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I think it is not a bad idea at all to adjust it that people are automatically blocked by their region.

Most sites are using this. If you are excluding these countries, then it is a perfect and concrete solution.

Then every user knows exactly what he can expect.

[betnomi]

I think it is not a bad idea at all to adjust it that people are automatically blocked by their region.

Most sites are using this. If you are excluding these countries, then it is a perfect and concrete solution.

Then every user knows exactly what he can expect.

Yes, this is a reasonable measure to implement however, we do have other services and applications running on our subdomains which are not required to be restricted in any country.
The blanket geo block is not an efficient solution in this instance as such, we will be using other solutions such as hiding the sign up and sign in buttons for restricted jurisdictions.

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[Bitinity]

I'm interested to know more about the slot tournaments. As per information I read on the tournament, the winner is based on points but there is no clear information on how to get the points. Would you mind to tell me how to get the points, is the points based on our wagering amount or something else? If it is based on wagering amount then how much 1 point worth in USD bet? There is only "the more you bet, the more your score", so I wanna know about the points in more detail information.

[Arcas]

I am not here on the forum to be right. I try to get clarity on sites so that gamblers don't get duped as this happens way too often in my opinion. E
veryone has read how many people are not getting paid because they are said to be from a wrong country or because they have gambled from a country where it is not allowed.

Betnomi tries to discuss this professionally, but refuses to address questions and hypothetical and above all realistic situations. If I am from Germany, bet 10 bitcoins and win 10, then I have 20 bitcoins. Then follows the KYC procedure (mandatory with license from Curacao). Then they see that I am from Germany. And then? Do you really think that Betnomi will pay those 20 bitcoins? I do not think so. Those winnings are withdrawn from the account and the 10 bitcoins from the deposit returned with a bit of luck.

That story of casinos and countries is of course nonsense. A professional platform can easily build in that players who go to the sportsbook will be blocked and allowed at the casino section.

We've all seen what happened at Cloudbet and sportset.io recently (many times). If the KYC is run, and they see that you are from a country that is excluded from participation, then those winnings will be taken. Betnomi will be no exception here, 100%.

Every serious platform with Curacao license, block the restricted areas. Betnomi is not blocking any country, so you can easily deposit funds and lose it. But, if you want to get paid out then for sure the KYC will trigger them and then you can forget your winnings. That is how it always goes.

[zidanw]

I am not here on the forum to be right. I try to get clarity on sites so that gamblers don't get duped as this happens way too often in my opinion. E
veryone has read how many people are not getting paid because they are said to be from a wrong country or because they have gambled from a country where it is not allowed.

Betnomi tries to discuss this professionally, but refuses to address questions and hypothetical and above all realistic situations. If I am from Germany, bet 10 bitcoins and win 10, then I have 20 bitcoins. Then follows the KYC procedure (mandatory with license from Curacao). Then they see that I am from Germany. And then? Do you really think that Betnomi will pay those 20 bitcoins? I do not think so. Those winnings are withdrawn from the account and the 10 bitcoins from the deposit returned with a bit of luck.

That story of casinos and countries is of course nonsense. A professional platform can easily build in that players who go to the sportsbook will be blocked and allowed at the casino section.

We've all seen what happened at Cloudbet and sportset.io recently (many times). If the KYC is run, and they see that you are from a country that is excluded from participation, then those winnings will be taken. Betnomi will be no exception here, 100%.

Every serious platform with Curacao license, block the restricted areas. Betnomi is not blocking any country, so you can easily deposit funds and lose it. But, if you want to get paid out then for sure the KYC will trigger them and then you can forget your winnings. That is how it always goes.

I don't think you can make an accusation against Betnomi at this point. They haven't scammed anyone at all right now.
I do agree that it would be much easier to block players from countries in advance. Otherwise, bookmakers do this too, and they have casinos too.

[betnomi]

I'm interested to know more about the slot tournaments. As per information I read on the tournament, the winner is based on points but there is no clear information on how to get the points. Would you mind to tell me how to get the points, is the points based on our wagering amount or something else? If it is based on wagering amount then how much 1 point worth in USD bet? There is only "the more you bet, the more your score", so I wanna know about the points in more detail information.

Glad you are interested in our tournaments. Below is the information on how these points are calculated. With respect to what these points are worth, the only use case of these points are to determine the winners of the tournament and are not redeemable for cash.


