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[FanEagle]

I didn't really want to go there before, because it becomes a different situation when someone who has no emotions due to a disorder or something causes that. My point here is as normal humans (sorry in advance, not those who were born or certain events that make them special from other normal humans).
Of course if I want to get into that realm, then my opinion on what I said earlier will be debatable.
I'm sure you understand my point.

I had a friend like that, he made insane amount of money from trading, zero emotions at all when dealing with millions of dollars that can be gone in a second, apparently that helps. When gambling though, if you have no emotions then there is no need to gamble, because it's all about getting emotions back.

Our lives are a bit boring, maybe not yours but a ton of people wake up, shower, go to work, come back, watch something, eat, watch some more, sleep. Gambling is a way out of that, you win some and you lose some, usually you lose more than you win, but at least you feel something. The online gambling world is spreading like a pandemic, it's everywhere and it's literally hundreds of millions of people now, that's a huge number.

[dzungmobile]

I had a friend like that, he made insane amount of money from trading, zero emotions at all when dealing with millions of dollars that can be gone in a second, apparently that helps.

Trading is not easy and a bigger capital you are using for trading, a more pressure you have as well as bigger effects from emotion you have to cope with. It's not easy to repeat success from trading with small capital to trading with like x10 or x100 to x1000 that small capital.

When you are trading with very big capital, you don't chase for x2, x10 or x100 from it, you only need small percent of profit which is enough. You will prioritize safety and only open positions if you see good chance to get profit but it still has pressure. Big capital, big risk to lose big when you fail.

When gambling though, if you have no emotions then there is no need to gamble, because it's all about getting emotions back.

Gambling for fun is different than gambling for rich and do it irresponsible.

[l3pox]

I had a friend like that, he made insane amount of money from trading, zero emotions at all when dealing with millions of dollars that can be gone in a second, apparently that helps.

Trading is not easy and a bigger capital you are using for trading, a more pressure you have as well as bigger effects from emotion you have to cope with. It's not easy to repeat success from trading with small capital to trading with like x10 or x100 to x1000 that small capital.

When you are trading with very big capital, you don't chase for x2, x10 or x100 from it, you only need small percent of profit which is enough. You will prioritize safety and only open positions if you see good chance to get profit but it still has pressure. Big capital, big risk to lose big when you fail.

When gambling though, if you have no emotions then there is no need to gamble, because it's all about getting emotions back.

Gambling for fun is different than gambling for rich and do it irresponsible.

great takes
more money moves markets so it gets more difficult to have the same returns as with little money
but good traders can always find an edge

it makes me think
are there "good" gamblers? or its always luck?

 maybe the ones who manage emotions and bankroll are the good ones

[3kpk3]

it makes me think
are there "good" gamblers? or its always luck?

 maybe the ones who manage emotions and bankroll are the good ones

There are good gamblers though you can only find them in games which rely on a combination of skill and luck like poker, sports-betting etc. They usually end up earning tons of money and quit gambling.

You won't find good gamblers in games that completely rely on luck for obvious reasons.

[Wapfika]

it makes me think
are there "good" gamblers? or its always luck?

 maybe the ones who manage emotions and bankroll are the good ones

There are good gamblers though you can only find them in games which rely on a combination of skill and luck like poker, sports-betting etc. They usually end up earning tons of money and quit gambling.

You won't find good gamblers in games that completely rely on luck for obvious reasons.

Quit gambling? I never heard someone that quit on gambling after making tons of profit because most of them still play but in moderated basis to still enjoy gambling and have fun with other players. Other successful gamblers choose the mentor path which they offer classes in exchange for their fee.

I think this is the only way for a successful gambler to quit by finding different steady source of income using their gambling knowledge.

[so98nn]

I had a friend like that, he made insane amount of money from trading, zero emotions at all when dealing with millions of dollars that can be gone in a second, apparently that helps.

Trading is not easy and a bigger capital you are using for trading, a more pressure you have as well as bigger effects from emotion you have to cope with. It's not easy to repeat success from trading with small capital to trading with like x10 or x100 to x1000 that small capital.

