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[freedomgo]

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Although they allow the usage of VPN but they discourage to do so especially if they bypass restriction so people should not use VPN if they know that their country is listed on restricted regions on Betfury since maybe they would really encounter an issue their.

Also I guess they just introduce their promotion for short period of time and they didn't need any long term exposure that's the reason why they immediately close their campaign after they get what they want.

That's what I'm a bit curious with this statement.

Besides, in my region Betfury works only through VPN.

Because the way I understand it, gambling maybe illegal in their country, so using a VPN to access it would violate the TOS since it bypasses restrictions. Personally, I wouldn't risk that much, and maybe $1000 is just an amount he can afford to lose in case Betfury finds out and freezes his funds.

[TopTort777]

That's what I'm a bit curious with this statement.

Besides, in my region Betfury works only through VPN.

Because the way I understand it, gambling maybe illegal in their country, so using a VPN to access it would violate the TOS since it bypasses restrictions.

It is funny that most of the online crypto casinos are banned in my country, and I can play all the games, but sports betting is restricted. I can play all games and place bets on duelbits ( *cough* *promo* *cough* ), but stake.com for example is fully inaccessible without VPN. And sometimes I can open Roobet page, sometimes I get restricted on index page.

Are you guys participating in their telegram game? Have you collected many coins already? Strange that BetFury has paused signature campaign that was to promote that thing.

[shield132]

we can see that there are casinos that are proven to be scams that force them to continue running campaigns on forums in the past. Maybe gamblers will still have an assessment of the casino's reputation.

Those casinos that continue to operate despite receiving negative tags may be forced to stop eventually, as that will only result in their money running dry. We are in a forum where running a business is measured by its reputation, so if a casino has a bad reputation, what's the purpose of marketing if they are not getting a positive result? People here are not naive and they understand how the forum works and can see if a certain casino with an ANN thread can be trusted or not.

Casinos come here to build a positive reputation first. As they grow a positive reputation, they will slowly become popular and attract more gamblers to their platform. However, the moment they ruin their reputation, it becomes hard to fix, and gamblers will easily leave, so that's most likely the end of their life here.

Bitfury only has 1 negative trust and it's about changing the affiliate deal, it's not about casino scamming users and not letting them withdraw their money. In overall, their negative trust is visible on their profile account. When someone googles something, visits Bitcointalk and checks answer from an user that wears a signature campaign of casino, I think that this new guest will click on the signature and visit the casino. People don't put much effort into investigation of the reputation of the casino they play. If they like deals, they'll register. It's only us, long-time members that know what trust rating on Bitcointalk means. Newbies only come here and check trust of casino when they get scammed.
To sum up, casino with negative trust rating will not be able to attract local audience but they'll be able to acquire non-bitcointalk users that came here through search engines or other sources.

[dwyane36]

This is what I found when trying to seek for information if they allow to use VPN.

Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.

Although they allow the usage of VPN but they discourage to do so especially if they bypass restriction so people should not use VPN if they know that their country is listed on restricted regions on Betfury since maybe they would really encounter an issue their.

Also I guess they just introduce their promotion for short period of time and they didn't need any long term exposure that's the reason why they immediately close their campaign after they get what they want.

Betfury's Terms of Service specify too large a list of countries whose users are not allowed to use their platform. I think that Betfury, as well as some other gambling platforms, just turn a blind eye to the fact that some users use VPNs to bypass formal restrictions. I mean, if Betfury would really scrupulously control the geo-location of users, there would be very little activity on their site.

[iv4n]

Betfury's Terms of Service specify too large a list of countries whose users are not allowed to use their platform. I think that Betfury, as well as some other gambling platforms, just turn a blind eye to the fact that some users use VPNs to bypass formal restrictions. I mean, if Betfury would really scrupulously control the geo-location of users, there would be very little activity on their site.

You are totally right about this, many crypto casinos would stay without many customers if they didn't turn a blind eye to some formal geo-restrictions. In crypto casinos, there are players from all over the world and most players are certainly involved in crypto somehow. So their marketing is focused on the crypto space. Just a few casinos advertise to a bigger audience with sports ambassadors and sponsor some big sports clubs.

It's not a bad result, but don't forget to check the app after calculating the results in the 3/4th quarter. I think you can expect a nice bonus at the end of this event.
p.s.
I wonder if there are a lot of betfury users who actively gamble directly on the Betfury site, but don't follow social networks and don't participate in such events.