Points are counted by the following formula: Single Win amount/Single Bet amount.
Example:
Player 1 made 4 winning bets: 3 (Winning bet rate)+ 3 (Winning bet rate)+ 5 (Winning bet
rate) + 3 (Winning bet rate) = 14 (Total winning bets rate)
Player 2 made 2 winning bets: 7 (Winning bet rate) + 8 (Winning bet rate) = 15 (Total
winning bets rate).
Player 2 wins.

I don't think you can make an accusation against Betnomi at this point. They haven't scammed anyone at all right now.
I do agree that it would be much easier to block players from countries in advance. Otherwise, bookmakers do this too, and they have casinos too.

We do have a geo-block in place right from the very beginning and still do. There is currently a proposal for a much effective way of restricting jurisdictions that are blacklisted.
Regardless of that, should someone somehow end up in a situation like that, we are not other bookmakers or casinos. If you win, you get your winnings and your account closed afterward and if we noticed this before any gameplay, we will refund your deposit period! we are not interested in Scamming or confiscating anyone's funds. Even though we have the discretion and its stated in our terms and conditions, we are not going to take such action against anyone as we perceive that as unfair.  Just to be clear, this is not an invitation or an incentive for people in restricted territories to use our platform.

[serjent05]

Betnomi tries to discuss this professionally, but refuses to address questions and hypothetical and above all realistic situations. If I am from Germany, bet 10 bitcoins and win 10, then I have 20 bitcoins. Then follows the KYC procedure (mandatory with license from Curacao). Then they see that I am from Germany. And then? Do you really think that Betnomi will pay those 20 bitcoins? I do not think so. Those winnings are withdrawn from the account and the 10 bitcoins from the deposit returned with a bit of luck.

I do get your point, but the question is, why does a player risk things when he knows that his country is blocked by the Gambling site?  It is logical for Betnomi to not pay the winning amount but Betnomi should refund the deposited amount to the player.  If a player country is banned from the site, the player must follow the site rule in order to avoid your given scenario.  It is the player who is at fault here since blocked countries are stated in their TOS.

Like for example, I am really interested in playing in Betnomi since I tried their slots game and was very fond of it but due to Betnomi's TOS that my country is blocked from playing on their site, I don't have any choice but to follow their TOS and just avoid playing so that I won't experience any uncertainties if ever I won an amount from their games.

[panjul07]

Betnomi tries to discuss this professionally, but refuses to address questions and hypothetical and above all realistic situations. If I am from Germany, bet 10 bitcoins and win 10, then I have 20 bitcoins. Then follows the KYC procedure (mandatory with license from Curacao). Then they see that I am from Germany. And then? Do you really think that Betnomi will pay those 20 bitcoins? I do not think so. Those winnings are withdrawn from the account and the 10 bitcoins from the deposit returned with a bit of luck.

I do get your point, but the question is, why does a player risk things when he knows that his country is blocked by the Gambling site?  It is logical for Betnomi to not pay the winning amount but Betnomi should refund the deposited amount to the player.  If a player country is banned from the site, the player must follow the site rule in order to avoid your given scenario.  It is the player who is at fault here since blocked countries are stated in their TOS.

Like for example, I am really interested in playing in Betnomi since I tried their slots game and was very fond of it but due to Betnomi's TOS that my country is blocked from playing on their site, I don't have any choice but to follow their TOS and just avoid playing so that I won't experience any uncertainties if ever I won an amount from their games.

This is the reason why it is important to read ToS of any sites where we are going to play.
There are basically some other sites that can be accessed from all countries but the sites are basically restricted to some countries.
Once a user decided to play but did not read the ToS first and as what happened is the same as the example given by Arcas, for sure the players should accept any decision from the casino site.
So if the site decide not pay the winning because of breaking the rules, player should not blame the site as the fault is on the player who did not read the ToS.
I do believe all sites has their own rules for such cases, high likely the site will return the deposited money back but forfeit the winning.

[mitchr4]

I don't know if this is some kind of error or not, when I try to register in the chrome browser on my ipad the username column is not available, I can only use email. After switching to safari (it's pc view) i can register with a username and email. Or maybe mobile users can only use email?

[wildan88]

I did not check the site for a while. last time there were problems. The issue with browsers is a common one, I think. sometimes browsers are not supported.
i think it is also the duty from a sportsbook to make sure the most used browsers are supported. maybe betnomi can clarify why its not working. can be an easy small thing.

[betnomi]

I don't know if this is some kind of error or not, when I try to register in the chrome browser on my ipad the username column is not available, I can only use email. After switching to safari (it's pc view) i can register with a username and email. Or maybe mobile users can only use email?

