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December 17, 2020, 12:44:30 AM
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And it is going to be a battle of body shots as well, both of them have different methods of throwing, but the effect is still the same. Canelo has been hit by GGG who himself is a body snatcher, but wasn't affected. I'm not sure about Callum though, how he will react if Canelo hits him in the vulnerable spot on his body.

Only few has survived Canelo in his last 10 fights, it's either win by KO or UD. So good odds as posted by @bisdak40, you just have to choose one though, to maximise our profits.
Callum Smith is super tall, he need to use his advantage by boxing out Canelo, if he can consistently do that, then maybe he wins.

There's so much bet on Canelo to win here, how about I'll go the other way and hope that it will be an upset. lol
IIRC, never seen Canelo fought this tall, so he might struggle here, correct me here if I'm wrong.

I think Canelo has gained a lot of experienced fighting tall fighters like Kovalev 1.83 meters or Rocky Fielding at 1.86. He has a good ring IQ and can probably adjust as the fight progresses. So this is still in Canelo's territory and it he caught Smith with a perfect time shot, Smith might play defensive all the way.

So I'm seeing that either Canelo will knock him out, or won by a lopsided decision in the judges scorecard. But in any case, you bet on the underdog, still good though, maybe Canelo is rusty.

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December 17, 2020, 03:57:05 AM
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If you are rooting for Canelo Alvarez to win this fight then below odds is not that bad. Callum Smith is massive so i think knock-out victory by Canelo is slim so i'm going for Canelo via Decision. But putting some amount for Smith as a safety net if upset happens is not bad at all but i'm not going to apply this kind of strategy as i don't believe that Smith could pull an upset.



I disagree with most of the other posters, as I believe that there is a greater chance of Alvarez winning this match by a KO, rather than by UD. So these odds look fair for me. Right now I am not considering the possibility of a win by Callum Smith, as the probability of any such scenario is statistically zero. When was the last time we got a major upset in boxing?

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December 17, 2020, 07:16:04 AM
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If you are rooting for Canelo Alvarez to win this fight then below odds is not that bad. Callum Smith is massive so i think knock-out victory by Canelo is slim so i'm going for Canelo via Decision. But putting some amount for Smith as a safety net if upset happens is not bad at all but i'm not going to apply this kind of strategy as i don't believe that Smith could pull an upset.



I disagree with most of the other posters, as I believe that there is a greater chance of Alvarez winning this match by a KO, rather than by UD. So these odds look fair for me. Right now I am not considering the possibility of a win by Callum Smith, as the probability of any such scenario is statistically zero. When was the last time we got a major upset in boxing?

I 2nd, because we are talking of chances, we can look at the odds and as you can see, the odds is lower for Canelo to win by KO, meaning higher chance.

The scenario I see here is that, if Canelo will win, it should be by KO and if Callum Smith will win, it will be on decision because he can use his length to outbox Canelo Alvarez, but there's a lower chance only that we will see that since Canelo is the favorites here.

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December 17, 2020, 07:30:18 AM
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If you are rooting for Canelo Alvarez to win this fight then below odds is not that bad. Callum Smith is massive so i think knock-out victory by Canelo is slim so i'm going for Canelo via Decision. But putting some amount for Smith as a safety net if upset happens is not bad at all but i'm not going to apply this kind of strategy as i don't believe that Smith could pull an upset.



I disagree with most of the other posters, as I believe that there is a greater chance of Alvarez winning this match by a KO, rather than by UD. So these odds look fair for me. Right now I am not considering the possibility of a win by Callum Smith, as the probability of any such scenario is statistically zero. When was the last time we got a major upset in boxing?

I 2nd, because we are talking of chances, we can look at the odds and as you can see, the odds is lower for Canelo to win by KO, meaning higher chance.

The scenario I see here is that, if Canelo will win, it should be by KO and if Callum Smith will win, it will be on decision because he can use his length to outbox Canelo Alvarez, but there's a lower chance only that we will see that since Canelo is the favorites here.

