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September 04, 2023, 05:04:08 AM
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Hmmm, Duelbits offers the standard commission rate of 10% of the house edge according to the recent article published by Duelbits on this https://help.duelbits.com/en/articles/5351626-affiliates-explained. I wonder how come you get a commission almost the same to the total wager of your referral while your commission is just based on the home edge.

I'm not familiar on the full affiliate program of Duelbits but it's intriguing to saw a affiliate commission like this. What's you commision rate if you will since I knew that some special user can have special offer by the casino.

If referring based on house edge then the main factors that impact revenue are commission rate and the type of game played because every game offers a different edge for example commissions on slot games are 3-4x higher than Dice game so if a referral plays a slot game (3% edge) for $25000 wagered then the commission will be the same as the referral who played Dice game (1% edge) for $75,000 wagered so don't be surprised if we get different commissions from each casino.

Here is my income from referrals 3.5%  edge x 769 wagered x 10% commission rate = $2.69 total earnings
There is a slight difference in commissions but I assume it's a combination edge (3-5%) from several games
Correct me if I miscalculated.


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September 04, 2023, 06:01:53 AM
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Duelbits is by far the best site in terms of affiliate commissions I have been working with. For $25 000 wagered by my referral they paid me almost the same commission as another website paid me for $180 000 wagered by him there too.
I like also the fact that you know exactly what your bonuses will be Smiley

Yeah , I agree with you, when it has to do with amount paid as referral commission, duelbits is definitely the best, or should I say one of the best since I personally believe that there could be another gambling casino out there that could also have a higher pay as referral commission, for example, Bc.game also used to be one of the best based on how high their referral commission is until they slashed the rate of the commission recently, I don't know what their reason is, but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .

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September 04, 2023, 07:09:38 AM
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Duelbits is by far the best site in terms of affiliate commissions I have been working with. For $25 000 wagered by my referral they paid me almost the same commission as another website paid me for $180 000 wagered by him there too.
I like also the fact that you know exactly what your bonuses will be Smiley
Nice, that's a lot of commissions for sure, and no doubt that they're truthful to what they're offering for their affiliates.

but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .
Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.

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September 04, 2023, 12:19:04 PM
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Duelbits is by far the best site in terms of affiliate commissions I have been working with. For $25 000 wagered by my referral they paid me almost the same commission as another website paid me for $180 000 wagered by him there too.
I like also the fact that you know exactly what your bonuses will be Smiley


Hmmm, Duelbits offers the standard commission rate of 10% of the house edge according to the recent article published by Duelbits on this https://help.duelbits.com/en/articles/5351626-affiliates-explained. I wonder how come you get a commission almost the same to the total wager of your referral while your commission is just based on the home edge.

I'm not familiar on the full affiliate program of Duelbits but it's intriguing to saw a affiliate commission like this. What's you commision rate if you will since I knew that some special user can have special offer by the casino.
Duelbits paid him 10% of house edge. If the income from house edge commision was the same from $25K and $180K wagering from different websites, that means that another website paid him (let's assume that website also has 1% house edge) 1.4% of the house edge.
By the way, sometimes I have even see casinos offering 50% of house edge, that is definitely the greatest reward one can gain through affiliates on casino.

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I don't know much about Duelbits, but never believe the titles that companies claim. Definitely, everyone will tell you that they are the best but you shouldn't actually believe that they 100% back it up.
It's good that you created SA thread, I hope your problem will be solved because Duelbits doesn't want to ruin reputation and if there is some misleading, I believe that will be solved! Just saying, if I were you, I would try to make that thread a little short and more focused on actual problem because people don't read long posts.

