Cloudbet $15,000 confiscated due to US Citizenship

[Maasdamer]

Click this post to see the drawn out figures breakdown

The total means I am down still over 2 bitcoins even if I were paid out (negative 2 bitcoins) so these are the figures. 
I realize above is the long drawn out post, it could be much more concise, but basically:
I am down about 2 bitcoins on the site and all the factual information is above, with provable pictures on imgur of the deposits and withdrawals on the site!

You still dont get it right.
The refund thing would be for the location restriction.
You had multiple accounts, so yet another rule you violated.

Also, they suspended your latest account with the funds. So why are you talking about the other old account??
Nobody cares about that account, only you.

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[Arcas]

It is maybe complicated, but Cloudbet scammed many people for enormous amounts. I would say: just pay this customer the last deposit back and case closed.
The fact that he made some other accounts is not good and complicated, but  that is not a reason to confiscate the money. They can return it easily. I think that they are not even allowed to take it.

[efxes]

It is maybe complicated, but Cloudbet scammed many people for enormous amounts. I would say: just pay this customer the last deposit back and case closed.
The fact that he made some other accounts is not good and complicated, but  that is not a reason to confiscate the money. They can return it easily. I think that they are not even allowed to take it.

At this point I indeed would take a partial payment and I agree I did some stupid things. I appreciate the input. Thank you. I hope that cloudbet will respond again one day.

[gadado]

I think it adds little to this topic, but I also see that the site https://game-protect.com/ is a partner of Cloudbet. Or at least have an affiliate program. That can never be right.
The status of user Game-protect is not really something to write home about and it looks like it is also banned on this forum. Anyone who works with Game-Protect.. well, what can we say about that?

[Arcas]

It is maybe complicated, but Cloudbet scammed many people for enormous amounts. I would say: just pay this customer the last deposit back and case closed.
The fact that he made some other accounts is not good and complicated, but  that is not a reason to confiscate the money. They can return it easily. I think that they are not even allowed to take it.

At this point I indeed would take a partial payment and I agree I did some stupid things. I appreciate the input. Thank you. I hope that cloudbet will respond again one day.

Did they already pay you or what is the status?

[efxes]

I haven't heard a peep from Cloudbet unfortunately, and no.  They claim to have "sent my deposits back".  This is not the case.  My account was zero balanced, I sent around $25,000 in a 24 hour period.  I went to withdraw $15,000 in BCH, there was the mis-grade error, they want to void all wagers or do all sorts of things to say I don't deserve my deposits back, and then claim that they sent my deposits back.

I provided evidence that I've actually lost tens of thousands of dollars in bitcoin to the site, I didn't mean to abuse TOS it was my mistake.  I'm hoping we can come to a resolution but I haven't heard a peep since I presented the new facts with the fact that I have not won on the site long term, in fact I'm still down tens of thousands.  It was my mistake, I am hoping we can resolve it.

They said the reason I'm not being paid back the money I sent in is because my deposits were less than the withdrawals, however with past posts I have proved this is not the case.

Thanks for continuing to push for a resolution.

[efxes]

Apparently someone else's complaint was resolved after 40 days because they started a complaint on askgamblers.

Askgamblers doesn't accept cases pertaining to sports betting.  He must have been a casino gambler.

Patiently awaiting a response from cloudbet.  It's been 2 months since the case was closed prematurely.

[efxes]

 here are the 200 deposits and ~30 withdrawals showing I actually was down 2.7 bitcoins on the site before taking a one or two year break and forgetting my logins and making a new account.  I realize it's complicated but I've lost tens of thousands on the site, and their reasonings of me being in the profit on the site are blatantly false given these facts:

200 provable deposits
https://imgur.com/a/cKScZIG

30 withdrawals
https://imgur.com/a/tUUxi0e

I realize I broke TOS- however it was completely non-malicious.  I'm a losing bettor, it's proven with facts here.  

The figures are that I was down 2.7 bitcoins on the previous account.  So holding the 67 BCH minus the .27 bitcoin misgrade doesn't seem to apply.


Some guy JacksonStreet and many other shill accounts of cloudbet's are trying to talk me out of gambling and convince me to walk away.  I have walked away- for weeks.  I'm still awaiting any update from Cloudbet on the case.  

Please stop having RedApples and JacksonStreet on SBRforum try and make me look bad over and over on here.  It's so tiring.  

Here it shows that he's actually stalking my profiles and talking about my businesses:


Can we get a resolution?  I don't want beef, I just want some type of resolution to the matter, you know?

People stalking my profiles, talking about my business, doing all sorts of stuff to try and make me go away.  Is this how a proper business is run guys?  Seriously?  Can you for once be a decent site and pay your customers, pay your players?  

I don't even think about this case at all any more.  I just post updates once a week and there are people apparently stalking me.  Make it stop guys.  Let's get a resolution.  I've walked away for weeks.  I'm just gently asking to please stop the personal attacks, and just confront the real situation here.  Let's get an official response from cloudbet.  It's been almost two months.

[RedApples]

https://ibb.co/R6z5Mb8

This psycho scammer is still at this game? For anyone who wants the truth, click this link and read the posts that follow. Read this entire thread from start to finish if you want an even clearer picture. Maybe the most dishonest psychotic unfair abusive scammer you will ever see ANYWHERE. Do not trust ANYTHING this guy says without verifying the details. NONE of it is ever true. Just read for 1 minute. He's the shadiest person you will ever find. Been waging a smear and misinformation campaign from day 1.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3622234-cloudbet-confiscated-15-000-due-providing-verification-documents-usa-citizen-p9.html#post29818073

[nutildah]

I have walked away- for weeks.  

