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November 20, 2020, 10:50:08 PM
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I remembered when Canelo fought Mayweather last 2013 and from that fight, Canelo learned and trained from that fight. He gain all the knowledge, skill, and discipline which made him today's perfect warrior especially in his weight class. If I were to gamble and bet again (I vowed to stop), this would be one of the few exceptions that would let me gamble again.

Callum punches is no push over, but he may never had a great fight such as Canelo. Definitely a good fight, especially when the boxers likes to brawl this would be a good fight but i think Canelo would dominate this match considering he has face such Golovkin.
I wonder if Callum can match Canelo in his fighting style.

The power and technique that Canelo practiced is just too much but I do believe that this would be a good fight!

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November 20, 2020, 11:02:16 PM
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I remembered when Canelo fought Mayweather last 2013 and from that fight, Canelo learned and trained from that fight. He gain all the knowledge, skill, and discipline which made him today's perfect warrior especially in his weight class. If I were to gamble and bet again (I vowed to stop), this would be one of the few exceptions that would let me gamble again.
So you like to see a rematch between Canelo and Mayweather? I think this is going to be a good fight now that Canelo has already improved and have matured as a boxer, after that loss, he was so exceptional in all of his fights but if I were to choose, I'd rather see a Canelo vs GGG trilogy.



Callum punches is no push over, but he may never had a great fight such as Canelo. Definitely a good fight, especially when the boxers likes to brawl this would be a good fight but i think Canelo would dominate this match considering he has face such Golovkin.
I wonder if Callum can match Canelo in his fighting style.

The power and technique that Canelo practiced is just too much but I do believe that this would be a good fight!

Let's hope for that, Callum is not a known fighter for me, so I believe it's a tune up fright for Canelo on his next big fight.

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November 21, 2020, 01:36:49 AM
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Canelo Alvarez (53-1-2) is back in action after November 2019 and win against russian Sergey Kovalev and winning WBO World Light-Heavyweight title.
In total he had 36 KOs so far.

Callum Smith (27-0) has great winning record and  19 KOs and he wanted this fight for a long time, and this will be great fight between Mexico and UK.

Odds suggest that Alvarez is heavy favorite in this fight with around 70% chance of winning and that is not surprising.
I am still waiting to see odds for this fight on some crypto bookies, and I could not find it on Sportsbet or any other I use.

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November 21, 2020, 02:38:00 AM
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I remembered when Canelo fought Mayweather last 2013 and from that fight, Canelo learned and trained from that fight. He gain all the knowledge, skill, and discipline which made him today's perfect warrior especially in his weight class. If I were to gamble and bet again (I vowed to stop), this would be one of the few exceptions that would let me gamble again.
So you like to see a rematch between Canelo and Mayweather? I think this is going to be a good fight now that Canelo has already improved and have matured as a boxer, after that loss, he was so exceptional in all of his fights but if I were to choose, I'd rather see a Canelo vs GGG trilogy.

Won't happened, Canelo can't squeeze to 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And Mayweather can't go as high as 160 lbs or 168 lbs, so I don't see it happening anytime in the future. But the Canelo that fought Mayweather is too green, outside of Mexico, no one really know him that time, however, Oscar was able to match him with Floyd that time.

@notblox1 - yes, probably 5-1 favorite at the start and grow as the fight gets close, no surprise, let's wait for the official odds, probably we will see in next week or before Dec. 1.

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November 21, 2020, 04:13:54 AM
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Won't happened, Canelo can't squeeze to 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And Mayweather can't go as high as 160 lbs or 168 lbs, so I don't see it happening anytime in the future. But the Canelo that fought Mayweather is too green, outside of Mexico, no one really know him that time, however, Oscar was able to match him with Floyd that time.

@notblox1 - yes, probably 5-1 favorite at the start and grow as the fight gets close, no surprise, let's wait for the official odds, probably we will see in next week or before Dec. 1.

I expect a lot of British fans to put money on Callum Smith and move the odds closer. We know how hard it is to beat Canelo on the scorecards. Even when Floyd swept almost every round against him he was still able to get a favorable score from judge CJ Ross. That's probably why the odds are so wide and don't reflect how competitive this fight will be.