When you are trading with very big capital, you don't chase for x2, x10 or x100 from it, you only need small percent of profit which is enough. You will prioritize safety and only open positions if you see good chance to get profit but it still has pressure. Big capital, big risk to lose big when you fail.

When gambling though, if you have no emotions then there is no need to gamble, because it's all about getting emotions back.

Gambling for fun is different than gambling for rich and do it irresponsible.

Yeah honestly you can always adjust the amount of transaction in the Gambling but in the trading world its entirely different dram. Somehow there is big role of the psychology while playing gambling games and investing money in trading. You see if you read the last sentence again then games and investment are the prime target words that are role playing here. Games, is lot easier or fun way to portray it and makes it look like easy environment to put your money. On the other hand trading is all about deep study, continuous watch on the market, complicated decisions and much more. So yeah it might be that gambling could feel way safer somehow if you control the emotional part.

[babygun]

Quit gambling? I never heard someone that quit on gambling after making tons of profit because most of them still play but in moderated basis to still enjoy gambling and have fun with other players. Other successful gamblers choose the mentor path which they offer classes in exchange for their fee.

I think this is the only way for a successful gambler to quit by finding different steady source of income using their gambling knowledge.

I don't really I know anybody that keeps making a profit while gambling lol. The best way to make some money out of gambling is becoming a streamer; look at all those popular gambling streamers on Twitch/Youtube such as Foss or Xposed. They get sponsored by the casino, still have fun and get a nice income out of it.

[BitcoinPanther]

it makes me think
are there "good" gamblers? or its always luck?

 maybe the ones who manage emotions and bankroll are the good ones

There are good gamblers though you can only find them in games which rely on a combination of skill and luck like poker, sports-betting etc. They usually end up earning tons of money and quit gambling.

I do not think these people completely quit gambling.  There are lots of professional poker player continues to gamble even after winning huge amount of money. And many lottery jackpot winners even engage more deeply in gambling after receiving their winning money. 

You won't find good gamblers in games that completely rely on luck for obvious reasons.

That is because luck based gambling games are different from combination of skill and luck games, since luck based games result is random, many players often lose more than their winnings.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I don't really know anybody that keeps making a profit while gambling lol. The best way to make some money out of gambling is becoming a streamer; look at all those popular gambling streamers on Twitch/Youtube such as Foss or Xposed. They get sponsored by the casino, still have fun and get a nice income out of it.

They are called affiliates through streams, videos, websites or other social media they will always win without risk, you can follow their way if you are confident you just need a camera and an internet connection or if you want to spend money to advertise on some popular sites. I recently saw a Duelbits promotional banner on talkimg.com  who did it? referral source using bitcointalk link the same link in the signature campaign, is Hhampuz advertising there? this is one example of earning passive income through gambling.

There are good gamblers though you can only find them in games which rely on a combination of skill and luck like poker, sports-betting etc. They usually end up earning tons of money and quit gambling.

I know about this but they don't stop gambling they are banned from gambling obviously this is different from stopping and being banned this is the reason why the bookie never loses they can ban someone if it has the potential to drain the bookie's profits for several reasons, of course. If you know about @Shane Huang on youtube he is one expert gambler he can make a profit on every bet without risk but still need a process that can't be instant, but be careful the techniques used are always prohibited in sports books.

[worle1bm]

I do not think these people completely quit gambling.  There are lots of professional poker player continues to gamble even after winning huge amount of money. And many lottery jackpot winners even engage more deeply in gambling after receiving their winning money. 

It depends on the respective gambler how they take their gameplans like for some if they win big they will take a break to enjoy other activities from the amount,others cash out some and keep gambling while others who risks all of them to bet more and engage in high rolling bets so there are different types of players.We can say some quit,some take break while others keep gambling the usual way.

[3kpk3]

Observed that some posters didn't understand what I was trying to convey. Some gamblers who win big do continue gambling for sure since they are addicted to it, but some others quit after winning big in order to beat the house.

The smart ones quit when they are ahead since they are aware of the fact that it's impossible to beat the house in the long-term.

[Reatim]

Observed that some posters didn't understand what I was trying to convey. Some gamblers who win big do continue gambling for sure since they are addicted to it, but some others quit after winning big in order to beat the house.