This is correct. Mobile version and desktop version are fully optimized and will continue to improve it. As for tablet version of our website, we are yet to update it. As most users are using mobile and desktop.
In the next few days, tablet version will be ready as well.

Regarding browser support, our website supports all browsers. If there are any browser related issues, please update your browser to the latest version

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I did not check the site for a while. last time there were problems. The issue with browsers is a common one, I think. sometimes browsers are not supported.
i think it is also the duty from a sportsbook to make sure the most used browsers are supported. maybe betnomi can clarify why its not working. can be an easy small thing.

Have you updated your browser? I think everything in the mobile and desktop versions is fine about that and @betnomi has already said this because the update is perfect.
I have tried it in various browsers like Mozilla, chrome safari etc. everything is running smoothly, why can control happen to you? What is the problem of not being able to access or crashing the browser?

[toast]

on my computer it works, I also tried multiple browsers without any problems. like already mentioned, it may work if you update the browser sometimes. i had problems with other things when i did not update the browser

[Arcas]

I'm interested to know more about the slot tournaments. As per information I read on the tournament, the winner is based on points but there is no clear information on how to get the points. Would you mind to tell me how to get the points, is the points based on our wagering amount or something else? If it is based on wagering amount then how much 1 point worth in USD bet? There is only "the more you bet, the more your score", so I wanna know about the points in more detail information.

Glad you are interested in our tournaments. Below is the information on how these points are calculated. With respect to what these points are worth, the only use case of these points are to determine the winners of the tournament and are not redeemable for cash.


Points are counted by the following formula: Single Win amount/Single Bet amount.
Example:
Player 1 made 4 winning bets: 3 (Winning bet rate)+ 3 (Winning bet rate)+ 5 (Winning bet
rate) + 3 (Winning bet rate) = 14 (Total winning bets rate)
Player 2 made 2 winning bets: 7 (Winning bet rate) + 8 (Winning bet rate) = 15 (Total
winning bets rate).
Player 2 wins.

I don't think you can make an accusation against Betnomi at this point. They haven't scammed anyone at all right now.
I do agree that it would be much easier to block players from countries in advance. Otherwise, bookmakers do this too, and they have casinos too.

We do have a geo-block in place right from the very beginning and still do. There is currently a proposal for a much effective way of restricting jurisdictions that are blacklisted.
Regardless of that, should someone somehow end up in a situation like that, we are not other bookmakers or casinos. If you win, you get your winnings and your account closed afterward and if we noticed this before any gameplay, we will refund your deposit period! we are not interested in Scamming or confiscating anyone's funds. Even though we have the discretion and its stated in our terms and conditions, we are not going to take such action against anyone as we perceive that as unfair.  Just to be clear, this is not an invitation or an incentive for people in restricted territories to use our platform.

That is to good to be true. If playing on your site is illegal, then we all know how it will end on the moment you do a KYC procedure. We saw that with Cloudbet a few weeks ago, and Sportsbet.io used this trick also many times to confiscate funds.
If somebody is gambling from a restricted area on your site, and he wins, then he will get lucky if he gets his deposit back.
It does not make any sense what you are doing now.

I say it once again: If you have restricted countries on the list, block them and do not let them register.
You can also change the terms maybe, after all you have some experience with changing it, since you changed it already 100 times now.

[sempak]

Betnomi tries to discuss this professionally, but refuses to address questions and hypothetical and above all realistic situations. If I am from Germany, bet 10 bitcoins and win 10, then I have 20 bitcoins. Then follows the KYC procedure (mandatory with license from Curacao). Then they see that I am from Germany. And then? Do you really think that Betnomi will pay those 20 bitcoins? I do not think so. Those winnings are withdrawn from the account and the 10 bitcoins from the deposit returned with a bit of luck.

I do get your point, but the question is, why does a player risk things when he knows that his country is blocked by the Gambling site?  It is logical for Betnomi to not pay the winning amount but Betnomi should refund the deposited amount to the player.  If a player country is banned from the site, the player must follow the site rule in order to avoid your given scenario.  It is the player who is at fault here since blocked countries are stated in their TOS.

Like for example, I am really interested in playing in Betnomi since I tried their slots game and was very fond of it but due to Betnomi's TOS that my country is blocked from playing on their site, I don't have any choice but to follow their TOS and just avoid playing so that I won't experience any uncertainties if ever I won an amount from their games.

