased percentage of referral payments. His users really made a lot of deposits. But the referral system is a referral system and we are not able to change something for one affiliate. As far as I know, he demanded better conditions for himself or he will go to write complaints (what he did). Best regards, Kate

[BetFury.io]

Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

Great news.  Of course, the community is waiting for new improvements and suggestions from you.  And although I'm not too fond of ways to advance through referral systems, but this is just my perception of the process.  I think devs and OP also know better how to run their business further. 

In any case, I like having my own BFG token and everything connected with it.  Of course, I want to know what is planned to be done to develop the direction related to the use of the token.  And in particular, how are things going with its listing on new exchanges. 
Users of this topic often ask about it here.

Many casinos do not have mining and staking, which allows them to easily integrate a regular affiliate system. Everything works a little more complicated for us, so development takes a lot of time and resources. It makes no sense to say that everything will be the best. Soon you will see for yourself

[AB de Royse777]

@BetFury.io, have you not been warned not to make multi posting in a row? You can response in a single post to more than one user.

And I would really like to hear how Effie tried to manipulate you.

Is this efialtis?

As far as I know, he demanded better conditions for himself or he will go to write complaints (what he did). Best regards, Kate

Can you show some conversation reference between you two?
This does not sound right. It sounds blackmailing. Do this or I will make you look bad kind of things.

[efialtis]

I have never blackmailed anyone, including Betfury. The act of retroactively changing an affiliate deal is unethical unless there is a mutual agreement on how this is going to be handled, ie paying out a lump sum and letting it go, full stop. And that is when I shared this in public (Medium). So is not following up on cashback promises and selectively making up some terms that do not exist, not to this very day. That is when I shared this 2nd story in public (Medium).

For what it is worth, I am long over this story and I could not care less about it nowadays.

Nb. It is hilarious that you seem to be playing the victim card now when it is YOU literally taking massive advantage of the big traffic we have sent you --> not honoring the negotiated deal

Nb 2. I am removing the negative tag here on the forum anyway, not because it did not happen but simply because there are way more brands that have acted similarly shady and whom I never tagged

Nb 3. Any discussion on the subject on a professional base shall happen via email (you know our official email address) in case you ever want to solve this. We have tried more than once, with no success.

Edit. Never mind, the tag will remain - such audacity, arrogance, and unprofessionalism deserves just that

"They don't wanna discuss it, they rather keep ripping off their fellow partner..." - yeah, you love the wild west

[BetFury.io]

I have never blackmailed anyone, including Betfury. The act of retroactively changing an affiliate deal is unethical unless there is a mutual agreement on how this is going to be handled, ie paying out a lump sum and letting it go, full stop. And that is when I shared this in public (Medium). So is not following up on cashback promises and selectively making up some terms that do not exist, not to this very day. That is when I shared this 2nd story in public (Medium).

For what it is worth, I am long over this story and I could not care less about it nowadays.

Nb. It is hilarious that you seem to be playing the victim card now when it is YOU literally taking massive advantage of the big traffic we have sent you --> not honoring the negotiated deal

Nb 2. I am removing the negative tag here on the forum anyway, not because it did not happen but simply because there are way more brands that have acted similarly shady and whom I never tagged

Nb 3. Any discussion on the subject on a professional base shall happen via email (you know our official email address) in case you ever want to solve this. We have tried more than once, with no success.

Thanks, we're not interested in talking about it anymore. Just like you, we are not interested in discussing this case. Users ask - we/you answer. I hope we will continue to discuss the platform and token here. Wish you all the best 🤗

[AB de Royse777]

Nb 2. I am removing the negative tag here on the forum anyway, not because it did not happen but simply because there are way more brands that have acted similarly shady and whom I never tagged

Good to know. Since you are doing it and already claimed that doing it because there are similarly shady brands around who you did not tag too. It's time to know what icopress thinks about the neg he left.

[icopress]

[...]

My opinion is reflected in the tag I left, and as stated earlier I will revise it if the BetFury rep replies in the appropriate thread (constructively and without arrogance). Efialtis is an extremely trusted member of this community and I have no reason not to trust his words, especially since the representative of BetFury confirmed the existence of agreements and an influx of deposits. At the moment, I see that the partnership agreement was violated, which entailed financial losses. In any case, I'm not the one who initiated the tag, and if Efialtis reconsiders his decision, then I probably should do the same.