Callum Smith has 27 wins and 19 of that are coming from KOs, he is also a monster though he is an underdog here, also he is an undefeated so he has the confident as a fighter, probably this is the biggest fight of his career so it's either he is nervous here or excited to fight Canelo.

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December 17, 2020, 10:35:36 AM
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If you are rooting for Canelo Alvarez to win this fight then below odds is not that bad. Callum Smith is massive so i think knock-out victory by Canelo is slim so i'm going for Canelo via Decision. But putting some amount for Smith as a safety net if upset happens is not bad at all but i'm not going to apply this kind of strategy as i don't believe that Smith could pull an upset.



I disagree with most of the other posters, as I believe that there is a greater chance of Alvarez winning this match by a KO, rather than by UD. So these odds look fair for me. Right now I am not considering the possibility of a win by Callum Smith, as the probability of any such scenario is statistically zero.

Ohh, this is too much and i disagree with you here. Even if Canelo is the heavy favorite against Smith but the chance of him winning is not zero. In boxing there is always that lucky punch that could turned the fight around and we have seen too many of them in our lifetime. Andy Ruiz vs Joshua, Whyte vs Povetkin, to name a few.

1.85 Canelo via KO is attractive but i will still go for Canelo via Decision.

When was the last time we got a major upset in boxing?

Have you seen the fight between Lomachenco vs Teofimo Lopez?

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December 17, 2020, 11:29:09 AM
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I just read this article

Callum Smith: Canelo Alvarez is 'a better 160 fighter than he is at 168' It looks like we have a making of a very great fight between these two highly talented champion and Callum is very much prepared for the greatest fight of his career and he mentioned

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He can box on the back foot, he's got good head movement, he's got good lateral movement, he's smart, he's strong and I will be prepared for the hardest fight of my career, but I believe I've got the beating of him," said Smith. "If I deliver the best of my ability, I beat him."

So we have a great fight coming and we don't want to miss this one.

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December 17, 2020, 12:52:16 PM
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And it is going to be a battle of body shots as well, both of them have different methods of throwing, but the effect is still the same. Canelo has been hit by GGG who himself is a body snatcher, but wasn't affected. I'm not sure about Callum though, how he will react if Canelo hits him in the vulnerable spot on his body.

Only few has survived Canelo in his last 10 fights, it's either win by KO or UD. So good odds as posted by @bisdak40, you just have to choose one though, to maximise our profits.
Callum Smith is super tall, he need to use his advantage by boxing out Canelo, if he can consistently do that, then maybe he wins.

There's so much bet on Canelo to win here, how about I'll go the other way and hope that it will be an upset. lol
IIRC, never seen Canelo fought this tall, so he might struggle here, correct me here if I'm wrong.

I think Canelo has gained a lot of experienced fighting tall fighters like Kovalev 1.83 meters or Rocky Fielding at 1.86. He has a good ring IQ and can probably adjust as the fight progresses. So this is still in Canelo's territory and it he caught Smith with a perfect time shot, Smith might play defensive all the way.

So I'm seeing that either Canelo will knock him out, or won by a lopsided decision in the judges scorecard. But in any case, you bet on the underdog, still good though, maybe Canelo is rusty.


Thanks for that information,  I didn't know that. I was looking at the record of these two fighters, both of them are not undefeated anymore.
Rocky Fielding had 2 loses, one coming from Canelo while one came from Callum Smith, I guess this makes the fight interesting.

So Callum Smith is still the tallest fighter Canelo would fight, Rocky Fielding is 6'1" while Callum Smith is 6'3".

BTW, I'm going to watch the highlight of Rocky Fielding vs Callum Smith, I want to know how Rocky Fielding got defeated.

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December 17, 2020, 01:27:28 PM
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I just read this article

Callum Smith: Canelo Alvarez is 'a better 160 fighter than he is at 168' It looks like we have a making of a very great fight between these two highly talented champion and Callum is very much prepared for the greatest fight of his career and he mentioned

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He can box on the back foot, he's got good head movement, he's got good lateral movement, he's smart, he's strong and I will be prepared for the hardest fight of my career, but I believe I've got the beating of him," said Smith. "If I deliver the best of my ability, I beat him."