This is the reason why it is important to read ToS of any sites where we are going to play.
There are basically some other sites that can be accessed from all countries but the sites are basically restricted to some countries.
Once a user decided to play but did not read the ToS first and as what happened is the same as the example given by Arcas, for sure the players should accept any decision from the casino site.
So if the site decide not pay the winning because of breaking the rules, player should not blame the site as the fault is on the player who did not read the ToS.
I do believe all sites has their own rules for such cases, high likely the site will return the deposited money back but forfeit the winning.

You are right in this situation. A player is responsible for reading the ToS properly, as he agrees to this. The question is whether you should do that at Betnomi, all posts that have been made are extremely debatable. Betnomi has often changed the terms and conditions (that's okay in itself) but has also published company data from another company, under the guise that it is just a template.
In that regard, you don't have to place much value on the terms and conditions of this site.

[BTCGOLD]

Betnomi tries to discuss this professionally, but refuses to address questions and hypothetical and above all realistic situations. If I am from Germany, bet 10 bitcoins and win 10, then I have 20 bitcoins. Then follows the KYC procedure (mandatory with license from Curacao). Then they see that I am from Germany. And then? Do you really think that Betnomi will pay those 20 bitcoins? I do not think so. Those winnings are withdrawn from the account and the 10 bitcoins from the deposit returned with a bit of luck.

I do get your point, but the question is, why does a player risk things when he knows that his country is blocked by the Gambling site?  It is logical for Betnomi to not pay the winning amount but Betnomi should refund the deposited amount to the player.  If a player country is banned from the site, the player must follow the site rule in order to avoid your given scenario.  It is the player who is at fault here since blocked countries are stated in their TOS.

Like for example, I am really interested in playing in Betnomi since I tried their slots game and was very fond of it but due to Betnomi's TOS that my country is blocked from playing on their site, I don't have any choice but to follow their TOS and just avoid playing so that I won't experience any uncertainties if ever I won an amount from their games.

This is the reason why it is important to read ToS of any sites where we are going to play.
There are basically some other sites that can be accessed from all countries but the sites are basically restricted to some countries.
Once a user decided to play but did not read the ToS first and as what happened is the same as the example given by Arcas, for sure the players should accept any decision from the casino site.
So if the site decide not pay the winning because of breaking the rules, player should not blame the site as the fault is on the player who did not read the ToS.
I do believe all sites has their own rules for such cases, high likely the site will return the deposited money back but forfeit the winning.

You are right in this situation. A player is responsible for reading the ToS properly, as he agrees to this. The question is whether you should do that at Betnomi, all posts that have been made are extremely debatable. Betnomi has often changed the terms and conditions (that's okay in itself) but has also published company data from another company, under the guise that it is just a template.
In that regard, you don't have to place much value on the terms and conditions of this site.

both player and casino are responsible. Player must read the terms and conditions and understand what he is entering into an agreement with. He is therefore responsible for that himself.
A casino can do whatever it wants if the terms are violated. Therefore a casino must intervene preventively to ensure that players from excluded countries cannot access the site. Stake.com has also implemented this, for example. You can assume that a casino with loyalty is professional, so that they also have professional software and professional solutions.
If this does not happen, we will again have fierce discussions and disputes. Easy to prevent/solve with an IP exclusion.

[betnomi]

both player and casino are responsible. Player must read the terms and conditions and understand what he is entering into an agreement with. He is therefore responsible for that himself.
A casino can do whatever it wants if the terms are violated. Therefore a casino must intervene preventively to ensure that players from excluded countries cannot access the site. Stake.com has also implemented this, for example. You can assume that a casino with loyalty is professional, so that they also have professional software and professional solutions.
If this does not happen, we will again have fierce discussions and disputes. Easy to prevent/solve with an IP exclusion.

We have implemented the feature that will make the sign in/ sign up button for restricted territories.
Currently in the list are:  Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Curacao, Netherlands, united states and territories,
Cayman island, France and Singapore.

Once we can confirm this feature is working effectively, we will add all restricted countries mentioned in our ToS to it.
If there is any one from these countries, kindly confirm the sign up/sign buttons are unavailable to you.

Thank you all.

[nasipadang]

It is good that you have updated the list. And sharing the information on the forum here (what you always do) is also a positive point.

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Does anyone have any experiences that they can share at this casino? I am curious about the experiences and am considering taking a small gamble.

Do want to hear an experience from someone first, and especially how the procedure with payment went, if you won, of course.

If you lost you don't have to share the experience, that's not good for my motivation