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November 24, 2023, 09:14:01 AM |
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Using VPN while it isnt allowed is tricky. They allow to lose and win money, but in a different scenario, usage of VPN can cause withdrawal problems (they can lock account after a big win for example). I dont think this is fair.
The easy thing is to ask their service support or other support team about using a VPN, after all, sometimes people often experience this because they are lazy to ask about the terms of using VPN on the site, each casino site always has different requirements and regulations, so don't be shy. to ask so that it doesn't become a new problem for anyone. It's true that there are cases of accounts being frozen and withdrawals being held due to VPN use, but that's only on some casino sites because not all casinos prohibit it, I personally don't know Betfury's terms and regulations but there's no harm in asking anyone in this thread or support service on their site about VPN use. because there are some countries that may prohibit gambling and cannot access gambling, so you have to use a VPN. Indeed it easy to ask, as consultation is always free. But the way casinos answer, it is usually a very general information like "according to our rules" and a copy-pasted clause from ToS or "it isnt allowed and use it at own risk". Often support answer like there is not much of an answer to a question.
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November 24, 2023, 01:42:42 PM |
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions. This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play. I think the point is that, as long as a gambling casino allows their users to make use of vpn for what ever purpose, trust that alot of users will abuse that privilege. I have never played on BetFury before using a vpn, whether for privacy of whatever, and neither did I even know that it was safe to use vpn on the site aside the fact I am just learning about it here. But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact. Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country. VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.
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November 24, 2023, 01:53:40 PM |
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions. One of the things that changed over the years is that they acquired a license. From that moment on, a lot of countries were on the restricted list but as you mention, they allow the use of a VPN to keep using their website.
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November 24, 2023, 02:59:56 PM |
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Guys, I am currently playing some slot games on BetFury in order to see if I could meet up with a wager requirement of a bonus I just claimed from btcgosu some few hours ago, but I currently lack ideas on which slot game to play to better my chances of completing the wager requirement which is about $750, and also coming out with some profit at the end of it all.
Though there is a limited number of slot games the system allows me to play since i am playing from my bonus account, I still will or would very much appreciate suggestions on which slot games to choose, and what provider is best, currently, I've been playing only games from pragmatic, share with me some slot games with low house edge if you any.
Thanks very much in anticipation.
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November 24, 2023, 04:16:52 PM |
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions. This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play. I think the point is that, as long as a gambling casino allows their users to make use of vpn for what ever purpose, trust that alot of users will abuse that privilege. I have never played on BetFury before using a vpn, whether for privacy of whatever, and neither did I even know that it was safe to use vpn on the site aside the fact I am just learning about it here. But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact. Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country. VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine. I have used many casino sites some of which I can't access normally but I have accessed them through VPN but never faced any problem but for Betfurry I never used VPN as it is smooth access for my country without VPN. So I don't have much experience whether accessing this site using vpn will have any problem and is it vpn friendly.
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November 25, 2023, 04:34:53 AM |
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Guys, I am currently playing some slot games on BetFury in order to see if I could meet up with a wager requirement of a bonus I just claimed from btcgosu some few hours ago, but I currently lack ideas on which slot game to play to better my chances of completing the wager requirement which is about $750, and also coming out with some profit at the end of it all.
Though there is a limited number of slot games the system allows me to play since i am playing from my bonus account, I still will or would very much appreciate suggestions on which slot games to choose, and what provider is best, currently, I've been playing only games from pragmatic, share with me some slot games with low house edge if you any.
Thanks very much in anticipation.
Slot games are the same across all platforms, nothing different here. But I don't know if you can earn money with free spain from your bonus. Here it says to meet a demand of $750. If you can play Spain and meet the demand of $750, you may be able to withdraw your funds, but I think you will lose before you meet your $750 demand. So I want to tell you that if you end up playing 77 Free Spain as entertainment without spending enough time here, it will not be a waste of your time.
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dwyane36
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November 25, 2023, 09:12:27 AM |
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Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country.
VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.
