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August 25, 2021, 07:37:05 PM
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Every exchange & casino always has some "KYC" is already common.

Even the casino has "anonymous feature" but as always according to the "F.A.Q" they always can ask user to do some "KYC" if have some investigation to the account. So, never believe there is no "KYC", I will give you some advice.

If you want to avoid facing "KYC" issue, play with a small money, maybe just a hundred dollars or even lower they never ask "KYC". Most of issue and experience, I read on forum while you win really big and want to withdraw a huge money the system will flag you need to be manual transaction while they have automatically withdraw if the fund is small or not exceeding manual transaction amount fund.

They will buy some time, with asking you to do KYC.
I don't know but I also noticed that, if you are playing with a small bankroll and stay playing that way, there's no requirement that being asked to complete KYC.

Unless you won a huge amount of money or there are some suspicious transfer with your account, casino might ask you to provide KYC.

The last part of your statement, possible that it's a good way to buy some time before paying the client, asking for KYC before releasing a big amount of winnings. Lots of cases that being resolved once the KYC was submitted.

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August 25, 2021, 09:06:46 PM
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Thank you very much for the thread, the truth is that I had not come across this gold mine, a long time ago I was looking for this list on google.com, of course it was in a moment of emergency and then my mind does not occur to me that I have checked the forum It should be noted that now Stake.com has a very good withdrawal rate, my last withdrawal only charged me 7 thousand sats. which did not seem expensive to me, I think the low fees mean there is not much need to use an internal exchange, however I have a friend in Spain who was looking for online casinos that could deposit in TRX and ADA to play and then him withdraw your earnings (if any) to BTC.

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August 25, 2021, 10:21:06 PM
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Thank you very much for the thread, the truth is that I had not come across this gold mine, a long time ago I was looking for this list on google.com, of course it was in a moment of emergency and then my mind does not occur to me that I have checked the forum It should be noted that now Stake.com has a very good withdrawal rate, my last withdrawal only charged me 7 thousand sats. which did not seem expensive to me, I think the low fees mean there is not much need to use an internal exchange, however I have a friend in Spain who was looking for online casinos that could deposit in TRX and ADA to play and then him withdraw your earnings (if any) to BTC.


you're welcome. i hope this list will really be of help for some gamblers here who are looking for sites with internal exchange, it may help them in terms of transfer purposes or saving fees. for TRX & ADA, i can only see duckdice supporting the ADA coin, but with TRX, there are several casinos. you can refer this thread to him and maybe he will find what he's looking for.

indeed, stake reduced its withdrawal fees to 7k, i also suggested that change to pmalek, which has his thread regarding table of withdrawal fees & withdrawal amounts on crypto casinos

also, for those who are asking about the KYC part, i put a note in the OP that all the sites so far in my list don't require KYC, so i haven't added that column. unless, some sites changed their ToS. but some i believe require KYC if you exceed their max limits, or if they feel there are suspicious activities and so on.

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August 26, 2021, 12:58:51 AM
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Highly recommend that absolutely no one use these internal services.

They essentially profit off the impatience and impulse of players who want to access another coin quickly. Fees as the table shows can go up to 5-10% easily, and spreads can contribute even more to that overall figure. Would you play a dice game where the house edge is 5% instead of 1%? Probably not.

Even using an instant exchanger gives you better outcomes than this. A bit of effort goes a long way here.

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August 26, 2021, 02:57:08 PM
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Every exchange & casino always has some "KYC" is already common.

Even the casino has "anonymous feature" but as always according to the "F.A.Q" they always can ask user to do some "KYC" if have some investigation to the account. So, never believe there is no "KYC", I will give you some advice.

If you want to avoid facing "KYC" issue, play with a small money, maybe just a hundred dollars or even lower they never ask "KYC". Most of issue and experience, I read on forum while you win really big and want to withdraw a huge money the system will flag you need to be manual transaction while they have automatically withdraw if the fund is small or not exceeding manual transaction amount fund.

They will buy some time, with asking you to do KYC.
They can ask KYC if gambler submits a big withdrawal.

If I am serious about gambling, with big money on a gambling site, I will submit documents and pass KYC first, before I begin to make deposit and gamble.

I see some scam accusations that gambling sites allow customers to gamble and only after customers submit big withdrawal, they pull their KYC card. If gamblers only lose on their casinos, ok, keep up your deposit and lost bets. They don't mind about KYC.

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August 28, 2021, 01:32:40 AM
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Every exchange & casino always has some "KYC" is already common.