So we have a great fight coming and we don't want to miss this one.
I agree with Callum here, Alvarez is really a better 160 and I would say that weight class is where he belong. But he has clean it up and no more big opportunity that's why he went to 168 lbs where there is a lot of money. He even went as high as LHW fighting Kovalev. I'm sure Callum is preparing for this fight because this is his biggest so far.
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December 17, 2020, 03:44:16 PM
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I agree with Callum here, Alvarez is really a better 160 and I would say that weight class is where he belong. But he has clean it up and no more big opportunity that's why he went to 168 lbs where there is a lot of money. He even went as high as LHW fighting Kovalev. I'm sure Callum is preparing for this fight because this is his biggest so far.

It's not really the weight, on the time of the fight some boxers after the weigh-in quickly added some weights before the start of the fight and they go on their natural weight when they are in a fight if Alvarez reach 168 in the weigh-in and he is at it's best on the night of the fight he can always deliver, Alvarez have everything it's not the weight but his punching power.

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And it is going to be a battle of body shots as well, both of them have different methods of throwing, but the effect is still the same. Canelo has been hit by GGG who himself is a body snatcher, but wasn't affected. I'm not sure about Callum though, how he will react if Canelo hits him in the vulnerable spot on his body.

Only few has survived Canelo in his last 10 fights, it's either win by KO or UD. So good odds as posted by @bisdak40, you just have to choose one though, to maximise our profits.
Callum Smith is super tall, he need to use his advantage by boxing out Canelo, if he can consistently do that, then maybe he wins.

There's so much bet on Canelo to win here, how about I'll go the other way and hope that it will be an upset. lol
IIRC, never seen Canelo fought this tall, so he might struggle here, correct me here if I'm wrong.

I think Canelo has gained a lot of experienced fighting tall fighters like Kovalev 1.83 meters or Rocky Fielding at 1.86. He has a good ring IQ and can probably adjust as the fight progresses. So this is still in Canelo's territory and it he caught Smith with a perfect time shot, Smith might play defensive all the way.

So I'm seeing that either Canelo will knock him out, or won by a lopsided decision in the judges scorecard. But in any case, you bet on the underdog, still good though, maybe Canelo is rusty.


Canelo could be rusty in the first few rounds, after all he is a slow starter, but once he heated up and find his range and rhythm against the taller Callum, it will just be a matter of time before we see the old Canelo with good jabs and timing and body shots.

So he could struggle a bit in the beginning, what I like about Smith though is that he is good utilising his advantage, his height and his reach, and this will be a big challenge for Canelo again in the start.

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December 17, 2020, 08:59:57 PM
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Canelo could be rusty in the first few rounds, after all he is a slow starter, but once he heated up and find his range and rhythm against the taller Callum, it will just be a matter of time before we see the old Canelo with good jabs and timing and body shots.

So he could struggle a bit in the beginning, what I like about Smith though is that he is good utilising his advantage, his height and his reach, and this will be a big challenge for Canelo again in the start.
Observing out of his fight then he had really this kind of behavior on where he might really be looked on disadvantage on early or start up rounds where he do need up some warm up first
before making some move or throw out some punches.This is indeed the old Canelo that we do know.

Smith shouldnt really be underestimated on any angle yet he had really that advantage when it comes to reach but with some good timing with body shots then that can really be handled out easily.

Moving in weight division? I dont see much for this to be a problem.

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December 17, 2020, 09:31:43 PM
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An exaggerated illustration on Callum Smith's height advantage over Canelo  Grin. For sure Team Canelo would advise their guy to go in-fighting and not let Smith use his reach advantage. 

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Have not pull the trigger yet and have some doubts on whether Smith could withstand Canelo's body shot for 12 rounds or not. I might go for  KO win for Canelo.