Betfury managers wrote about using VPNs earlier. Here is their post. Based on this post, I conclude that they are more concerned about those users who abuse and create multi-accounts than those who use VPN to access the site. Personally, I have used a VPN to access the Betfury site many times, and my Betfury account still has no problems because of it. Anyway, if you still have doubts about this, it's better to ask Betfury support directly about it.
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November 25, 2023, 12:43:32 PM |
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Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country.
VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.
Betfury managers wrote about using VPNs earlier. Here is their post. Based on this post, I conclude that they are more concerned about those users who abuse and create multi-accounts than those who use VPN to access the site. Personally, I have used a VPN to access the Betfury site many times, and my Betfury account still has no problems because of it. Anyway, if you still have doubts about this, it's better to ask Betfury support directly about it. Actually multi accounting is more discourage to do so I think this is the main thing to avoid rather than VPN since as said Betfury manager allow to use it so provably there's no further more question to be ask since there's already a statement given by their representative. But we can't still convince people since some of them are just so careful regarding on this since maybe they experience a worst thing by using it on other casino so to calm their minds towards this its really best to ask them since I think they can give more clear explanation about everything they want to ask.
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November 25, 2023, 01:08:31 PM |
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I have used many casino sites some of which I can't access normally but I have accessed them through VPN but never faced any problem but for Betfurry I never used VPN as it is smooth access for my country without VPN. So I don't have much experience whether accessing this site using vpn will have any problem and is it vpn friendly.
I have also gambled through vpn on many gambling websites before. But till now I have not faced any issue with using VPN on them, there is the stake in them, moreover, I used to use Gamdom long ago. I have used VPN to withdraw money on them but have not faced any problems. However, I will say that gambling using VPN is risky in most cases, in many cases you will not face any problems because your gambling amount is low but when your gambling amount will be high then accessing a casino website using vpn will may cause of freeze your account. So I would say that in terms of gambling, it would be better to gamble on all the websites where gambling can be done without vpn in your country.
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November 25, 2023, 01:33:22 PM |
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Aren't Betfury able to identify browser cookies where if you use TOR or VPN using Firefox, for example, they will know that this user uses VPN and a regular browser on two accounts?
Since Betfury hasn't hunted them down yet, I think their loss because of them aren't yet substantial enough to affect their business. They still could tolerate those abuses for now.
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babygun
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November 25, 2023, 02:12:35 PM |
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Aren't Betfury able to identify browser cookies where if you use TOR or VPN using Firefox, for example, they will know that this user uses VPN and a regular browser on two accounts?
Since Betfury hasn't hunted them down yet, I think their loss because of them aren't yet substantial enough to affect their business. They still could tolerate those abuses for now.
I think there are always on the lookout to shut down double account and abusers. Why would they lower over the years the free crypto you could claim from the boxes? Main reason was the multi accounts; so the problem is real and this is probably a problem that a lot of casinos deal with!
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AbuBhakar
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November 25, 2023, 03:32:00 PM |
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Aren't Betfury able to identify browser cookies where if you use TOR or VPN using Firefox, for example, they will know that this user uses VPN and a regular browser on two accounts?
Since Betfury hasn't hunted them down yet, I think their loss because of them aren't yet substantial enough to affect their business. They still could tolerate those abuses for now.
I think they are cracking down this account silently but only those showing abuse since it’s very easy to create an account by just connecting wallet address. I have multiple account on Betfury but I don’t use them at the same time. It just happened that I frequently change wallet address and I really don’t care my VIP level when playing on Betfury since I just want to bet quickly using my web3 wallet. So far my account is still safe.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions. I mean that is what most other casinos do as well, it is not really a new idea, most of the time they have to legally say that they can't accept players from certain nations and it's banned, and even a reason to kick a player out, but then when you use VPN they nudge you towards that solution. This isn't just about betfury neither, every single casino out there does that like for example my nation is blocked in every single casino that I play in, there isn't a single place that doesn't ban my nation, and yet I still get to gamble in all of them because I use VPN and that makes it easier, and some of them even accept without VPN as well, riskier move but shows you how much they care about that, it's just they have to put it up for legal reasons.