Thanks, Dwyane. I will try to remember that one. We will see what the prize will be...

I follow many casinos and their social networks, but I don't participate in many giveaways and free things, so I miss a lot of things... I think many people just gamble, these free stuff on casino channels are full of abusers and spammers.

[UserU]

All in all, I believe that we are going to end up with BFG failing to go as high as we want it to be as long as this is the path. We need the team to figure out some sort of different path for it to take, some way to make it more popular, otherwise just like all other casino tokens, it is not going to end up with anything profitable at all, just seems not that enticing to anyone.

Many of us don't really care much about the price appreciation anymore tbh. Just letting them yield dividends.

[Slow death]

That's what I'm a bit curious with this statement.

Besides, in my region Betfury works only through VPN.

Because the way I understand it, gambling maybe illegal in their country, so using a VPN to access it would violate the TOS since it bypasses restrictions.

It is funny that most of the online crypto casinos are banned in my country, and I can play all the games, but sports betting is restricted. I can play all games and place bets on duelbits ( *cough* *promo* *cough* ), but stake.com for example is fully inaccessible without VPN. And sometimes I can open Roobet page, sometimes I get restricted on index page.

Are you guys participating in their telegram game? Have you collected many coins already? Strange that BetFury has paused signature campaign that was to promote that thing.

I don't participate in their telegram game, I also don't have any tokens because I see the advantage of keeping casino tokens, my purpose when I go to play is to have fun, even when I lose I don't get stuck, when I put money into my account. bank to make investments in cryptocurrencies, I only look at bitcoin and aim for a profit of 3x to 4x in 3 years, if it goes up more than that I will be happier, if it is the maximum that the price of bitcoin reaches I will also be happy. now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

something that I congratulate a lot on, without a doubt that everything is going well in this part, but as for the token price part, you should always be very careful, you shouldn't put too much money in and you shouldn't put too many expectations that the Investing in the token will result in high profits, because the person will not. There are many casinos and more casinos are still coming, the market is very competitive and only a few casinos are financially well off to the point of having funds for marketing in a stable and long-term manner.

[dwyane36]

now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

If I'm not mistaken, only Betfury's first signature campaign on this forum was more or less long, and all their other campaigns were short. The fact that their last signature campaign lasted only 2 weeks means nothing about whether they have a lot of money for marketing or not. Their marketing team is probably looking for different ways to promote the current event. At least I recently saw their promotional post in one of the crypto telegram channels.

[avp2306]

now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

If I'm not mistaken, only Betfury's first signature campaign on this forum was more or less long, and all their other campaigns were short. The fact that their last signature campaign lasted only 2 weeks means nothing about whether they have a lot of money for marketing or not. Their marketing team is probably looking for different ways to promote the current event. At least I recently saw their promotional post in one of the crypto telegram channels.

Maybe they only need 2 weeks to promote their latest promotion that's why it only last for few weeks. But now we don't see any marketing efforts done and they are back for relying on people discussion then their thread will be up and get an exposure due to that situation.

But who knows maybe after what they have done earlier maybe they would realize again that its good to market their casino in this forum. Maybe they are looking for different ways and I guess they should try to grab a banner ads from famous site which other big casinos do since for sure they can also get lots of exposure from those well known sites.  I don't know if they have marketing funds issue but if they could just separate some money for that use then provably that they can maximize their exposure then maybe gather a lot more gamblers to play on their casino.

[Agbe]

I was not thinking of Betfury to run that campaign for just 2 weeks because Betfury is not a company that just come to the forum or the system, but it has been in the forum for years now so I was expecting them to stay for like a minimum of 2 years to make their advertisement because they even just launched their airdrop in telegram and tht means they need more marketing to increase the participation but everything was short live. Well it might be tht their marketing budget was not big enough to run the campaign for a long time.

[Awaklara]

I was not thinking of Betfury to run that campaign for just 2 weeks because Betfury is not a company that just come to the forum or the system, but it has been in the forum for years now so I was expecting them to stay for like a minimum of 2 years to make their advertisement because they even just launched their airdrop in telegram and tht means they need more marketing to increase the participation but everything was short live. Well it might be tht their marketing budget was not big enough to run the campaign for a long time.

