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I am pretty sure he/she means that this has been talked over and over from time to time and most of us seem to understand that even if that would be possible, listing is not the right move because the costs are more then benefits. There are several points that have been mentioned for and against in this thread.

But isn't registering there actually getting bigger profits in the future because this is a pretty good idea for the long term even though it does require a lot of money but I'm always sure that a good development will definitely require more money and time not a snap.
What makes you believe they won't benefit because the costs outweigh the benefits?
Pros and cons or differences of opinion in this thread will always exist because it is a natural thing where everyone must have their own way of thinking which is considered the most correct and appropriate so that whatever happens if for the sake of progress and development it must be done.

It depends, if you take the time to look at the reaction of other coins after being listed on a big exchange like binance you can see that some of them showed a good behavior and the price of those coins went up, obviously this is the kind of behavior that anyone that is holding one of those tokens wants to see, however it is also very common for a coin to dump dramatically after is listed at binance as now whales can manipulate the price of the asset more easily, and if the coin does not have the volume to resist such manipulation the price can drop to very low levels and never recover.

this is definitely a situation where coin makers have to choose:

1 - put the coin listed on many exchanges and risk the price of the altcoin going down and not being the price they would like it to be at and letting the market decide what price the altcoin deserves to have, but at least people will have lots safe places to buy altcoin

2 - the creators of the altcoin do not list the altcoin on many exchanges so that they can control the price so that it has a high price that benefits them, but with that also people will only be able to buy the altcoin on a small number of shady exchanges, i.e. the creators of the altcoin benefit and customers will simply stop buying the altcoin because they won't want to create accounts in the shadow altcoins

I already commented on this in the past, why would a casino need to create its own altcoin? operating costs and time to manage a casino is already something very difficult, now imagine having to have more operating costs with the creation of an altcoin that has the same purposes as many altcoins that have existed for years and are much more reliable? what is the advantage of that? honestly I don't see any advantage in a casino creating its altcoin

[AmoreJaz]

We cannot compare between slot games and sports betting because both are completely different from the aspect of luck.
I mean slot games are games that come from casinos and slot games themselves are designed using RNG, which means random numbers will come out and we can't predict wins.
On another aspect, slot games use RTP which allows gamblers not to spend their balance too quickly.
For sports betting that comes from a sportsbook, the results can be more predictable, even though the final result sometimes does not guarantee victory.
But at least at sports betting you can make predictions that make it possible to get big wins.
And in slot games you don't have to need a professional gambler to get maxwin because this is truly a random number, it's just that the game has a few techniques not a strategy to get a big multiplier to get small or big wins.

As i explained, the reason i am using them instead of sports betting is, i don't need to wait, with combo betting i would need to wait for days and i am not often even seeing every game. But putting %5 in a slot machine i don't need skills. I will be exactly in same position as everyone else and upside of winning lot with small bet can be as high as life chancing.

If you are good at betting on sports, you really should do that. I was merely explaining why slots can be attracting to me. I like sports betting as well but i want to watch the game and in order to win big with small bet i will need to do combination bets. And waiting for results can be frustrating when i have small attention span.

well, it goes to show that each gambler has their own preference when it comes to betting. and surely, some has their reasons to play some of those luck-based games and also why they are also betting on sports. in any case, it is your own money so you're the one responsible to your games.
but when it comes to sportsbetting, based from my experience, it is quite hard to win in combo bets. unless, your luck is also on your side and you're very sure of those matches. upsets do always happen so that's also one factor that you can never guarantee your bets even if you say you're the expert on such sports.

[virasog]

We cannot compare between slot games and sports betting because both are completely different from the aspect of luck.
I mean slot games are games that come from casinos and slot games themselves are designed using RNG, which means random numbers will come out and we can't predict wins.
On another aspect, slot games use RTP which allows gamblers not to spend their balance too quickly.
For sports betting that comes from a sportsbook, the results can be more predictable, even though the final result sometimes does not guarantee victory.
But at least at sports betting you can make predictions that make it possible to get big wins.
And in slot games you don't have to need a professional gambler to get maxwin because this is truly a random number, it's just that the game has a few techniques not a strategy to get a big multiplier to get small or big wins.

As i explained, the reason i am using them instead of sports betting is, i don't need to wait, with combo betting i would need to wait for days and i am not often even seeing every game. But putting %5 in a slot machine i don't need skills. I will be exactly in same position as everyone else and upside of winning lot with small bet can be as high as life chancing.