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September 04, 2023, 04:19:41 PM
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managing total risk per platform is definitely a smart strategy
if you care about privacy too them opting for casinos without kyc is a good ideia though you probably won't find many or will find more with lower volume than the big ones.
what are other strategies you usually use?
and yes there are only few of Non KYC casinos now because of government as this leaves them no choice but to brace the regulations ,so if that is the only option then what should they act?
but my strategy is mostly limiting my funds to spend because for me that is the safest way at least to prevent everything that is not necessary .
Well, if the law states that you have to have KYC to operate as a casino then you have to get that information, that's just how it is. There are a few, even at the very top, that do not ask for it straight up and only ask for it when something happens but I have to say that's going to be a troublesome thing on the long run.

I think it's quite important to remember that we are talking about a situation where it's out of casinos hands to ask for it or not, if they do ask for it then they can exist, but if they do not ask for it then they will be basically considered as a illegally managed casino and the governments will be after them. I think gambling being illegal is a tough decision, I still think it should be legal.

if it's legal or illegal it'll vary from place to place
I'm still surprised of not having more dex options without KYC, any idea why is that?
maybe because of the need of a huge bankroll to operate a good casino?

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September 04, 2023, 04:25:18 PM
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but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .
Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.

Yeah, Cost cutting is the typical move of some casino to lessen expenses from affiliates especially for those affiliate that doesn’t invite new referrals and only relying to the existing invites that they already profited for a long time. Retroactive affiliate commission is not new affiliate system of casino since the affiliate can’t pull out their invites anymore once they already registered and made tons of bets in the casino due to VIP level.

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Duelbits: Unveiling the Illusion of "The Most Rewarding Casino"
Let's not be fooled by the illusion of rewards – it's time to reveal the truth.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464671
I don't know much about Duelbits, but never believe the titles that companies claim. Definitely, everyone will tell you that they are the best but you shouldn't actually believe that they 100% back it up.
It's good that you created SA thread, I hope your problem will be solved because Duelbits doesn't want to ruin reputation and if there is some misleading, I believe that will be solved! Just saying, if I were you, I would try to make that thread a little short and more focused on actual problem because people don't read long posts.
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I've never held any illusions about casinos, and I appreciate your perspective. You're absolutely right; skepticism is key when it comes to bold claims.

As for the thread, thank you for the advice. I'll work on making it more concise and to the point to ensure that the issue is crystal clear. It's crucial that people understand the core problem, and I'll do my best to convey that.

I never believed the casino to be honest; you can check all my posts,  it's a chain of events that led me to this. As you can see, no one has replied to the Scam thread I have all proofs, duel bits made me look like an idiot and I am sure they are reading this thread and having a good laugh about it. This was the last response from their head of support.

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Dear King Bj,
 
I trust this message finds you well. I wanted to acknowledge your previous email and address the concerns you've raised regarding your experience with Duelbits.
 
At Duelbits, we are committed to providing the best possible support to our valued players like you. While we strive to meet the needs of all our users, we understand that our services may not always align with every individual's expectations, especially in our line of activity. As an online casino, the nature of our platform means that there will be times of both winning and losing for our players.
 
It's important to remember that Duelbits operates with the primary intention of offering an entertaining and engaging gaming experience. We discourage any approach that views Duelbits as a primary source of income, as responsible gambling is a principle we take very seriously. Our goal is to provide a safe and enjoyable environment for all players to enjoy the thrill of gaming responsibly.

It saddens us to learn that we haven't met your expectations, and we regret any disappointment you've experienced. Please know that we are continuously working to improve our services and enhance the overall gaming experience for all our players.
 
Thank you for being a part of the Duelbits community and for your understanding.
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See how he is shifting the narrative away from the core issue. While I understand that gambling inherently involves both winning and losing, the issue here is not about losses but rather about unmet promises and a lack of transparency in their bonus system. The attempt to portray Duelbits as purely an "entertainment" platform sidesteps the issue at hand.