If I'm not mistaken, the campaign manager makes the campaign status HOLD. Of course, this is related to the funds in escrow which are limited to 2 weeks only.
I'm sure the campaign manager has contacted the marketing team about whether the campaign will continue. Maybe there has been no further discussion or reply from the team which means the campaign status has not been changed.

[Slow death]

now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

If I'm not mistaken, only Betfury's first signature campaign on this forum was more or less long, and all their other campaigns were short. The fact that their last signature campaign lasted only 2 weeks means nothing about whether they have a lot of money for marketing or not. Their marketing team is probably looking for different ways to promote the current event. At least I recently saw their promotional post in one of the crypto telegram channels.

Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.

In other words, short-term signature campaign end due to lack of funds and lack of long-term marketing planning on the part of companies. Everyone knows that a company needs a long-term marketing campaign, because the market is very competitive. So when a company fails to have funds to run continuous marketing for the long term, then the financial health of that company is not very good, it means that that company is running on very tight revenues in which they need to save money for operational costs and have a low profit. I don't want to say that the casino is in this situation, I'm just talking about what I've seen in most cases of companies that are unable to have funds for long-term marketing

I was not thinking of Betfury to run that campaign for just 2 weeks because Betfury is not a company that just come to the forum or the system, but it has been in the forum for years now so I was expecting them to stay for like a minimum of 2 years to make their advertisement because they even just launched their airdrop in telegram and tht means they need more marketing to increase the participation but everything was short live. Well it might be tht their marketing budget was not big enough to run the campaign for a long time.

In my case, I'm honestly not surprised by the fact that they don't even have a long-term signature campaign, because even being active on the forum took a while for them to disappear. they have the token, we all know that token creators have a lot of money when they create tokens and then disappear, they stay on X giving news to see if the price of the token goes up. just go to the altcoins section and you will see this. So I see the casino not caring much about this marketing part because they are establishing themselves, they have a certain number of fixed customers and they don't have goals of being the biggest casino. So they will not run medium or long-term marketing campaigns here on the forum and probably not even outside the forum. There is nothing wrong with that. As I said, the casino is running smoothly for people

[Mate2237]

Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.

In other words, short-term signature campaign end due to lack of funds and lack of long-term marketing planning on the part of companies. Everyone knows that a company needs a long-term marketing campaign, because the market is very competitive. So when a company fails to have funds to run continuous marketing for the long term, then the financial health of that company is not very good, it means that that company is running on very tight revenues in which they need to save money for operational costs and have a low profit. I don't want to say that the casino is in this situation, I'm just talking about what I've seen in most cases of companies that are unable to have funds for long-term marketing

I think those campaigns were cancelled or stopped because of lack of long term plan. Because if a campaign advertisement was plan for a long term then there is no way the campaign would stopped half way. When TrustDice came, it was a new campaign came to the forum and that was 2022 and it is running till now and they have gotten enough customers. If a casino company launched a campaign and expecting traffic within 1 one month is even wrong because because within this period gamblers that are using other casinos are looking or observing the casino and it f the casino stop within 1 one month then many gamblers would conclude that this casino is good to use so let me continue with the one that is active here.

If a casino doesn't have enough funds to run a long term campaign then they should not launch the campaign yet but they can create their ANN thread here and continue discussing how the site is and through there too some gamblers can check out the site. Until when they are fully ready for the long term marketing then they can launch the campaign. And when a campaign run for long term and from the the second year, it would have enough customers.

[o48o]

Betfury's Terms of Service specify too large a list of countries whose users are not allowed to use their platform. I think that Betfury, as well as some other gambling platforms, just turn a blind eye to the fact that some users use VPNs to bypass formal restrictions. I mean, if Betfury would really scrupulously control the geo-location of users, there would be very little activity on their site.

I don't think that many of these sites even care if people log in from restricted countries without vpn as long as they don't admit they are from restricted location. I remember looking at some casinos with website's traffic analyzer while ago, and saw that sometimes the major traffic came from casino's restricted countries. If that traffic was indeed gamblers from those countries, i am thinking at some point something is going to be done about it. 

I am not judging anyone for doing that, but personally i wouldn't have the guts to wait for the day i get banned, and there would be nothing i could do it if i violated their ToS such a major way.

[Strongkored]

Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.

You can't conclude when you are not part of the casino or the campaign manager who held the signature campaign, because they are the ones who best understand why there are casinos that hold very short campaigns, you can only guess. All companies hope for success in promotions as quickly as possible no matter how much money they have, because if the short time does not guarantee success, neither does the long term because casino success is not only from the campaigns they hold on this forum but also from other things, because players don't just come from this forum.