If you are good at betting on sports, you really should do that. I was merely explaining why slots can be attracting to me. I like sports betting as well but i want to watch the game and in order to win big with small bet i will need to do combination bets. And waiting for results can be frustrating when i have small attention span.

well, it goes to show that each gambler has their own preference when it comes to betting. and surely, some has their reasons to play some of those luck-based games and also why they are also betting on sports. in any case, it is your own money so you're the one responsible to your games.
but when it comes to sportsbetting, based from my experience, it is quite hard to win in combo bets. unless, your luck is also on your side and you're very sure of those matches.

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

[coinerer]

Professional gamblers and those who play slot games regularly can also guess what the machine can deliver step by step due to playing the slot for a long time. So you can't say that slots are impossible to predict. But yes it is believable that sportsbets can make sure predictions which are not possible in slot games. Due to which sports bets can be preferred by many. But on the other hand slot games are more fun than Sportbet

Yes, a site's algorithm is set to behave the same way every time because the system can never think like a human being; here it works as programmed. So a professional gambler who gambles regularly can capture the consistency of the machine. So in that case it is normal that a regular gambler has a higher winning history than a new gambler for all games. But Sportbet is different from other casino games because there is a live game while other games have a result through the machines.

[klarki]

Yes, a site's algorithm is set to behave the same way every time because the system can never think like a human being; here it works as programmed. So a professional gambler who gambles regularly can capture the consistency of the machine. So in that case it is normal that a regular gambler has a higher winning history than a new gambler for all games. But Sportbet is different from other casino games because there is a live game while other games have a result through the machines.

Do you really think so? I may not have as much experience, but I've played at least 1,000 game sessions to have an understanding. Indeed, at some points you can see that the slot is on the payoff, and on this you can play and try to win. But how do you predict when to stop the gambling session?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Professional gamblers and those who play slot games regularly can also guess what the machine can deliver step by step due to playing the slot for a long time. So you can't say that slots are impossible to predict. But yes it is believable that sportsbets can make sure predictions which are not possible in slot games. Due to which sports bets can be preferred by many. But on the other hand slot games are more fun than Sportbet

Yes, a site's algorithm is set to behave the same way every time because the system can never think like a human being; here it works as programmed. So a professional gambler who gambles regularly can capture the consistency of the machine. So in that case it is normal that a regular gambler has a higher winning history than a new gambler for all games. But Sportbet is different from other casino games because there is a live game while other games have a result through the machines.

Well, unfortunately, i think you are wrong, if the site (like you said) have been programmed to behave the same way, that is probably not to allow gamblers win that much, then it means that majorly, every casino have been lying to us when they tell us that their system is probably fair, and even try to prove it through some process...

For me, I think the algorithm controlling casinos are dynamic, this is why it is very possible that both of us can play the same game at the same time, betting the same amount, and one of us will end up winning while the other lose.
If the algorithm was programed to work the same way, we are supposed to both win at the same time and also, lose at the same time.
I believe you understand what I mean.

[babygun]

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

This is an ongoing discussion and I agree that it is better to just find single value bets than to place combi bets. Yes it is a nice feeling to hit one and than the payout will also be a lot larger than compared to a single bet, but how profitable is it? I like stats and I kept track of all my bets some years ago and the main conclusion was that, at least for me, placing combo bets will not result in a positive ROI

[klarki]

This is an ongoing discussion and I agree that it is better to just find single value bets than to place combi bets. Yes it is a nice feeling to hit one and than the payout will also be a lot larger than compared to a single bet, but how profitable is it? I like stats and I kept track of all my bets some years ago and the main conclusion was that, at least for me, placing combo bets will not result in a positive ROI

It is very difficult to give unequivocal advice here, and you are right, this discussion will never stop. My experience also shows that single sports betting has a positive ROI.
Although from time to time I put combo bets, but it's purely entertainment and here you can't do without luck.

[Fredomago]

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

This is an ongoing discussion and I agree that it is better to just find single value bets than to place combi bets. Yes it is a nice feeling to hit one and than the payout will also be a lot larger than compared to a single bet, but how profitable is it? I like stats and I kept track of all my bets some years ago and the main conclusion was that, at least for me, placing combo bets will not result in a positive ROI

Your experienced, your opinion, and for sure there are different opinion with gambler who manage to work out with combo/parlay types of betting strategy, I don't have any argument or much better to say that I believe that your personal experience dictates that for you it's better to use a single bet and risk your money compared to a value bet that for me most of the time can ruin your bet.

A single mistake will cause you to lose your pick, but same deal with a single bet if shit happen it will be still the same outcome to you.

[klarki]

There will be an AMA session on Binance Live very soon.

What will be at the meeting?

• legacy event
• roadmap
• special bonuses

Among other things, valuable prizes will be raffled off at this meeting (BFG and USDT).

5 winners with the best questions will get 6 400 BFG each.
Special prize: 200 users will get $200 in USDT from BSC Daily.