Duelbits' response is not in line with the issues I've raised. As a blackjack player, I am well aware of the odds, and my concern is about fairness and transparency, not simply winning or losing. Duelbit head of Support response appears to be a diversion from the core issue.
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September 04, 2023, 11:46:49 PM
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It's good that you created SA thread, I hope your problem will be solved because Duelbits doesn't want to ruin reputation and if there is some misleading, I believe that will be solved! Just saying, if I were you, I would try to make that thread a little short and more focused on actual problem because people don't read long posts.

Thread Updated: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464671

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September 05, 2023, 03:23:49 AM
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Looking at the deep discussion about KYC and also the non-ending one, those who have issues with the KYC should either quit gambling or maybe they should go and play at l-a-s v-a-g-u-s.  Grin No one will identify you but only few thousands peeps will be watching you play at the casino, or may be you getting nicely recorded on the CCTV footage of the casino. If you end up winning huge amounts of money then either someone is going to notice you now and then and end up with new friends!

I highly agree, we don't need to whine about KYC implementation, we are not forced to play in a casino platform, it is our own free will that we register on the site. Since the terms of service is already laid out, we need to follow it once we chooses to agree and register on the site.  Else, no need to create any drama or issue about KYC, just avoid or quit playing if we have an issue about it.

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.









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September 05, 2023, 11:09:23 AM
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but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .
Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.

Yeah, Cost cutting is the typical move of some casino to lessen expenses from affiliates especially for those affiliate that doesn’t invite new referrals and only relying to the existing invites that they already profited for a long time. Retroactive affiliate commission is not new affiliate system of casino since the affiliate can’t pull out their invites anymore once they already registered and made tons of bets in the casino due to VIP level.

main problem would be breaking their word, changing something they promissed
otherwise it may make sense for a casino to leave the affiliate program active for a determined amount of time only, like, let's say, 1-3 years.

duelbits did something like that? I didn't keep up.

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September 05, 2023, 12:40:13 PM
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but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .
Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.

Yeah, Cost cutting is the typical move of some casino to lessen expenses from affiliates especially for those affiliate that doesn’t invite new referrals and only relying to the existing invites that they already profited for a long time. Retroactive affiliate commission is not new affiliate system of casino since the affiliate can’t pull out their invites anymore once they already registered and made tons of bets in the casino due to VIP level.
They have more favor to the ones that are actively having new referrals and affiliates and that's why it's favorable to the active and hardworking ones. That's a motivation for them to keep on working very well not just for the casinos sake but also to them. And as for the Duelbits' affiliate partners, they're sure to have the best partner and casino to work with.

duelbits did something like that? I didn't keep up.
Nope, we're just overwhelmed when nukerboy shared his great affiliate journey with Duelbits.  Smiley
In fact, he praised Duelbits for being the best in affiliate that he has used.

Duelbits is by far the best site in terms of affiliate commissions I have been working with. For $25 000 wagered by my referral they paid me almost the same commission as another website paid me for $180 000 wagered by him there too.
I like also the fact that you know exactly what your bonuses will be Smiley

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September 05, 2023, 03:49:42 PM
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Looking at the deep discussion about KYC and also the non-ending one, those who have issues with the KYC should either quit gambling or maybe they should go and play at l-a-s v-a-g-u-s.  Grin No one will identify you but only few thousands peeps will be watching you play at the casino, or may be you getting nicely recorded on the CCTV footage of the casino. If you end up winning huge amounts of money then either someone is going to notice you now and then and end up with new friends!

I highly agree, we don't need to whine about KYC implementation, we are not forced to play in a casino platform, it is our own free will that we register on the site. Since the terms of service is already laid out, we need to follow it once we chooses to agree and register on the site.  Else, no need to create any drama or issue about KYC, just avoid or quit playing if we have an issue about it.

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.


Maybe they can't just accept the fact that they can't play on the casino they like to play and see that many people enjoy while them did not because they are still skeptical. So they make things complicated to see if their action can chang something, but since those implementation already happen I guess we need to accept that since there's no doubt that it can also be implemented to other casino. Although this is bad for other but this is beauty in disguise to other since they can move their selves away from gambling since they don't like to submit their KYC to them.