[iv4n]

All in all, I believe that we are going to end up with BFG failing to go as high as we want it to be as long as this is the path. We need the team to figure out some sort of different path for it to take, some way to make it more popular, otherwise just like all other casino tokens, it is not going to end up with anything profitable at all, just seems not that enticing to anyone.

Many of us don't really care much about the price appreciation anymore tbh. Just letting them yield dividends.

Many people fail to realize this, it's all about dividends, and the price will not go as high as some expect. All casino tokens are pretty much similar, they are in their range, and just some of them have spikes from time to time.

Casino tokens are profitable when we have a lot of them and we claim nice daily prizes from staking them. I don't wish to bother with math and ROI for people who decide to buy casino tokens, it's nice when we play & mine those tokens and collect rewards. Those who don't like it can sell their tokens and move to something else.

[arwin100]

Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.

You can't conclude when you are not part of the casino or the campaign manager who held the signature campaign, because they are the ones who best understand why there are casinos that hold very short campaigns, you can only guess. All companies hope for success in promotions as quickly as possible no matter how much money they have, because if the short time does not guarantee success, neither does the long term because casino success is not only from the campaigns they hold on this forum but also from other things, because players don't just come from this forum.

We can't conclude but we can observe the result of the activities they have done.

Even if they run a short campaign then maybe we can say that its effective since it erase up the thoughts of people that its like they are not doing anything and also they are successful for making their thread have a activity since people are now having a discussions about many things about happenings in their casino.

I guess Betfury management didn't really need a long exposure since maybe they know that their casino is stable for now.

They will only came up then open a signature campaign when there's something important that needed to promote.

[dwyane36]

I don't think that many of these sites even care if people log in from restricted countries without vpn as long as they don't admit they are from restricted location. I remember looking at some casinos with website's traffic analyzer while ago, and saw that sometimes the major traffic came from casino's restricted countries. If that traffic was indeed gamblers from those countries, i am thinking at some point something is going to be done about it. 

I am not judging anyone for doing that, but personally i wouldn't have the guts to wait for the day i get banned, and there would be nothing i could do it if i violated their ToS such a major way.

I think many casinos want the regulators not to have any formal questions for them. But at the same time, casinos want to get as much profit as possible. This is probably typical for many gambling platforms, especially crypto gambling platforms. As for Betfury, I honestly don't remember any case when they would ban a user because of a VPN or because of entering their site from a restricted region.

[Unsoldier]

I don't think that many of these sites even care if people log in from restricted countries without vpn as long as they don't admit they are from restricted location. I remember looking at some casinos with website's traffic analyzer while ago, and saw that sometimes the major traffic came from casino's restricted countries. If that traffic was indeed gamblers from those countries, i am thinking at some point something is going to be done about it. 

I am not judging anyone for doing that, but personally i wouldn't have the guts to wait for the day i get banned, and there would be nothing i could do it if i violated their ToS such a major way.

I think many casinos want the regulators not to have any formal questions for them. But at the same time, casinos want to get as much profit as possible. This is probably typical for many gambling platforms, especially crypto gambling platforms. As for Betfury, I honestly don't remember any case when they would ban a user because of a VPN or because of entering their site from a restricted region.

I have always accessed the Betfury website via VPN, and I have never once encountered a blocking or banning issue. Every time I've used the VPN to access, the platform has functioned without any restrictions or warnings. Betfury really doesn't seem to take any action against users using a VPN, even if they are logging in from restricted regions. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the platform targets an international audience.

[o48o]

I have always accessed the Betfury website via VPN, and I have never once encountered a blocking or banning issue. Every time I've used the VPN to access, the platform has functioned without any restrictions or warnings. Betfury really doesn't seem to take any action against users using a VPN, even if they are logging in from restricted regions. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the platform targets an international audience.

You mean that unofficially they target international audience? I am guessing they target anyone they can and hope they get away with it. But this just makes me think that they aren't planning for long time growth, because this is not the planned road. It just looks like that they want to go around regulations as long as they get away with it.

I hope you luck and that i am wrong, because i am guessing that if and when this site finally shuts down, they have planned it in a way they can disappear. And it's not like any of their users who log in via VPN would have legal claim for their money anyway.