The smart ones quit when they are ahead since they are aware of the fact that it's impossible to beat the house in the long-term.

Actually they  understand what you try to say here but what I see they are questioning is if there are truly some big winners that totally leave gambling after the win , or they just stop for a while but still playing for sometimes?
 because i really don't believe that there are some that can completely leave like that , yeah they may succeed beating the house and also continue to seek for winning in the time to come.

I think you need to create an account there and try to make a deposit, don't hesitate to ask anything in this thread or their CS if you have something to ask and you don't get a satisfactory answer in this thread. I think it will solve your doubts about this site, because then you will no longer be curious about your question. 

The ongoing discussion in this thread will be helpful in understanding that they are legit in the business and doing it for some years now with lot of players who are satisfied and happy with duelbits.But support won't answer such things like they are legit or not because they are responsive to any issues on the site but he/she don't need to worry about duelbits.

the support needs to answer everything , but there are some  that they choose not to because of obvious reason and those are cheaters.
Duelbits proven those legibility for how many years now? and yet some are questioning them.

[AussieMat]

Hello,
I have been advised by members to post a link to my thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460293.new#new

I have a withdrawal of 20,000 USDT pending since 18/07 and I have no update whatsoever of why is it taking so long. A new Bitcointalk account said he was in a similar situation in that thread. Most people said they never had problems withdrawing money from the website before.

[FanEagle]

I had a friend like that, he made insane amount of money from trading, zero emotions at all when dealing with millions of dollars that can be gone in a second, apparently that helps.

Trading is not easy and a bigger capital you are using for trading, a more pressure you have as well as bigger effects from emotion you have to cope with. It's not easy to repeat success from trading with small capital to trading with like x10 or x100 to x1000 that small capital.

When you are trading with very big capital, you don't chase for x2, x10 or x100 from it, you only need small percent of profit which is enough. You will prioritize safety and only open positions if you see good chance to get profit but it still has pressure. Big capital, big risk to lose big when you fail.

Fun is enjoyment too and that's an emotion. Same with trading and gambling, it doesn't matter you are doing, if you want to trade with zero emotions that's fine but if you want to gamble then you should feel some fun. Without fun, there is no reason to gamble, and fun is an emotion so you need to be feeling at least something about it.

This isn't some mathematical question we are trying to solve, there is nothing wrong with making it look like you are telling something that hurts people, if people are hurt by this then so be it, if you are not having fun then do not gamble. You will most likely end up losing your money anyway, so there is no reason to take any risks at all. I suppose entertainment is the only thing that casinos provide.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Hello,
I have been advised by members to post a link to my thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460293.new#new

I have a withdrawal of 20,000 USDT pending since 18/07 and I have no update whatsoever of why is it taking so long. A new Bitcointalk account said he was in a similar situation in that thread. Most people said they never had problems withdrawing money from the website before.

Like I believe it has been stated on the thread you started, have you contacted the customer care of the casino to ascertain what could possibly be the cause of this delay?, if you haven't, I will advice you reach out to their customer care immediately, I believe you should get a quicker response with that, but then also, you could try contacting their Ann manager here on the forum to see if he could help you escalate the issue.

Also try searching through your email address to make sure you haven't been ask to pass through KYC verification before the withdrawal could be processed,  if you are very you have not been asked to pass kyc verification, and still not getting any reply from the customer care service, and no reply from their Ann manager here, you could proceed to creating a scam accusation, maybe that will draw their attention to the issue faster.

[AussieMat]

Hello,
I have been advised by members to post a link to my thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460293.new#new

I have a withdrawal of 20,000 USDT pending since 18/07 and I have no update whatsoever of why is it taking so long. A new Bitcointalk account said he was in a similar situation in that thread. Most people said they never had problems withdrawing money from the website before.

Like I believe it has been stated on the thread you started, have you contacted the customer care of the casino to ascertain what could possibly be the cause of this delay?, if you haven't, I will advice you reach out to their customer care immediately, I believe you should get a quicker response with that, but then also, you could try contacting their Ann manager here on the forum to see if he could help you escalate the issue.