[Easteregg69]

I hate idiots and got banned for 3 days from the chat.

For going against religious and politics out ruling. It's a political platform now. And one more thing i have forgotten. It's in the rule. Nationalist shit! And it's not geoblocks.

Incognito Ricky 1337.

Louiz! You can suck a big fat dick! For starting it.

[Easteregg69]

Not saving a copy. don't delete!

[Coin_trader]

I hate idiots and got banned for 3 days from the chat.

For going against religious and politics out ruling. It's a political platform now. And one more thing i have forgotten. It's in the rule. Nationalist shit! And it's not geoblocks.

Incognito Ricky 1337.

Louiz! You can suck a big fat dick! For starting it.

Can you post what’s the exact content of your chat on the chat box? Typically chat box doesn’t censored this kind of topic but if your statement contains word that will lead to an argument or dispute on the chat box then you will sent a warning and not an immediate ban. You seems irritated and probably you have an argument to other user that contains swear or forbidden words on the chat that result to chat ban.

Chat box nowadays is very strict and highly moderated unlike before that it is just a for fun and trolling that’s why it was called a trollbox. 

[babygun]

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[ultrloa]

I hate idiots and got banned for 3 days from the chat.

For going against religious and politics out ruling. It's a political platform now. And one more thing i have forgotten. It's in the rule. Nationalist shit! And it's not geoblocks.

Incognito Ricky 1337.

Louiz! You can suck a big fat dick! For starting it.

Looking at your post it seems that you have a problem and maybe that's the reason why you got banned so I think you need to respect anyone's belief and don't bring or talk about political or religious stuff discussion on gambling platform since this doesn't give any sense at all there. 

Also if you hate them for doing that there are many casino available to play on.

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[Slow death]

I hate idiots and got banned for 3 days from the chat.

For going against religious and politics out ruling. It's a political platform now. And one more thing i have forgotten. It's in the rule. Nationalist shit! And it's not geoblocks.

Incognito Ricky 1337.

Louiz! You can suck a big fat dick! For starting it.

 

oh my god, you again? in the other thread you wrote nonsense, i thought it was just some temporary problem you are experiencing, but reading your post i really get worried, you are posting nonsense, look at what you wrote? no one can even understand at least this is something serious, are you sure you are mentally well? I'm not saying you're crazy, I hope you don't understand it that way, but if you keep making posts like this then you will need medical help urgently

Looking at your post it seems that you have a problem and maybe that's the reason why you got banned...

maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion he is not posting things about this casino, he makes posts without any sense and that has nothing to do with the thread, I could be wrong. but if yours is right then he is in urgent need of medical help

[coinerer]

The birthday party officially started today! We can all enjoy a free BSW box (claimable every 20 minutes), a mining bonus of 10%, an increased RTP to 99% and with the scratch card, you can win up to 1 million BFG tokens. Did anybody claim a birthday box today, just checked it but couldn't find one so maybe I am already too late.

I missed this birthday reward because I haven't used Betfurry for about 7-8 months. I lost my $1400 gambling on Betfurry. I quit using Betfurry in anger because of that. after that i didn’t come here for gamble.  So I missed out on this year Anniversary Reward.

[tygeade]

I hate idiots and got banned for 3 days from the chat.

For going against religious and politics out ruling. It's a political platform now. And one more thing i have forgotten. It's in the rule. Nationalist shit! And it's not geoblocks.

Incognito Ricky 1337.

Louiz! You can suck a big fat dick! For starting it.

Looking at your post it seems that you have a problem and maybe that's the reason why you got banned so I think you need to respect anyone's belief and don't bring or talk about political or religious stuff discussion on gambling platform since this doesn't give any sense at all there. 

Also if you hate them for doing that there are many casino available to play on.

That is the problem, right or wrong if you attack someones point of view in a casino then you are going to get muted. This isn't a ban by the way, ban is when you are gone, 3 days means you are muted, and that's a warning to you.

By the looks of it the guy doesn't look like he learned from his mistakes, he could come back and keep talking about it again and that's going to be a trouble for him. I have to say that if anyone doesn't learn from their mistakes and keep talking about religion or politics in the chat, they are going to get the same punishment and it is not going to be that simple to get out of it by just writing to forum and complaining about the situation.