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December 17, 2020, 10:07:35 PM
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Smith shouldnt really be underestimated on any angle yet he had really that advantage when it comes to reach but with some good timing with body shots then that can really be handled out easily.

Moving in weight division? I dont see much for this to be a problem.

To a great fighter like Alvarez you cannot put him at a disadvantage just check out his fight against Khan, Amir Khan has a superior when they fought but all he needed was one punch to knock him out, Smith has the height advantage but he needs to be strong to keep Alvarez at bay who will go inside and do bodywork on him.

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December 17, 2020, 11:36:18 PM
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An exaggerated illustration on Callum Smith's height advantage over Canelo  Grin. For sure Team Canelo would advise their guy to go in-fighting and not let Smith use his reach advantage. 

@Baofeng, titiklop ba to?

Have not pull the trigger yet and have some doubts on whether Smith could withstand Canelo's body shot for 12 rounds or not. I might go for  KO win for Canelo.
Its exaggerated but reach wont really be much effective if Canelo would really switch to in fighting.Those long arms wont be effective in close gap fights.

How long will Smith will hold when it comes to getting some heavy bodyshot or blows? I wont really be seeing this would last even 6-7 rounds.
This would be indeed a KO win for Canelo.

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December 17, 2020, 11:52:59 PM
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An exaggerated illustration on Callum Smith's height advantage over Canelo  Grin. For sure Team Canelo would advise their guy to go in-fighting and not let Smith use his reach advantage. 

@Baofeng, titiklop ba to?

Have not pull the trigger yet and have some doubts on whether Smith could withstand Canelo's body shot for 12 rounds or not. I might go for  KO win for Canelo.
Its exaggerated but reach wont really be much effective if Canelo would really switch to in fighting.Those long arms wont be effective in close gap fights.

How long will Smith will hold when it comes to getting some heavy bodyshot or blows? I wont really be seeing this would last even 6-7 rounds.
This would be indeed a KO win for Canelo.

It's too early to tell, majority here predict Canelo would win by KO but let's see how this fight goes.

I understand that we will side on whoever is the favorite or the popular, but Callum Smith is a real deal also, he hasn't taste a lose in his career yet so this could be a different scenario than our expectation, well, I'd love to be wrong as I don't want to see Canelo destroy his good record in this fight, but whatever comes I'll be happy to see and accept.

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December 18, 2020, 12:44:59 AM
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And it is going to be a battle of body shots as well, both of them have different methods of throwing, but the effect is still the same. Canelo has been hit by GGG who himself is a body snatcher, but wasn't affected. I'm not sure about Callum though, how he will react if Canelo hits him in the vulnerable spot on his body.

Only few has survived Canelo in his last 10 fights, it's either win by KO or UD. So good odds as posted by @bisdak40, you just have to choose one though, to maximise our profits.
Callum Smith is super tall, he need to use his advantage by boxing out Canelo, if he can consistently do that, then maybe he wins.

There's so much bet on Canelo to win here, how about I'll go the other way and hope that it will be an upset. lol
IIRC, never seen Canelo fought this tall, so he might struggle here, correct me here if I'm wrong.

I think Canelo has gained a lot of experienced fighting tall fighters like Kovalev 1.83 meters or Rocky Fielding at 1.86. He has a good ring IQ and can probably adjust as the fight progresses. So this is still in Canelo's territory and it he caught Smith with a perfect time shot, Smith might play defensive all the way.

So I'm seeing that either Canelo will knock him out, or won by a lopsided decision in the judges scorecard. But in any case, you bet on the underdog, still good though, maybe Canelo is rusty.


Thanks for that information,  I didn't know that. I was looking at the record of these two fighters, both of them are not undefeated anymore.
Rocky Fielding had 2 loses, one coming from Canelo while one came from Callum Smith, I guess this makes the fight interesting.

So Callum Smith is still the tallest fighter Canelo would fight, Rocky Fielding is 6'1" while Callum Smith is 6'3".