Also try searching through your email address to make sure you haven't been ask to pass through KYC verification before the withdrawal could be processed,  if you are very you have not been asked to pass kyc verification, and still not getting any reply from the customer care service, and no reply from their Ann manager here, you could proceed to creating a scam accusation, maybe that will draw their attention to the issue faster.

I sent you my username in pm, I can’t contact them as a newbie.

Yes I am 100% certain of everything (spam, inbox, messages from casino account verified). After multiple contacts with customer service they said no further need to contact them and that I should wait for their update on why my withdrawal isn’t being processed. No KYC asked.

[3kpk3]

Yes I am 100% certain of everything (spam, inbox, messages from casino account verified). After multiple contacts with customer service they said no further need to contact them and that I should wait for their update on why my withdrawal isn’t being processed. No KYC asked.

Am surprised to hear that you didn't receive any update regarding your situation in this forum or in the site itself. I have withdrawn small and medium size amounts from Duelbits so far with zero issues.

Did you use a VPN or multiple accounts or something else? This whole case keeps getting weirder and weirder if you ask me.

[worle1bm]

If he has been using VPN or multi accounting then account would have been blocked but there would be explanation from the team also but he didn't get any till now but have said earlier aslo they will give reply or allow him to withdraw to his account so wait a little bit more.I have also not faced any withdrawal issue anytime.

[so98nn]

Yes I am 100% certain of everything (spam, inbox, messages from casino account verified). After multiple contacts with customer service they said no further need to contact them and that I should wait for their update on why my withdrawal isn’t being processed. No KYC asked.

Am surprised to hear that you didn't receive any update regarding your situation in this forum or in the site itself. I have withdrawn small and medium size amounts from Duelbits so far with zero issues.

Did you use a VPN or multiple accounts or something else? This whole case keeps getting weirder and weirder if you ask me.

Damn, if they are using the VPN or multiple accounts then definitely they are not getting back anything at all. It’s really simple, the user has already violated various terms of services that won’t let him get the account back or Duelbits sure has the authority to cease the funds for that violations.

If you ask me then yeah you just be honest with all the online gambling sites. Play in your own jurisdictions, read the ToS before investing your money into them. Just keep it simple guys, I hardly think we can get any issues if this is followed.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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But I speak for myself, I wouldn't do it that way, because I don't have that economic capacity, that's why I play more controlled, I make low bets, I enjoy, I think that sometimes the fact that we have a lot and bet little activates the adrenaline much more , because there is much more to lose.

Of course the thing that we should think about before playing is whether we can afford to cover our needs while we are gambling? If yes then proceed with good management, and if not then don't do it at all, because that's risking our future needs, especially if we have a family to support.

When it's just to make ends meet to gamble, putting money on the lowest stakes is one of the best options. Because with a small bet the amount of loss will be more controlled. I will not prohibit someone from betting with a large nominal, if they can afford to do so then go ahead, as long as it remains under good control.

good point
one should not gamble with more then what can afford to lose
that is a basic rule and one that everyone should follow

specially when playing high risk games where you could end up with nothing

That is the law, brother, when you play, the first thing you should imagine is how much money you are willing to lose, so that it does not become unbalanced later, because things can change anyway, it may be that we have total control of everything, and we repeatedly let ourselves be carried away by impulses that what would happen if I deposited again, would I win or not? there are people who do it and literally end up losing everything, so that's not the idea, because then the meaning of a casino is reversed, people who seek to multiply their money thinking that a casino is easy to win, are wrong, if there are people who win big, because they bet big, but they are mostly people with a lot of money, it doesn't really affect them if they lose a lot.

I say this as a player who has a low to medium balance of money, I cannot say that I put a lot of money in the casino because it would be a lie, there would be no point in telling lies, one has to assume how his way of playing is, how much money is he capable of risking? Because things can change from one moment to another, I am a relatively conservative player, if I want to withdraw money from a casino I don't do it all at once, things are little by little, with small profits I accumulate them.

There are people who have their own style to play, which is to make a move and at once consider it lost or won, I also respect that, as long as things don't get out of control, the bad starts when more money is invested and it is compromised money, and if it is lost, then things get worse.