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November 21, 2020, 07:06:12 AM
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Won't happened, Canelo can't squeeze to 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And Mayweather can't go as high as 160 lbs or 168 lbs, so I don't see it happening anytime in the future. But the Canelo that fought Mayweather is too green, outside of Mexico, no one really know him that time, however, Oscar was able to match him with Floyd that time.

@notblox1 - yes, probably 5-1 favorite at the start and grow as the fight gets close, no surprise, let's wait for the official odds, probably we will see in next week or before Dec. 1.

I expect a lot of British fans to put money on Callum Smith and move the odds closer. We know how hard it is to beat Canelo on the scorecards. Even when Floyd swept almost every round against him he was still able to get a favorable score from judge CJ Ross. That's probably why the odds are so wide and don't reflect how competitive this fight will be.
Yes, just like the way they support Hatton during the Pacquaio fight. Really hard to beat Canelo on the scorecards, we have been GGG almost do it, but not enough for the judges scorecard. Not sure what will be the odds, the only thing clear for now is that it's going to be a wide margin in Canelo, just a couple more weeks and let's see how British fans will close the gap with their money bet on Callum Smith.
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November 21, 2020, 07:19:11 AM
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I tried checking their records but it seem that Canelo has been listed as Saul Alvarez so I am a little curious why there is a little change in their names.
Saul Alvarez is his real name, Canelo is like a name in the boxing world, like Floyld for Money or Manny for pacman, that's their alias and it's easy to recognize since it's just a short one.

He is known to boxing fans as "Canelo" and when we saw that name, it is automatic that it refers to Saul Alvarez.

Callum Smith really has a chance to beat the Mexican in this fight because he is the bigger fighter of the two and that alone is the biggest advantage of this fight though Canelo is more technical but if the former could impose his size on Canelo, upset could happen.

Who knows, but  yes it's a good advantage for Smith as he's much bigger and he's reach is really
have a big difference.But in the other hand, if we still remember how Pacman beats Thurman who
also have a good advantage not  just in  height and reach but also at age. But then again we will
only knew it when the bell went  out and the announcer declared who wins. The fight is getting
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November 21, 2020, 12:06:28 PM
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I'm also loving the fact that Callum Smith is the underdog because I will give him the a good chance to upset Alvarez. Don't underestimate Smith here, he is too big for Canelo and has the punching power to crack that granite chin. Sooner it later it will be broken and I think Callum Smith will be the one. If there is already opening on sportbet.io, I will have Callum by KO/TKO or ML.

Good choice but the seeing the last fight of Callum which was not impressive, i will bet for Canelo. Smith bing too big for Canelo, can't be KO'ed and that is why i will go for Canelo via unanimous decision if the odds is attractive enough. I have now the impression that team Canelo have chosen Smith for his December return because of the latter's not impressive performance on his last outing which can be considered as cherry picking lol.

It won't be attractive odds for Canelo, either ML or via UD.

Yes, they have factor what Callum have shown in the last fight, there are boxing fans that says Callum lost that fight. Either way, it could be cherry picking or they think that Callum is a good stylistic match up for Canelo and showcase his strengths again and retain his pound for pound rankings.

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November 21, 2020, 07:14:59 PM
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Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

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November 21, 2020, 09:18:59 PM
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Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

That's what separate against a special against and ordinary one, they are focus in everything they do, they trained hard and they don't take games for granted like they underestimate their opponent, I think Canelo have seen the biggest upset this year, so he would not allow that to happen to him.

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November 21, 2020, 09:38:15 PM
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Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

Caleb was the first option for a Canelo return but i don't know why it was scrapped and he was replaced by Callum Smith which on my opinion more worthy of an opponent than Caleb. If we have to look at the tale of the tape, it's some sort of a David vs Goliath thing  Smiley. Smith has the height and reach advantage and they are putting Canelo as the favorite to win which i also believed he will.

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November 21, 2020, 09:57:52 PM
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The venue will be on Alamodome, the same venue for the Davis vs Sta. Cruz fight, so there will be some fans in attendance.

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he sport’s leading attraction now has a home for his long-awaited ring return.

Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez’s upcoming showdown with unbeaten super middleweight titlist Callum Smith (27-0, 19KOs) has landed at The Alamodome in San Antonio, BoxingScene.com has learned. The multi-purpose venue—which seats up to 72,000 during healthier times—will be configured to allow as many fans as social distancing parameters will allow for their December 19 headliner, which will air live on DAZN-USA

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-callum-smith-alamodome-san-antonio--153407

Good choice of venue, at least boxing fans can see live fights starring the cash cow of boxing right now.

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November 22, 2020, 12:31:52 AM
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Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

Caleb was the first option for a Canelo return but i don't know why it was scrapped and he was replaced by Callum Smith which on my opinion more worthy of an opponent than Caleb. If we have to look at the tale of the tape, it's some sort of a David vs Goliath thing  Smiley. Smith has the height and reach advantage and they are putting Canelo as the favorite to win which i also believed he will.

The only way to make the Plant fight was by putting it on PPV which would have required more effort in marketing. There is not enough time left in the schedule and they also have to work around the Spence vs. Garcia fight. It was easier to go with the DAZN option because it is a cheaper price and they already have a subscriber base. Canelo will likely explore the PPV option again next year after this fight if he thinks there is more money to be made going that route.

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November 22, 2020, 03:44:00 AM
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Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

Caleb was the first option for a Canelo return but i don't know why it was scrapped and he was replaced by Callum Smith which on my opinion more worthy of an opponent than Caleb. If we have to look at the tale of the tape, it's some sort of a David vs Goliath thing  Smiley. Smith has the height and reach advantage and they are putting Canelo as the favorite to win which i also believed he will.

The only way to make the Plant fight was by putting it on PPV which would have required more effort in marketing. There is not enough time left in the schedule and they also have to work around the Spence vs. Garcia fight. It was easier to go with the DAZN option because it is a cheaper price and they already have a subscriber base. Canelo will likely explore the PPV option again next year after this fight if he thinks there is more money to be made going that route.

Yes, and despite Canelo and his team suing DAZN because of the breach of contract, (resulting of Canelo parting ways with Oscar dela Hoya), it is better if he goes with DAZN at this point to help him promote and stream his fight against Callum Smith, after all it's all business.

Definitely, if everything goes back to normal next year, I'm seeing Canelo having 2 or even 3 fights in line for a PPV to make more money.

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November 22, 2020, 06:44:24 AM
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Canelo will definitely able to win in this match and I guess he just wants to get rid of his boredom, Lol.
Or I should say that he is just doing some warm ups for the meantime while preparing for a bigger fight in the future and not to get weaken while waiting for it.

Though Canelo has the edge in this fight he must not remain complacent for Caleb is still an undefeated boxer and one mistake from Canelo in this match could worsen his boxing image and Caleb will replace him in the limelight in an instant for Caleb have also shown good fights before that made him as an opponent for Canelo in this match.

Caleb was the first option for a Canelo return but i don't know why it was scrapped and he was replaced by Callum Smith which on my opinion more worthy of an opponent than Caleb. If we have to look at the tale of the tape, it's some sort of a David vs Goliath thing  Smiley. Smith has the height and reach advantage and they are putting Canelo as the favorite to win which i also believed he will.

The only way to make the Plant fight was by putting it on PPV which would have required more effort in marketing. There is not enough time left in the schedule and they also have to work around the Spence vs. Garcia fight. It was easier to go with the DAZN option because it is a cheaper price and they already have a subscriber base. Canelo will likely explore the PPV option again next year after this fight if he thinks there is more money to be made going that route.

Yes, and despite Canelo and his team suing DAZN because of the breach of contract, (resulting of Canelo parting ways with Oscar dela Hoya), it is better if he goes with DAZN at this point to help him promote and stream his fight against Callum Smith, after all it's all business.

Definitely, if everything goes back to normal next year, I'm seeing Canelo having 2 or even 3 fights in line for a PPV to make more money.

If it's for money then it's all business. But it's also a good decision. There certainly more people wanting to stay at home watch online than just going to buy a ticket to attend a gathering where thousands of people will come and all the air there already passed the nostrils of coronavirus-infected boxing lovers.  DAZN is the way to go.





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November 22, 2020, 10:43:45 PM
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I tried checking their records but it seem that Canelo has been listed as Saul Alvarez so I am a little curious why there is a little change in their names.
Saul Alvarez is his real name, Canelo is like a name in the boxing world, like Floyld for Money or Manny for pacman, that's their alias and it's easy to recognize since it's just a short one.