Even the casino has "anonymous feature" but as always according to the "F.A.Q" they always can ask user to do some "KYC" if have some investigation to the account. So, never believe there is no "KYC", I will give you some advice.

If you want to avoid facing "KYC" issue, play with a small money, maybe just a hundred dollars or even lower they never ask "KYC". Most of issue and experience, I read on forum while you win really big and want to withdraw a huge money the system will flag you need to be manual transaction while they have automatically withdraw if the fund is small or not exceeding manual transaction amount fund.

They will buy some time, with asking you to do KYC.
They can ask KYC if gambler submits a big withdrawal.

If I am serious about gambling, with big money on a gambling site, I will submit documents and pass KYC first, before I begin to make deposit and gamble.

I see some scam accusations that gambling sites allow customers to gamble and only after customers submit big withdrawal, they pull their KYC card. If gamblers only lose on their casinos, ok, keep up your deposit and lost bets. They don't mind about KYC.
That will not be a problem if we play gambling on the recommended gambling site or a gambling site that have reputations because they will not scam their customer and sell their data to others because that can ruin their business shortly. It is normal if someone wants to break their limit in deposit or withdraw because they do not want to have a problem in the future.

Having an exchange inside the gambling site will help a gambler to convert their coin into their favorite coins and that will use to reduce the fee that they need to pay when they want to withdraw their win money.

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August 28, 2021, 01:42:19 AM
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I don't know but I also noticed that, if you are playing with a small bankroll and stay playing that way, there's no requirement that being asked to complete KYC. Unless you won a huge amount of money or there are some suspicious transfer with your account, casino might ask you to provide KYC.

It's just fine to play with a big bankroll or win a huge amount of money however when it comes to big withdrawals, that's the time users will catch their attention as it triggers the bell on their system.

To somehow solve this, just withdraw by batches. But what amount can be considered as big withdrawals? I don't encounter yet an issue wherein a site asks KYC for less than $1,000 one-time withdrawal unless that site is not reputable. From there, we can then conclude that $1,000 minimum at least shouldn't trigger the bell or you won't get their attention. That was even a small amount to consider for a single withdrawal honestly. Sounds hassle to withdraw by batches if you won big but worth trying to avoid a hassle just in case.

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August 28, 2021, 02:01:04 PM
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I don't know but I also noticed that, if you are playing with a small bankroll and stay playing that way, there's no requirement that being asked to complete KYC. Unless you won a huge amount of money or there are some suspicious transfer with your account, casino might ask you to provide KYC.

It's just fine to play with a big bankroll or win a huge amount of money however when it comes to big withdrawals, that's the time users will catch their attention as it triggers the bell on their system.

To somehow solve this, just withdraw by batches. But what amount can be considered as big withdrawals? I don't encounter yet an issue wherein a site asks KYC for less than $1,000 one-time withdrawal unless that site is not reputable. From there, we can then conclude that $1,000 minimum at least shouldn't trigger the bell or you won't get their attention. That was even a small amount to consider for a single withdrawal honestly. Sounds hassle to withdraw by batches if you won big but worth trying to avoid a hassle just in case.

There are actually online casinos that offer a huge minimum withdrawal without any hassle. That's the first thing that most gamblers are looking for in a certain site. Yes, the fees might be quite high which is normal but the withdrawal should be smooth. We can divide or withdraw it by batch so we won't be needing KYC.
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August 28, 2021, 02:27:47 PM
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Is the lists updated? looks like the fees doesn't gets lower than 3% well the advantage of this is you can mix up your coin and have a clean coin or to have an anonymous and clean coin other than exchanging it but the most use of it is if the fee is high on Bitcoin and Ethereum they will convert it to other coin and withdraw that.
Using the internal exchange of a casino as a mixture and erase your trace of your coins is too expensive also your are not completely untraceable since the casinos may ask you to do KYC so they can find the path of your connected wallet along with your real identity.









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August 28, 2021, 03:24:25 PM
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new addition :
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everyone is free to post their suggestions and will add them accordingly.
Dice.one website isn't accessible now. Their domain registration has expired few days ago. It's better to remove them from the list. Also update the supported coin list of Tower.bet, they support all those coins which is supported by DuckDice. And update the exchange fee of BetJA, currently the fee is 2%.

