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[serjent05]

Well Relax slots are known for its volatility though but Deadwood from No Limit City is probably the most volatile slot ever.

Agree, I play once and banned that game from my slot game.

Lol, I feel you, i have been getting lots of reds (loses) on this provider, probably due to its game being high to extremely volatile. 

Anyway, for deposit you guys should check finally CHIPPS add (+) button for a deposit on in the right balance.

This additional feature brings a lot of conveniences.   

[tygeade]

Well Relax slots are known for its volatility though but Deadwood from No Limit City is probably the most volatile slot ever.

Agree, I play once and banned that game from my slot game.

Lol, I feel you, i have been getting lots of reds (loses) on this provider, probably due to its game being high to extremely volatile. 

Not every game is the same, some games for example give you a small return even when you lose on slots, like for example you get 0.5x back and lose half of your wager and rarely ever hit zero, but you do not get a huge amount of win. And some games are like you lose almost all the time but when you win you win like 999x and that is how you take it back.

Games are quite different from each other here, the odds change a lot and that game could be a lot more volatile than you want it to be. This is why I think it is quite obvious we should not be focusing on something that doesn't make us happy, if you feel bad about one slot and you do not want to gamble there, there are a lot more other places that you could gamble and have fun with. I do not play on the same slot for way too long, I just skip around and pick the ones I will feel better about and basically rank them for myself.

[Betwrong]

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The idea is, the max payout/multiplier is not the only one to decide a slot game has higher volatility than the other game.

Exactly, there has been several videos that shown 50,000x hit in Money Train 2 but I dont think I've ever seen someone hit 13,950x in Deadwood ( I probably missed this, feel free to show me the videos in case if someone has )

Here's what I think, guys. Money Train 2's RTP is 96.4%, and  Deadwood's is 96.03 %. Let's consider them equal, because unless we make millions of spins, we actually can't notice the difference. Now, if RTP is the same but one slot's max payout is more than 3 times higher than that of the other one, doesn't that mean that the volatility of the former is higher? How else they can make up for those big payouts, especially if 50,000x hits on MT2 happen more frequently than 13,950x hits in Deadwood?

[arallmuus]

doesn't that mean that the volatility of the former is higher? How else they can make up for those big payouts, especially if 50,000x hits on MT2 happen more frequently than 13,950x hits in Deadwood?

The RTP isnt the same though and its unfair to assume that both are same. I just noticed that it seems Deadwood has another variation with lower RTP (cmiiw). In this case, Deadwood has higher volatility compared to Money Train 2 which is probably the reason why there hasnt any record that shown 13,950x being hit (atleast that I know of).





Source : https://www.nolimitcity.com/games/deadwood-xnudge/

Cant find similar page for Money Train 2 in relax's website but it is classified as high volatility which is lower than Deadwood so probably thats the reason that 50,000x on Money Train has been hit by few people already

[iv4n]

Here's what I think, guys. Money Train 2's RTP is 96.4%, and  Deadwood's is 96.03 %. Let's consider them equal, because unless we make millions of spins, we actually can't notice the difference. Now, if RTP is the same but one slot's max payout is more than 3 times higher than that of the other one, doesn't that mean that the volatility of the former is higher? How else they can make up for those big payouts, especially if 50,000x hits on MT2 happen more frequently than 13,950x hits in Deadwood?

I am not sure about the math... but I bought hundreds of bonuses on both (from $10-$200), to not count the ones I got with spinning... and I never got higher than x2k on any Relax, Pragmatic, NoLimit slots...

RTP? What the hell that mean after all!?

For people like me (I am not sure in which group I belong, but let's say ordinary) what's important is in how many spins we can hit the bonus round?! And believe me, as you can hit that bonus round in the first spin (happened to me many times), you can spin +500 spins without hitting that bonus round you are waiting for (happened to me many times as well)!

And Bang! You hit that bonus round (after the first spin or many spins, or you simply bought one)! I will say one thing "as much luck you need for hitting the bonus, you need a lot more luck in the bonus round to hit something big"!

In the end, gambling is gambling and slots are slots! You need to love them to play them! They can give a lot but believe they can take even more! Fun is in spinning, waiting for that bonus and possible big payout... trying out different ones and new features from all of them!

Good luck Betwrong! If you just started your slot journey I am sure you will have a lot of fun! Just don't forget to not risk more than you can afford to lose!

[SirLancelot]

In the end, gambling is gambling and slots are slots! You need to love them to play them! They can give a lot but believe they can take even more! Fun is in spinning, waiting for that bonus and possible big payout... trying out different ones and new features from all of them!