Full info/source link: https://t.me/betfuryofficialchannel/4447

Guys, just keep in mind that this does not mean that we will be able to see BFG on Binance anytime soon

[o48o]

There will be an AMA session on
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Guys, just keep in mind that this does not mean that we will be able to see BFG on Binance anytime soon
-cut-

I gasped for a moment as i had never heard of Binance Live before.
I am very carefully optimistic to get answers but at the same time i am assuming that this ama will focus mainly on the legacy event and while this is ama they won't be answering my questions as they haven't before. So this still stays the only forum where i can raise them as i get blocked in the chat. Which i find weird when i am not trolling or fudding.

Also:

Ask & Share 32 000 BFG + $200 USDT
-
5 winners with the best questions will get 6 400 BFG each.
🔸Special prize: 200 users will get $200 in USDT from BSC Daily.

I am assuming that no one is getting $200 but it will be distributed between 200 users as that 32 000 BFG gets divided with 5 people
Otherwise they would be saying 200 users will get $40000 in USDT

[delfastTions]

There will be an AMA session on
-cut-
Guys, just keep in mind that this does not mean that we will be able to see BFG on Binance anytime soon
-cut-

I gasped for a moment as i had never heard of Binance Live before.
I am very carefully optimistic to get answers but at the same time i am assuming that this ama will focus mainly on the legacy event and while this is ama they won't be answering my questions as they haven't before. So this still stays the only forum where i can raise them as i get blocked in the chat. Which i find weird when i am not trolling or fudding.

Also:

Ask & Share 32 000 BFG + $200 USDT
-
5 winners with the best questions will get 6 400 BFG each.
🔸Special prize: 200 users will get $200 in USDT from BSC Daily.

I am assuming that no one is getting $200 but it will be distributed between 200 users as that 32 000 BFG gets divided with 5 people
Otherwise they would be saying 200 users will get $40000 in USDT

It seems to me that when the casino rewards the most worthy, from the point of view of some specialists in marketing and promotion of the services of the casino itself, then of course the prize fund will be divided into several participants.  I think $200 is too much to reward many players at once.  This is quite a big expense from the nude bet, apparently, and it is unlikely that devs will go for such large payouts in droves.  But the most important thing is that the effect of such a promotion will still be the same as if the prize were not $200, but, for example, $10 or $20.  Or in general, even $5,
I can understand that getting even such small, symbolic amounts from the casino is very pleasant for the players. 
There is no way to make these advertising payouts big.  It's too wasteful for a casino.  And this cannot be done under any circumstances.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Kucoin is decent exchange where projects good to go with since it have also a lot of traders and a reputable exchange. If BFG could set some good updates regarding on planned or maybe have discussion to get listed their for sure their holders or other more people will get curious about their project and maybe this might convert to another demand. Its just they need to push through with this since listing on reputable exchange is somehow long discussed or want by people here.

It is that the requirements for Kucoin are not so strong , you just have to have the desire to delete the token there, nothing else, everything is in the hands of the team, I would not tell them to think about Binance, but I would tell them to leave for an exchange like Kucoin, which is widely accepted and its volume is good, and over time if they want to include it in Binance is the team's decision, but for a centralized exchange, the best one for now is Kucoin, I would also change the name Faced with the token, perhaps it would grow more in price.

There will be an AMA session on
-cut-
Guys, just keep in mind that this does not mean that we will be able to see BFG on Binance anytime soon
-cut-

I gasped for a moment as i had never heard of Binance Live before.
I am very carefully optimistic to get answers but at the same time i am assuming that this ama will focus mainly on the legacy event and while this is ama they won't be answering my questions as they haven't before. So this still stays the only forum where i can raise them as i get blocked in the chat. Which i find weird when i am not trolling or fudding.

Also:

Ask & Share 32 000 BFG + $200 USDT
-
5 winners with the best questions will get 6 400 BFG each.
🔸Special prize: 200 users will get $200 in USDT from BSC Daily.

I am assuming that no one is getting $200 but it will be distributed between 200 users as that 32 000 BFG gets divided with 5 people
Otherwise they would be saying 200 users will get $40000 in USDT

It seems to me that when the casino rewards the most worthy, from the point of view of some specialists in marketing and promotion of the services of the casino itself, then of course the prize fund will be divided into several participants.  I think $200 is too much to reward many players at once.  This is quite a big expense from the nude bet, apparently, and it is unlikely that devs will go for such large payouts in droves.  But the most important thing is that the effect of such a promotion will still be the same as if the prize were not $200, but, for example, $10 or $20.  Or in general, even $5,
I can understand that getting even such small, symbolic amounts from the casino is very pleasant for the players. 
There is no way to make these advertising payouts big.  It's too wasteful for a casino.  And this cannot be done under any circumstances.