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August 28, 2021, 08:14:50 PM
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new addition :
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everyone is free to post their suggestions and will add them accordingly.
Dice.one website isn't accessible now. Their domain registration has expired few days ago. It's better to remove them from the list. Also update the supported coin list of Tower.bet, they support all those coins which is supported by DuckDice. And update the exchange fee of BetJA, currently the fee is 2%.

yes, thanks for that. i read that dice.one unfortunately closed down. been a while already and their stakers over there are complaining that they haven't gotten their money back because the dice had no more value when they announced about the closure. this is why players should really be careful in investing or storing their funds in a site, you'll never know their plans.

i'll go over the list and  will update the changes. thanks for those info.

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August 28, 2021, 08:35:30 PM
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new addition :
dice.one
everyone is free to post their suggestions and will add them accordingly.
Dice.one website isn't accessible now. Their domain registration has expired few days ago. It's better to remove them from the list. Also update the supported coin list of Tower.bet, they support all those coins which is supported by DuckDice. And update the exchange fee of BetJA, currently the fee is 2%.

yes, thanks for that. i read that dice.one unfortunately closed down. been a while already and their stakers over there are complaining that they haven't gotten their money back because the dice had no more value when they announced about the closure. this is why players should really be careful in investing or storing their funds in a site, you'll never know their plans.

i'll go over the list and  will update the changes. thanks for those info.
I can confirm that it isn't accessible. I guess that's the reason some of the dice sites that we knew have closed down because the competition is already tough and they can no longer sustain their business and since their main focus is about dice, did they tried to upgrade and at least added some more games? Good luck to their investors and if they happen to settle it then that's good for those investors that are still in discussion unless dice.one is no longer open for any talks and they're already announced they'll no longer catering any inquiries about the stuck investments as they close.

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August 29, 2021, 07:49:10 AM
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as ive seen topic focusing on casinos offering no withdrawal fees, I made a list of casinos with internal exchange (usually can be found in their cashier tab) along with the supported cryptocurrencies.
for those gamblers who are interested in exchanging their coins before playing and before withdrawal =

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Betfury.ioBTC, BTT, TRX, DOGE, LTC, USDC, BUSD, DAI, ETH, BNB, USDT, BTT, SUN, LINK, CHZ, BAT, ZRX, ENJ, ZIL, OMG, ONT, STORJ, GLM, HOT, UNI, SUSHI, CAKE, YFI, UMA, 1INCH, REEF, SNX, AAVE, COMP, MKR, DASH, BCH, BSW, BFG, MATIC USD, EUR, GBP Fiat/Crypto Swap via Changelly on their website
BetJA.comBTC, ETH, BCH, LTC, BNB PM, WM2 other coins avail -XRP, TRX, DOGE but not included in the exchange
Bitsler.comBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, USDT, ZEC, NEO, ETC, DGB, EOS, XLM, DASH, BSV, BTG, QTUMN/A5Bitsler Casino - How to use the Exchanger?
Crypto.GamesBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, DASH, NEO, STRAT, XMR, GASN/A3Exchange rates can be found on their website
Duckdice.ioBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, USDT, ZEC, DASH, XLM, XMR, BTG, TRX, ETC, BTT, BTG, EOS, BNB, ADA, USDC, DAIUAH, RUB, USD, EUR3Exchange rates can be found on their website
Fairlay.comBTC, ETH, LTC, BCH, DASHN/AExchange rates can be found on their website
Luckydice.comBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, XRP, DASHUSD, EUR and more1Over 20 FIAT currencies accepted
Tower.betBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, USDT, ZEC, DASH, XLM, XMR, BTG, ETC, BNB, TRX, EOS, DAI, USDC, ADA, BTTN/A3Exchange rates can be found on their website
Windice.ioBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRPN/A5N/A
Wintomato.comBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, USDT, LINK, XLM, UNI, REEF, SHIBN/A4.9Min. exchange amount = $9.8 (you can check on their site about the equiv amt of your coin)
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Freebitco.inBTC, FUNN/AExchange rates b/w BTC & FUN can be found on their website
Rocket.runSPD >> BTC, ETH, LTC, XLM, XRP N/AExchange rates of SPD to those mentioned alts can be found on their website
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Note : Gambling sites using Third Party Services
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Gambling WebsiteSupported CryptocurrenciesSupported FIATEff. Exchange Fee, %Additional Notes
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Primedice.comBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOSN/A Buy crypto via MoonPay
Stake.comBTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, EOSN/A Buy crypto via MoonPay
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You can also exchange your funds between/inside these casinos (stake & primedice), using the services of cryptogamblers.pub. Dinabot conversion rates 3-5% (can use available promo codes to reduce the rate).