That's literally slots. In slots games you have to pick your poison but to be quite honest all of them have that house edge, and most of the time slot games have higher house edge than some other games like dice (depends on dice and depends on slot) but mostly it is like that. Which is why I think it is quite important that we realize we are not in a child plays type of thing.

I know many people "gamble" on their mobile phones with slot games, that is fine and dandy and you do not lose that much, hell most of them do not even have house edge and help the gambler out, so you could make it back, and if you end up losing all of your money, you end up viewing few videos and you get your money back. However reality is that we are in a world where we have house edge here and that is why you should not be thinking some games are more profitable or others are more losses, it is all equals.

[hornetnz]

I <3 Chips! That is all.

[arallmuus]

RTP? What the hell that mean after all!?

Umm Return To Players? Basically 96% RTP could be translated into 4% house edge 

In the end, gambling is gambling and slots are slots! You need to love them to play them! They can give a lot but believe they can take even more! Fun is in spinning, waiting for that bonus and possible big payout... trying out different ones and new features from all of them!

Yeah ikr some people do not care about all those stuff. All they simply want when they play some slots would be the suspense of playing those slots basically hitting big multis everytime you manage to land 3 scatters for the bonus round .

That's literally slots. In slots games you have to pick your poison but to be quite honest all of them have that house edge, and most of the time slot games have higher house edge than some other games like dice

Dices are boring, slots are great  . If you want better suspense then slots are way better but dice are faster if you want to grind chips

However reality is that we are in a world where we have house edge here and that is why you should not be thinking some games are more profitable or others are more losses, it is all equals.

Of course there is no such thing as 'profitable' unless it is EV+ but theoretically the chances to score some insane multis are better in some high volatility slots with lower RTP hence higher house edge. I mean who wouldnt want to land sick multipliers 

[tygeade]

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I have played on bonus a lot of times and I have to disagree with one part, rest of the message is right. The part I disagree is that getting to bonus is not that difficult, as long as you keep gambling you will eventually get there, obviously I am not saying it is easy neither, but at least it is common enough that even if it is rare, at least it is rare enough that you can still get it the longer you play it.

However one part of this is not easy, and that is basically getting paid in the bonus round, I have been too many bonus rounds and in all of them I ended up usually getting money that didn't really recoup my losses until that point, there were few that made me good profit as well I am not going to lie but that is not really that common. So, the thing you are right about is the fact that we are talking about a rare situation that has even more rare thing in it for you to be able to make a profit.

[btc_angela]

I just saw this one from one of Chips.gg official tweet:

327x Closest Multiplier Race

Top 3 players



I wonder though is that is our very own SyGambler, (basing on his avatar, it seems Yes,  )

[panjul07]

I just saw this one from one of Chips.gg official tweet:

327x Closest Multiplier Race

Top 3 players



I wonder though is that is our very own SyGambler, (basing on his avatar, it seems Yes,  )

And he is the one who won the Tesla Cyber Truck raffle months ago here at Stake.
So it is not really surprising to see his name on various competitions by chips as he is an active player.
But seems that he is not really active wagering lately since I do not see his name on the $100,000 chips celebration leaderboard.

[hornetnz]

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

[peter0425]

I just saw this one from one of Chips.gg official tweet:

327x Closest Multiplier Race

Top 3 players



I wonder though is that is our very own SyGambler, (basing on his avatar, it seems Yes,  )

Yups the winner if Tesla Truck recently , and what i see? they are very close from top 2 and 3 with just 0.06 point.

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

I'm Not sure if that's true about Stake.com giving Tesla but what i \\I'm sure is that He won a Tesla from one event here in forum.

[numanoid]

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

Yes they did. But Sygambler prefer with money instead of the truck IIRC. Same like an user who won a lambo from other site but choose to prefer money instead the lambo.
Anyone who missed the recent contest information, please look and try $100,000 wager contest which will end on  May 18th. Here is currently the list https://chips.gg/event/ecad987e-8b5a-463b-bb51-0a0ede20d429

You can win up to $30,000 on 1st place

[babygun]

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

Yes they did. But Sygambler prefer with money instead of the truck IIRC. Same like an user who won a lambo from other site but choose to prefer money instead the lambo.
Anyone who missed the recent contest information, please look and try $100,000 wager contest which will end on  May 18th. Here is currently the list https://chips.gg/event/ecad987e-8b5a-463b-bb51-0a0ede20d429

You can win up to $30,000 on 1st place

Didn't Sygambler won the Cybertruck on Chips? Stake gave away a lambo.