He is known to boxing fans as "Canelo" and when we saw that name, it is automatic that it refers to Saul Alvarez.

Callum Smith really has a chance to beat the Mexican in this fight because he is the bigger fighter of the two and that alone is the biggest advantage of this fight though Canelo is more technical but if the former could impose his size on Canelo, upset could happen.

Who knows, but  yes it's a good advantage for Smith as he's much bigger and he's reach is really
have a big difference.But in the other hand, if we still remember how Pacman beats Thurman who
also have a good advantage not  just in  height and reach but also at age. But then again we will
only knew it when the bell went  out and the announcer declared who wins. The fight is getting
closer it's less than a month now enough time to save some spare coins.

Let us not use pacman as a comparison, he is a legendary and on a different level, an 8th division world champion that no boxer had achieved yet, so this fight is just an ordinary fight and either boxer has a chance of winning, but of course most of us go with the popular boxer as we think it's the better fighter.
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November 25, 2020, 12:55:04 AM
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Initial odds:



And as expected, Canelo @1.17 in the beginning, it could go to @1.1 though, not worth to bet on him.

Unless there is another option for us, maybe sportsbets will have that option as the fight get near though. So let's wait, like which round will Canelo stop Smith or the odds for a UD.

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This is as close as a cherry pick fight for Canelo. Yes, Caleb is undefeated and a champion but Canelo is just about in his prime and no one from Middleweight to Light Heavyweight that can defeat a version of Canelo right now. Perhaps Andre Ward, there have been talks but I don't know if its going to push through and get Andre out of his retirement.

It's a good decision for him and his team to get out of Golden Boy's contract. He can manage himself right now as he is one of boxing's premier attraction.

A close much for Canelo and this is not like his last fight cause he is fighting someone who hasn't been lost and at the same time a major contender and a champion on their weight class. I think this fight will be good if happen at the coliseum where lots of people cheering for their favorite fighters.


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They're professional boxers so usually they know how to deal with someone who isn't their height, and has the height advantage. Its quite typical for a fighter to spar in training camp with boxers similar to the style of their opponent. Personally, I don't think there's much of an impact with height advantage as people try to make out. Of course, it has its factors but being taller than your opponent also leaves you open to certain type of attacks. Mike Tyson in his prime was one of the smaller boxers in terms of height, yet he fought on the inside, and made a massive career out of it. His ducking, weaving style is what made him so dangerous to those that were taller than him, and of course his killer uppercuts.
I have always thought of Tyson as an exception rather than the rule, it is true that he was incredible and if it was not for a series of very difficult circumstances for him it is possible his reign at the top of the boxing world would have lasted way longer, however he had all the skills to deal with his short height and even make it an advantage by getting so close to their opponent that their height became a problem, but for the rest that lack his skill and raw talent height difference can be really important especially if the taller boxer is very good at throwing his jab.



I don't think we've seen the best version of Callum either, and there's no way to tell if we'll see either fighter at their best in the up and coming fight. I would say, it'll be decided on points, and be within a point or two if I was going to make a prediction. I wouldn't advise anyone betting on this fight though, because it really could go anyway. Canelo has definitely got the experience to avoid a knockout, while Callum has definitely got experience, but he might be a little more prone to taking chances than Canelo.
While I see this fight being closer than what many imagine we also know that in the world of boxing fixing fights is a reality, to me if Callum wants to win he cannot hope to win by the judges since they are going to have a heavy bias towards Canelo and he will need to KO him.

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November 26, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
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Initial odds:



And as expected, Canelo @1.17 in the beginning, it could go to @1.1 though, not worth to bet on him.

Unless there is another option for us, maybe sportsbets will have that option as the fight get near though. So let's wait, like which round will Canelo stop Smith or the odds for a UD.

Posting the comparison from other bookies from bestodds (https://www.bestodds.ai/odds/sport-boxing/matchups/callum-smith-vs-saul-alvarez)



It can easily go to 1.1 for Canelo a week before the fight event.
But if the odds will be the inspiration of Callum to train harder, we may see a toe-to-toe fight here.
And Canelo will have hard time inside the ring. Let's see.
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