BTW, I'm going to watch the highlight of Rocky Fielding vs Callum Smith, I want to know how Rocky Fielding got defeated.

Yeah, the Fielding vs Smith might be a good gauge to see how Smith might fight Canelo as far as strategy goes, spoiler alert though, look for Callum body shot, for me it really contributed to that win against Fielding.

And yes, just imagine a 6-3 fighter, almost a heavyweight type of hype, fighting a well build all around fighter in Canelo, it will be very interesting as what the plan of Canelo is. I think Canelo will respect Callum and try to figure him out in rounds 1-3.

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December 18, 2020, 10:17:36 AM
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Yeah, the Fielding vs Smith might be a good gauge to see how Smith might fight Canelo as far as strategy goes, spoiler alert though, look for Callum body shot, for me it really contributed to that win against Fielding.
Body shots is the only chance of Canelo here because he is not that quick, he is smarter and stronger I believe so let's see how this goes.
Canelo winning is what everyone is thinking, just like the Loma fight, he was so hype that we didn't believe his opponent has a chance but things were different in the actual fight.

And yes, just imagine a 6-3 fighter, almost a heavyweight type of hype, fighting a well build all around fighter in Canelo, it will be very interesting as what the plan of Canelo is. I think Canelo will respect Callum and try to figure him out in rounds 1-3.
Smith could be a heavyweight with his height but he need to succeed at what division he is fighting now, and that means he has to beat the man in front of him which is a good fighter.

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Smith could be a heavyweight with his height but he need to succeed at what division he is fighting now, and that means he has to beat the man in front of him which is a good fighter.

There's a lot of motivation for Callum, he will try to avenge his brother's loss to Canelo and he will prove to everybody here that his time has come, this is a very tall order for Callum, and also for Canelo because he is now a free agent and he must establish himself before he can get more big payday.
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December 18, 2020, 05:52:43 PM
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An exaggerated illustration on Callum Smith's height advantage over Canelo  Grin. For sure Team Canelo would advise their guy to go in-fighting and not let Smith use his reach advantage.  

@Baofeng, titiklop ba to?

Have not pull the trigger yet and have some doubts on whether Smith could withstand Canelo's body shot for 12 rounds or not. I might go for  KO win for Canelo.
Its exaggerated but reach wont really be much effective if Canelo would really switch to in fighting.Those long arms wont be effective in close gap fights.

How long will Smith will hold when it comes to getting some heavy bodyshot or blows? I wont really be seeing this would last even 6-7 rounds.
This would be indeed a KO win for Canelo.

It's too early to tell, majority here predict Canelo would win by KO but let's see how this fight goes.

I understand that we will side on whoever is the favorite or the popular, but Callum Smith is a real deal also, he hasn't taste a lose in his career yet so this could be a different scenario than our expectation, well, I'd love to be wrong as I don't want to see Canelo destroy his good record in this fight, but whatever comes I'll be happy to see and accept.
Well, you are right because anything could really happen because we had seen lots of instances where favorites had flopped down by underdogs  Cheesy.

We couldn't really tell on what would be the outcome but it is somewhat obvious basing off with past experience and fights then its hard to ignore to presume on whose
clear the winner.

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Smith could be a heavyweight with his height but he need to succeed at what division he is fighting now, and that means he has to beat the man in front of him which is a good fighter.

There's a lot of motivation for Callum, he will try to avenge his brother's loss to Canelo and he will prove to everybody here that his time has come, this is a very tall order for Callum, and also for Canelo because he is now a free agent and he must establish himself before he can get more big payday.

Every fighter have that motivation not unless they are just fighting for the money, but if they are aiming to hit more and to be a well known inside this industry, winning always is a muct to everyone.

Callum need this one if he wanted to go out and start making a big noise for his name, Avarez was an established name and if he able to beat him up then for sure more offers will flow for him.

In the side, Alvarez if he wanted to bring more paycheck then this fight is one big reference to anyone who would like to work with him.

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