It may be that now they are taking this initiative to be able to attract more clients, it is obvious that many people have left the casino disappointed, in fact in the Spanish telegram section I did not like a way that one of the mods responded and I in particular, so now they want to do everything in another way to see if they can something from more customers, I know that the casino has had Problems,so they have to try something to see how it goes.

[babygun]

Your experienced, your opinion, and for sure there are different opinion with gambler who manage to work out with combo/parlay types of betting strategy, I don't have any argument or much better to say that I believe that your personal experience dictates that for you it's better to use a single bet and risk your money compared to a value bet that for me most of the time can ruin your bet.

A single mistake will cause you to lose your pick, but same deal with a single bet if shit happen it will be still the same outcome to you.

You are right in that as you can't win every bet, but the ROI (for me) was more positive than compared to combo bets. I placed a lot of them before and I always got 3/4 or 4/5 and most of the times, the bet with the lowest odd ruined the bet. Same as Klarki, I still place them but these are more funbets with high odds but till date never got really lucky to win them.

[tusandii]

Your experienced, your opinion, and for sure there are different opinion with gambler who manage to work out with combo/parlay types of betting strategy, I don't have any argument or much better to say that I believe that your personal experience dictates that for you it's better to use a single bet and risk your money compared to a value bet that for me most of the time can ruin your bet.

A single mistake will cause you to lose your pick, but same deal with a single bet if shit happen it will be still the same outcome to you.

I've also done combo or parlay bets in sports betting but it only makes me lose more money.
I will not repeat this mistake even though it has a higher percentage of profits than a single bet but instead loses money even bigger than a single bet.
For those gamblers who can take advantage of combo or parlay bets, maybe they will continue to bet, but it seems difficult to be able to do research or predictions when betting using this method.
I wasn't disappointed, it's just that this experience taught me a lesson that I have to be able to bet well and choose which ones can really give me an advantage.

[TopTort777]

Ask & Share 32 000 BFG + $200 USDT
-
5 winners with the best questions will get 6 400 BFG each.
🔸Special prize: 200 users will get $200 in USDT from BSC Daily.

I am assuming that no one is getting $200

I assume that the question "when Binance?" is not going to be among best questions

Check out previous AMAs on https://www.binance.com/en/live/u/26755713. This looks like a podcast of their own blogger on their own video hosting. (yet I did not manage to find AMA video somewhere besides Binance). What I am saying that this wont get huge amount of viewers and views (but, that increases chances to get AMA reward). Like klarki said - dont expect much from that AMA, as this BSCDaily isnt the most important person in Binance hierarchy.

[Fredomago]

Your experienced, your opinion, and for sure there are different opinion with gambler who manage to work out with combo/parlay types of betting strategy, I don't have any argument or much better to say that I believe that your personal experience dictates that for you it's better to use a single bet and risk your money compared to a value bet that for me most of the time can ruin your bet.

A single mistake will cause you to lose your pick, but same deal with a single bet if shit happen it will be still the same outcome to you.

I've also done combo or parlay bets in sports betting but it only makes me lose more money.
I will not repeat this mistake even though it has a higher percentage of profits than a single bet but instead loses money even bigger than a single bet.
For those gamblers who can take advantage of combo or parlay bets, maybe they will continue to bet, but it seems difficult to be able to do research or predictions when betting using this method.
I wasn't disappointed, it's just that this experience taught me a lesson that I have to be able to bet well and choose which ones can really give me an advantage.

The sole purpose of taking the parlay is to make your winning much larger, compare to single bet especially those bet for heavy favorite, the odd is small so gambler who have high confidence with their knowledge pick parlay or combo betting to make it better if luck permits them to win all the games that they've selected.

But like what all of us understand, just a single game that loss the whole parlay will lose together placing your bet at total risk.

[o48o]

It is really difficult to correctly predict the combo bets because here you need to predict few bets correctly in order to win the money. Even if you lost one bet, you will lose the combo bet. So it is really risky to go for combo bets.
The only reason why people will try their luck on these bets is that if they win these combo bets, the reward will be much higher as compared to win a single bet.

If you ask me, i will prefer to win a single bet even though my profit ratio will be less but it is better to avoid the loss by not playing the combo bets.

That's why it has better pay offs when you win. Higher the risk, higher the reward, it's based just on math. When you try to catch on easier bets you will have lower reward ratio.
Both of the styles can equally make you ton of money and both can make you rekt. There's no right or wrong way to gamble, there are just personal preferences.

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[klarki]

I assume that the question "when Binance?" is not going to be among best questions

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