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November 25, 2023, 09:04:06 PM |
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions. They usually restrict countries where people have enough money to gamble regularly, the list of restricted countries includes a lot of wealthy countries. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a formal thing and they allow users to play with VPN from different countries but according to law, they have the right to seize your account if they find out that you access them from restricted country but I think it's better for everyone to figure that out with casino at first because I heard from one user that Stake let him to gamble on their website despite the fact that user was from a restricted country.
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November 26, 2023, 02:10:52 AM |
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions. They usually restrict countries where people have enough money to gamble regularly, the list of restricted countries includes a lot of wealthy countries. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a formal thing and they allow users to play with VPN from different countries but according to law, they have the right to seize your account if they find out that you access them from restricted country but I think it's better for everyone to figure that out with casino at first because I heard from one user that Stake let him to gamble on their website despite the fact that user was from a restricted country. First, let me state that based on what I know, Stake does not allow players from restricted countries to access and play on the casino, except the user is using some services, like a paid VPN service to comofladge their actual location, or where exactly they are playing/accessing the casino from. Atleast, to confirm this, we have had multiple accusations from different users on this forum in the past who complained about being slammed with an all level kyc verification process, and after investigations, we discover that the user was requested to pass all level verification because he or she is gambling from a restricted region by the help of a vpn. Secondly, a casino can not ban a user for using VPN to access the casino if they did not say anything about that in their terms of service, so if BetFury does have some countries they restricted, and users from that countries are using VPN to still access and play on BetFury, by law, they can not ban does such users with their fund confiscated if they(betfury) didn't warn users against the use of vpn to access the casino in their terms of service or terms and conditions.
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At first glance, 60% APR sounds good. However, if you check the terms of the new steaking program, you will find that this APR can only be obtained by locking assets for 1 year and choosing pool type Fixed-Term, which implies mandatory wagering. For example, if you decide to stake 1k usdt on Betfury, you will have to wager at least 6k usdt every month to get those 60% APR. Now that's not so attractive, is it?
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This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.
But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact. I won’t argue to this facts. In fact they are using this kind of information as misleading to support their illegal access to the casino. A person in the right mind will now that they are still breaking the law despite casino allow VPN while the player itself is not allowed to gamble due to their country law. Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens.
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November 28, 2023, 09:36:16 AM |
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Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens.
It seems to me that the Betfury team has over-insured itself in this aspect and has shifted the responsibility for this directly to the users. In fact, they note in paragraph 3.3 of the rules that the user should be aware of the illegality of gambling in certain countries and should also warrant to betfury that gambling is not illegal in the jurisdiction where he resides.
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Anyone of your already tried NFT Lootboxes? I am looking on spins history, and it does not look like it is very popular. Either people dont understand and want to try it, or NFT does not attract them. Personally, I dont believe in all that NFT thing, dont believe in their value, so I spend few bucks, won like few cents and went back to more default games P.S. Sometimes it is both hard to believe and looks shocking, when a guy makes a 1.5k purchase and wins 76k worth Bored Ape Yacht club NFT with 0.77% chance to win only. I mean there are lots of less risky games there for a 1.5k single bet.
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November 28, 2023, 09:47:52 AM |
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This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.
But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact. I won’t argue to this facts. In fact they are using this kind of information as misleading to support their illegal access to the casino. A person in the right mind will now that they are still breaking the law despite casino allow VPN while the player itself is not allowed to gamble due to their country law. Casino is very strict with this matter since it will cost them their license once proven that they accept players from restricted country especially US citizens. This is true actually, the casino probably knows that allowing players from restricted region to use or access the casino could cost them their operational license, but the still allow VPN usage on their casino for privacy reasons, which i personally believe is a good thing for the gamblers. But on the other hand, is there any measure that the casino has put in place to enable them catch users who will be abusing the privilege given to them by the casino allowing users to use VPN? i believe this is the big question after all, because if for this reason, anything happens to the casino that causes it to go offline, the operators of this casino may not be affected as much since i suppose they all have made their money and are all living a very comfortable lives, those who are going to suffer the rot so hard are the innocent players/users who have their funds trapped io the casino, or more miserable will be those who are participating in the fixed staking currently. Anyways, this is just me thinking out loud, nothing to take serious if actually there is none.
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