Just checked the top 100 of the $100,000 event, I only recognize one BCT member: BTCGOSU  . Nr 100 already wagered over 23,000$, so it is not so easy to get into the top 100.

[Bitinity]

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

Yes they did. But Sygambler prefer with money instead of the truck IIRC. Same like an user who won a lambo from other site but choose to prefer money instead the lambo.

No they did not, Chips who the one who gave away Cyber Truck not Stake. Are you guys getting confused between chips.gg and stake?

Didn't Sygambler won the Cybertruck on Chips? Stake gave away a lambo.

Yes he was the winner on Chips although we cant see the Cyber Truck as he said that he take the prize in money.

Just checked the top 100 of the $100,000 event, I only recognize one BCT member: BTCGOSU  . Nr 100 already wagered over 23,000$, so it is not so easy to get into the top 100.

There is also arallmuus on 77th, there can be other bitcointalk users but perhaps they prefer to use different username to stay anonymous.

[Strongkored]

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

Yes they did. But Sygambler prefer with money instead of the truck IIRC. Same like an user who won a lambo from other site but choose to prefer money instead the lambo.
Anyone who missed the recent contest information, please look and try $100,000 wager contest which will end on  May 18th. Here is currently the list https://chips.gg/event/ecad987e-8b5a-463b-bb51-0a0ede20d429

You can win up to $30,000 on 1st place

Didn't Sygambler won the Cybertruck on Chips? Stake gave away a lambo.

Just checked the top 100 of the $100,000 event, I only recognize one BCT member: BTCGOSU  . Nr 100 already wagered over 23,000$, so it is not so easy to get into the top 100.

Yes, he won the Cybertruck on Chips, here's https://chips.gg/event/b4f0bdd0-090b-41f1-a615-ce9e95730dd8.
Those who enter the competition are those who have a lot of money and so can have a large total wager, and when you check the first leaderboard he has total wager almost $5Million.

[TheGreatPython]

Dices are boring, slots are great  . If you want better suspense then slots are way better but dice are faster if you want to grind chips

I think that's fine with me. I mean I like slots, I like dice, I like poker, I like sports betting. I do not get why people think that you have to choose from them, if you are a person who can stop himself from gambling too much, you could gamble on many different games. Slots are not really that complicated, you do hope to get many different things and 3 scatters for bonus and all that but you do nothing to get there, it is all about luck, I feel like that works for other games as well.

I personally do not gamble to win money, I gamble to have fun, and most of the time I have to accept that winning means fun, but if I end up losing 100 times and win 1 time and that 1 time is a huge amount, even if I do not break even that would still be a cool gaming for me. Bet 1 dollars for 100 times and lose them all, then won 90 dollars on the next bet? That's good enough for me even though I lost money.

[Dump3er]

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

Yes they did. But Sygambler prefer with money instead of the truck IIRC. Same like an user who won a lambo from other site but choose to prefer money instead the lambo.
Anyone who missed the recent contest information, please look and try $100,000 wager contest which will end on  May 18th. Here is currently the list https://chips.gg/event/ecad987e-8b5a-463b-bb51-0a0ede20d429

You can win up to $30,000 on 1st place

Could be a good move though from time to time to offer some extraordinary stuff for promotion. Exactly because people might discuss it across the forum. But I agree, cash is king (or rather crypto!). 

[arallmuus]

But seems that he is not really active wagering lately since I do not see his name on the $100,000 chips celebration leaderboard.

Chatted with him through PM asking about something a month ago. He said he is currently busy with real life so yeah probably he hasnt had much time playing in the site. Besides that, he has minted lots of chips in the early days so he is probably enjoying all those right now

There is also arallmuus on 77th, there can be other bitcointalk users but perhaps they prefer to use different username to stay anonymous.

Currently 78th right now but probably going to slip soon especially on the last day. Some people probably wait for the last day to wager their last spurt. There are probably alot of bitcointalk users below the 100th rank, most are not really a heavyweight wager when it comes to this type contest

Stake gave away a cyber truck? lollll

Actually this hornet guy sits at 24th right now with over 100k wagered  . He is one of those heavyweight player from chips

I personally do not gamble to win money, I gamble to have fun, and most of the time I have to accept that winning means fun

Its cool, everyone are entitled to do what they want with their own money  . Some people are looking for fun while some are looking for profit , both are acceptable by any means