*special thanks to bullrun2020bro for the table format and hosseinimr93 for calculating the approx. exchange fee (ref. CoinGecko.)

NOTE : since all of the gambling sites listed so far have NO KYC requirements, i removed the column asking if it requires KYC or not, so we will just add under Additional Notes if it requires KYC, otherwise, the site has NO KYC

for those who want to add gambling site, you can use this format :

Code:
site link : 
supported crypto :
supported fiat :
KYC :
eff. exchange fee, % :
other notes :

suggestions are welcome and this post will be updated accordingly. thanks!


The idea of creating such a list is a good one. This information can come in handy. But so far the list is very short.
How do you plan to develop it and fill it with new lines and names?



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The idea of creating such a list is a good one. This information can come in handy. But so far the list is very short.
How do you plan to develop it and fill it with new lines and names?

Maybe those are only casinos who have internal exchange. There are a lot of gambling sites here but not all of them have their own internal exchange. So if you know others, why not suggest the site and give the details as posted in the OP's format of details?
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I was just thinking about Rollbit if this gambling site also belongs to this list, a gambling site that has a trading feature inside also considers has an internal exchange. I dont actually try to trade with Rollbit but upon having research I end up thinking about Rollbit too. So what do you think OP, is this possible to add?

It is good to have this list and actually I already bookmarked this, when you want to gamble and withdraw using bitcoin, you can exchange it into a cheap transaction fee altcoins.

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Surprising to see Betfury have fiat support thanks to changelly. The ones that I have actually used before are the Crypto.Games that supported STRAT years ago.

Has anyone ever had experience a gambling casino that has to add funds into their exchange and coincidentally found out your swap didn't get through because the exchange has no funds in their internal exchange?  I have experienced this on Bethash.io


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I don't know but I also noticed that, if you are playing with a small bankroll and stay playing that way, there's no requirement that being asked to complete KYC. Unless you won a huge amount of money or there are some suspicious transfer with your account, casino might ask you to provide KYC.

It's just fine to play with a big bankroll or win a huge amount of money however when it comes to big withdrawals, that's the time users will catch their attention as it triggers the bell on their system.

To somehow solve this, just withdraw by batches. But what amount can be considered as big withdrawals? I don't encounter yet an issue wherein a site asks KYC for less than $1,000 one-time withdrawal unless that site is not reputable. From there, we can then conclude that $1,000 minimum at least shouldn't trigger the bell or you won't get their attention. That was even a small amount to consider for a single withdrawal honestly. Sounds hassle to withdraw by batches if you won big but worth trying to avoid a hassle just in case.

No problem doing batch by batch if you are really concerned with the KYC, furthermore if you won that amount and you are trying to move your winnings.

It won't affect much, though if it's not winning money that fees will hurt you up just to avoid completing the KYC requirement.

Gamblers who want to hide their identities mostly deal with this. They are aware of the fees and they still continue knowing that
it's the only way not to ask for anything but smoothly transact and play whenever they love with no trace.

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I'd like to recommend bcgame to be added, considering they have an internal exchange too named "BCSwap" and yet it still missing from the list

- Site link? BC.Game
- Supported crypto? BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, XRP, TRX, USDT, LINK, DOT, BSV, XLM, EOS, XMR, and BCD (their own stablecoin but doesn't have any actual blockchain)
- Supported fiat? No
- KYC? Not required
- Eff. exchange fee? I'm not too sure about this one, it might almost zero fees. 1%-1.5% for altcoins and 2.5%-3% for Bitcoin.
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I'd like to recommend bcgame to be added, considering they have an internal exchange too named "BCSwap" and yet it still missing from the list

- Site link? BC.Game
- Supported crypto? BTC, ETH, LTC, DOGE, BCH, XRP, TRX, USDT, and etc (most likely they support exchange for all cryptos on their list)
- Supported fiat? No
- KYC? Not required
- Eff. exchange fee? I'm not too sure about this one, it might almost zero fees.
I was going to mention about them too. But you have done it before me. However, you have missed some supported crypto. Beside those coins they also support LINK, DOT, BSV, XLM, EOS, XMR and BCD (own developed coin by bc.game & 1 BCD= 1 USD) in BCSwap. They don't support BCH in their internal exchange service. And BSV deposits and withdrawals are under maintenance now. So it's not possible to exchange BSV as well and it gives an error message. Exchange fee is around 1%-1.5% for altcoins and 2.5%-3% for Bitcoin.

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