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September 06, 2023, 11:38:26 AM
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As a newbie, I can't send you a private message. So I will post a message in this topic, can you help to take a look at my case https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465827 here ? Thanks
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September 06, 2023, 11:51:43 AM
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Looking at the deep discussion about KYC and also the non-ending one, those who have issues with the KYC should either quit gambling or maybe they should go and play at l-a-s v-a-g-u-s.  Grin No one will identify you but only few thousands peeps will be watching you play at the casino, or may be you getting nicely recorded on the CCTV footage of the casino. If you end up winning huge amounts of money then either someone is going to notice you now and then and end up with new friends!

I highly agree, we don't need to whine about KYC implementation, we are not forced to play in a casino platform, it is our own free will that we register on the site. Since the terms of service is already laid out, we need to follow it once we chooses to agree and register on the site.  Else, no need to create any drama or issue about KYC, just avoid or quit playing if we have an issue about it.

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.


Maybe they can't just accept the fact that they can't play on the casino they like to play and see that many people enjoy while them did not because they are still skeptical. So they make things complicated to see if their action can chang something, but since those implementation already happen I guess we need to accept that since there's no doubt that it can also be implemented to other casino. Although this is bad for other but this is beauty in disguise to other since they can move their selves away from gambling since they don't like to submit their KYC to them.
then that is completely their problem mate , because why push your self in something that you cannot pursue? liek you are asking for impossible because these sites are following the rules and laws of each government they are operating .
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As a newbie, I can't send you a private message. So I will post a message in this topic, can you help to take a look at my case https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465827 here ? Thanks
OP is checking this thread from time to time so I think he'll get back to you sooner.









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September 06, 2023, 02:58:51 PM
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Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.
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September 06, 2023, 03:15:59 PM
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Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.
It's not because my signature space is filled with duelbits signature code that I defend duelbits. The problem is don't accuse something too easily when the problem lies with the players.
Many big players who play on duelbits with an average large deposit amount but do not experience problems like the $100 you mentioned.

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September 06, 2023, 03:16:19 PM
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Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

have you considered... waiting?
duelbits is not a scam website as the more than 400 pages in this thread and comments from several users can prove
if you submited your information correctly you'll probably have an answer soon
wait for them to get back

have you opened a ticket about your issue?

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September 06, 2023, 04:38:14 PM
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Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.
Nope, Duelbits isn't a scam. If that's the instruction that was given to you then you really have to wait. If there's no certain time of how long you should wait, you need to be patient. There's no harm if you're going to follow it up so that your concern will be placed on top of the queue again. Remember that you're not the only one that's being taken care of but, it's not an excuse though. You can ask nicely for the follow-up so that you'll know what's the progress of your account and pending approval.

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September 06, 2023, 04:45:31 PM
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but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .
Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.
It's obvious that when you are trying to run a business you have two options for bigger profit. Either you have to cut down on the costs, or you have to end up making business and obviously affiliate is a way to make the income go higher, and cutting the costs is something that will take time but could make it work one way or another.

I think it is obvious that we are not going to end up with a great return one way or another but it is going to be possible in any case. I just hope that people could see the situation and think that it is going to be a fine thing eventually. Duelbits is a great website that has been around for a long time and I think it will stay being around for many more years as well with things like these.

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September 06, 2023, 05:17:53 PM
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Hi, i wager only 100 $ and i want to withdraw my balance but i have in pending for 3 days my withdraw and they want to submit kyc, i complete kyc but for 3 days they told me to wait. For me duelbits is a SCAM site.

You concluded that they are scam jsut because they tell you to wait for your KYC verification to process? This problem of waiting will not gonna happened if you verify your account after you register so the waiting time will be negligible since you are playing.

Typically, it took 7 days or more to verify someone casino account. This is not only for Duelbits but for most of the casino here in the forum. Just wait.

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