That's not how walking away works!

I'm still awaiting any update from Cloudbet on the case.  

Then you haven't actually walked away. Seriously bro. This isn't good for your mental health.

I won't comment on this any further but just know what you're doing doesn't look good to anybody.

[efxes]

I jsut want to hear what cloudbet has to say, it's been two months. I'm done conversing with people until then. I will just await to see if cloudbet says anyhting. if not whatever, i'll move on. but I wish it would get resolved.

Look I don't want any more problems, I apologize for stating false facts in the beginning. I was scared I wouldn't get paid. My reality came true. I apologize about all of it... I think jackson knows my character, and is pushing me to walk away for own mental health and to live a fruitful life, it's definitely a tough situation.

To the people talking crap and talking down to me, I'm sure you've done a lot worse than lie about your location when gambling on the internet. Good luck.

[scammed-by-nitro]

I jsut want to hear what cloudbet has to say, it's been two months. I'm done conversing with people until then. I will just await to see if cloudbet says anyhting. if not whatever, i'll move on. but I wish it would get resolved.

Look I don't want any more problems, I apologize for stating false facts in the beginning. I was scared I wouldn't get paid. My reality came true. I apologize about all of it... I think jackson knows my character, and is pushing me to walk away for own mental health and to live a fruitful life, it's definitely a tough situation.

To the people talking crap and talking down to me, I'm sure you've done a lot worse than lie about your location when gambling on the internet. Good luck.

Hahahahhaa, you still thing you only violated the location rule. How stupid are you?

[acroman08]

I jsut want to hear what cloudbet has to say, it's been two months. I'm done conversing with people until then. I will just await to see if cloudbet says anyhting. if not whatever, i'll move on. but I wish it would get resolved.

Look I don't want any more problems, I apologize for stating false facts in the beginning. I was scared I wouldn't get paid. My reality came true. I apologize about all of it... I think jackson knows my character, and is pushing me to walk away for own mental health and to live a fruitful life, it's definitely a tough situation.

To the people talking crap and talking down to me, I'm sure you've done a lot worse than lie about your location when gambling on the internet. Good luck.

sure I(or people) have lied to someone but I do not lie to someone and accuse them that it was their fault and then playing like I was the victim.

the problem is trust. you lied and accused them of taking your money even though you didn't any rule and you used defamation to ruin their reputation. though it would be good if the two of you reach into an agreement.

[efxes]

I admit I overreacted so horribly- I apologize eternally for that, to the community, to Cloudbet, to everyone.

I've since completely pulled back and changed my approach.  It's been over a month of me mostly not even posting, and when I do I'm apologizing left and right for overreacting and overreaching.  I really am sorry about the way I went about trying to plead my case to the public when I felt helpless dealing with them privately. 

Trust me, I feel awful about the way I handled things.  I've been apologizing for over a month, and I hardly post about it now, I'm just waiting to hear back after more facts have been presented.  I agree, I wish it would get resolved.  No I didn't ruin anyone's reputation, I don't have that power.  If I ruined anyone's reputation it was my own with lying about it out of desperation to get the funds I sent them back.  Trust me, I feel awful about the dishonesty about my location and about the past losing account. 

Now the facts are out, I've shown with provable evidence the links above to the deposits and withdrawals showing I have lost tens of thousands of dollars to the site.  Now let's see what Cloudbet has to say.  Please.  Appreciate your feedback, and again, I am sorry for reacting the way I did and throwing a tantrum.  Now let's see what Cloudbet's official word on the matter will be and go from there.  It's been 2 months.

[efxes]

two months still no official statement from cloudbet regarding new facts and figures with verifiable deposit/withdrawal proof.

[RedApples]

two months still no official statement from cloudbet regarding new facts and figures with verifiable deposit/withdrawal proof.

"New facts"? from who? You? The filthy scammer who has smeared Cloudbet and should be blacklisted? The case is closed. No one cares about your "new facts". Not only aren't they facts, but they amount to nothing. What does make sense, is Cloudbet distancing themselves from you. If anything you made them look really good here, and are continuing to make them look good. Good for them for not listening to any of your bullying and attempting to defraud them in every way. You're a liar, a cheat, a dishonest scam artist and con man. You literally tried to steal from them, made up many accounts to defraud them, and are still at this game.

Go away SCAMMER.

[efxes]

I jsut want to hear what cloudbet has to say, it's been two months. I'm done conversing with people until then. I will just await to see if cloudbet says anyhting. if not whatever, i'll move on. but I wish it would get resolved.

Look I don't want any more problems, I apologize for stating false facts in the beginning. I was scared I wouldn't get paid. My reality came true. I apologize about all of it... I think jackson knows my character, and is pushing me to walk away for own mental health and to live a fruitful life, it's definitely a tough situation.

To the people talking crap and talking down to me, I'm sure you've done a lot worse than lie about your location when gambling on the internet. Good luck.

i will continue to quote this when being attacked.  I did no such wrong doings, I didn't try and steal any money- if you think that you somehow mis-interpreted the case.  I also overreacted and got upset- and lied about my location.  I apologize about that.

[Coach0909]

UPDATE:

No response from Curacao Gaming for 8 months.

They still didn't return me my money.